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Title: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Loki on December 12, 2009, 03:14:00 AM
 By Tibetan Master Milarepa


1.   To have little pride and envy is the sign of the superior person.

2.   To have few desires and satisfaction with simple things is the sign
        of the superior person.

3.   To be lacking in hypocrisy and deceit is the sign of the superior person.

4.   To regulate one's conduct in accordance with the law of cause and effect
        as carefully as one would guard the pupils of one's eyes is the sign
        of the superior person.

5.   To be faithful in one's engagement and obligations is the sign of the
        superior person.

6.   To be able to keep alive friendships while regarding all beings with
        impartiality is the sign of the superior person.

7.   To look with pity and without anger upon those who live evilly is the
        sign of the superior person.

8.   To allow others the victory, taking on the defeat, is the sign of the
        superior person.

9.   To differ from the multitude in every thought and deed is the sign of
        the superior person.

10.  To observe faithfully and without pride one's spiritual vows is the sign
        of the superior person.

Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Raziel on December 13, 2009, 03:19:46 AM
To be a superior person. In a nutshell.

To be a robot.

No harm meant.

Just food for thought.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: matthew321 on December 14, 2009, 07:23:43 PM
So is a saint a "superior person"? Is Jesus a "superior person" (by these rules only)

Is it possible to be a superior person? I do agree with a lot of the things said but quite frankly people lack the discipline to acquire such a state. You would have to have a saintly disposition and a wisdom filled upbringing to achieve such a state.

It is a good concept, just really hard to achieve...
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Raziel on December 14, 2009, 08:52:53 PM
In other words "adjectives are relative to the purpose" and hence one cannot be superior without having an ultimate or defining characteristic and therefore depending on said characteristic there should be other types of "superior and "ultimate" person.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: emp765 on December 15, 2009, 05:56:12 AM
Surely awarness of superiority leds to a pompuss mindframe and self assumption so an unknowingness of superiority leads to a superior person?

I also have trouble with    …    9.   To differ from the multitude in every thought and deed is the sign of the superior person.    …     Sometimes the multitude is right
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Devinoir on December 16, 2009, 04:50:36 PM
The thing is, this is not the vain superhero, this is the way of the wise, of those who are almost outcasts, and yet are satisfied and at piece with themselves.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Moloch on December 16, 2009, 07:58:47 PM
The superior person does not rely on society to tell them they are superior; for society will always lie to them to maintain the faux-superiority of the rest of the members of said society; hence rule number nine.

Also, emp, pretty much the only multitude that you will ever find thinking or behaving correctly is Lemmings(figurative & literal) - as they cascade off of cliffsides.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Devinoir on December 17, 2009, 03:16:20 AM
Do you reallly think that a person who deems himself superior is one?
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Moloch on December 17, 2009, 06:14:46 AM
Does art imitate life, or does life imitate art?
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Devinoir on December 17, 2009, 07:08:56 AM
I think that the first statement is more true, as I can hardly imagine a landscape pretending to look as a drawing by Dega. But I can see what you mean. It's all a matter of opinion. But I believe a superior person is above the relativity of opinions, especially when it concerns himself.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Moloch on December 17, 2009, 07:33:15 AM
You'd actually be quite surprised. More often than not, a superior person, according to the quote by Loki, will not think of themselves as superior because humility is one of the characteristics of the superior person. In reality though, a superior person will often know they are superior, but will refrain from boasting overly much about it, since the boast itself disproves his point according to current social mores.

For example, in his day, Beowulf was the superior person/warrior, and such a person was not only entitled to boasting of their own greatness, nor just encouraged to boast - boasting was demanded of them! But today, such behavior is viewed as marking a person as weak or inferior.

So you see, once again it's all relative. Who is superior is determined by cultural norms and social mores, not by ability to do or say anything spectacular. So, this means that the man who wrote the words Loki quoted would be a superior man in his culture only, but not according to Western or any other culture.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Devinoir on December 17, 2009, 07:48:13 AM
Maybe he meant the absolute superior person, outside of the relativity of cultures? The superior human being, not the superior member of the society? Because, quite frankly, most of the ancient heroes WERE members of societies.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Raziel on December 17, 2009, 09:20:07 AM
So the superior person is not subject to the whims and demands of society and is quite content with himself.


Does this count those who do not know any better?
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Moloch on December 17, 2009, 10:44:32 AM
If that were the case then folks like myself, Loki, and Markus are to be included as superior people.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Loki on December 17, 2009, 11:47:56 AM
Of course, the adjective of "superior" is not to be taken in the nazis sense. I guess it means being better or improving towards the objective of being superior to one former darkened self. It has to be taken as rules of conduct or advices. I found myself difficult to follow some of those points practically ...
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: shalamar on May 27, 2010, 11:20:15 PM
An awareness of oneself and ones dreams and aspirations. Being true to these without allowing outside influence or judgements to create change, and all the while accepting and understanding without judgmentation those views.  Though I may be true to myself,  my truth may also be a lie. 
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Muerte on May 29, 2010, 04:14:46 PM
By Tibetan Master Milarepa


1.   To have little pride and envy is the sign of the superior person.

2.   To have few desires and satisfaction with simple things is the sign
        of the superior person.

3.   To be lacking in hypocrisy and deceit is the sign of the superior person.

4.   To regulate one's conduct in accordance with the law of cause and effect
        as carefully as one would guard the pupils of one's eyes is the sign
        of the superior person.

5.   To be faithful in one's engagement and obligations is the sign of the
        superior person.

6.   To be able to keep alive friendships while regarding all beings with
        impartiality is the sign of the superior person.

7.   To look with pity and without anger upon those who live evilly is the
        sign of the superior person.

8.   To allow others the victory, taking on the defeat, is the sign of the
        superior person.

9.   To differ from the multitude in every thought and deed is the sign of
        the superior person.

10.  To observe faithfully and without pride one's spiritual vows is the sign
        of the superior person.



  1. Half and half, I have no envy of anyone, but I do have Pride.

  2. Yes

  3. Yes

  4. Yes, to me balance is paramount.

  5. Yes, as well as I am able.

  6. Yes

  7. No

  8. Again, Half and Half.  If I know I am in the right then I will never admit to a defeat.

  9. YES

  10. This is a hard one because I don't think I really have any "Spirituality".

  6 Yes's  1 No  2 half and half and a I have no idea.............................So what does that make me?
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: shalamar on June 02, 2010, 11:17:21 AM
True to yourself, honest, and real....
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Raziel on November 11, 2010, 08:10:11 AM
What defines spirituality anyway? For all we know, muerte could be a monk.
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: cylinder2166 on November 12, 2010, 07:37:11 PM
So what makes it this person's place to decide what is and isn't a superior quality anyway?
Title: Re: Ten Signs of the Superior Person
Post by: Ravening on January 08, 2011, 09:13:59 PM
Superior is subjective, not unlike the word beauty.  Same with inferior.  At any rate, whichever "definition" of superior and inferior you use, there will always be someone superior compared to you and someone inferior to you.  But the truth is, I would never call someone superior or inferior in polite conversation.

We could say the ten signs of the beautiful person and run into the same issue, being its subjectivity.

There is something to be said for confidence but when we start thinking we are superior (or inferior) to someone I think we run into hot water.