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Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« on: February 23, 2010, 07:34:42 pm »
I was going through some old photos of past ghost-hunts, and I came across some pics where one of our investigators got scratched up pretty bad across her back.  We noted the scratches for what they were, but didn't analyze them very closely at the time.  When I looked at the picture again though, I noticed that the arrangement of the scratches was a familiar-looking symbol that I can't quite put my finger on.



I know this symbol has some occult reference but, like I said, I just can't seem to put my finger on it.  Does anyone know where this symbol originates?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2010, 08:22:35 pm »
It kind of looks like the Freemasons' symbol, but that's probably not what you're looking for, right? :|
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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2010, 08:36:45 pm »
yeah... that's the only thing i can think of. freemasons.
be wary of what you think a symbol means. i had a demon scratch a pentagram into a person's leg and then did something to it to make it so that it burned when i got close (i tested it with her eyes closed and head turned. it genuinely burned). a pentagram is not inherently an evil symbol. it is believed that it is the seal of solomon. the demon wanted me to think it was evil so that i would abandon my delving into wiccan teachings.

this is something to consider when these things arise.

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 09:10:49 am »
Think you've got your stars mixed up, Carden.
The pentagram is five-pointed - as the name says. The Star of Solomon is six-pointed, a hexagram. And the Seal of Solomon consists of a little more than just a star.

that's what i would think. but there are three different ideas floating around out there. king richard the lionhearted had a pent on his shield during the crusades because of this.
in my experience, the pentagram works better than the hexagram. i have yet to use the third because it was too complicated to draw in the time i needed.


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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2010, 03:24:52 pm »
well results are results. a pentagram worked in the same way that is described in the Testament of Solomon as the effects of the seal. all i had to do was draw it on a piece of paper, trace the lines with holy water and put it in physical contact with the possessed and i had my own pet demon for a day.

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 08:39:14 pm »
I had thought of the Freemasons as well -- as a matter of fact that was what I'd thought of right-off-the-bat.  Something about it didn't quite jive, though -- the area had nothing (that we knew of) to do with the Freemasons, or even the Teutonic Brotherhood.  The Compass-and-Square just didn't fit the motif.  I did some further digging, especially into the Seals of Solomon, and I found some other surprising stuff:

1) Alchemical symbol for Arsenic -- not quite spot-on, but close.  Maybe unfinished?
2) Voodoo Vevres -- many Vevres incorporate this design into their larger patterns, but one particular Lwa -- Marassa Jumeaux: Lwa of Twins and Duality -- had this as one of her most basic sigils.
3) The Ars Goetica -- had a seal; the 1st Pentacle of Jupiter -- with this sigil in the upper left area: the same corresponding area on the victims back.  This particular seal relates,  unsurprisingly, to Possession.

Thanks for everyone's help, by the way -- I found most of this stuff after getting onto tracking down the Seals of Solomon.  If any of you come up with anything more, don't hesitate to post!

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 11:15:37 am »
When I look at it, I can only see how much looks just like the start of an unfinished, unicursal hexagram.


The Unicursal Hexagram.

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicursal_hexagram
English author and occultist Aleister Crowley's adaptation of the unicursal hexagram placed a five-petaled rose (symbolizing the Divine), in the center, the symbol as a whole making eleven (five petals of the rose plus six points of the hexagram), thought by some as the number of divine union.[citation needed] It is used in the Greek and Hindu mythologies as a symbol of dedication to the divine rulers.
Wikipedia source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicursal_hexagram

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 03:27:03 pm »
This is the closest I could find. Its the freemason square and compass.
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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 05:29:26 pm »
I haven't seen a unicursal hexagram in a long time... I like the clover in the middle or perhaps a flower (no one is ever sure). That is what I believe the free masons derived a few of their symbols from and with that ideology I can tie multiple theories together. It is a curse that was placed by someone or something with masonic ties. The masons derived their symbols from this particular one.

So I do agree that the mark resembles the mason's symbols more. But their symbols are derived from other symbols that are derived from yet other symbols. It is an ever going cycle of no origin.

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2010, 07:56:45 am »
Me and my girlfriend looked it up in one of my books -right after my reply had been posted.
Indeed, the sign has more similarities with the freemason symbol than the unicursal hexagram.
Still, since it looks like something of a more simple nature in it's design, in combination with the angular structure, it almost looks like a rune, something you's carve in stone or something of that nature.
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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 08:44:02 pm »
I was going through some old photos of past ghost-hunts, and I came across some pics where one of our investigators got scratched up pretty bad across her back.  We noted the scratches for what they were, but didn't analyze them very closely at the time.  When I looked at the picture again though, I noticed that the arrangement of the scratches was a familiar-looking symbol that I can't quite put my finger on.



I know this symbol has some occult reference but, like I said, I just can't seem to put my finger on it.  Does anyone know where this symbol originates?

Thanks in advance

~ SW
I understand the topic may be old but feel if the OP is still connected to it he will receive this :

The sigil looks to be a partial of Satan's sigil (imo)



http://theorderofthedragon.com/profile/themanwhofearnothing

almost a perfect match:






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He is the Sumerian God EA, also known as ENKI which means "Lord of the Earth." He is also known as Melek Ta'us.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2011, 08:52:23 pm by Cassiel »
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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 05:42:58 am »
Why do some people always tend to drag Satan in everything? Looks more like a Saturn formula

or crowleys half finished unicursal hexagram

« Last Edit: February 13, 2011, 05:48:52 am by Nina »

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2011, 08:23:11 am »
Why do some people always tend to drag Satan in everything? Looks more like a Saturn formula

or crowleys half finished unicursal hexagram


Because the symbol matches Satan, and if you knew anything of Satan you would realize that by bringing Saturn into the equation you have also brought Satan into the discussion, I would suggest a search with ancient mythology and maybe a few college courses to help, Google is VERY easy to use but if you have a problem with search criteria and cache versions of information maybe a friend will help.
In fact you need not go any further than Monstrous.com as the information is right here that connects Saturn and Satan with these symbols. see the problem may have been when you misread my suggestion of Satan and with predicable prejudice replied inferring Satan as a "bad" suggestion when in fact  there was no opinion made one way or the other. I would NOT infer Alister Crowley because he is not of consequence within this discussion unless you were want to talk of the belief  of "Thelema" he was responsible for founding the religious philosophy of, and that is totally a different subject and not what the OP asked about.

I will let you have this one to start you out, it is the cache version: hope this helps you understand Satan/Saturn are one in the same when referring to this type of mythology and sigils.  below is what a google cache version URL will look like dear.


Monstrous Thread cache:  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:VBks7q8S62kJ:www.monstrous.com/forum/conspiracies/the-nibelung-of-saturn/+satan+saturn+monstorous&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com


This is what a regular search URL will look like:

http://www.monstrous.com/forum/conspiracies/the-nibelung-of-saturn/

 

"Saturn is often times associated with the figures of Lucifer- the Light Bringer, or Satan (Saturn or Sun worship)."

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 09:09:38 am »
Well, some like to be plain smart ass, but whatever makes ur soup spicy i guess. Gee, really, Saturn and Satan conected??? wow, how illuminating  :roll:

I still think we should be more careful when giving something names, specially of such weight. And use google as well, Saturn is not popular only among catholic rioters, there are religions and sciences more older than that, so search about Lord Sani, which is equivalent of Saturn. And wow, what amazement, they dont see this bad guy as so bad at all, so does that make Hindus satanists?

On the other hand, reading this twice: 
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the demon wanted me to think it was evil so that i would abandon my delving into wiccan teachings.
reeks of devil work, doesnt it?  Dear ;) :-o

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« Last Edit: February 13, 2011, 09:41:09 am by Nina »

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Re: Sigil Scratched Into Skin [Can't Identify]
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 12:13:40 pm »
i am really sure i saw that sing somewhere on a grimoire.  (great, now ill have to open up these things again <^> )
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