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Ghosts, Poltergeists & Apparitions => Shadows => Topic started by: WeeFolkMan on June 11, 2006, 11:55:31 AM

Title: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: WeeFolkMan on June 11, 2006, 11:55:31 AM
A freind of mine ( who is a VERY honest person) told me not too long ago that one day he was walking down the road (we live  in the country on a dirt road) that 5 people where talking on the side of the road, and that when he came about 7 feet from them, that they suddenly turned into "shadows" and flew through him.. he said that it felt like being hit with a 2X4 in the chest... do you think its for real? i trust him.... but have there been anything simallar?
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on June 11, 2006, 11:58:08 AM
Its a lie. Not only would a Shadow not talk, it would not just form in broad daylight (Im assuming) and talk with eachother. Tell him to stop watching to many movies and to realize when someones dreaming and when someones not.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Lord Pisces luffy on June 11, 2006, 12:28:22 PM
Well shadows do talk in a way but its more or less a gurgle moan mix/ multiple voices
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: WeeFolkMan on June 11, 2006, 02:06:21 PM
Its a lie. Not only would a Shadow not talk, it would not just form in broad daylight (Im assuming) and talk with eachother. Tell him to stop watching to many movies and to realize when someones dreaming and when someones not.
kk then.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: WeeFolkMan on June 11, 2006, 02:07:34 PM
Well shadows do talk in a way but its more or less a gurgle moan mix/ multiple voices
Rly? Hmm, didnt know dat. :evil:
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on June 11, 2006, 02:46:20 PM
Well shadows do talk in a way but its more or less a gurgle moan mix/ multiple voices

I dont think Ive ever heard of a Shadow speaking, let alone in english with another.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Lord Pisces luffy on June 11, 2006, 03:32:47 PM
Well shadows do talk in a way but its more or less a gurgle moan mix/ multiple voices

I dont think Ive ever heard of a Shadow speaking, let alone in english with another.

No I know its been done for its been on tape recorders and it really does sound like a multiple voice death anguish.

But the idea of the talking in the story is not possible so I agree with you there, they cannot talk normally.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Dark Lord M on June 11, 2006, 04:14:59 PM
I believe that the shadows come from a "Twilight Realm" and they can pass through our world they appear as shadows. When they try to communicate with us it comes out is whispers and sounds like Luffy said. So them appearing as normal people and becoming shadows and attacking your friend in my belief is impossible.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: WeeFolkMan on June 12, 2006, 09:46:27 AM
I believe that the shadows come from a "Twilight Realm" and they can pass through our world they appear as shadows. When they try to communicate with us it comes out is whispers and sounds like Luffy said. So them appearing as normal people and becoming shadows and attacking your friend in my belief is impossible.
I suppose you may be right, but do you think that they are spirits or just another species of life in the universe? And another strange thing is that we can hardly see them for more then an instant, its like they just move too fast to see with human eyes! :-o Do you think that they are rly trying to communicate with us doh? :|
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Delamorte on June 22, 2006, 09:05:08 PM
Maybe what your friend saw was something other than Shadows. I have seen shadows and the are exactly that. Silhouettes that seem to be 3 Dimensional that move and act like people. (or at least the ones I had seen).  Could he have seen a pack of Demonic Spirits?
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: maggot man on June 23, 2006, 09:25:50 PM
Shadows are capable of assuming human form too.  It allows them to spy on humans and feed off the energy obtained from the emotions of the latter.   
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Delamorte on June 25, 2006, 08:42:05 PM
Do they ever interact with humans in a positive way? They have always been in a negative way when I come acrosss them. (or they me) , Are they inherintly evil?
Don't really know much about them , just they move fast! lol
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Devious Viper on June 26, 2006, 05:02:34 AM
There's a fairly extensive reference section at

http://monstrous.com/forum/index.php?topic=1577.0

("Shadow" experts - does that ref page need updating at all?)
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on June 26, 2006, 07:30:19 AM
We dont have any more Shadow experts, they all left. If its written by Shadowling, it will be mostly factual and up to date. Also, Shadows arent evil. They do what they need to survive, just as we do.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Devious Viper on June 26, 2006, 07:48:18 AM
Okay, I had a ferret through it and removed the 3 zillion SPAM posts (instigated by sybon) boasting about who had the longest name  :? :|

Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on June 26, 2006, 08:16:40 AM
Im proud of you

*puts sticker on DVs forehead*
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Shadow on June 30, 2006, 03:56:05 AM
Well shadows do talk in a way but its more or less a gurgle moan mix/ multiple voices

I dont think Ive ever heard of a Shadow speaking, let alone in english with another.

If he was picking it up telepathically and didn't realise it would have been normal to him.

Delamorte, I have had positive interactions. It is very possible.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Delamorte on July 02, 2006, 10:18:38 PM
Phantom,
 Have you in your experiences gained insight as to who they are and why they are here?
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on July 03, 2006, 08:31:12 PM
An old friend and teacher (Shadowling) told me a lot about them. I used to have them, but I put up psychic shields to keep them out. I am not a fan of what I cant see.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Dark Lord M on July 05, 2006, 03:44:51 PM
I have been doing studies on Shadows and there are some cases where they do attack people, Alexander knows what I meen when I say this, so I can understand the attack, but not humans turning into Shadow People. :spy:
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Shadow on July 05, 2006, 11:38:07 PM
Physical attacks? I've heard of mental although they could use the mental attack to make it seem physical.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Dark Lord M on July 06, 2006, 06:30:26 AM
Yes, some people say they have been physically attacked and even raped by these things. :spy:
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on July 06, 2006, 09:36:02 AM
That is 100% not true. All a Shadow wants is the energies that they can get off a person. They will try and scare it indirectly, but if that doesnt work anymore they will just get up and leave. Shadows would never physically attack anything, let alone rape them.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Devious Viper on July 06, 2006, 10:43:21 AM
Actually, Tom, Mike is right - some people have alleged physical attacks, and even rapes. The veracity of the allegations is a different matter, but they have been made.

http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Shadow_people

Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on July 06, 2006, 11:07:53 AM
Theres a diffrence between Shadows and spirits that appear as a black mass. Those are the ones that attack and rape, not shadows.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Devious Viper on July 06, 2006, 11:24:27 AM
What exactly is the difference?
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on July 06, 2006, 11:49:55 AM
A shadow is a shadow and always was. A spirit that appears as a black mass was a human that died. There have been many many many shadow sightings that have turned out to be just ghosts. Shadows have no need to attack and rape.They like the ones that scare easily. Once a person catches on and becomes immune to the presense of the Shadow, then it will leave to go onto another victim. Rape and attack will give them to much attention for their liking.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Devious Viper on July 06, 2006, 11:55:18 AM
Your first two sentences are only assumptions on your part - you could be wrong. Your last two are at odds with the reports and the opinions of the Shadow experts. I'm confused as to how a shadow sighting could be 'proven' to be a haunting. What would you list as the differential points when trying to determine which of the entities was involved?
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Phantom X on July 06, 2006, 12:05:54 PM
Actually, the first sentance is what Shadowling, our first true expert, has taught me. Shadowling left before he could tell me how to differentiate. From my experiences with him, he seems to know alot more than the average expert to begin with. If only he was here....
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Devious Viper on July 06, 2006, 12:12:44 PM
Dr. Morgan Spence and Heidi Hollis seem to be the two people that the remainder of the paranormal field turn to as the aknowledged experts; they both seem certain that shadows can and will attack under certain circumstances. Perhaps Shadowling's dealings were with less aggressive shadows? I have read somewhere that they tune in to certain types of psychic vibe, so perhaps they were more wary?
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Morticia on July 06, 2006, 12:38:23 PM
Yes, some people say they have been physically attacked and even raped by these things. :spy:

I wonder if this could be an incubus or succubus rather than a shadow?

~Morticia
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Devious Viper on July 06, 2006, 12:41:52 PM
They have similarities, but the cross-over is to the extent that one could wonder if it applied both ways.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Bloody Angel on July 06, 2006, 12:54:51 PM
I wonder if this could be an incubus or succubus rather than a shadow?
~Morticia


It doesn't answer your question, maybe it will make you wonder more but... It's brand new and ready for reading and editing :)

http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Incubus_%28demon%29
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Dark Lord M on July 06, 2006, 04:39:01 PM
Thanks for backing me up DV, If Shadows can walk through walls, move things, and other such stuff, and if they need negative emotions to power themselves, what better way to attack a human. That would give them more energy then just jumping out at a human.  :<
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Shadow on July 09, 2006, 06:48:42 AM
I MIGHT be willing to accept a physical attack from a Shadow but a rape is beyond them, they have a sense of honor just as we do and if it was possible it would be really, really rare. They have to be allowed out of their Shadow realm. I believe they can move things but they wouldn't without good reason. They aren't here to draw attention and if your favourite pen goes missing from a place that you never touch, that causes attention. They don't just feed off us, they learn too and they can't learn from us if they interupt our normal cycle of life. Have any of these alleged "rapes" found any kind of semen? Or if it was true I would be most intrigues by a Shadow induced pregnancy but to me they wouldn't touch a human with out great need.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Devious Viper on July 09, 2006, 07:05:34 AM
I don't necessarily disagree with you per se, for the sake of arguing, but... there is an awful lot of anecdotal (and that is all there is about any aspect of Shadow people) that they are carrying out malevolent attacks. And as for a sense of honour, I think that is
a) anthropomorphisation of a plainly inhuman entity
b) just wrong - how can a creature that slinks around feeding off of one's fears, uninvited, have honour?

Reports suggest that these creatures are growing in strength and numbers and boldness. however they might have acted when they first came to our attention could be very different to how they are now, particularly as we have no idea what their agenda is.


~ Viper ~
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: fallen on August 13, 2006, 01:26:11 PM
well i have met many shadows and all of them were not friendly. in fact they have tryed to hurt some of my friends because i have a habbit of pissing them off. and well i do know that they hate cats,they will not enter a room that has a cat in it, i dont know why. and i have a very bad habbit of finding them alot. for some reason they cant hurt me so they sometimes hurt my friends. but i have met one good shadow but he is my guardian. i need to find a why to fight the violent ones because i put like minded people in danger because the shadows cant touch me for some reason. or i am just crazy but when i am not the only one that can see and feel them so i think that we all cant be crazy.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Sorreah on August 17, 2006, 11:55:03 PM
About that attack or rape, i think it could be more possible that a person with strong psychic and energy skills could have done one out of those 3 things.
1- a psychic illusion
2- astral projection, but really good enough with telekinetic skills and matter manipulations.
3- Send out a different being other than a shadow, but that had a shadowy form.

I read most of the post about shadows and i am myself working on about learning about my "shadow-self" so il probably post some stuff about the discovery that i am going through about the inner shadow and maybe it could have some relationship with the shadow people.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Nina on August 18, 2006, 01:09:27 AM
Hm, so that is why my cat dissapeared.....blast those damn things of air that moves....
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Nina on September 01, 2008, 04:29:52 AM
People, please dont write with caps lock, it is considered as a flaming. I deleted your posts, next time write like everybody else, and if your typer is stuck, get a new one.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: thneedly on September 01, 2008, 04:34:44 AM
I deleted your posts

Thank you. I shouldn't have posted that.
Sorry  :oops:
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Nina on September 01, 2008, 06:07:12 AM
No problemo, I actually enjoy my super duper power of justice!!!  :roll: :roll: :-D
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Nagt Jagter on January 18, 2009, 06:00:17 PM
the bastards talk when they get caught only they seemingly only know vulgar language.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: berdache on March 25, 2009, 01:40:54 AM
I have heard of a lot of strange goings on with shadows but I've never heard of any shadow raping someone......could it possibly be that the "raping" is of another sort; like raping their will??
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Countess Maelice111 on November 27, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
I have heard of a lot of strange goings on with shadows but I've never heard of any shadow raping someone......could it possibly be that the "raping" is of another sort; like raping their will??
that's true! their attack is on emotions,more often when you're feeling depressed,melancholy,etc. ... i think that somehow it's their ''food'' rather than trying to recruit human in their own,but it happens...
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: Moloch on November 27, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
I have heard of a lot of strange goings on with shadows but I've never heard of any shadow raping someone......could it possibly be that the "raping" is of another sort; like raping their will??
that's true! their attack is on emotions,more often when you're feeling depressed,melancholy,etc. ... i think that somehow it's their ''food'' rather than trying to recruit human in their own,but it happens...

Already been said... try something new.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: whatami on January 10, 2011, 09:26:29 AM
 Just a thought, but could it be that for a second he was seeing what the shadow people realy are? who realy knows forsure what they are able to do or realy look like without the cover of shadows..

And personaly I dont think anyone or anything is above doing anything, if that makes sense.

keep in mind I have no idea what im talking about. It's just a thought!!
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: heckco on April 28, 2011, 09:20:44 AM
In my opinion I believe your friend was lying about the encounter. I have seen shadow people majority of my life. Most of time shadow people try to avoid any contact with humans. Second i never encounter any shadow people speaking or in large numbers. Either your friend had a rare encounter with shadow people or perhaps maybe encounter with a cluster of demons. It would be more plausible it was a group of demons then shadow people. I have seen shadow people form in broad daylight but it rare but they do so at will.
Title: Re: An attack by shadow persons?
Post by: AWBrielle on April 28, 2011, 01:25:42 PM
In my opinion I believe your friend was lying about the encounter. I have seen shadow people majority of my life. Most of time shadow people try to avoid any contact with humans. Second i never encounter any shadow people speaking or in large numbers. Either your friend had a rare encounter with shadow people or perhaps maybe encounter with a cluster of demons. It would be more plausible it was a group of demons then shadow people. I have seen shadow people form in broad daylight but it rare but they do so at will.

Likely NOT a demon, to be honest. Why on earth would a demon wear black robes and do no more than fly through a person? I really don't understand.

That said, also definitely not a shadow.

Either an apparition or a lie.