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Witches Brew => The Book of Shadows => Topic started by: Levinthross on May 16, 2009, 02:26:57 PM

Title: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Levinthross on May 16, 2009, 02:26:57 PM
most of us here now that crossroads are used heavily in some practices of magic in order to summon entitys or invoke godly powers especially in hoodoo and yoruban practices. But is also seen other cultures likened to hermes who partakes of the title as god of travel and hekate whos domain are tri-crossroads. Although unfortunately i dont have any available and disclosed crossrroads in my area but lately i have been contemplating the use of doorways. which are already in use to let people and things in or out of are domains. Could doorways inscribed with symobls, runes, and seals be used to summon a door of which spirits can traverse through? Even within biblical texts the jews during passover marked there door frames with the blood of lambs to show there affiliation of god, preventing the angel of death from entering.

Please post your thoughts. :-D
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Angelus on May 20, 2009, 01:28:54 PM
Doorways and crossroads hold a significant amount of lore about them. Protection rituals have always been put on doors such as salt for keeping out pretty much anything, iron for keeping out fae or even urine for vampires and using certain magick, theoreticaly you could use a doorway as a metaphoric doorway to other planes of existence in a ritual or such. The crossroad is another story. Its where the lost and the damned roam. Lost spirits become enraged, devils make deals and good people just shouldnt hang around when it gets dark.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Levinthross on May 21, 2009, 05:32:04 PM
im interested on how you arrived at you opinion of the crossroads???
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Angelus on May 21, 2009, 05:44:28 PM
im interested on how you arrived at you opinion of the crossroads???

Good old fashioned folklore. Making a deal/wish at the crossroads goes back almost as long as crossroads have existed. So has stories of people meeting someone at a crossroads asking to be taken home by a passing good simaritan then it goes to the good old phantom hitchiker legend, it is thought that if someone dies at a crossroad the spirit does not know what way to go and is lost forever at the crossroads. This also was said to work on vampires if you buried the body of a suspected vampire at a crossroad they couldnt find the way back home where they could slowly drain and kill the family. There is alot of lore about crossroads.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Levinthross on May 23, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
hmm i see you have a point there  :-o
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: oldbill4823 on May 23, 2009, 01:37:04 AM
Cross roads occupy a huge area in south american superstition.
Brujos and Brujahs use them for their practices.
See anyone hanging around cross roads at night in South America and you may get a nasty surprise!
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Angelus on May 25, 2009, 05:30:17 AM
The good old story of blues singer Robert Johnson. He made a pact at a crossroads by allowing a demon (the devil) to tune his guitar making him the greatest blues musician ever. The tv show supernatural used his story for an episode. Look him up on wikipedia. The legend is pretty good and the titles of his songs back up the legend.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Moloch on May 25, 2009, 08:18:18 AM
I'll give a cookie(metaphorically speaking) to whomever can name the crossroads Robert Johnson used to have the Devil tune his guitar for him. (Angelus, keep quiet.)
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Levinthross on May 25, 2009, 10:18:56 PM
hold up actually that is a common misconception the big black man referred to in this song is referring to the voodoo god Ellegua who is summoned at the crossroads
in exchange for his soul or worship he gave him the ability to play the guitar as was his claim to fame.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Muerte on May 25, 2009, 11:05:48 PM
  Thats the story, but unfortionately, you didn't identify the crossroad, so no cookie for you.  I submitte via P.M., but I don't like cookies.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Levinthross on May 26, 2009, 01:20:05 AM
well now that i have lost may  it partake of this knowledge??? 0:)pretty please
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Fatass on May 30, 2009, 08:27:30 PM
The good old story of blues singer Robert Johnson. He made a pact at a crossroads by allowing a demon (the devil) to tune his guitar making him the greatest blues musician ever. The tv show supernatural used his story for an episode. Look him up on wikipedia. The legend is pretty good and the titles of his songs back up the legend.
I must see this episode, Robert Johnson happens to kick ass.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Muerte on May 30, 2009, 08:59:18 PM
well now that i have lost may  it partake of this knowledge??? 0:)pretty please
Tut tut, you simple have to look, and you shall find.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: onishadowolf on May 31, 2009, 08:31:19 AM
I smell cookies!!!
Aww, am I  too late?!?
I believe the croossroad was the one in four corners, where the four corners of states meet. Am I close? 
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Muerte on May 31, 2009, 08:49:32 AM
  No cookie for you.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: onishadowolf on May 31, 2009, 08:55:24 AM
Damn, well PM me the answer.


Can I have a litle tiny piece for effort.  :(
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Muerte on May 31, 2009, 08:59:03 AM
  You can smell the cookie, and the answer lies at the tips of your fingers my freind, like life, I do not expose the answer so easily.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Moloch on May 31, 2009, 09:11:28 AM
No one has been correct thus far - keep trying.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Dr.JM on May 31, 2009, 09:05:29 PM
A crossroad near Dockery Plantation, somewhere between Ruleville and Cleveland, Mississippi.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Muerte on May 31, 2009, 09:10:18 PM
  Actually you are a little too far south, but you are on the right track.  Or should I say road?
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Dr.JM on May 31, 2009, 09:57:42 PM
Alright, back to the subject...

In Icelandic folk lore's, if you happen to be on a crossroad on new years evening, you will meet elves or some hidden people.  They will try to give you gifts and if you accept one of their gifts, you'll go insane!  There are lots and lots of Icelandic folk lore stories about crossroads...

But yeah I have heard some stories of the usage of doorways, but sadly...  I can't remember any at the moment. :/
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: onishadowolf on May 31, 2009, 10:13:13 PM
I would love to do an experiment on these doorways. And the crossroads stuff too.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Angelus on June 01, 2009, 06:19:54 AM
  Actually you are a little too far south, but you are on the right track.  Or should I say road?

Im pretty sure It was near Dockery Plantation. Don't know much about the U.S. but i know its between Ruleville and Cleveland, Mississippi.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Muerte on June 01, 2009, 06:30:48 AM
  Actually you are a little too far south, but you are on the right track.  Or should I say road?

Im pretty sure It was near Dockery Plantation. Don't know much about the U.S. but i know its between Ruleville and Cleveland, Mississippi.

  You guys are really quite close, but it is an actual crossroads that is being searched for not a place, He is looking for the junction where the roads cross, not a near location.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Levinthross on June 01, 2009, 04:06:34 PM
hmmmmmmm so sorry im to lazy to search that up right now
hmmm :focus: i only really want to know how to recreate crossroads within doorways for several spells  and such because crossroads atleast in suburban southern california arent very plentiful unless i attempt to use streets and highways at night which not only eliminate privacy but is predominantly illegal.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Muerte on June 01, 2009, 04:48:06 PM
hmmmmmmm so sorry im to lazy to search that up right now
hmmm :focus: i only really want to know how to recreate crossroads within doorways for several spells  and such because crossroads atleast in suburban southern california arent very plentiful unless i attempt to use streets and highways at night which not only eliminate privacy but is predominantly illegal.

  Well, if you are insistant, I would suggest you first study Hoodoo, then , once you are ready, scout out a few of the more sothern desert roads, you know, those lonely places no one hardly ever goes.  Never substitute when it comes to spells, besides, if you are successful, you do not want anything to have any kind of immediate access to you, once you open a door, you will find it is very hard to close it once again.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Angelus on June 01, 2009, 07:26:07 PM
You can't realy substitute. The crossroads hold a metaphorical symbol within the spell that you may not be able to achieve with a doorway. And google map says the robert johnson crossroads are on Desoto Ave and N State Street in Clarksdale.
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Muerte on June 01, 2009, 07:48:45 PM
  And google web search says this, not trying to debunk you or anything, but some things on the net, well...  You are also at a disadvantage by having to research from across the big pond.

http://www.hauntedamericatours.com/cursed/ (http://www.hauntedamericatours.com/cursed/)

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/19975/robert_johnsons_mississippi_blues_crossroads.html?cat=16 (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/19975/robert_johnsons_mississippi_blues_crossroads.html?cat=16)

http://www.vagablogging.net/robert-johnson-sold-his-soul-to-the-devil-in-rosedale-mississippi.html (http://www.vagablogging.net/robert-johnson-sold-his-soul-to-the-devil-in-rosedale-mississippi.html)

  It's just a few, but.....
Title: Re: Crossroads and doorways
Post by: Levinthross on June 01, 2009, 10:43:25 PM
hmmm thanx i already study hoodoo yoruba and vodoun but i was just wondering out of convenience whether or not i could do it.