[TheTerror]

Who's OP? And The bilbe has been proven wrong tons of times. Like Ama said. But the fact remains that 2012 will be a historical moment either way. if the mayans are correct and a new order starts....then wow....if the sumarians are right and there is a big war that proves many wrong and shows many right...with a great leader coming from the past to regain his strenght in the eyes of the universe...theres that(thats my fav. for a reason....and I didnt believe it at first but then as the time grew closer to the war they were talking about,whihc was said to be more than on earth, I slowly realized that....it might happen and it gave me hope) then there is the possibility that the mayans are wrong......thats would also make history.

Terror, OP means "original poster". As in, the person who made this thread.

[TheTerror]

ok thanx Kreepy.

[7VII7]

I think the whole 2012 thing is because the mayans lacked the grasp of infinity, as you look back thousands of mathematical and scientific concepts we take for granted now days did not exist ages before. . .

[rave phillaphia]

I believe the mayan thing is that they knew better... they knew they were not going to last that long as a civilization!!! lol but anyways I believe that people will destroy themselves because of what they do to the earth. We will eventually destroy our ecosystem because of our belief that we can rule over everything without conseqences. oh well humans will doom themselves. Did I mention I gave up on religion. I like the native american beliefs though of looking at the past. They believe that this is the fourth world and the last after this there is nothing left. They believe that we should respect the environment and protect it for the future. its a lot nicer and makes everyone a lot happier.

[Muerte]

  y2k wasnt stupid because our computers would have failed you se because computers say year as a 2 digit number example being 1995 the computer would read it as 95 so when it turned 2000 it would turn 00 and crash nukes are controlled by computers meaning every nuke would be launched eventually the government realized it and had it taken care of

  I've no need to muddy these waters anymore than necessary, but it behooves me to point out that our nations nuclear missles are not soly controlled by computer.  The last step to launch is two keys which must be turned in tandom, even if the computers wanted to launch, it is still a man which holds that power.  I can tell you this because it is part of my job.

  Also the Antichrist has no care for humanity, but will pretend to inorder to gain power, and I highly doubt the return of christ would be advertised so blatently.  Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Jesus simply going to appear prior to the final battle, I have not yet learned of him having to be reborn and going through life again.

[Omnipotent]

All i have to say is Yay Let the powers be unleashed. For me it might actually be a challenge, I've been looking forward to 2012 since i was born.

[Angelus]

The second coming of Jesus is said to be like "a flash of lightning" . It is thought he will appear and not announce himself in anyway to anyone, will not preach, perform miracles or "take ministry". He will tell the people of the devils ministry, He will not come to us as the "son of God" but as the "son of Man" he is then gone.
When revelations roles around Jesus (in the form of a slaughtered lamb) is in heaven breaking the seven seals to the scroll.
The first four seals realease the four horsemen, the fifth seal brings the souls of the Martyrs who are eager to start gods judgement. They are told to wait until more martyrs have died and each given a white robe.
With the sixth seal comes an earthquake, the sky becomes black, the people of earth will become afraid of Gods wrath. Four angels will stand at the four corners of the Earth, and hold back the winds, while another angel commands them to wait until 144,000 descendants of Jacob have a seal put on their foreheads. A large crowd is then seen before God  wearing white robes and holding palm branches. They begin to worship him.
When the seventh seal is opened, heaven will be silent for half an hour. God will issue seven angels with trumpets, then another angel carrying a golden censer will comes to God. After offering prayers to God, the angel fills the censer with fire from the altar, then hurls it at the earth, resulting in earthquakes, thunder and lightning.
Jesus is not mentioned again until the final battle.
It is said he will lead the army of heaven into battle from the heavens where he will engage the devil in combat and destroy him and he will rule for 1000 years with the Saints who will be reserected after there deaths in combat.

[Muerte]

  Yep, thought it was more along those lines.

[KillFast]

The second coming of Jesus is said to be like "a flash of lightning" . It is thought he will appear and not announce himself in anyway to anyone, will not preach, perform miracles or "take ministry". He will tell the people of the devils ministry, He will not come to us as the "son of God" but as the "son of Man" he is then gone.
When revelations roles around Jesus (in the form of a slaughtered lamb) is in heaven breaking the seven seals to the scroll.
The first four seals realease the four horsemen, the fifth seal brings the souls of the Martyrs who are eager to start gods judgement. They are told to wait until more martyrs have died and each given a white robe.
With the sixth seal comes an earthquake, the sky becomes black, the people of earth will become afraid of Gods wrath. Four angels will stand at the four corners of the Earth, and hold back the winds, while another angel commands them to wait until 144,000 descendants of Jacob have a seal put on their foreheads. A large crowd is then seen before God  wearing white robes and holding palm branches. They begin to worship him.
When the seventh seal is opened, heaven will be silent for half an hour. God will issue seven angels with trumpets, then another angel carrying a golden censer will comes to God. After offering prayers to God, the angel fills the censer with fire from the altar, then hurls it at the earth, resulting in earthquakes, thunder and lightning.
Jesus is not mentioned again until the final battle.
It is said he will lead the army of heaven into battle from the heavens where he will engage the devil in combat and destroy him and he will rule for 1000 years with the Saints who will be reserected after there deaths in combat.

please realize that these words are eluding if you are a fundamentalist
it is the unfortunate truth that the meanins of each word tends not to be what it appears to be
I know the truth of these things because i hear the voice of god
not the god man has created, the one that rules dominion of our world
but the true god who holds dominion of all existence in the universe

[KillFast]

while another angel commands them to wait until 144,000 descendants of Jacob have a seal put on their foreheads.

let this be made clear however that you have misinterpreted the text for it is 144000 to be saved
and the ones who bear the mark are damned for the mark is that of the beast which has arisen

[Moloch]

I know the truth of these things because i hear the voice of god

And now the insanity shows itself for what it is. Killfast, this is one of the classic signs of delusional schizophrenia. I suggest that you be screened - soon.

let this be made clear however that you have misinterpreted the text for it is 144000 to be saved

Now this sounds like something a Jehovah's Witness would say. You wouldn't happen to subscribe to that belief system would you?

[Muerte]

  Him and his circle perchance?  And as for hearing voices, well.......

[Angelus]

Jesus Christ kid. I thought you were gettin a bit weird in the book of raziel conversation but this is rediculous. I could have bought you had visions or something but now you not only know Jesus but hear God. And sorry, not our petty christian God but your so much cooler universal god. If the christian God doesnt exist then nor does Jesus. He must be some kinda cool uber universal Jesus. Not the petty Christian one. So let me get this straight. According to both topics you have started you and your "circle" are hunting for a mythical book (which has no actual use to anyone, it is only a journal of events and a few spells that no one knows what for cause its been lost since f*ck knows when) to save the world, your friend is non Christian Jesus and you talk to UberGod. F*ck me backwards with a lawnmower. I felt like a bit of a self important c*nt when I discovered my vampirism but you rip the p*ss. Im done with this. You need to seek help, stop playin DnD or whatever fantasy role play you kids are playin these days, grow up and sit in a nice quiet room and repeat to yourself "He isn't Jesus and I don't talk to UberGod, He isn't Jesus and I don't talk to UberGod" until you believe it.

Forgive me Moloch and Muerte. I know its you guys that put this kinda stuff where it belongs but I just couldn't take it anymore.

Also if you talk to God, sorry, heres me saying my petty christian God again, I mean your UberGod couldnt tell you if your mate was the messiah or just a very naughty boy.

[Moloch]

Jesus Christ kid. I thought you were gettin a bit weird in the book of raziel conversation but this is rediculous. I could have bought you had visions or something but now you not only know Jesus but hear God. And sorry, not our petty christian God but your so much cooler universal god. If the christian God doesnt exist then nor does Jesus. He must be some kinda cool uber universal Jesus. Not the petty Christian one. So let me get this straight. According to both topics you have started you and your "circle" are hunting for a mythical book (which has no actual use to anyone, it is only a journal of events and a few spells that no one knows what for cause its been lost since f*ck knows when) to save the world, your friend is non Christian Jesus and you talk to UberGod. F*ck me backwards with a lawnmower. I felt like a bit of a self important c*nt when I discovered my vampirism but you rip the p*ss. Im done with this. You need to seek help, stop playin DnD or whatever fantasy role play you kids are playin these days, grow up and sit in a nice quiet room and repeat to yourself "He isn't Jesus and I don't talk to UberGod, He isn't Jesus and I don't talk to UberGod" until you believe it.

Forgive me Moloch and Muerte. I know its you guys that put this kinda stuff where it belongs but I just couldn't take it anymore.

Also if you talk to God, sorry, heres me saying my petty christian God again, I mean your UberGod couldnt tell you if your mate was the messiah or just a very naughty boy.

Angelus, this whole post is hilarious, but the part I emboldened made me nearly fall out of my chair! Bravo, sir, bravo!

As for Muerte and I taking out the trash, heh, we're not greedy; anyone with an IQ above one-hundred-fifty and some sense of elocution can help. Though, as I was reminded earlier today, don't go trying to act in an official manner unless you're a staff member.