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Dead... And Not So Dead => Near-death experiences => Topic started by: HimalyanBear on March 24, 2010, 09:40:07 pm

Title: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: HimalyanBear on March 24, 2010, 09:40:07 pm
Since we astral project everyday when we are asleep, astral projection must be a very safe and natural activity. However, I have read a few articles on the subject that speak about the dangers of astral projection, such as the possibility of encountering negative entities or having your Silver Cord severed. Do you feel that astral projection is dangerous? Or do you think it is safe and one need not worry about one's safety?
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: Strife on March 25, 2010, 06:30:21 am
lol i dont honestly think its worth worrieing about cause if what u say is true about us always astral projecting when sleeping then we are always at a risk for running into "negative energy"  or having our silver chord split off...so in otherwords everytime we sleep it would be risky or dangerous.

I do think Astral Projection can be kinda dangerous for if u leave the body then u have to find a way back to it and if u dont then ur body is pretty much dead or so most people say.
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: KubeSix on March 26, 2010, 01:46:55 am
Negative entities... Cord severed... Wah, I've been reading too much manga again...

Ahem. I really don't think it's that dangerous. From what I've been told, the astral body or whatever you wanna call it is often pulled back to the body rather than you having to find your way back. Sometimes it takes minutes, sometimes seconds, but the way I see it, the mind always returns to its more comfortable state, inside the physical body.
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: Amaya on March 26, 2010, 07:26:34 am
I agree with KubeSix. I don't see it as dangerous for the same reasons stated and that I usually get a feeling when I'm in danger that I've never got with astral projection.
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: Carson Dane on March 28, 2010, 09:00:06 pm
I'm fully conscious during out-of-body experiences, while Astral Projections happen like dreams.  My first out of body experience was scary, but my most recent one - a dark retreat - was easy and calm.   APs are much more frequent for me than OOBEs.  In unpleasant or difficult places or situations, I relax and act like I belong there.  When threatened during APs, I've learned its always better to stand and fight.  I think the cord has to do with consciousness, and so, cannot be cut.  Instead, perhaps, it is mind which one must hold onto during such experiences.
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: KubeSix on March 29, 2010, 12:48:06 am
The cord can be cut... Nothing "cannot" be done. Like someone I know from another forum said earlier this week, nothing is absolute. Someone with the appropriate abilities could very well cut the cord, especially if it represents consciousness. 'Cause y'know, you're not conscious 100% of the time. And even if it's not consciousness, once again, absolutes don't exist. When they say perfection isn't of this world, it applies to the rules that bind it also. (And that itself makes perfection possible, when you think about it.) But I've strayed from the topic...

The cord can be cut, the body can be taken over, etc. But really, think about the possible reasons someone or something would want your body or why they'd want to separate your from it. Now think about how, even if possible, doing those things would probably be virtually impossible. and then you have numbers. Out of those who can leave their bodies, not many even claim to have ever been subject to danger while out of body.
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: Carson Dane on March 29, 2010, 09:24:42 pm
The universe  exists "absolutely" and cannot "not exist".  Perhaps the notion that a "cord" exists is not absolute.  Relax, just sharing some experiences and ideas here...
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: KubeSix on March 30, 2010, 12:08:03 pm
The universe  exists "absolutely" and cannot "not exist".  Perhaps the notion that a "cord" exists is not absolute.  Relax, just sharing some experiences and ideas here...

Relax...? When did I get angry? Or excited? Seems like you should take your own advice... Oh well...

Who's to say the universe absolutely exists? Nobody, as we have no outside source to refer to. As far as you, me or anyone else is concerned, this place might not even be real. I wonder why you say it cannot not exist. Why not? You're just presuming things without considering the possibilities.

P.S. And you can't say things absolutely exist and such based on your personal experience, by the way; you have no other perspective than the one inside this universe. Also, the universe isn't a fixed thing, it's malleable, always changing and with a simple thought, someone can alter it completely. I'll explain further if you want, but this thread isn't the place, this isn't a discussion about reality.
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: LeXtruX on March 30, 2010, 01:01:16 pm
unlike others I won't be giving an answer to this... but it is something to think about... we deem our own house to be a safe haven too but it's full of dangers, so it might be dangerous too.
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: Lupus on March 30, 2010, 01:10:53 pm
unlike others I won't be giving an answer to this... but it is something to think about... we deem our own house to be a safe haven too but it's full of dangers, so it might be dangerous too.

Yeh , i agree with LeXtruX on this one.

Life is full of danger anyway.
Allow me to speculate , but when some has a nightmare , they usually wake up very quickly - reacting to a precieved threat perhaps. That leads me on to thinking that if you come across danger when you astral project when asleep , (therefore dreaming?) You react to the danger by beating a hasty retreat and waking up?
Perhaps ive just spewed a bunch of crap  :banplea:
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: KubeSix on March 30, 2010, 08:15:31 pm
unlike others I won't be giving an answer to this... but it is something to think about... we deem our own house to be a safe haven too but it's full of dangers, so it might be dangerous too.

Yeh , i agree with LeXtruX on this one.

Life is full of danger anyway.
Allow me to speculate , but when some has a nightmare , they usually wake up very quickly - reacting to a precieved threat perhaps. That leads me on to thinking that if you come across danger when you astral project when asleep , (therefore dreaming?) You react to the danger by beating a hasty retreat and waking up?
Perhaps ive just spewed a bunch of crap  :banplea:

Actually, that sounds a lot like the descriptions I heard...
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: Lupus on March 31, 2010, 04:09:13 am
lol. truth be told i dont know alot about this subject , and i was only assuming
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: KubeSix on March 31, 2010, 02:18:45 pm
Well here's the thing. (Source is a seminar (or series of seminars???) that were archived on a trusted site)

Like I said in an earlier post, the mind reverts back to its most comfortable state when losing focus or in danger, right? Well according to those people from the seminars, that's exactly what happens during an OBE. It even happens in a lot of cases simply when the person doing the OBE sees their body from a 3rd person point of view for the first couple of times. They get scared or lose focus, so what happens is what they describe as being "pulled back" to their bodies. Whenever something dangerous or stressful, scary or otherwise negative occurs or is about to occur, the "astral body", whatever it's supposed to be called, is "pulled back" again.

It often even happens, again, according to them, seemingly at random for most people and as the person does it more and more, the time between exiting the body and being pulled back becomes longer and longer and eventually, control is gained over that state.

All from that source, of course; like I said before, the closest thing to an OBE that I've had is getting my arms out.

So a wild guess or not, you were probably right :P
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: Lupus on March 31, 2010, 03:41:21 pm
intresting stuff. annoying thing is there are so many doggy sites on this sort of thing , i tend to not bother reading them.
For the record , i think things through and use logic - sort of a educated guess lol
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: KubeSix on March 31, 2010, 06:30:28 pm
Educated then... haha :P

Yeah, most websites on this shouldn't be trusted, but this one, among the reputable sites, is known as one of the first archives on psi in general and it's usually seen as a trustworthy source. I should've given the URL: http://www.psipog.net (http://www.psipog.net)

It has how-to's for those who don't know where to start (although guides aren't really always a good thing, I guess it does help some people) and they used to give seminars, etc. It's a dead community now, the members who are still active in psionics have all left to other communities, some even made their own.

The guy who made the site, Sean (was Peebrain at the time), for example, made a blog/forum called A Little Weird. Unfortunately, he shut down registration not too long ago, since he stopped taking care of the site. The forum's still online, but only members can access it. Some people have been trying to make him allow registrations even if he doesn't manage it, but I dunno if he even checks the forums anymore himself... It's too bad, 'cause there are some really experienced people in there. (Sorry for the plug, it was meant to serve as an example... Please, mods, don't kill me, I'll behave T_T)

I'm careful when searching; there are more BS sites than good ones these days...
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: LeXtruX on April 01, 2010, 03:20:22 am
Tbh, we can't even be sure if things that are being said here are reliable...
but a lot of speculation goes on around here, so we get lots of impressions on the subjects here
Title: Re: Dangers of Astral Projection (Out-Of-Body-Experiences, OOBE)
Post by: Nephetys on January 20, 2013, 08:06:45 am
I'm a little (little?) late to share a thought about this since I just came upon this site but, I believe astral projection can be dangerous. I don't know about your experiences and I always read good thing about it, which praises it saying that it's a beautiful experience. From my experiences, I think even if sometimes it is enjoyable, there is always a chance of meeting other entities which our physical eyes can't see. I really don't want to call them 'supernatural' since I believe what happens happens within the nature so they are just as natural as we are.

I don't know if these entities can really hurt you physically, and since when you're on an astral plane and you get scared, your physical body pulls your astral body back immediately; I don't think they can really hurt your astral body or your silver cord. What they can do is, follow you back to your physical body.