[Kadesh]

 Now... I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I believe we could branch off a tiny bit without straying too far from the topic.... What about the devil within ourselves?? Do you think that devil is evil just because it suggests you do 'bad' things?

[Angelus]

No. That means your evil. lol. Just kidding. The devil in us telling us to do bad thing is thought to be the devil himself or one of his demons trying to make you sin so you go to hell and he gets your soul. So yes. He is evil too.

[Kadesh]

 But that devil is actually inside you... a part of you. So would you say that it would make you evil as well? Or is "the devil inside you" just an excuse to do the things you really want to do. Like a serial killer blaming things on Satan.

[Angelus]

People are neither good or evil at first. We have the ability to be both. The path you choose decides that. If you act evil then thats what you become. You chose that path. No one forced it on you.

[Kadesh]

 I agree 100%. But just because you've chosen one path.. doesn't mean you can't change your mind....  Neither would it mean that you can't be a bit of both at the same time. And sometimes what one perceives as evil, isn't necessarily so.

[Angelus]

True. You can cross between the two sides and there is always a grey area.

[Kadesh]

 But how long can you cross between the two sides and play in that gray area? How long until you, yourself become gray...

[Angelus]

Is that a bad thing. Being neutral? Taking the best of both sides at your convenience. Doesnt matter whats good or evil but that the job gets done or the fun is had?

[Kadesh]

 No, the gray you speak of wouldn't be bad at all. But I was meaning gray as in you just stop caring which way you do things.

[Strife]

i think its natural human instinct, to either be good or evil so we dont need to blame the devil for anything bad we do 

[Grendelion]

I guess a lot of this is subject to ones opinion.  The gray area is at its essence pure freedom.  To stray from the "rules" set down by the archetypes associated with the duality of man, and woman, and let raw unbiased instinct guide your actions.

Bear in mind however, that though we are free to break these "rules", we are all still subject to that one universal law of physics, one that plays both sides of the good and evil coin.  Every choice, be it harmless or historic, has a consequence.  The devil is a face a society gives to those who act against these common rules, designed to scare an individual into not straying from the established norm.  The Salem Witch trials being a perfect example of this style of "civilized persecution."  Thankfully we live in an age that's not quite as restrained.

The wrath of God is subject to ones belief.  The wrath of man however is something that is very real.

[ravinclaw]

very well said Grendelion.

I also agree with Strife, I think our own carnal instincts makes us do "bad" things, not the devil, its the animal that lives in all of us, our dark side is not nececarily dark, only privitave.

as far a serial killers go, I dont know what makes them do what they do, but everything is motive, whether it be money or pleasure, sickness is motive.....where did I hear that before?

but anyway, I like that grey area, and for now thats where I will stay.

[Strife]

honestly  i think i lean more toward good than evil, but nobody is "completly" good no matter how much we want to believ.....

[Muerte]

honestly  i think i lean more toward good than evil, but nobody is "completly" good no matter how much we want to believ.....

  Nor is anyone completely evil, most serial killers have families who know nothing about their darker sides, and those serial killers love their families just as much as anyothers would.  Those outside the family however better beware  .

[Strife]

haha my thoughts exactly