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Apocalypse Soon => Religions, Cults & Sects => Topic started by: Mr. Kreepy on January 24, 2009, 05:12:59 AM
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Just something to think about...
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Lol, Kreep you are really nuts... Lol, if my grandmother (father side) saw this she will say you are possesed by a demon, I imagine her telling you " child of the devil, we have to pray G-d to help you"... Lol :evil:
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If being decently intelligent means I'm possessed by a demon, then I'm perfectly fine with that. :wink:
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Good god, she'd want to drive a stake through my heart and burn my corpse to ashes then! *<:)
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Dude, you and I are friends and even I want to do that. *<:)
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You just want to see if I'll die, or magically return and mind-fark you for the rest of your life.
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Wow...If I ever showed this to my family they'd probably lecture me for five days and ban me from the internet until I was twenty. :lol:
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Lol....
:? what it would really happend if Kreepy kill Moloch???? :roll:
Ok, back to reality :-D
Yes my grandmother is extremely Christian, she say Iam a prostitute who give service to the devil....
So imagine what would she think of you 2... Lol :evil:
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I live in an extremely christian household as well. I can only imagine.
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I live alone right now, because I couldn't really get alone with anybody inmy family, except my big brother and big sister, who have there family, but the rest of the family, wow, too much for me about G-d
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I would but I have nowhere to go...so I'm stuck dealing with it and hiding all my personal crap from them.
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That really suck... But hey you are strong you will survive :wink:, until you can get out of there :-D
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Hopefully.
Okay for a back on topic remark: Has anyone heard of those churches that tell the children that santa doesn't exist?
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Well here in Puerto Rico, the churches don't believe in santa. They said that that day is Jesus Christ day of birth so the one who brings presents is "El Niņito Jesus" (Jesus when baby)
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A baby bringing presents to all the kids? :-o
That's a bit of a scary though....oh god, my imagination is giving me scary thoughts again...
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now, that's funny...
considering i'm consistently torn trying to explain to my daughter when she asks me if santa is real and my desire to not quell her questioning belief, he's there...in spirit, especially if he's indeed derived from King Wenceslas, as he could very well be a bohemian ancestor. :)
the big difference, santa encourages materialism, good kids get their toys, inspiring children to behave for toys rather than to just be good people and parents in a situation to buy, buy, and buy some more, there's this fascinating movie, what would jesus buy making some interesting points about how christmas has become so material and less about the end of the harvest celebration, there's one on a town that banned christmas and even a mockumentry about a group of guys who went searching for santa.
jesus got gold and incense for christmas(sensible gifts) my daughter got a hundred and fifty dollar interactive dinosaur and another fifty or so dollars in gifts and still asks for more.
like any god, spirit or demon he's as real as those who believe in him make him, and the one with the most believers wins.
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the big difference, God encourages cowardice, good Christians go to Heaven, inspiring Christians to behave for fear of their souls and the reward of paradise rather than to just be good people.
Fixed that one for you, Jordyn. :wink:
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Here in Puerto Rico we have one of the most long christmas in the world, we have the 24 and 25 that you guys have. And then in january 5 and 6 we have the day of the three wise men (los 3 reyes magos) that day the children put a bowl of water and a box of grass, for the camels that bring the wise man who bring them present. That is a way of symbolizing the gifts Jesus got (gold, frankincense and myrrh) so at the morning the water is gone the grass too (the parents trew it away) and you have 3 gifts, but these gift shoul be more sentimental than material.
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the big difference, God encourages cowardice, good Christians go to Heaven, inspiring Christians to behave for fear of their souls and the reward of paradise rather than to just be good people.
Fixed that one for you, Jordyn. :wink:
am i a coward?
i've always been a good person...even being a godless whore i was a good person, that's why i was a whore and not a hateful ball of violence, but the pretty girl that lay with a lot of men and had them calling me god.
It's really not that simple to get into heaven and only God can judge His creations so i fear a lot of the "christians" you are refering to will be going the other way, i've met some that i can whole heartedly agree are anything but Christly or like early jews, but then i'd be judging and fully entitled to go to hell myself, but God speaks to me often, so i'm pretty faithful i won't. :P
i'll be the first one in line to point down at fred phelps and laugh at him. ;)
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Here in Puerto Rico we have one of the most long christmas in the world, we have the 24 and 25 that you guys have. And then in january 5 and 6 we have the day of the three wise men (los 3 reyes magos) that day the children put a bowl of water and a box of grass, for the camels that bring the wise man who bring them present. That is a way of symbolizing the gifts Jesus got (gold, frankincense and myrrh) so at the morning the water is gone the grass too (the parents trew it away) and you have 3 gifts, but these gift shoul be more sentimental than material.
i think my daughter needs to spend some holidays in puerto rico, she's all material at this point. *grrs*
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the big difference, God encourages cowardice, good Christians go to Heaven, inspiring Christians to behave for fear of their souls and the reward of paradise rather than to just be good people.
Fixed that one for you, Jordyn. :wink:
Dammit... now I can't stop laughing!
God speaks to me often
God speaks to my mother too.... she's a manic/depressive paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of persecution.
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i'm a pretty popular girl with guys clamoring for me on saturday nights and even drunk i can politely decline, and when i go to the bar to get another round i talk a bit to my most beautiful skater for Christ, (he's really a phenomenally good looking man)we have a shot, i flirt with my favorite bouncer, i go back to my table full of tattooed wonders and we continue dancing and having fun until the bar closes.
sunday through friday i'm the proverbial poor single mother raising a most quirky high functioning autist and working a dream job at our local movie store(good pay, flexible hours, free movies and my boss is one of the girls i go drinking with on saturday.)
how's someone hearing a god different from anyone who thinks they're a real werewolf or a vampire?
i'm hardly your mother...
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Ahhhh.... so many cruel things I could say about my mother that would be completely off-topic....
No... you're not my mother - I actually have something resembling respect for you sometimes, and I speak to you. Ironically... by the time I was sixteen I didn't want gifts anymore, either for my birthday or for xmas. It might be because I could see where my parents were suing it as a means to try and buy my affection or make up for never being there or paying me any mind; or it could just be that I understood the real meaning behind these days. My folks always said I was too smart for my own damned good. To this day I still don't feel comfortable receiving gifts of any kind, even charity, nor even money my girlfriend puts int ot he house to help pay for bills...
To me, both concepts described in the originating post are useless. One encourages you to do good or be punished for eternity in a lake of fire and other such nonsense; the other encourages you to be good or be punished by a lack of increase in material wealth for what will seem like an eternity. Either way, something precious dies a little more with each passing generation.
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To me, both concepts described in the originating post are useless. One encourages you to do good or be punished for eternity in a lake of fire and other such nonsense; the other encourages you to be good or be punished by a lack of increase in material wealth for what will seem like an eternity. Either way, something precious dies a little more with each passing generation.
i tend to agree the heaven and hell concepts are borderline nonsense to, there's no clear biblical or Judaic description of heaven or hell...and yeah, i feel sorry for what our youth have to deal with today, ideally it'll make them stronger and not more hopeless.
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am i a coward?
No, but I couldn't resist saying it because it's so damn true most of the time.
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am i a coward?
No, but I couldn't resist saying it because it's so damn true most of the time.
in some cases even i agree.
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If nothing else, both God and Santa might encourage nasty, sociopathic individuals, be they children or adults, from going out of their way to terrorise and hurt others. If that schoolyard bully is convinced that Santa won't give him anything if he continues to sit on his little classmates, he just might refrain from acting on his sadistic tendencies.
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Hmm....... where do the people who do good because it pleases god first and themselves second, stand in this theoretical discussion?
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Hmm....... where do the people who do good because it pleases god first and themselves second, stand in this theoretical discussion?
As nonexistant. Despite the protests of religious idiots everywhere, humanity IS selfish through and through, and altruism only serves as an extension of the survival instinct that teaches us to be kind to people so they'll watch our backs.
So...there are NO people who do good to please god. People do it to save their own asses because they have a need for a constant nanny watching over them and making them behave. Pathetic, really.
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What better way of convincing an essentially selfish and vicious species to behave in a ''righteous'' manner than to scare the living daylights out of them through the artifice of a make-belief bogey man? Even if he's accomplished nothing else, God might have prevented humans from copying the example of our savage relation, the chimp, and engaging in fatricidal, intercinine warfare.
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You say that like it's a good thing...
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Surely order inspired by society's terror of a wrathul deity, is better than having none at all?
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Take a look at the order it instilled, Blow_Fly. I'm not talking about the present day, where people merely pay lip service to some imagined deity. I mean back when everyone was a religious teetotaler.
No, aside from certain philanthropic causes, I see no use for religion of any kind. We're animals ourselves, and the denial of our bestial ways has severely weakened us as a species. If we are to survive, we must return to our primitive behavior. That is not to say that Science and medicine should go by the wayside, but some balance must be struck if we are to both survive and evolve to the next level.
Also, who says the animal kingdom is disordered? It has perfect order. Man's society is destructive to a fault. Animals only kill for a need. Man kills on a whim. I'd say they have a one-up on us there. We've evolved in a lopsided manner. We're too good at killing and destruction. It's high time we reigned that aspect in and learned how to do such things only with cause.
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We're animals ourselves, and the denial of our bestial ways has severely weakened us as a species. If we are to survive, we must return to our primitive behavior. That is not to say that Science and medicine should go by the wayside, but some balance must be struck if we are to both survive and evolve to the next level
It's our very reliance on technology that prevents us from reverting back to our bestial ways. With a more comfortable existence made possible through the advancement and progress of concepts like science and medicine, humanity has come to perceive hitherto vital instincts as largely being obsolete and irrelevent. If we are to ever put into practice exactly what you suggested, some regression on the technolgical front will be inevitable.
Animals only kill for a need. Man kills on a whim. I'd say they have a one-up on us there. We've evolved in a lopsided manner. We're too good at killing and destruction. It's high time we reigned that aspect in and learned how to do such things only with cause.
Once again, it's safe to blame that on the fact that we have almost ridiculously easy access to the appropriate technology. Animals don't kill as recklessly as we do due to the fact that each and every confrontation that they engage in, places a heavy demand on their strength and vitality, thus leaving them vulnerable to the possibility of death.
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Lol....
:? what it would really happend if Kreepy kill Moloch???? :roll:
Ok, back to reality :-D
Yes my grandmother is extremely Christian, she say Iam a prostitute who give service to the devil....
So imagine what would she think of you 2... Lol :evil:
My family is christian too, but if they knew about me being a wolf spirit and the stuff that goes on this site, they would porbably try even harder to get me to go back to church. *ughh*
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Lol....
:? what it would really happend if Kreepy kill Moloch???? :roll:
Ok, back to reality :-D
Yes my grandmother is extremely Christian, she say Iam a prostitute who give service to the devil....
So imagine what would she think of you 2... Lol :evil:
Tell her the devil deals in lies and deceit, not in destruction and anger. Tell her that's man's domain. She probably wouldn't know 'bout other demons. So make it look like that by being true to yourself you actually keep the demon away.
Follow up with a monolouge about the relation about hate,fear and her words(rainbow= prostitute) . Ask her how she could say that about her own grand daughter. If she further rebukes you, tell her SHE's the demon possesed/whore/thingy. Old people can't handle high emotions cause of thier dedication to calm, order and speeds below 40 kmph.
Then ask her about what she's so afraid about. tell her that her fear of the devil makes her weak and further destroy her logic with your own.
As you do this make sure you do this in a melodramatic manner. Keep her emotions high and her thoughts confused. break her. Break her hard. Turn her beliefs into her hell on earth.
Note: i haven't done this to my grand mom since i keep my views to myself unless asked. and nobody ever asks me because most of the time my views are quite unhelpful. and silly :lol:
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i absolutism still believe that santa is real.