[Muerte]

So i'm hearing alot of different opinions.  Is Enochian a potential magick or just over exaggerated through passed on generations and increased popularity?

I did a little research on Enochian last week, only brief though.  Enochian is like the language of angels right?  By using that the theory is that you could summon and angel and harness their power and using it for yourself?

It kind of sounds foolish to me, if Enochian is what it says then it has to be extremely dangerous.  I mean you can draw energy from natural wordly elements but to try and take power from an other wordly being seems dangerous.  Whether it be from Angels or dark energy from demons..  Seems almost insane and impossible to control if its even possible. 

Maybe someone might have just a little more information on it.

I completely agree.  It wouldn't make sense to go to someone less powerful when you could go straight to the top.  I tihnk angels are meant to be guardians of humans but not actually provide our every last wish.  Life isn't always perfect but there are always to fix it on your own and when you've at least tried and failed then God will help out.  

Dealing with Angelic magick seems dangerous and reckless.. I wouldn't want to piss off an angel by asking it for power to do simple tasks or to use as revenge.  Things like that are selfish and its lazy in a way because youre asking for all this power for tasks you could do yourself.

  Oh my Oh my OH MY.  It seems we may have struck something near gold with this one.  There must be a god because I had almost given up hope of someone with any sensibilities ever again joining our community and low and behold here is one with much promise.  Common sense, humility, and a willingness to look at things from differing view points!  To top it off he has also shown not only the want to learn new things but he has also demonstrated an ability to research his own answers before speaking about things.  So far I am slightly impressed.  Stick around and keep it up Zep.

  P.S. You may want to start using the spell check option a bit more.  Proper punctuation and spelling go along way in others perceptions.  Just a little friendly advice, which I do not offer all that often. (the friendly part at least)

[Moloch]

So i'm hearing alot of different opinions.  Is Enochian a potential magick or just over exaggerated through passed on generations and increased popularity?

I did a little research on Enochian last week, only brief though.  Enochian is like the language of angels right?  By using that the theory is that you could summon and angel and harness their power and using it for yourself?

It kind of sounds foolish to me, if Enochian is what it says then it has to be extremely dangerous.  I mean you can draw energy from natural wordly elements but to try and take power from an other wordly being seems dangerous.  Whether it be from Angels or dark energy from demons..  Seems almost insane and impossible to control if its even possible. 

Maybe someone might have just a little more information on it.

I completely agree.  It wouldn't make sense to go to someone less powerful when you could go straight to the top.  I tihnk angels are meant to be guardians of humans but not actually provide our every last wish.  Life isn't always perfect but there are always to fix it on your own and when you've at least tried and failed then God will help out.  

Dealing with Angelic magick seems dangerous and reckless.. I wouldn't want to piss off an angel by asking it for power to do simple tasks or to use as revenge.  Things like that are selfish and its lazy in a way because youre asking for all this power for tasks you could do yourself.

  Oh my Oh my OH MY.  It seems we may have struck something near gold with this one.  There must be a god because I had almost given up hope of someone with any sensibilities ever again joining our community and low and behold here is one with much promise.  Common sense, humility, and a willingness to look at things from differing view points!  To top it off he has also shown not only the want to learn new things but he has also demonstrated an ability to research his own answers before speaking about things.  So far I am slightly impressed.  Stick around and keep it up Zep.

  P.S. You may want to start using the spell check option a bit more.  Proper punctuation and spelling go along way in others perceptions.  Just a little friendly advice, which I do not offer all that often. (the friendly part at least)

I think I'll reserve my judgment here, Muerte. Many have joined that had a lot of promise, only to disappoint as soon as that promise was noticed. Hiowever, for the time being... he does still have that promise for now though.

Hello Everyone. I'm rather new but would like to comment on the subject if i could.

My personal feelings are magic of any type can be dangerous if the person wielding it is of weak will. Every form of magic is a projection of ones will to effect an outcome of some sorts.

In short Enochian magic is no more dangerous than a loaded pistol. In the right hands it is a tool just like anything else; in the wrong hands it becomes a menace.

If you have any fear of practicing a certain type of magic I suggest you start off slow with something your more able to cope with until you build up the will to move on to what you want to do.

[jordyn]

Hello Everyone. I'm rather new but would like to comment on the subject if i could.

My personal feelings are magic of any type can be dangerous if the person wielding it is of weak will. Every form of magic is a projection of ones will to effect an outcome of some sorts.

In short Enochian magic is no more dangerous than a loaded pistol. In the right hands it is a tool just like anything else; in the wrong hands it becomes a menace.

If you have any fear of practicing a certain type of magic I suggest you start off slow with something your more able to cope with until you build up the will to move on to what you want to do.

the right hands  in this context don't need tools, they have their mind and a strong enough will.

but some tools in the right hands can make amazing things!

http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/dynnykuns/jewelery/

Hello Everyone. I'm rather new but would like to comment on the subject if i could.

My personal feelings are magic of any type can be dangerous if the person wielding it is of weak will. Every form of magic is a projection of ones will to effect an outcome of some sorts.

In short Enochian magic is no more dangerous than a loaded pistol. In the right hands it is a tool just like anything else; in the wrong hands it becomes a menace.

If you have any fear of practicing a certain type of magic I suggest you start off slow with something your more able to cope with until you build up the will to move on to what you want to do.

the right hands  in this context don't need tools, they have their mind and a strong enough will.

but some tools in the right hands can make amazing things!

http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/dynnykuns/jewelery/

In this context the mind and a strong will are the tools.  Nice jewelery by the way.

[Muerte]

Hello Everyone. I'm rather new but would like to comment on the subject if i could.

My personal feelings are magic of any type can be dangerous if the person wielding it is of weak will. Every form of magic is a projection of ones will to effect an outcome of some sorts.

In short Enochian magic is no more dangerous than a loaded pistol. In the right hands it is a tool just like anything else; in the wrong hands it becomes a menace.

If you have any fear of practicing a certain type of magic I suggest you start off slow with something your more able to cope with until you build up the will to move on to what you want to do.

  Not telling us anything we do not already know however thank you for sharing your opinion and framing in such a way that it is understandable.

  As for the available enochian scripts, well I would be more than happy to let anyone use it.  The fact of the matter is that there are multiple scripts available and the likely hood that anyone actually finds and uses the original script is very slim at best.  I say use it as you will.  This way I can find out which is false and which is true.

  Not telling us anything we do not already know however thank you for sharing your opinion and framing in such a way that it is understandable.

  As for the available enochian scripts, well I would be more than happy to let anyone use it.  The fact of the matter is that there are multiple scripts available and the likely hood that anyone actually finds and uses the original script is very slim at best.  I say use it as you will.  This way I can find out which is false and which is true.

Sorry I got the feeling that the op was new and wanted to give him some incite, tho it is common knowledge (you would be surprised how uncommon common knowledge/common sense actual is).

As for enochian scripts read many books and form a opinion from what you read. Look for books with reference to Dr. John Dee.

And brush up on your latin if you haven't already

[confused_mystery]

no with a couple my abilities... lets say i think that if improve them ALOT then i can literally unleash hell on those who hurt me.. i don't wanna further explain but yea or maybe i will but in a new topic

 

they're not talking physical ugliness, you're not ugly...but with statements like this it makes me wonder what they are seeing, ugliness is more than just a physical appearance, negative people, unhappy people, bitter people, people who place more faith in the outside rather then their inside and make statements like this, concern me...rather than focusing on getting power to make those who hurt you suffer, discover the paths that eliminate those thoughts and encourage you to have a sympathetic understanding for the folly of people knowing that you don't have to behave like them...i wasn't popular in school and i tried this path...i was one of the ugliest most hateful people i knew...i was going to a catholic church but now i realize i was more unhappy with myself that allowed others to pick on that weakness...

you don't realize how much this stuff can muck you up until you realize how much of your humanity you can lose.

i know some beautiful girls i was friends with, but they were ugly on the inside so that they became a vexation to my soul...i avoid them.

[confused_mystery]

 To jordyn :
ok my continued response to the quote that i accidently sent as a full message(well actually the computer went blank for a couple seconds and then i see that the quote was sent as a message, another example of how computers love to screw with me ), well i use to be completely and VERY bitter. The reason for my statements is because of my history with people which basically is that they reject and treat me like crap when i've done nothing wrong to them. Its been like that my whole life. I mean noone would give me a chance to show my caring, happy, and funny side, no they'd just shut me out. i'm done with playing nice and trying. So now i just keep to myself and completely freak out and scare the hell out of people by completely being myself. Most of my humanity has been destroyed  Also i won't let this stuff much me up because i'm much stronger than that 

[Muerte]

  Not telling us anything we do not already know however thank you for sharing your opinion and framing in such a way that it is understandable.

  As for the available enochian scripts, well I would be more than happy to let anyone use it.  The fact of the matter is that there are multiple scripts available and the likely hood that anyone actually finds and uses the original script is very slim at best.  I say use it as you will.  This way I can find out which is false and which is true.

Sorry I got the feeling that the op was new and wanted to give him some incite, tho it is common knowledge (you would be surprised how uncommon common knowledge/common sense actual is).

As for enochian scripts read many books and form a opinion from what you read. Look for books with reference to Dr. John Dee.

And brush up on your latin if you haven't already

  Been there done that.  As if I were one to not do my homework.  The problem here is the original script seems to be missing.  What we have left is just a compilation of others interpretations.  That's always a very smart thing to do.  Take something, modify it, and then let others play with it. 

  As you can see I have formed an opinion, and it leaves me to believe what is available is some what lacking in the believability department. 

Completely agree with Muerte on the available enochian scripts.
If anyone finds one that works, let me know, if you are still able to afterward.

They are about as genuine as the Hitler diaries, or  the Cthulu mythos.

IMHO Its an interesting magical paradigm either, if you believe it totally, or are capable of working magically with your own self deception.

Tenuous links to John Dee and Latin do not have dominion over results. They are just theatrical polyfiller glamours that help set a scene.

[Moloch]

  Not telling us anything we do not already know however thank you for sharing your opinion and framing in such a way that it is understandable.

  As for the available enochian scripts, well I would be more than happy to let anyone use it.  The fact of the matter is that there are multiple scripts available and the likely hood that anyone actually finds and uses the original script is very slim at best.  I say use it as you will.  This way I can find out which is false and which is true.

Sorry I got the feeling that the op was new and wanted to give him some incite, tho it is common knowledge (you would be surprised how uncommon common knowledge/common sense actual is).

As for enochian scripts read many books and form a opinion from what you read. Look for books with reference to Dr. John Dee.

And brush up on your latin if you haven't already

You know what Latin is, Kid? It's a dead language. Dead languages aren't magical, they impart no special character or power to a person's will; they just sound good to retards, morons, and poseurs - like you.

Grow up and get off our boards until you have something worthwhile to add.

[ViciouslyMe]

I'm sorry to go off topic, but I have to wonder. CM, you say not to worry because you're strong, but right before that you also say that your humanity was destroyed. The world is a cold place for everyone, not just one person. We all get s**t (sorry for the language), and we all have people who criticize. Being strong is to hold on to your humanity despite that.

And sorry for going all after school special here, but it needed to be said.

  Not telling us anything we do not already know however thank you for sharing your opinion and framing in such a way that it is understandable.

  As for the available enochian scripts, well I would be more than happy to let anyone use it.  The fact of the matter is that there are multiple scripts available and the likely hood that anyone actually finds and uses the original script is very slim at best.  I say use it as you will.  This way I can find out which is false and which is true.

Sorry I got the feeling that the op was new and wanted to give him some incite, tho it is common knowledge (you would be surprised how uncommon common knowledge/common sense actual is).

As for enochian scripts read many books and form a opinion from what you read. Look for books with reference to Dr. John Dee.

And brush up on your latin if you haven't already

You know what Latin is, Kid? It's a dead language. Dead languages aren't magical, they impart no special character or power to a person's will; they just sound good to retards, morons, and poseurs - like you.

Grow up and get off our boards until you have something worthwhile to add.

Lol wow the epeens around here are hundreds of miles long. Trust me i am done with these boards. I fully know what a dead language is. Its one that is not spoken any longer so it does not change.

The reason I said what I said is because most of the materials on enochian magic I've came across have been in latin.  Enochian magic is just like any other magic you have to work your way around a bunch of crap before you find something that works.

As for calling me "kid" that's a nice way to treat new members. So continue to work in the realm of what you know stick with your view on things and never learn anything new.

I am far from a poser but I don't have to boast my credentials on a forum to feel better about myself, But if I did they would be verifiable can you say the same? or do you practice from your parents basement?