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My Brother is Possessed By a Demon
« on: June 11, 2010, 01:00:45 pm »
My brother isn't crazy, or at least, i don't think so. but he's definitely got a problem. . . I need to know how to help him.

My brother, (for story telling purposes, I'm going to call him Fred, (not his real name)) Fred, is a kid. like 20. he's living on his own, having fun, all that great stuff. he's also a sinner, doing everything your health teacher tells you not to do, + lying, stealing, cheating, conning, all that good stuff. I don't approve, but what'cha'gonna'do? He also draws and writes in sharpie marker all over his walls (not that that's a sin, but it's crucial to the story)

It started about a month ago, Fred was on 4chan goofing around; he found some designs and pictures that some guy drew up and said that they were demon calling symbols. Fred drew them on his walls because he thought they were cute. A few days later, he's in his room, and he decides to make himself a Oija board. He's playing with the board, and the pointer starts moving. He's not moving it, he's sitting there thinking 'no way, no way, no way'. . . i believe he was sober at the time. so he asks, "who's there?" and it moves some more Y-o-u-k-i. and so he talks to Youki for a while, then he asks her if she's the only spirit in the room. she tells him no. 'how many' and she tells him 2. so he asks, "who else is in here?" and he gets the reply A-p-h-e-i-l. and so he talks to Apheil for a while. Apheil tells him that Youki is missing 2 l's, and her real name is You Kill, and then Apheil tells Fred that Youki is really all the bad things that Fred is. Fred doesn't like this so he asks Apheil for help, and Apheil gives him help.

Apheil taught him all these wonderful things, made him give up his vices, learn to be honest and good. he wouldn't let Fred take things out of his room mates fridge, or use the money our mother lent him for anything but what he said he'd use it for. Apheil had Fred reading the bible and all sorts of stuff to teach him goodness. and Apheil told Fred that Apheil was God, and that's why he was sticking with Fred for so long. and that Fred was Jesus, and he was going to get incarcerated like Jesus, and that's why Apheil was there, to prepare him. Apheil told Fred that he was a prophet, and he gave him proof. he told Fred one night, 'eat outside, eat outside' (via Oija Board) and Fred took it to mean a steak out. he asked "how long" Apheil told him "all night." "for who?" Fred asked. "2 men, 2 men," so Fred and his friend waited in Fred's car all night. Fred asked apheil to tell him when, and was told "now" right before these two girls came running by. Fred asked "is that them?" and Apheil told him "yes." and so on the girls run back, Fred got out of his car and shouted "hey, are you car hoppers?" and they shout, "no!" and they run. after that, a car drove by in their direction really slowly. . . they were car hoppers, Fred was supposed to call 9-1-1 on them.

Then one day, Fred had to drive into Chicago for something or other, and Apheil tapped into Fred's arm. he sent a pain up through it until Fred let go and let him point on the map. He sent Fred to all these places around Chicago that Fred had never been to before. He took him into this art museum that he'd never been in, and showed him a series of pictures about the revelations. and interpreted them for him. Fred told me about what he found, and that he now believes it was all just to scare him.

Fred asked Apheil what he should do on one day, and Apheil told him to go get a job, he told him where, and now Fred has a good job and is making enough money to get by.

another day, (like two weeks after all this started) Fred asked Apheil if Youki was still there. and Apheil told him no, that they had killed youki, when Fred became good. So Fred wrote on his wall Fred Slayer of Youki, on his wall. Apheil, by now, had trained Fred to associate certain words, images, sounds, with him, because of all the help and the off-oija-board-work they'd done together. Apheil told him "no, you weren't slayer of Youki, I was." so Fred says, "yeah, you're right, but i helped." so they ended up with Apheil with Fred's help slayer of youki. Then apheil tell him, "cross out slayer of youki" so Fred does. then he tells him to "cross out with" and he ended up with just Apheil Fred's help on the wall. and so Fred believed that Apheil was there to help him, and he let Apheil into his body, gave him as much power as he wanted, because he didn't know he was bad.

Fred then asked him what he should do now that he'd gotten all the help he needed, and Apheil told him to rip up the oija board. Fred asked 'what now' and Apheil told him to burn the oija board. so he did.

One time, Apheil took over Fred's whole body, and he made Fred stagger around outside, for a while before Fred took back control. Fred just kind of laughed about it because he thought that Apheil was just playing a game. But that made Apheil angry.

Fred learned to love Apheil, because to Fred, Apheil was a savior. and so he appriciated everything that Apheil did for him. but then Apheil turned evil, he told Fred he should kill himself, and all sorts of things. He gives Fred pains and makes it impossible for him to think or function, he makes Fred's computer crash, or rather, any computer he uses, when he tries to research this kind of thing. he gives Fred warts, and makes them go away. Fred tried to cross out all the writing about Apheil and Youki he'd written on his wall with a big black sharpie, but when he came back into the room, the words were re-written and his sharpie scribbles had faded. There are all sorts of marks in his walls that Fred could not have made, and Nails are coming out of the walls, there's weird hair under the paint that wasn't there before.

Apheil gains strength and tries to make Fred kill himself, but Fred refuses. Apheil just taunts and tortures Fred with pain and fear all day long, and now its to the point of being an obsession. Fred tried going into a church to see if that would help to stop it, but Apheil came right with him into the church. he washes himself in holy water but that doesn't help either. He's seen Apheil as a Dark displacement of air in his room. I've watched Apheil talk to Fred in my room, and it definitely isn't normal.

He's been getting other signs from apheil, like words written on his wall in a language that he doesn't know, and the other day, he was given a perfect 6 on his window in condensation. he took a picture of it. Apheil told him to never take a picture of him or anything that Apheil does to him. So Fred thought he'd try taking pictures and see what happens. he also told Fred to read and write things, Fred had no clue what that meant, so he hasn't gone out of his way to do either of those things. apheil also told Fred that i was stupid and couldn't be trusted, that's one reason Fred has been spending so much more time with me.

I don't know how to get rid of this thing, all the things that it seems like Demons shouldn't be able to stand, Apheil can stand right through them. Fred wheres Silver chains all over himself, he carries crosses in his pockets, burns sage and keeps garlic, and washes in holy water but nothing works. I know something is up because he feels so off when i'm talking to him. my brother is usually one of those really calm, normal people, though he's been depressed for a year now. I'm not real gullible or anything, but i watched him get and lose a wart in an hour. I'm worried that he might hurt himself or someone else if this doesn't stop. I need to know if exorcism is what to do? At this point I'm not sure because it can go wherever he goes with holy water and crosses and everything. If exorcism is not the answer, is there anything else we can do?

I'm sorry this was so long, but this is the information I was able to rack up, i'm not sure what's irrelevant, so i shared it all. I hope there is something i can do for him. He would have asked you himself, but he doesn't have a computer that works right now.

thankyou for your time.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2010, 01:20:24 pm by SheWhoFeels »
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Re: My Brother is Possessed By a Demon
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2010, 05:34:09 pm »
First off, he needs to see a psychologist/psychiatrist, not just a therapist or counselor. This sounds an awful lot like it could be a mental disorder & the only way to know that is for a professional to examine him. If it is a demon, simply going to church isn't going to be much help. Your brother would genuinely have to believe the doctrine. If it is a genuine possession it is still in the middle stages & will only get worse.

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Re: My Brother is Possessed By a Demon
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2010, 05:52:44 pm »
Thanks, he's actually already been to a psychologist, and he is depressed, but that's it. I don't know what it is, but there is both physical and mental weirdness going on. If it is a demon, which i guess it is, since Apheil told him he was a demon, i don't know what to do, because we're not religious people, we never go to church, never used to, and on top of that, we're not Catholic, we're Jewish. . . We thought maybe an exorcism, but i don't see how that would help if holy water and crosses don't do anything. . . how does it get worse? and, uh, how bad does it get???? would it help if Apheil wasn't such a big part of his life? he's kind of obsessed. I don't know what to think right now, but its definitely not normal.
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Re: My Brother is Possessed By a Demon
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2010, 06:05:11 pm »
I will start here this may be a little irrelevant but I noticed that "Youki" (You-Kye) is Japanese for demon. That is the first thing I noticed. Okay your brother is not Jesus and the entity Apheil is not god (I am sure this is obvious).  
Drawing symbols on you wall that you have no idea what they do or are is BAD. Actually drawing on the wall at all is bad. Anyway combine that with the Ouija board and that makes an easy door way for anyone to enter. It is an open door for anyone. The entity Apheil was right to have "Fred" destroy it, this closes the gateway but the sigils should also be erased. I won't go into to much detail but those can do a lot of damage in the right or wrong hands. Now trusting things from 4chan where every other post is perverted is not going to enhance your home decor. There are very few artistic things on that website that I would put in my home. The people on that site are not smart end of story.

Almost done ranting, holy water usually does not work but people have lost touch on how to make holy water. I can explain that later. But you are not likely to find it in a church. They will just poor tap water but since it is in a church it is "holy". They have to bless it too and they neglect that a lot. Then they can do that wrong and have it be not as good. Okay crosses, crucifixes same thing. Do not work unless they are blessed properly. Also Jesus probably finds crosses offensive anyway since they symbolize his death not his resurrection.

Okay now the good part, what to do. You could try an exorcism but I doubt a church based one would work.  Fred has to admit the entity is a problem and that he does not want it anymore. Fred has to tell the entity to leave and if it does not abide then you take action. Also make sure his walls are clean. Burn sage in the house and put olive oil around the house and in entrances.

If you have anymore information that would be nice. I would like quoted messages of this wall or pictures would be better. Since some might be written in a language Fred does not know. I need to look to make sure what exactly it says. Trust me I will be able to tell.  If it is all in English then kindly quote it.

Okay so try my suggestions and if they do not work i'll tell you the harder steps, if you need them. Burn sage and get olive oil. Spill the olive oil on ground and make sure it forms a completed line. No dashes or gaps. Put it at all entrances and around the house for extra protection. Something tells me that this entity is going to be more stubborn... So i'll be waiting for your replies.
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Re: My Brother is Possessed By a Demon
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2010, 07:52:58 pm »
Thanks for getting back to me. I completely agree with all your ranting, but as I am the little sister, i can't exactly do much  about it for obvious reasons. He draws on his walls just because he can, it was a nice design and he didn't believe in the whole mumbo jumbo of it all. And all the 4chan stuff, yeah, i know, but there's no telling him that. If he was living at home with us, nothing would ever have happened, and Aphiel rubs that in his face all the time.

With the pictures, he is borrowing my camera and taking pictures now. the writing is not in English, if it were i would definitely have quoted it.

I didn't think crosses would work, but what about the silver? i thought that was wacko too, and Apheil just gave him warts up and down his arms to make him think he had a rash from the chains, but it went away in an hours time.

Fred did realize that it was a problem, and told Apheil to get out as soon as he realized that he was bad. Apheil basically laughed in his face and told him that he was there to stay.

He tried sharpie-ing out everything that he'd written about Apheil and Youki, but when he came back to his room, all his sharpie work had faded, and the words and designs were rewritten over it, along with other things.

He burns sage, but i will tell him to try olive oil too, he can't put it at the severances or anything, because he's in a house with a bunch of other people, and that would be weird. And Apheil comes with him everywhere, he is 'inside' of Fred, and tags along wherever Fred goes, Fred spends a lot of time in his car, so Apheil does too, you can't really burn sage in a car, or poor olive oil in there.

Will that really get Apheil to leave, or will it just piss him off?

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Re: My Brother is Possessed By a Demon
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2010, 09:58:30 am »
I really doubt the olive oil will make this one leave. Olive oil tends to be more of a protection. It does not tend to reject as much. Okay silver is a myth and again has to be blessed. BLESSED is a key word for anything effective against "evil" it is only effective because it is BLESSED. It does not matter the shape or the material as much as it does for it to be blessed. It also must be blessed correctly. People tend to bless the same things and people get confused with these items working in place of the blessings. Such as crosses, silver, holy water etc.

That means a no go on silver.

I would like to see these pictures of the wall. The room as well actually. I want to see the energy structure as well as other things.   It is something I have learned from too much free time. If you really want the technicalities then i'll post them, but it has to do with the sigils and what they are doing with the energy of the room. They could be doing anything or nothing but it is best to be sure.

Well your brother has admitted the entity is bad and does not want it. The entity will not leave. so now it is time to take action. I will recommend an exorcism. However an exorcism means that a person gets the entity away from their body. Okay so no where in that does it say you need a certain religion, priest, or method. Just get the damn thing out and away. I would do my internet research on this and see what you find.

Also make sure your brother knows suicide is bad. So is death right now. If he dies the entity may have power to do even worse things. Since it is now tied to his soul.
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Re: My Brother is Possessed By a Demon
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 07:18:01 am »
well it is interesting because in Judaism they don't really believe in demons. But it would be wise to not go around saying to your local rabbi "I think my brother is possesed" but rather ask and say "I am worried about my brother, this is what he has been doing and saying, please give council to him to see someone". And it is true silver doesn't do anything to demons, it is the blessed part. Also Kabbalah Rabbis don't do excorsims so just leave that one out to begin with.

In an older post I posted a book written by Doris Wagner called 'How to cast out demons: A guide to the basics'. I only make reference to this book because there are steps in this book and a survey that you can give your brother to see if he may have a mental illness because 99 times out of 100 it is mental or social problems. I will admit some of the things she says is harsh because she is a strong christian but the way she goes about finding out if one is possessed is the key.

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Re: My Brother is Possessed By a Demon
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2010, 06:11:20 pm »
Thank you all for the help and suggestions that you have given me.

My brother had himself an exorcism and Aphiel is now gone from his room, if not the world.

I have a feeling he will never be completely the same, but he is much more normal now, except his ideas of what he wants in life have become more clear, and he is now considering going to college.

thanks for your help.
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