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Muerte:
  O.K.  This thread is going to address Bigfoot/Yeti/Abominable Snowman/ect...

  Why do YOU ( points at the crowd ) think we have yet to aquire actual credible physical evidence of it's existance. 

  Why do YOU think that there are not more of these creatures in existance. ( Every creature so far has a tendency to reproduce in accordance to their environment so... )

  I'm sure more questions will come up during this conversation/debate, as I am sure tempers may flare.  Come on people, let the theories fly, but I warn you now, think on what you say before you say it, because I will point out inconsistancies where I find them, just as I expect others to do for me.  ( Oh, and I am sure Moloch, Blowfly, Loki will also do the same )

  So without further ado, BEGIN!

Angelus:
In a monestery in the alps the apparantly have a piece of bigfoot fur, there has been plenty of dicreditable evidence. tracks, blurry photos, witness accounts. Enough that if we used the same amount of questionable evidence in a murder trial the guy would be strapped to old sparky in no time, The only thing we dont have is a clear photo or a corpse. It is most likely they breed seasonaly and keep to small groups, hence why they arent crawling all over forests and mountain ranges. The blurry photo thing is the same as why we don't get good UFO shots. We just don't and any that are clear are proven hoaxes or discredited as hoaxes. The most logical reason for us not finding a corpse of one lying in a mountain valley somewhere in the Alps seems to be that we assume these BHMs (big hairy monsters) have the intelect of at least a neanderthal, who, even in those early days, burried there dead out of either respect or some religious type belief. One was apparently found once. First thought to be a frozen caveman until the discovery of a gunshot in one eye. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Iceman

I believe in a lot of things but BHMs are still on my "maybe" list.

rave phillaphia:
Its just skeptisim. To prove something you have to diprove it. We are discovering old animals all the time that we had no clue even existed or we thought was extinct. I do know that in North America that there use to be a Giant Ape but went extinct. It wouldn't surprize me that in some remote location if it still existed. Its the same problem when we come to try to prove Gods existence "WE CAN"T!!" thats what makes it so difficult. We believe that we should be able to prove/disprove certain things like big foot or the yetti just because it is in the material world. If it wasn't then people would argue and debate in proving it eventually leading back to square one in not being able to. Another problem has already been mentioned in that people trying to create hoaxes so that they can draw attention or make a quick buck (which is annoying for archaeologists because we get discredited and a lot of problems). But yea there is my rant!

Muerte:

--- Quote --- The most logical reason for us not finding a corpse of one lying in a mountain valley somewhere in the Alps seems to be that we assume these BHMs (big hairy monsters) have the intelect of at least a neanderthal, who, even in those early days, burried there dead out of either respect or some religious type belief
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  So this creature is capabile of rudimentary human thought.  If this were the case would they not also be using tools of some kind, and would there not also be some evidence of habitation in secluded areas such as caves.  To my knowledge there has been no such types of dicovery.  As to buring their dead, well I cann't say that they would have to use tools, but inorder to bury the dead deep enough for us to not discover them, not to mention scavengers which dig for food, well tools would help, and an inteligent animal would be able to figure that out.


--- Quote ---It is most likely they breed seasonaly and keep to small groups, hence why they arent crawling all over forests and mountain ranges
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  So are you saying they have enough inteligence to know that inorder to stay unobserved, they only breed rarely, to purposely keep their numbers low.  I ask not to be ostentatious, but it seems to me that every other organism on earth breeds until they reach the confines of their environment, also, if a certain organism breeds to keep their numbers low, they are asking for extinction.  Normal accidents, viruses, bacteria, environment, lack of food, hell anything can kill something that lives.  Also no other creature I know of purposely limits breeding, so this would put Bigfoot/Yeti/Abominable Snowman/ect... in the extreme minority for intelligence if they do this on purpose.


--- Quote ---Its just skeptisim
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  It's skeptisim that causes us to ask questions in search of the truth.  It isn't because we want to not believe, but it is to keep us from believeing blindly, and no offence, but those who prefer to believe blindly are fools.


--- Quote --- Its the same problem when we come to try to prove Gods existence "WE CAN"T!!" thats what makes it so difficult. We believe that we should be able to prove/disprove certain things like big foot or the yetti just because it is in the material world
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  Proving God exist and proving that Bigfoot/Yeti/Abominable Snowman/ect... exist are not compareable.  I know where you were going with this statement, but God ( if he exist ) does not exist on earth while Bigfoot/Yeti/Abominable Snowman/ect... apparently do.  As you said, we have discovered many things in our short time on earth, but have yet to ferrit out this elusive creature.  Why haven't we, with all of our vaunted technology discovered anything.  Is this creature so much smarter than we are?


  And as for hoaxes.  Yes there have been many.  Some for money, some by the desperate to prove the creatures existance, but so far all proven wrong.  I'll leave off with this thought, and its advice I usually impart on everyone.

  A lie is easier to except for truth, beacause it is what most want to hear, and it comforts, but the truth is harder to except, because it is INESCAPEABLE, because it is REALITY, because it is the TRUTH!

Angelus:
Breeding to keep your numbers low is stupid. Thats why I didnt say they did it on purpose, just coincidentaly. Like pandas, maybe they just don't and seasonal breeding is not uncommon. Maybe they do use tools. Sticks and rocks make perfectly fine tools for alot of animals if used the right way. Dont need a shovel to dig a hole, just a big flat bit of rock/wood.

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