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Witches Brew => The Book of Shadows => Topic started by: KubeSix on February 03, 2010, 12:38:47 PM
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I've been thinking about this for a few days and my curiosity must be satisfied! Could you, theoretically, seal a spell into an object?
For those who've played RPGs, I'm talking about something like the scrolls you get in lots of those games that allow you to cast a spell, sometimes instantly or sometimes with an incantation and usually only once. What I'm thinking is the original ritual when sealing the spell would include directives to keep the spell inert until activated in a specific way, but my question is: is that possible?
EDIT: I'm asking because I tend to think more on the psychic side of things as some of you know, so I'm used to the idea of simply willing something into existence rather than setting up a whole spell, etc. But magic tends to have better results than psychic abilities because of the channeling of the will, etc. but it's more costly and longer. So if you can set up a spell and make it so you can easily use it when you need it, even if only once, my thought is you'd be getting the best of both worlds, right? The effect of the spell, with the simplicity of the psychic ability.
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If you mean the kind of thing where you open it or whatever & the spell just happens, no. If you mean more like a gris-gris bag which is designed for a specific purpose then yes. The power of a spell however is mostly in the intent not the material elements that go into it.
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Oh yeah, I didn't mean open it and *poof* the spell happens; what I meant was for a way to make the casting more simple. Let's say you'd draw a certain geometrical figure, write certain words, etc. for a spell and then do the incantation. Instead, making it... portable. You still have to say the words, but the symbols and all are already in place on the object you'd carry, y'know? It would still require the concentration of the caster, but wouldn't be as long a process as doing the complete thing.
In short, preparing the spell in advance on a small object in order to have on the fly casting.
I'm asking mostly out of curiosity; I'd probably never use that myself :P
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Ah, I see. Thanks a lot for the info! My curiosity is satisfied... for now :P
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or you could dip a little into psychology and program your mind to act whenever you draw a certain design or say a certain word.
that's what i have to do sometimes because my brain doesn't like to focus.
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Same here, my brain's attention span isn't to be trusted... :roll:
I heard of some people using that technique actually. I only read of it once, but the way they described it is you train your mind to act by reflex when your do certain things.
One of the examples was of a guy who used to write a word ("power" I think) on objects he wanted to move with telekinesis.
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i use latin (i know, cheesy.), Futhark Runes, or a combination of both. makes things a lot easier for me.
i use latin because those words aren't used in everyday conversation so i won't risk any mishaps.
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latin is the shiznat and alsom= my language of preference! gris gris bags are more like portable spells but they never quite stop or can be sealed. ipersonally use spell kits i compose myself sometimes for small rituals on the go at school and the like. However once your able to channel your magic better and access it quicker spells in general not only become easier but quicker meditation helps with this alot!and a word on mental magick i think it helps if you create a sort of corner in your mind you can recede in and mentally work through rituals thaats how i was taught to do magic with just your mind its not my expertise but it works in a pinch. but all in all carrying diminutive or symbolic ritual items on you for quick things isn't as empractical as you may think needle=athame, thimble=chalice or cauldron the almighty pencil wand or the infamous index finger. pre written sigils on slips of paper chalk for public park rituals colored lighters for candles perfume sprays for incense all things you can keep in a backpack or mid sized purse
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I don't always have all the ingredients I need on hand, especially if its a fix I, or someone else is in that needs tending to immediately. I call in the energies I need. I literally put out my hand and ask those of the light to give it to me. Once I feel the energy come to me I place it where ever it need be. It could be anything from a specific plant, to sigil, to literally what ever is necessary for the situation. Having said that, I don't everything and would never deem to, so sometimes I will just ask for whatever energies are necessary for the best and highest good of the situation or person.
I find this also works when placing it things because you can "seal" it in easily, because that is my intent. Sorry, I hope I am on topic, I just read the posts and felt like this was something I needed to offer.
I find that since I have been calling in energy this way, my spells and energy work in general have quickened on many levels:)
Cheers.
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I think in theory it should work. If you collected a lot of energy and bound it to a scroll with a seal. Now the seal must be broken with a specific command such a phrase (insert magick words here). I could see this releasing the energy but i'm still unsure how you get the desired effect. It is a matter of will but is it possible to bind your will of the energy into the scroll as well?
Well in theory the seal you used to seal the energy into the scroll could also be designed to release the energy in a certain way. Like putting your finger over a hose and making the water spray different ways. But no matter what it seems your will is a necessary factor in achieving desired affects.
However I think if the energy is already in the scroll you will not lose any "mana" (I could not resist an rpg reference)
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The energy you would call in is pure. it wouldn't be bound to me at all.
So let's say I was guided to help an animal at birth, but the animal still had time in its pregnancy. I could call in the energies of... (insert here) ..... and place it in the scroll (I like that). I never really thought of it as my will, so much as I am asking for what I need and I am being given it by the powers that be, or whatever shaman decides they need to gather it for me in order to aid me in my work.
I literally put out my hand ask for it, and the energy is there. At least that's how it works for me. I intend the time it needs to be released. So in other words I would place the energy that has been called in into the scroll and say, "okay, this needs to be released once the minute mother has gone into labor".
Its as simple or complex as we make it. There are many teachings about that. So I try (not always succeeding) to make it as such. The shaman of the South Americas believe there is Hucha energy (heavy energy) and Sumi energy (light energy...not the canadian olympic mascot, no :) ). if there is Hucha energy around you, say from an argument you have had, they could clear that simply by coming over and blowing it away.
There are varying degrees of energy of course, and varying degrees of what needs to be done to clear it, but this is just an example of making it an easy journey or difficult one.
So apply that to spell work. make it easy. call in the energy required to assist,set the intention of when it needs to be released, and let the powers that be, guides, guardians, etc. handle the rest.
I know people who do this with reiki. They literally reiki the situation they need to assist in. I call in all those who are involved in such and such a situation (say an intervention) on such and such a date at such and such a time and send them peace, love and understanding as they confront whomever they are confronting. They could do this a week before it happens because they will not be able to physically be there.
This works more on a psychic level it bypasses a lot of the physical stuff necessary, such as the scroll or object.
At least that's my take on it :-)
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you also may want to look into the chaos magic practice of hyper sigils
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i'm always nervous about making sigils because, to me, the meanings can be so vague.
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I am generally very careful with Chaos magick. I find you need to be, as with anything, well versed in it.
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that helps enormously if you understand what to do but sometimes understanding the mechanics of it
takes some of the "chais" out of it and dont worry sigils arent necissarily supposed to make since to you there merely to convey a message visually to your subconscience.
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so wait... chaos magick is just doing things based on feeling with little or no training?
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Chaos magick, the way I've come to see it is not abiding to a single way of belief, kind of like hermetics would do. More like using various things from various schools to get what you want, keeping in mind that the meaning the things carry or their origins matter little if you can still put your all into it. Example: those people who call themselves Jedi and use the Force as a medium to channel their magic (not talking about the delusional fanboys)
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sweet! i'm a chaos mage! i don't give a flying fran drescher about belief or cultural continuity! :-D
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so..... what is a fran drescher anyway? :-D
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only the most vile beast ever to walk the earth.
be warned. this may be disturbing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkp7wsJc8MI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkp7wsJc8MI)
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As weird (and possibly stupid) as this will sound, is it possible to transfer spells say onto a blank deck of cards, or onto a handmade deck. Would this add a more personal connection to the spell considering you made the medium? I say that because cards are portable and I have a deep infatuation with them (hence why I enjoy Tarot and other things that involve cards), however back to the subject.
If I did possibly transfer spells or my own spells onto this medium(s) would an activation key be required or would it simply be a matter of willpower? I'm not exactly sure if this was already explained so my apologies if I'm repeating a question.
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What Arcane Artifice is asking is: is it possible to put spells into cards. Even if the cards have a set purpose such as tarot. This is indeed tied to this topic since you have to seal them into the cards. If you have a personal connection with the cards that connection will strengthen anything you attempt with the cards. Since you have that personal connection you are more attached to these cards. More so then a random piece of parchment.
I would also take into account what the cards are made out of. As well as any ink on them. There is metallic paint you can use if you like to make your own image on blank ones. (The metallic components in the paint can be an amplifier and other things)
But this whole topic is discussing whether or not sealing the spells is possible. We are still figuring out how that works.
I do believe that if there is energy in the cards for the spell then the seal has to be infused with energy too. Kinda like magnets repel each other if on same poles. It is also like it takes a ghost to punch a ghost. You need energy to mess with energy.
You can still draw whatever seal you want but put some energy into it.
As for the evocation of the spells well that is still being debated. Everything I stated is from me so it may be found wrong or right. But this is an opinion, use it as a starting point.
Also I like your name and welcome to monstrous.
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Thank you very much that helped quite a bit and I'm honored to be here.
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as far as putting energy into premade cards i would only venture to say that it would be best if you evoked some kind of demi imp or summon a angel of the specific card at hand to either inhabit or bless the card specifically or bless it with symbols relasting to the car but i think that altering each card in some way would allow you to better ibide it with power or even better make a set of cards with sealing magick within them the whole purpose.