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The Darker Side => Demons, Demonology and The Devil => Topic started by: SKGS on August 10, 2010, 05:34:57 PM

Title: Book of Noah?
Post by: SKGS on August 10, 2010, 05:34:57 PM
In the Book of Jubilee chapter 10:10-14 there is a reference to a book that Noah gave to his son Shem.
I have tried to look for this particular book, what happened to it, is it mentioned any place else?
Does anybody have any info on this?
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: Tronth on August 11, 2010, 06:43:45 AM
Dont quote me on this but i believe the book was a geneology. im not sure you where would find it though
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: Tronth on August 11, 2010, 08:23:42 AM
It may have also been the book of Enoch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch)
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: Muerte on August 11, 2010, 05:19:29 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Noah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Noah)

  That was easy.
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: SKGS on August 12, 2010, 09:52:27 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Noah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Noah)

  That was easy.

Thanks! I had to laugh when I read your reply. Sometimes the most obvious escapes me :doh:
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: SKGS on August 14, 2010, 06:10:09 PM
Read it.
It seems that the book that was given to Shem by Noah about the remedies for evil spirits is lost forever, if it really existed.
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: Muerte on August 17, 2010, 09:49:56 AM
Read it.
It seems that the book that was given to Shem by Noah about the remedies for evil spirits is lost forever, if it really existed.


  If it existed it will only be lost until found by the proper hands.
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: SKGS on August 17, 2010, 10:59:14 PM
Maybe the evil spirits (demons) don't want it found. It would do them no good.
Just a thought.

I will dig around a little more, maybe something will pop up.
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: ViciouslyMe on September 08, 2010, 11:56:12 PM
I doubt theyd have much to worry about, not many would know how to use the knowledge from said book. However, I do think it a good idea to search. One can never be too sure.
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: rave phillaphia on September 09, 2010, 08:00:18 PM
ah the book of Raziel. It is also been said to actually be the 'Stone of All Knowledge" which it is traditionally suppose to have a similar color to sapphire.


http://emol.org/kabbalah/seferraziel/history.html (http://emol.org/kabbalah/seferraziel/history.html)

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=142&letter=R (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=142&letter=R)

that is according to Kabbalah Judaism. But in traditional Rabbinic Judaism they talk about the legend as well in the Midrashic texts.

There is an old forum somewhere on Monstrous that we discussed this in depth. Hope these links help.
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: Anaya on September 10, 2010, 04:52:48 AM
http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/enoch.pdf (http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/enoch.pdf)

This is the first thing I turned to... :/
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: SKGS on September 10, 2010, 06:00:16 PM
Thanks :-)

These links will keep me busy for a while and probably sidetracking me.
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: SKGS on September 11, 2010, 09:08:04 PM
The Book of Noah and the Book of Raziel seem to be two different books.
The Book of Noah was given to Noah after the flood for protection against the evil spirits that bothered his sons.
The Book of Raziel seems to be a lot older. It was given to him by Raziel before the flood to protect him.
Title: Re: Book of Noah?
Post by: rave phillaphia on September 12, 2010, 01:10:35 PM
eh sort of... traditionally Judaism links both of the books as the same one because in the Book of Raziel there are protection rites in it. The only book that is traditionally classified as a book given afterwards is the Book of Enoch, which Enoch's portion was given before and then Noah's portion added afterwards. But these stories did arise from the Greco period, but the Book of Raziel can be linked to the story of the forbidden name which also can be linked to in the Sumerian and Babylonian traditions as the (which translations don't still know how to translate the word described here) as a book or name that has all power. 


Some link the tablets of destiny to the book of Raziel, but some also link this tablet story to be the origin of the 10 commandments on tablets Moses story. But they also link the law code of Hummurabi to connect more with the tablets of Moses instead of the tablets of destiny.