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Aliens, ETs and UFOs => Abduction/Contact => Topic started by: banshee72 on March 28, 2012, 10:46:53 AM

Title: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: banshee72 on March 28, 2012, 10:46:53 AM
I had this strange thing happen to me about 5 years ago. I was sitting on the couch when I felt very weak and everything went blurry all of a sudden and I could hear the tv and see it (but it was all fuzzy) and it sounded like "wah wah wah" (reminded me of the Charlie Brown teacher lol) and I felt this thing lifting me up and putting me upright (I was laying down). It kept making me sit up then lay back down over and over and I couldn't move my eyes, they were just looking straight at the tv but out of the corner of my eye I could see this greyish blob. I tried and tried to scream but I couldn't. But in the end I managed to let a big moan out and I snapped out of it and my friend came running out of my room asking me whats wrong. It was so strange. I haven't really told many people about it just a select few friends.
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Nina on March 29, 2012, 04:07:40 AM
Hm, a very similar thing happened to me years ago. Although the orb wasnt greyish but light blue. Do you remember anything else from that event? No matter how unimportant it may sound. Also, did you find scars on your body after it happened, or new "birth marks"?
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: banshee72 on March 29, 2012, 04:35:09 AM
All I really remember is what I posted in my first post. I don't think I had any scars though. Just felt scared and strange and confused after it happened. I don't know how I managed to moan out my friends name. It was so hard to talk or make any kind of noise when it was happening. The odd thing is that when my friend came running out of the room to see if I was okay, he didn't see nothing. As soon as I let out the moan it just stopped.  I even looked around the living room and there was nothing. It was so weird. I'll never forget it.

On a side note, my mother's side of the family has a history of alien abductions. My mother and I are the only ones who haven't experienced it. Not that we know of anyways. Aliens really freak me out, bad. I don't want to be visited. lol.
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Nina on March 29, 2012, 06:49:58 AM
Hm, with aliens and other entities is really tricky with identification. It may be other sort of a being, not necessarily alien.
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: banshee72 on March 29, 2012, 06:53:37 AM
Hm, with aliens and other entities is really tricky with identification. It may be other sort of a being, not necessarily alien.


Any ideas on what it could have been?
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Jake on March 29, 2012, 07:07:06 AM
Was I visited by an alien?

Almost certainly, no.


I had this strange thing happen to me about 5 years ago....etc

See, for example, Alien Abduction? Science Calls It Sleep Paralysis (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/06/science/alien-abduction-science-calls-it-sleep-paralysis.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm)
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: banshee72 on March 29, 2012, 07:21:10 AM
Was I visited by an alien?

Almost certainly, no.


I had this strange thing happen to me about 5 years ago....etc

See, for example, Alien Abduction? Science Calls It Sleep Paralysis (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/06/science/alien-abduction-science-calls-it-sleep-paralysis.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm)




But I was wide awake then all of a sudden it happened.
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: banshee72 on March 29, 2012, 07:23:38 AM
Is it possible I had a seizure or something?
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Nina on March 29, 2012, 07:42:41 AM
Well, of course it is, but we lack more information to be sure. What preceded to the event, what maybe caused it, what were your vital signs, brain activity...
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Nina on March 29, 2012, 07:55:02 AM
Was I visited by an alien?

Almost certainly, no.


Why is it so hard to accept the possibility, that even if u never had such an experience, others just might? ;)
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Jake on March 29, 2012, 07:57:30 AM
I'm not completely ruling out the possibility... However, in this case, the answer to the question is "almost certainly" no.

Why is it so hard to accept the possibility, that even if you fervently believe such an experience to be plausible, it might not be?
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Nina on March 30, 2012, 02:21:36 AM
It is not hard, but once one lives through such event, its way beyond mere faith ;)
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Jake on March 30, 2012, 06:02:55 AM
It is not hard, but once one lives through such event, its way beyond mere faith ;)

What you are saying, then, is that just because you too may have had a sleep paralysis incident, we must all believe in extraterrestrial visitation?

I'm not saying that this is absolutely impossible.

Just extremely improbable.

The absence of independent witnesses and verifiable data does not help, either.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI)


Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Nina on April 03, 2012, 12:52:49 PM
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is that just because you too may have had a sleep paralysis incident


that was not the case, i dont have to apologize for not fitting someones skeptical mind ;)



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The absence of independent witnesses and verifiable data does not help, either.

Independent witness? As what? My ex husband not good enough cause he doesnt have a degree in ufology? He actually thought that somehow i made him see what i saw, with my super powers. So, what does sound more probable? Aliens or super Nina ;)

I still have marks from that day.

I am so sorry for you really, never had anything extraordinary and miracle worth happen in your life. Maybe then you would understand.
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Jake on April 04, 2012, 03:26:58 AM
i dont have to apologize for not fitting someones skeptical mind ;)

Nobody asked you to apologise.

So, what does sound more probable? Aliens or super Nina ;)

This is a classic false dichotomy - a logical fallacy in which you have omitted consideration of all reasonable alternatives. You suggest that it is an either-or dilemma and offer just two explanations, when, in fact, there are many other viable alternatives. Sleep paralysis - while in itself only a suggested explanation - is a proven, tested, known, measurable phenomena, and thus massively more probable than aliens (unproven) or super-Nina (also un-proven).

I still have marks from that day.

Did you consult medical specialists about your injuries? Did you report this to any authority?

I am so sorry for you really, never had anything extraordinary and miracle worth happen in your life. Maybe then you would understand.

Au contraire. I have witnessed many unexplained situations. I just learned to stop assuming that they were of a supernatural origin until proven so. Besides, life, the world around us - even those things which our post-modern society now considers hum-drum - the very universe, is so full of extraordinary and miraculous (in the layman's sense of the term) phenomena that I don't see the need to make it more "exciting" by positing that fairies or goblins or aliens or angels or demons ad nauseam are responsible. That's Hollywood's view of the world, not reality.
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Loki on April 05, 2012, 04:30:21 PM
Totally agree, most paranormal phenomenon: fairies, aliens, ghosts may have in fact the same origin. We must adopt the skeptic attitude until we get hard facts that can be considered as PROOFS.  Nina thinks the world is taken over by giant lizards, I do believe they are rats in fact ;)
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Loki on April 06, 2012, 03:51:29 PM
http://aliens.monstrous.com/monstrous_parallels.htm (http://aliens.monstrous.com/monstrous_parallels.htm)
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Nina on April 12, 2012, 08:39:59 AM
 
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Nina thinks the world is taken over by giant lizards

*facepalm*

no she doesnt, they are actually mean spaghetti folks from planet of Tomatia :P

@Jake: it wasnt sleep paralysis, i was wide awake, sat on my bed and watched them float around me. Paralysis only came after they made contact (talk).

Doctors here are unable to notice anything out of the ordinary except some minor things that can be attached to pure fluke of nature, and unfortunately, i cannot afford traveling to the Institute in Switzerland that is specialized in UFO abductions. Wow, imagine that, entire Institute of doctors and professors that actually DO believe ;) I would soooo enjoy being present to you talking to them about the subject ;)

Now please excuse me, im going back to my gardening :)
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Jake on April 12, 2012, 12:36:45 PM
...the Institute in Switzerland that is specialized in UFO abductions. Wow, imagine that, entire Institute of doctors and professors that actually DO believe ;) I would soooo enjoy being present to you talking to them about the subject ;)...

I also would find that very enjoyable.

Who is this "institute of doctors and professors" by the way? Or is it just the Raelians or the von Däniken people?

Regarding your other comment,

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Susceptible people experience the sleep paralysis (when they are semi-conscious yet incapable of moving) and sometimes hallucinate so vividly they genuinely believe they are victims of a supernatural event, Richard McNally, professor of psychology at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts told the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Denver.  His study of people claiming they had been kidnapped by aliens found all had suffered sleep paralysis combined with "hypnopompic hallucinations", when vivid, wakening dreams of intruders, flashing lights and an alien presence can seem real.

The same psychological phenomenon can also explain other supernatural beliefs.  "It is part of believing in ghosts," Professor McNally said.  "In Newfoundland it's called being visited by the old hag, in the southern United States its being ridden by the witch, in Europe in the Middle Ages it was the incubus and the succubus, agents of the devil.  In Cambridge, Massachusetts, it's space aliens."

Ten adults convinced they were alien abductees were asked to relive their experiences which were taped and played back to them while they were monitored for stress.  They were compared with ordinary people who said they had never been abducted and another group who had suffered from a genuine experience and been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.  Heart rates, skin sweat levels and other signs of stress were similar to those of the alien abductees, Professor McNally said.  The type of people likely to believe in alien abduction have common patterns that Professor McNally called a "recipe" for an alien abductee.  "First, most had New-Age beliefs, [and] they were not only more open to alien visitation, they are interested in astral projection, tarot cards, telling the future, bioenergetic therapies and so forth.

"Second, they scored high on absorption, a trait associated with fantasy proneness and vivid imagery.  Third, and crucially, they had episodes of apparent sleep paralysis accompanied by hypnopompic – upon waking – hallucinations," Professor McNally said.  "Sleep paralysis occurs in about 30% of the population and about 5% of people will have the paralysis plus the hallucinations.  It can be a terrifying experience."
Title: Re: Was I visited by an alien?
Post by: Nina on April 12, 2012, 12:58:39 PM
I know what sleep paralysis is. :)