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paranormal groups
« on: February 08, 2011, 12:01:53 pm »
Any one else here a member of one? My first investigations started way back when ....when they just called it tresspassing. lol

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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 12:49:03 pm »
Haha, nice work.
I'm not part of a group, but I've done the same before.  :roll: needless to say, I wouldn't mind doing what I've done with others. I just prefer not to work with a whole group.


edit: whoa hey, this was my 100th post.
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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2011, 03:23:54 pm »
During the daytime, we go to Civil War parks, old hotels, and old buildings( with permission). We still come across cold spots, unexplained noises and solid EVPS.

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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 08:49:08 am »
Yeah, Ive learned that its alot easier to ask for permition, alot safer too. Ive been shot at more than once for being somewhere I shouldnt have. Anyone have any advice for people wanting to join a group? Ill give some of my own later on.

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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 10:05:38 am »
Well this may be obvious but new people need to hear this.

Do not do what you see on t.v. This is a very fundamental lesson and still holds.

The ghost hunters on t.v. are jokes. Following their example will only ruin your fun and perhaps cause you harm.
These people talk to spirits in a manner that I perceive as being an ass. You don't talk to live humans this way so why is it okay to talk to dead ones like that?

Think of how you would want to be approached if you were dead by a live person.

But throw all the crap on t.v. out the window and start fresh. They need ratings, you want success. So don't compromise dammit!
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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 10:29:53 am »
I will agree that some of the groups on tv are approching things the wrong way, maybe even most, but there are one or two that set fairly good examples. But the advice is to let people know how to find a local group and join it. Advice for ghost hunters is in '' ghost hunting 101''  Im not being a prick or anything, just saying.

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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 10:33:52 am »
Well this may be obvious but new people need to hear this.

Do not do what you see on t.v. This is a very fundamental lesson and still holds.

The ghost hunters on t.v. are jokes. Following their example will only ruin your fun and perhaps cause you harm.
These people talk to spirits in a manner that I perceive as being an ass. You don't talk to live humans this way so why is it okay to talk to dead ones like that?

Think of how you would want to be approached if you were dead by a live person.

But throw all the crap on t.v. out the window and start fresh. They need ratings, you want success. So don't compromise dammit!

I completely agree. I find that, half the time, ghosts, spirits, etc. are treated as idiots in the physical world would be treated on television. Talked to as if they're idiots. Investigated as if they're some sort of pansy study. I don't know, I wouldn't feel very much respected at all as a human being if I was talked to or treated the way they are on television, so in any instances in which I've done this kind of work, I've made sure to talk to them normally, and respectfully.

That's just me, though. I've met a few who have been successful while acting in ways I would not recommend or approve of, but hell, to each their own.
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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 10:54:58 am »
@MATTHEW321 & AWBrielle
Ghost Hunters has some credibility to it, so don't throw it all out! Ghost Adventures? Yeah, that stuff is trash. I recreated everything almost that that show has put forward and I'm not impressed. Ghost Hunters though, I have been to some of the same places and got similar evidence. Don't dis it to the public; just give caution that some may be staged and some may be real. Not everything on TV is fake--a lot is, don't get me wrong--so be kind enough to go as far as extra research before your try to go further into something.

@the actual topic of this thread
I lead a group of hunters in my local area called Experimental Paranormal Investigation Crew (E.P.I.C.) and we have investigated one house where a murder had supposedly taken place in and a couple of graveyards that had no dawn or dusk signs posted. Our group uses both technology and metaphysical technique but use only the technological evidence when making claims. We have a couple of mist pictures and orb pictures (that I have come to disregard do to too many possibilities) and one odd video where a red light showed up that wasn't from any of our cameras or equipment nor could we find an outside source. We ran out of places to investigate without risking trouble... well, we risked trouble before but they really have been cracking down on security were we are located.
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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 01:12:54 pm »
Thank You Anayu, my thoughts exactlly on the groups on tv. " I thought I was going to have to get out the ruber hose for a minute" lol . Oh these newbies are great aint they! Im so farkin thrilled I cant hardly stand it!!  but seriously, some of them are starting to grow on me a little.... kinda like a fungus...or not.

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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 02:59:02 pm »
@MATTHEW321 & AWBrielle
Ghost Hunters has some credibility to it, so don't throw it all out! Ghost Adventures? Yeah, that stuff is trash. I recreated everything almost that that show has put forward and I'm not impressed. Ghost Hunters though, I have been to some of the same places and got similar evidence. Don't dis it to the public; just give caution that some may be staged and some may be real. Not everything on TV is fake--a lot is, don't get me wrong--so be kind enough to go as far as extra research before your try to go further into something.

I haven't watched Ghost Hunters, so I can't talk too much about that, but point taken ;)

@Ravinclaw, I'd be a little respectful. I think you need to know a little bit about a person's experiences and their work, both offline, and on this website, before labeling them a newbie. Had I below 70 posts, then yes, I would agree. I'm sure that many on these boards will agree that I am in no way a "newbie;" you, on the other hand, seem to like stirring trouble and should quit it posthaste. Have a little respect; I'm not afraid of your pointless criticisms whatsoever.
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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 10:23:08 pm »
Oh I like it when my posts are so infrequent that I am mistaken for a newbie. But I don't believe that was the infliction here, I believe the term was geared towards people who are new to ghost hunting, not to people on monstrous.

AWBrielle thank you for allowing me to make my statements more correct.

Well once in a while t.v. can produce something that is realistic. The ghost hunters t.v. show is the most realistic one I have seen. I used to watch it when it first came out.
These people go into areas and are skeptics of any paranormal activity. They try to find all sorts of reasons that would cause the paranormal activity reported in an area.
They take a scientific approach and use constructive skepticism. Now they are not perfect but they employ logic and rule out physical causes before they go to spiritual causes.

So I should not say or make it sound like all t.v. shows based on paranormal investigation are falsified. However there is still the fact that they are looking for ratings, that must also be taken into consideration.

AWBrielle is right, the ghost hunters at least don't do anything I find rude or falsified.



I suppose all new people should watch a few paranormal investigation programs and decide for themselves how much better one is over the other. All I can offer is my opinion.

To be honest I have never gone ghost hunting, but on the scholarly level I am well informed of ghosts.

When I am stating my opinion on techniques it comes from how I would want to be treated and my overall opinion of how they are gathering evidence in that scenario.





This edit here is after AWBrielle's message: I credited the wrong person because I looked at the first name that started with A. I was up a little late, so Anaya I am sorry about that.

I must also now state I have edited this message three times while trying to type the same sentence. That may give some insight on what fatigue can do to me and my literacy.
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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 11:21:23 pm »
Oh I like it when my posts are so infrequent that I am mistaken for a newbie. But I don't believe that was the infliction here, I believe the term was geared towards people who are new to ghost hunting, not to people on monstrous.

AWBrielle thank you for allowing me to make my statements more correct.

Well once in a while t.v. can produce something that is realistic. The ghost hunters t.v. show is the most realistic one I have seen. I used to watch it when it first came out.
These people go into areas and are skeptics of any paranormal activity. They try to find all sorts of reasons that would cause the paranormal activity reported in an area.
They take a scientific approach and use constructive skepticism. Now they are not perfect but they employ logic and rule out physical causes before they go to spiritual causes.

So I should not say or make it sound like all t.v. shows based on paranormal investigation are falsified. However there is still the fact that they are looking for ratings, that must also be taken into consideration.

AWBrielle is right, the ghost hunters at least don't do anything I find rude or falsified.

I suppose all new people should watch a few paranormal investigation programs and decide for themselves how much better one is over the other. All I can offer is my opinion.

To be honest I have never gone ghost hunting, but on the scholarly level I am well informed of ghosts.

When I am stating my opinion on techniques it comes from how I would want to be treated and my overall opinion of how they are gathering evidence in that scenario.

:P Actually we have Anaya to thank for that, but eh. I suppose people who enjoy posting less frequently, such as ourselves, are apparently newbies.
Anyhow, I like how you've phrased this all - it's clear-cut and well-phrased for those who are new to ghost hunting and want to do so :)
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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 11:04:25 am »
AWBrielle, you say I should respect your opion on a subject you clearly know nothing about? You said yourself youve never investigated a haunting. And I guess I should also respect your opion about a show you dont watch? Maybe you should show some respect for people who actually know what their talking about. And if you dont like being called a newbie, stop acting like one. You are not the first to take my brand of humor the wrong way, that fungus remark was nothing more than a joke. I take it that you dont like much. Well I dont give a damn. Know this, ravinclaw is not just a character on a fourum. I dont act a damned bit different in person than I do here, I dont sugar coat things, and I dont respect amatures who play at being experts. If you dont know much on a subject, no problem but dont try to lecture me on things you dont understand.

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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 01:33:22 pm »
AWBrielle, you say I should respect your opion on a subject you clearly know nothing about? You said yourself youve never investigated a haunting. And I guess I should also respect your opion about a show you dont watch? Maybe you should show some respect for people who actually know what their talking about. And if you dont like being called a newbie, stop acting like one. You are not the first to take my brand of humor the wrong way, that fungus remark was nothing more than a joke. I take it that you dont like much. Well I dont give a damn. Know this, ravinclaw is not just a character on a fourum. I dont act a damned bit different in person than I do here, I dont sugar coat things, and I dont respect amatures who play at being experts. If you dont know much on a subject, no problem but dont try to lecture me on things you dont understand.

You misread me; I said I have never been a part of an investigation group as an official member. On the other hand, yes, I have investigated a haunting with the assistance of two individuals. I wasn't at all responding to your fungus joke, I was merely stating that it's a moderate annoyance to deal with those who love nothing but arguments when we ought to be discussing the topic at hand. Matthew and I both did respond with a "point taken" here, and I did say, when talking about television shows, that "half the time ghosts, spirits, etc. are treated as idiots...in television." So, while I can understand your argument, please actually go through and read each and every word someone says before calling them out. It saves time, which is always precious.

Maybe you should spend more time focusing on how to be more productive as opposed to looking for fights at every opportunity you get. Please, calm the f*ck down.

Also, I really think we should get back to the topic at hand.

:focus: > I live on the west coast (US), and a couple of investigation groups that I've heard of by word of mouth (I've been told they're very good, however, I haven't worked with them, so I can't speak for them from firsthand experience) are Ghost Study and Shasta Supernatural Investigators. I don't live in California, but I've been there plenty of times - anyone have experiences with them, by any chance?

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Re: paranormal groups
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2011, 04:38:12 pm »
I live on the east coast so nope, I've never heard of them. I want to meet some other groups that are on the East Coast though :o


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