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spiritual chains
« on: April 12, 2010, 01:01:14 PM »
Hi, I asked this question before, from when I first joined here, which is almost a year ago...
But I'm chained...
To give further details, I have a chain hangin on and around me that prevents me from properly developping my spiritual abilities...
Back then I got some answers of where these chains come from and it was decided they were probably laid upon me by accident by my mother...
I was also told to confront my mother about this fact, but that is not an option since she won't understand (she does not believe in the paranormal. Someone also said te me that I, at that point, was to weak to break the chains by brute force (don't know if that is possible to do with brute force, if so I wouldn't know how since I can't use my powers properly)
I was wondering if there were other ways that could help me get unchained, like certain people I can go and see who can help me get rid of them, or ways so I can destroy the chains myself, without harming others ofcourse ;).

If you need more information about this, feel free to ask more in detail, I'll be happy to give the answers, but I really want to get rid of these chains because they are somewhat choking me (so to say)

I'm looking forward to all your replies^^
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 03:40:33 PM »
you said the chains were probably lai upon you by your mother and im guessing that if she has no beleif in the paranormal then she wouldnt be adept enough to do this with spell and energy work so im going to guess these chains would have been put on you in some kind of act of sheer will or multiple chains other than looking into cordcutting or your chakras
also as a general benefit of invoking the powers of a god (taking a gods power or portion of themselves within you) is usually suficient to break most bindings especially gods of amore chaotic nature.sry that this is a large mostly run on sentence :)
but also if the chains put on you arent some sort of spell but a mere act o will which is the condition im using to make these assumptions sheer bruteorce should and in all likeliness work very well.

I could refine my opinions and the help igive if you can give a more descriptive account of the chains themselves and the nature of your abilities.
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 11:11:47 PM »
  Levi, you took the word right outta my mouth, well most of them any ways.  Lex think of it in this fashion.  Your mother may not acknowledge or understand the paranormal consciously, but there is nothing she can do about her subconscious actions.  Through force of will she has bound you in an attempt to protect you from she would consider dangerous.  You wish to break these chains?  The way is simply enough, you must develop a stronger sense of will than the one who placed them there in the first place.  YOU must take control and become stronger and in so doing you will shed the inconvenience of your shackles.
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2010, 07:58:11 AM »
Ok, so, how do I break those chains by force?
Also how would I develop a stronger sense of will?

These questions answered would be a huge help^^

the nature of my abilities are more or less unknown to me since I can't really control them, but I do know I can sometimes send energy to others over huge distances, or make connections with other people too
also I feel like I can do telekinesis, but I have never succeeded in it knowingly, although there have been signs that I have done it before, just not hard proof (since they happen in my subconsious)

Also, I have let my aura looked at by someone (don't know if this is of any use to you) and I was told my aura was goldcoloured, not bright gold, but dark gold and I looked it up and it means smth like I haven't been on the path I should have been for learning to control my abilities. If I were to succeed in learning to control my powers my aura would colour bright gold.
I was also told my aura was very chaotic in it's movement and at some places it stretched away from my body for about half a meter (which she said was very far away from the body for normal aura behaviour)
also, but I'm not sure if what she said is correct, but she says my aura, with being chaotic, isn't showing normal flows (like ex. it should flow vertically and mine would be circling around me)
She took a deeper look and saw parts of my aura were streaming along the chains upon me as if my aura is trying to sever them by themselves...

I really hope you can give me more help with this info^^

There are places where my aura has a more natural flow, which is at the bottom 2 (maybe 3) chakra pools, since I did learn to actively open en close them without meditation (like mastered those pools)

Well, if this isn't any help I got some huge help because of both of you already^^
« Last Edit: April 13, 2010, 08:10:16 AM by LeXtruX »
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2010, 06:58:32 PM »
thank you muerte and no problem leXtruX

to increase your will you merely have to exert it get the last say in a argument fast from something the point is to consciessly not do something when you desire. once your wil is suffecient merely willing the chains away would work however i highly recommend symbolism invison the chains and hackaway at the air with a knife or some other sharp thing and visualize the chains breaking as afar as auraus go although its not my fortay your aura indeed sounds like you have energy and capabilities boiling under the surface  you may want to also envision your aura now that you have a sense o what it looks like as expanding and breaking the chains around you. Essentially once you have the will to cut the ties that bind you merely need to show yourself what you want done.
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2010, 03:07:28 AM »
levi
I didn't quite get what you meant, please rephrase a bit?? but how exactly am I to increase my will?

edit: I tried breaking them by force and I feel a bit more free now, so I think I either cut some off or I loosened them, but they're not all gone...
Today I'm seeing that person again and I'm going to let her have another look at me
I'll keep you updated^^

Anyway, I want to say thank you both for helping me this much already ^^

edit 2:
Ok, i just got back from her (she's my girlfriend btw) but she was a bit tired and but she did notice my aura to be brighter and that I felt more free around the chest and throath and such (where there used to be chains) so I guess those chains have broken... I still have some around my head and I can feel a big one at my back, but I can't reach it, it's in the spot where you can't really grab things...
Also, she was to tired to confirm this, but my aura has been less chaotic but has a larger range now, I'm making a wild guess, but I think I'm guessing to little, but it had a range of about 7 meters, I suspect it was broader though...
I'm still getting used to feeling this free, but I must say it feels good ^^ and the range is something I need to get used to because before it was smaller and I'm accustomed to that feeling so now the range is larger and everything feels different because things that are 7 meters away from me feel like it's right next to me xD
Anyways, levi your advice helped a lot! muerte, yours did to, I'm still not quite there.
My gf gave me a link where I can learn to control telekinesis^^ and I'll continue trying to master my chakra pools.
Soon I'll give psi balls another go too.
Also, ever heard of Devil May Cry 4? The guy, Nero, has this demonic arm right? it can extend that arm with spiritual energy... I was wondering if that would be possible in real life if one would possess enough energy to make such thing (the arm extension, not the arm itself...) if so, please give me some advice on where to learn to do that, because I do feel that to create smth like the devil bringer isn't normal telekinesis, since you're actually grabbing things, holding it, throwing it or even crushing it like you would with your hand...
Don't think wrong of me, I just wish to know if this is possible because if it is it would be a challenge I would love to complete^^

and about the golden aura, not sure if you know the meanings of the colors, but I'll post the aura I posses now and the one I will have after I'm 'awakened' (so to say)
this is the one I got (though now it's becoming a mix between this and the bottom one)
Dark brownish yellow or gold: A student, or one who is straining at studying; overly analitical to the point of feeling fatigued or stressed; trying to make up for "lost time" by learning everything all at once.

This is the one I should have when I have my powers under control:
Clear gold metallic, shiny and bright: Spiritual energy and power activated and awakened; an inspired person.
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2010, 10:53:26 PM »
sorry for being unclear to strengthen your will you must exercise mind might and magic all work like muscles my friend.
you exercise your will any time you make a choice or decision and choose to stick to it like sticking to a diet or doing things you dont want to, because to circuvent anothers will you need to make sure that your own will is under control and that your mind doesn't wander or you go back on your decisions. Many spiritualists use sel denial to increase there will over themselves acts like meditating and actively clearing the mind, fasting from food orobsering some kind of personal taboos, refrain fromlying or making promises that have a doubt of being kept. so any way you can think of being able to control yourself and your mind is a good method of strengthening will.
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 02:40:08 AM »
sorry for being unclear to strengthen your will you must exercise mind might and magic all work like muscles my friend.
you exercise your will any time you make a choice or decision and choose to stick to it like sticking to a diet or doing things you dont want to, because to circuvent anothers will you need to make sure that your own will is under control and that your mind doesn't wander or you go back on your decisions. Many spiritualists use sel denial to increase there will over themselves acts like meditating and actively clearing the mind, fasting from food orobsering some kind of personal taboos, refrain fromlying or making promises that have a doubt of being kept. so any way you can think of being able to control yourself and your mind is a good method of strengthening will.
Thanks, I get it now^^ So basicly, every time I stick to my first intention my will gets stronger? I have to control my desires like in my relationship?
I'll make work of that, it won't be easy but I'll be sure to succeed, if I could destroy chains now I'm sure to permanently eradicte them from me with this training you offered me, right?
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 06:09:28 AM »
it's all about you...if you believe it will, it will.
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 04:02:53 PM »
yes by training your will through controlling your desires you will be able to break through the chains that have been plaguing you if those chains are made merely of the will power your mother has entrapped you with .
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2010, 12:15:53 PM »
not to stir but did you perhaps put the chains there your self? often our left hand doesn't know what our right is doing. i don't know but that may be why there is so much difficulty in breaking them? they could be keeping something from you that you, on some level, decided best left unknown?
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2010, 10:57:14 PM »
that tought has crossed my mind as well, but I'm not sure, if it is true than I still need to break them because I don't know the cause that made them be there^^
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 01:45:37 AM »
i just mentioned it cause if you put them there your self, no force of will would move them. it will have to be more of a search through the darker sewers of your mind to see what it is your trying to chain and then its up to you to judge if its wise to break the bonds.
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 11:42:09 AM »
  This is hopefull a direction that we should hope does not exist, as if it were the cause then he has more of a problem than a simple binding.  One reason to assume that this is not the cause would be that in order to achieve the afore mentioned result then the other/alternate personality would have to be in control.

  (I will point out that if he did not know that he himself applied the chains then it would have to be someone else, and if this someone shares his body then it would stand to reason that it would be his alternate/split personality.) 

  IF he were to have such a personality then it would be apparent to those around him, and as he is still young I am sure his parents would be quick to point out and do something about such a condition.

  (Of course his alternate/split personality "Could" be one with only minor changes in his personality, but such a possibility is astronomically unlikely.)
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Re: spiritual chains
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2010, 03:14:39 AM »
i don't think that there is necessarily an alter personality involvement. we can often do things to our self's, such as others wouldn't dream of visiting upon us. it may have been an subconscious effort to hide something or to protect the self, the mind is a fragile thing and it will protect its self in the most creative ways, these little wall's and cages in out mind are often a hindrance to development
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