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Dead... And Not So Dead => The Dead and the Undead => Topic started by: confused_mystery on June 19, 2010, 10:14:15 AM

Title: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: confused_mystery on June 19, 2010, 10:14:15 AM
i don't know what i am but i know for sure that i'm NOT a normal person.
ok here it goes and hopefully some1 can help me figure out what i am..

1. i have predictions sometimes that helps or warns me/people i care about
2. i can see and feel spirits, demons, and angels or anything good like that
3. whatever i want to come to me i just have to think about it  ex. certain spirits
4. any evil or if i want something bad to happen to a certain person it happens
5. sometimes when i step into a church i feel dizzy and just don't feel like i should be there
6. sometimes when holy water touches my skin it burns or stings
7. i have 3 crosses on my right arm below my wrist; all 3 joined by the top. there dark brown freakles that i've had my whole life

so if anyone could help me out with what i am, tell me what u think, it would help so much, thank you :)
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: oldbill4823 on June 19, 2010, 03:48:30 PM
Human, and normal.
This is by no means an insult. Quite quite the opposite in fact.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: LeXtruX on June 20, 2010, 06:41:07 AM
Aside for the fact you have weird freckles you seem to be experiencing the need of being like that.
Because you have these freckles I think you think you're special, and that's why these things happen.
Everyone get's a prediction from time to time, and mostly they are from your mind playing certain scenario's on things you've gathered, wether they be consious or subconsious.
First of, if you would be some kind of special person, don't assume it's because of the freckles.
Seeing and feeling spirits, demons and angels isn't something that only non-humans can do. but you certainly have the potential of training your spiritual self.
no3 I would say is your imagination because things don't work that way, with free will and all...
The church, there are explinations for that, some places just have that effect on people, but it's nothing supernatural.
Holy water isn't always as pure as people say it is, the pools or cups or whatever they put the water in to make holy water can be contaminated with metallic particles causing the stings and burns.

Now, let me explain why I'm saying it like this: you might be something special, but we get loads of wannabees here, people that want to be something supernatural and thus their mind makes it seem like they are.
I want to go over a few things that made me say these things:
first of: you use sometimes quite often, for the predictions this is normal, noone has them all the time, but most predictions are either things of fear that turn out to be true, or that you know that will happen in your subconsious and that shows it in a 'vision' or dream or just in feeling.
But as for the holy water and churches: if you were a demon of such sort and we would assume that they can't touch holy water of enter churches, it wouldn't be sometimes, but always.

the part of any evil or if I want something... that can be explained that you might have a demon that is playing with you, trying to make it look like you're the one doing that, while it's him, graduatly making him able to possess you. (I'm not saying this is the case, but it could be)
It's not like in harry potter that you just want it to be, so it happens, but you have no idea what you did.
if it were you, you would feel yourself doing it and you will know it was you because you remember what you did, though, if you're not trained in your powers it would be possible you're not able to redo the same thing.
The seeing and feeling spirits can be done by normal humans too, but it can also be your mind playing tricks on you.

and about the crosses: if they aren't tattooed, but there all you're life: don't get meaning out of it, people aren't marked like that^^ the cross is a symbol given to christianity because Jesus was crusified, it's a symbol showing the vulnerability of humans, it's not the sign of a divine. the crucification was a torture method back then... so if 'god' were to mark someone, it won't be by using crosses...

if you do think you are more, give us some more details about the things you've said, so we can have a better look at it, like bill said: you're human and normal, and this is a good thing too, you're definately not an abomination^^
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: matthew321 on June 20, 2010, 04:45:17 PM
Human, and normal.
This is by no means an insult. Quite quite the opposite in fact.

Human and normal sounds pretty good to me. Much less complicated and stressful. But of course anyone who wants to be human is not human and any one who does not want to be human is. Seems as though it is an irony the universe made for some sort of abstract balance.

I have read your claims and nothing you said is something only non humans are capable of. I know non humans who cannot see spirits and I know humans who can. There is no set law for this stuff.

There is nothing all that weird about anything you said. Even the seeing spirits is not that odd. The reason it seems odd is the entertainment industry portraying it that way. They are manipulating you really to not want to be human. There is a topic on this and I am believing it more and more.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: confused_mystery on June 20, 2010, 05:30:31 PM
well i'll give more details to anyone that contacts me through email- as you'll see in my profile which is bursting_insanity6@yahoo.com.

and i'm not a wanna be that got the influence from hollywood.
and i know of course that the mind plays tricks and that it could be imagination but why would a little girl imagine demons harming her, leaving scratch marks and bruises all over her body and playing with her emotions ?
or objects to move around and a couple times being aimed at me when there was nobody around?

and the predictions well they would come up out of nowhere. i'll give 2 examples

1. when i was about 11 or 12 i was outside playing basketball and it was nice and sunny..and then i have a feeling that something bigger than the ball would hit me.. a couple minutes later the sky was grey and a lightning bolt hit the tree close to me and one of the huge thick branches fell where i was sitting, lucky if i didn't move i would've been crushed

2. i was on the fone with one of my exes and we were laughing then i had a feeling something bad was gonna happen to him and i told him to watch out.. 3 days later he was shot in the chest 3 times and the ambulance that took him to the hospitol flipped over i think 3 times

predictions like that would happen all the time not once in a while

and with the demon controlling me and possessing me, i KNOW thats not true because at the times that i'd desire bad things to happen to a person then  it would happen, a demon wouldn't be around me because i wouldn't feel or see any around.

and plus my dad took me to his friend thats a true psychic, and she sensed that i was supernatural when my dad talked to her about me. but thankfully she helped me control myself for awhile.








Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: matthew321 on June 21, 2010, 05:37:58 AM
You are more in tune with your gut feelings then. Everyone has these, they are normal. Some people are more numb to theirs or even misunderstand them but everyone has them. These are gut feelings because you feel SOMETHING is going to happen. You do not know what but you do know whether or not it is good or bad. You then take action based on your feeling.

This is completely normal and is something to be proud of actually. It will protect you if you listen to it. You can try to train it as well and strengthen this skill. That is up to you.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: oldbill4823 on June 21, 2010, 09:36:06 AM
I would put money on the fact that you are human and normal.
All the things you write about are actually quite normal. Ok not many people talk about this, but trust me, it is normal.

Whats more you are an ok person. You are ok.  I really want you to understand this part.
You are unique and special and yet this is still normal. You are absolutley normal yet full of strange abilities and talents.

Thats the paradox of being human. It is THE most unboring thing to be in all of existance. Why else do so many demons werecreatures and other strange things all try to be human?

Life as a normal human is pretty f@@king amazing actually. Its not always easy but it really is the sweetest and most magical thing to be.
People have forgotton our magic side, but is is always there. You are just closer to it than most people.

That is why a lot of us hang out in forums like this. Because it is a chance to meet and talk, share experiences, and generally help each other understand some of the stranger things about what being human encompasses.

The more i see and experience the more i understand what a complete privilige this is, and what a complete mystery we are experiencing.
So welcome to the club, human.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: confused_mystery on June 21, 2010, 10:56:41 AM
hmm thanks to all, although i don't feel that way. soo i'm like a super human ?? well it still doesn't explain why some pshycics, dark magic spell casters, and my half demon ex all have told me that i am supernatural but here i'm told that i'm not?? thank you for everyone helping me.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: LeXtruX on June 21, 2010, 11:01:42 AM
nope, you're a human, humans have magic too, you just have a more natural affinity to magic than most other people, this does not make you a superhuman, just a fast learner.
there is no 'superhuman', but like bill said: most humans don't know what powers they possess, but everybody can be able to do those things, though most would need to train it, whereas you're a natural talent.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: oldbill4823 on June 21, 2010, 11:32:16 AM
I completely agree with Lex here.

Growing up is pretty tough. Throw in some strange abilities and wierd experiences and growing up is even tougher. It is often confusing and difficult. 

At the age you are at your identity goes through some massive changes. It is actually very flexible. This means you can take on the most amazing ideas and learn the most incredible things. It also means you are open to all sorts of influences, some of them good some of them pretty unhealthy. Identity is fragile at this point and it easily gets bent out of shape. Its very much like a young plant that is still green and hasnt grown any hard wood yet.
 
Identity is a vitally important thing that will affect so much of your future.  I am actually quite willing to write a long dissertation on the stages of individuation of human identity and ego if you want. I have been studying this stuff for over 30 years now.

If your school had classes on occult and psychic development and wierd sh@t that happens everyday, it would be someone like me taking the class.
Learn to be selective regarding which ideas you take to heart about your identity. Ideas concerning your identity are more powerful than you realise just now. In fact this would be one of the first lessons i gave. A complete magical practical. You would trip your t@ts off!

You would also learn some very valuable psychic self defence without even realising it. Hopefully you already have.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: LeXtruX on June 21, 2010, 12:16:25 PM
thx for agreeing
and I have to say the same about you.
Though I'm still at novice level, I'm way ahead of most novices, all thanks to this forum and it's users, like you, Muerte, etc etc. I've discovered more of who I am and what I am and I'm still learning, I also learned that wanting to be more than just a human is something every human has at some part of his/hers life. I also learned that you can only surpass being human by your deeds, because humans are powerfull yet fragile beings.

Also, I've never heard of normal highschools and such teaching about the occult though, but I wouldn't mind undergoing some of your lessons bill. they seem worthwhile^^
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: confused_mystery on June 21, 2010, 03:26:17 PM
ah ok sooo i'm normal but just that the powers that the normal human powers that i have are just going crazy ??
i get that i'm normal just not really about the human ability and all that. in my opinion, i think that we humans don't posses anything, we're nothing special, well at least i don't see it.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: matthew321 on June 21, 2010, 07:00:42 PM
Humans are special in their own way. Their feelings are much stronger in a human body then as a human spirit. The bodies amplify the emotions. That means you can be twice as happy as human and the spirit would only be capable of a fraction of that happiness. Same goes for any emotions, but the point is that human emotions are stronger (perhaps strongest). Being human opens up a probability of being happy and this happiness will be amplified by the fact you are human.
 
Being normal and useless sounds amazing to me. The only thing stopping you from enjoying that is outside influence. Such as movies, books, stories, etc.

Your "powers" are all based on how you define them. They can be "powers", "skills", "abilities", "talents", and other terms I am unable to draw on. How you define them also effects your overall disposition on them. Powers sounds like magick while skills sounds more technical.

Also Bill I would also attend your classes.
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: rave phillaphia on June 21, 2010, 07:19:36 PM
ah so there are two of the same post going on lol.

well if you would like to know the truth you have similar traits to what I have. It is above normal but still normal. Just think of it as that your more 'in tune' with nature and the other realm.

I still think the church holy water buring is weird so I still go with my original idea of a parasitic entity attached to you, which is easy to remove. I have already wrote on the other post so here is goes again: Do you feel drained at random times?
Title: Re: where do i belong in this supernatural world ??
Post by: RunningElk on June 30, 2010, 01:21:59 PM
heres what I've been taught about humans and our plane of existence everything is equal in their own special way (mathew) and i was told from a young age that everyone has magic (i like to call charaka i don't know why) inside us everyone can use magic infact from day to day people use magic and don't even know like my half sister Ella who after the movies we went to the money taking claw she lost and on our way back to the car we see a big fluffy teddy bear in the middle of the zebra crossing she picked it up and we went back to the car, this happens on a regular basis but with great power comes great responsibility and that is why magic in our culture has died down to videogames and movies because simply responsibility discipline and anything based on our ancestors way of life has degraded into our "western way of life" i think is tragic

plus mystery being a human being a pleb to existence is a good thing but something we all don't want to be i a had a screwed childhood from appearances of my later teachers and compions to just being bullied i moved to the coast with my mum and I'm a normal kid who likes to party play and listen to music about death read philosophy (sophies world greatest book) and being fascinated by our world and every detail from Andy Warhol to things beyond our knowledge