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are dragons evil?

Started by Demona, August 07, 2007, 01:53:39 PM

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blow_fly

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QuoteYou have such a beautiful way with words, blow_fly. rolleyes

Why, thank you. It is so very nice to have someone compliment me on my eloquence every now and then. 

QuoteThey're pretty much everywhere, but they've got to have a root somewhere... Mesopotamia maybe? Tiamat had the form of a sea dragon and Mesopotamia's supposed to be the cradle of civilization...


It's impossible to know one way or the other.  Personally, I'm inclined to  belief that there is no outstanding reason to assume that the concept of dragons can be traced back to any particular  culture or civilization.  Mesopotamia may have predated other civilizations, but that isn't exactly a reason for assuming that other cultures didn't arrive at the concept of huge, serpent like beings independently.  After all, large snakes are found in most regions and parts of the world and these are probably the genesis of most dragon myths.
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Kadesh

 I didn't really think that you could trace it, but I couldn't help but wonder. Seems to me it would be hard to trace something like that when you weren't there...
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blow_fly

True enough. Yet another reason as to why attempting to discover the true origin of dragons will always be an effort confined to the realm of speculation.
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Kadesh

 The same could be said of many many things. Has anyone ever found evidence of dragons?
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KubeSix

Quote from: Kadesh on September 28, 2009, 08:06:54 PM
The same could be said of many many things. Has anyone ever found evidence of dragons?

That church in England with a mastodon skull did :roll: 0:)
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Kadesh

 *<:) *<:)  The saints.... oh how they slay erroneously....
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blow_fly

QuoteHas anyone ever found evidence of dragons?


Probably not  because if there was such evidence, you wouldn't be looking them up under the ''Mythical Monsters'' section of the forum in the first place. The best you're going to get in the way of evidence are clumsy efforts to link perfectly mundane phenomena to ancient legends and superstitions. 
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onishadowolf

In my basement of course...wait I don't have a basement. Want evidence, go to a museum. And think of an intelligent dinosuaur species that gave humans everything and then took it away. Or maybe we just have issues with gaint lizards for no reason.
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Kadesh

 I didn't think dino's were that unintelligent to begin with. And I, personally, don't think dragons would be any more or less so.
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Kadesh

Quote from: blow_fly on September 28, 2009, 08:55:47 PM
QuoteHas anyone ever found evidence of dragons?


Probably not  because if there was such evidence, you wouldn't be looking them up under the ''Mythical Monsters'' section of the forum in the first place. The best you're going to get in the way of evidence are clumsy efforts to link perfectly mundane phenomena to ancient legends and superstitions. 

Just because we have to find it in Mythical Monsters, doesn't mean it didn't actually exist. (And, yes, I know you weren't implying otherwise.) I'd be willing to bet that we have found the evidence everyone seeks... but someone messed up, and no one knows about it.
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blow_fly

QuoteI'd be willing to bet that we have found the evidence everyone seeks... but someone messed up, and no one knows about it.

It's not entirely impossible, I'll grant you that. Stranger things have certainly happened. To discuss your theory further, by evidence do you mean actual physical remains? Or something less tangible?
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Kadesh

 The only evidence that people would actually accept would be physical remains. I'd say somewhere along the lines, someone has found something.... say, a newborn dragon who's wings aren't fully developed... and they've missed that tiny little detail and taken it for just another dinosaur.
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KubeSix

Quote from: Kadesh on October 03, 2009, 05:25:26 AM
The only evidence that people would actually accept would be physical remains. I'd say somewhere along the lines, someone has found something.... say, a newborn dragon who's wings aren't fully developed... and they've missed that tiny little detail and taken it for just another dinosaur.

Possibly. Birds are descended from dinosaurs, right? So it's possible there were winged quadrupeds.
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Kadesh

 "What are these small bones here? Oh my god... could those be wings?!"   :spy: In steps the Church of Rome....  :gun:



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blow_fly

That's an interesting theory that you have there, Kadesh.   But in a hypothetical scenario of that nature, I'd assume that there would be other fossils that would pre-date the dragon remains and which would indicate the existence an evolutionary trail that eventually led to the development of full fledged dragons. If dragons truly did exist at some point as distinct entities, they would have probably been subject to the same evolutionary pressures as all other organic life-forms.
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