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Apocalypse Soon => Religions, Cults & Sects => Topic started by: Sick_Angel13 on July 18, 2008, 12:11:18 PM

Title: Christianty is about...
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on July 18, 2008, 12:11:18 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Miln0rz/1195324208420.jpg)
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Raziel on July 18, 2008, 02:51:53 PM
bite me. No religious bashing kapesh? We already have enough of that from the skeptics and religious extremists.
Don't make me hurt you..... :x
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on July 18, 2008, 03:13:31 PM
Sheesh, sensitive aren't you? lol
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Raziel on July 18, 2008, 03:24:12 PM
It was alot smaller originally.. i was just playing with the size. ..........
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on July 18, 2008, 03:29:47 PM
Don't be (too) mad, can't you people take a joke? I was raised by folks who'd poke fun at these type of things...
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Moloch on July 21, 2008, 03:03:04 PM
Raziel, Christians and Muslims have persecuted people of every other faith, all through their individual histories. It's high time they endured some of the same. Also, historically speaking, this is tame.

Or, you're a little sensitive to it because it hits so close to home?
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Raziel on July 21, 2008, 06:36:49 PM
No. its more along the lines of "I will not condone the pointless bashing of religion when it serves no purpose."


We are not bible-freaks, we don't have to act like em.

I wasn't mad, i was just playing with the font size. seriously i'm trying to find a font for me. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: mini_monster on July 22, 2008, 12:00:29 PM
I dont really care if i appear sensitive, but you can have your beliefs and i can have mine, but its offensive to bash others beliefs.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Blackheartangel on July 22, 2008, 01:10:27 PM
I agree with mini-monster. And in all honesty, persecution comes from all religions and it is dealt with by all religions.  Everyone faces the same extremists from religions other than their own. Even though I haven't been killed and named a martyr, I've been screamed at in school several times by a so-called Pagan (She doesn't really know what she is though.), because I wouldn't agree that Hell didn't exist amonst other religious issues. I'm sad to say that religious tolerance is at an all time low in my opinion. I've had amazing conversations about religion with many people whom I greatly respect because of their maturity, but I won't take it if you refuse to let me believe and explain my beliefs while you tell me yours are the only ones right.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Moloch on July 22, 2008, 04:59:45 PM
I never said it was alright, or that I condone it. I only said that thye deserve some of what they've been historically dishing out to the rest of us. I was born and raised a Christian, and raised to believe that my particular church was "the only correct church", etc.  As a teen, I opened my eyes, and have kept them open ever since. I refuse to stand by and allow any of you to bash someone for acting on those same rights that entitle you to disagree. SA spoke her mind, encourage that, or soon you may not be able to do it without persecution yourselves.

As to the original post which started all of this, I found it very entertaining, and a very accurate description of what christianity is all about. If that doesn't set well with you, you are free to express your opinions as well. Just as I am free to ignore them, along with any and every opinion I come across, whether I agree with it or not.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on July 22, 2008, 06:45:45 PM
People, read my lips: This is just a joke, I understand you abhor such comments but it's just a little fun and with no intention to (seriously) offend you guys.
But I might like to add that Moloch's right about Christianity having to endure this, after every absurd thing they've done in the past they should think twice before pointing their fingers at me and rejecting me for being myself. My favorite ancestor was executed by the hands of the church due to him writing his book about his fantastic ideas/theories.

But I understand you don't have anything to do with it and I respect your opinion as much as you respect mines, no hard feelings.  :-*
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: mini_monster on July 23, 2008, 11:38:17 AM
Moloch, just because I have the same beliefs as some people doesn't mean we have the same thoughts. I don't agree with everything that's happened. Like people being persected in medevil times if they weren't a certain religon. Or in biblical days when woman would get stoned to death for doing one small thing out of order. I really don't think that was right. I don't bash other religons and I would hope that others would have the same respect. Where I live for some reason theres alot of religous bashes going on about other religons and it truly makes my blood boil. I know theres always going to be some kind or form of predjudice. I just feel I need to put my  opion in.

And Sick Angel sorry for being kinda up your butt about it. It is just a joke, and I realize that.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on July 23, 2008, 11:42:35 AM
No hard feelings, so feel free to joke about atheists as well, lol.  0:)
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Raziel on July 23, 2008, 06:03:16 PM
Like i said. bash religions somewhere else, i don't mind. but not here on monstrous. we accept everyone who wishes to be accepted.

........... speaking of Christians i wonder where ZRY went?
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Moloch on July 24, 2008, 10:47:22 AM
I have no intentions of bashing anyone for their religion, but if someone posts a joke and I find it funny - then I will laugh. And if someone else decides to get all sensitive about it and crawl up that poster's butt over it, then I will defend them.

This turned serious, Raziel, because you took offense at a joke. I have my beliefs, few as they are, and I have a thick skin. I have to have both for my own sanity. So you'll forgive me if I don't fall all over the idea of apology. I do appreciate you posting some facts in the other thread about how the bible and christianity got started. I know you're a lot more intelligent than you come off to people, mainly because you're bored with being the smartest person you know. But that doesn't give you the right to have no sense of humor. How did that saying go, about a man who cannot laugh at himself?
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on July 24, 2008, 11:05:52 AM
Lol! *jokingly* I appreciate it, but will you be so kind do me a favor and leave my butt out of this?  Use another term to describe my situation, my rear end never been mentioned in a conversation like this before, how awkward. *<:)  *<:) *<:)

Once again, I'm just laughing at myself. See? It doesn't hurt.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Raziel on July 27, 2008, 06:19:38 AM
My friend, i will not take religious bashing here because of the potential crap that might happen.

this is an open forum you know
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Moloch on July 27, 2008, 06:35:48 AM
Raz and SA are right, enough is enough. Let's all just agree to find the humor in this, and leave the animosity for other... 'members' who have brought their own with them into our midst.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: jordyn on July 28, 2008, 12:01:36 AM
I never said it was alright, or that I condone it. I only said that thye deserve some of what they've been historically dishing out to the rest of us. I was born and raised a Christian, and raised to believe that my particular church was "the only correct church", etc.  As a teen, I opened my eyes, and have kept them open ever since. I refuse to stand by and allow any of you to bash someone for acting on those same rights that entitle you to disagree. SA spoke her mind, encourage that, or soon you may not be able to do it without persecution yourselves.

As to the original post which started all of this, I found it very entertaining, and a very accurate description of what christianity is all about. If that doesn't set well with you, you are free to express your opinions as well. Just as I am free to ignore them, along with any and every opinion I come across, whether I agree with it or not.

i'm sure you take great joy that christians these days are persecuted, in ways and manners that you seem to view they deserve because some whacked kings and greedy men saw an opportunity hundreds of years ago to take advantage of poor, ignorants?

http://www.worthynews.com/christian/persecution-of-christians-growing-in-the-united-states/

http://www.christianpersecution.info/

break out your beer and celebrate!

these countries may be more to your liking...

http://sb.od.org/index.php?supp_page=wwl_top_ten

http://www.crosswalk.com/1372566/

is that enough revenge for you?

the picture demonstrated that the same ignorance that allowed those atrocities to happen hundreds of years ago is alive and well in our world today, some find it a joke, i found it rather a cliche attempt at shock value from a hateful and ignorant person; that's my opinion of the picture and it left me with more pity for the creator than offense at the image...but suggesting that modern day christians who are nothing like the medieval hierarchy that was birthed by rome, a country that cruelly persecuted christians themselves is insulting.  i'm one of those born again christians and realized how dangerously whacked occult pursuits are, choosing the humble life of a non whore, worshiping one Mighty God over all the demons, devils gods and spirits i engaged...and who offered me amazing opportunities to destroy those things blocking my way...but through Christ and ultimately His father i realized that's not the way we were intended to be as humans, our bodies and minds are above petty spirit games, deserving more respect for our flesh  and all it contains as a mortal temple holding our eternal spirit until it's ascended.

but i don't go about making jokes about pagan orgies in the moonlight to goat headed gods, killing babies to please their master with their wicked deeds and sexual debasings... i know not all the occult is like that but the statement is the same difference, comparing the faith a person developed in Jesus to a zombie horror movie, the joke is that the occult is often the inspiration for those horror movies.



Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: jordyn on July 28, 2008, 12:04:31 AM
...oh, and thank you raz, it's nice to see not all are so susceptible to hate that they actually take pleasure in mocking another person's faith.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: jordyn on July 28, 2008, 12:06:10 AM
Like i said. bash religions somewhere else, i don't mind. but not here on monstrous. we accept everyone who wishes to be accepted.

........... speaking of Christians i wonder where ZRY went?

with where the mentality of this board went?

...that's a pretty obvious question.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on July 28, 2008, 05:45:51 AM
Honestly, if I had know someone would be so seriously offended and sensitive for not taking it as a joke like I and Moloch did, I wouldn't have posted it.

Monstrous isn't all one Christian site, I thought is was free to speak our minds. What if I went to a topic dedicated to a certain thing and I kept trying to prove it was incorrect/wrong/? So does this mean I can jump to any topic discussing a religion and accuse of bashing Atheism, right? Wrong.

Raz - You might not be as thick-skinned as people some like me, when suffering in the hands of a religion(s), for they have failed to convert me to it because I  have a different opinion. You may not have brought hell to anyone because their beliefs, though, so I am sorry.

 
 
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: blow_fly on July 28, 2008, 06:00:36 AM
I have observed that the Abrahamic religions generally tend to be greeted with suspicion in parts of the world where other religious beliefs are dominant, especially in many regions in Asia where the overwhelming majority of people tend to be adherants of other religions that are perceived to be less ''rigid ''than Christianity, Judaisam and Islam. Now, being an agnostic myself, I personally have no strong opinions on the subject, but the idea of a religion that proclaims itself to be the only path to true spiritual salvation ,while promising eternal damnation for unbelievers, is something that many find rather unplatable and perhaps even potentially dangerous to the existence of their own faith.  I don't really share that opinion myself, but it certainly explains the anti Christian hostility you find in some places.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Raziel on July 28, 2008, 11:43:08 AM
SA .Ok. for the last time, i did not mean to make the font so damm big, secondly while i do not view jesus as my lord and savior,(due to a difference in opinion a long time ago). he is still a friend, so no bad mouthing him ok?

Second of all, while we are not a "Christian" site. we are a sight that respects other people's religions due to the fact that these things influence the development of those under them, and therefore maybe a sensitive spot for many people. Ergo we must respect them. (note: as a mods we do not start these things)

Third, hell is a wonderful place to cure colds.


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Jordyn, again i thank you for your timely assist. I wonder why i didn't think of those examples. all that school work and it didn't stick. haha
Seriously, where did zak go? i need more back up!



 
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Moloch on July 28, 2008, 06:49:33 PM
Jordyn, it is precisely because of the oversensitivity of some of the Christian members that a new rule had to be created to reign them in. You're completely in a foment over someone posting a joke that you didn't like. How do you think those of us who are tired of being preached at feel? I never once asked nor demanded that you shut your trap about your christ or your god. I fully recognize your right to free speech. However, I do ask that you respect my rights as well. If I decide to trash someone, their religion, or their opinion on any topic; do kindly butt out before you let your ignorance show again.
Title: Re: Christianty is about...
Post by: Raziel on July 28, 2008, 06:53:19 PM
Oh and you trashing the religion of others is fine and dandy? i think not! ........... this topic has been nothing but trouble. i'm gonna lock it..

ok people no more religious bashing ok? its not our fault that most Christians that seek the dark do it because they think its evil. :-P

Blame Hollywood and built in instinct.