I am doing some research on the subject matter.
Would like to hear what everybody thinks or knows about this.

What I have read so far is that you should not get involved in it.

[rave phillaphia]

The reason I believe you shouldn't get involved in it is because it is very complex. You have to always think abstractly and it is very powerful stuff, so there is no room for error.

Go for it. Try it. The only things i have ever learnt of any real worth came from doing things and f##king up in every shade imaginable.
Does it grab you and really hook your attention is the question?
What we think of it is nearly irrelevant compared to this.

Go for it. Try it. The only things i have ever learnt of any real worth came from doing things and f##king up in every shade imaginable.
Does it grab you and really hook your attention is the question?
What we think of it is nearly irrelevant compared to this.

To answer your question: It started a while back with "Angels/demons, where do they come from, who wrote about them, when, where?  A lot of questions that I wanted answered. Not only about this, but about my believes in general.  Well, after all kinds of research and happenings I came to "Enochian Magic".
And yes it got my attention.

Due to the fact that I'm fairly new to this and still have to discern  between fiction (like movies)and reality I find it very helpful to get as many insights as possible.

Ok try this for an insight.
Magic is not something you can get from a book.
Magic is an experience.
Insights from words are empty and 2 dimensional until you have experiences to marry them to.

People want to know it all before they try it.
When people read about magic they want to make sure they have all their protections and countermeasures in place, just in case
They want to be fully prepared


This type of thinking is actually a barrier to experiencing the things they read about.
It keeps them safe and hidden behind a wall of their own making, but actually outside their control.
It is a form of contingency thinking, when they have x, then they can y.
This is the ritualistic realm of the daily waking rational social human.
It is a mind trap more powerful than any conjuration triangle.

Magic is the realm outside this.
To experience it you have to perform actions that are outside the routines of the daily waking social human.


Personally i cant see how people will learn anything real until they have their own experiences with this stuff.
Thinking about opinions is still only thinking. It is only ever theoretical, still inside their own walled conjuration triangles .

I am not sure people are even interested in magic. I think what they are really after is mental entertainment. For that reading books is enough.

thanks for the reply oldbill.
Let me ponder on this.
Will come back to you.

Ponder......ponder.......
Agreed...... magic itself you can not get from a book.
Word, written or spoken do have power.

I see your point. But what is wrong with drawing on other peoples experiences?
You can never be totally prepared

What is a "daily waking social human"?


Note:  Want to read more about it ----- because I have experienced it.   

[Arcane Artifice]

From what I've read Enochian is potent, powerful, and hard to control. However I'm still very interested in it and am still looking into it. I would approach your studies and possible practices with caution and guard however. Other than that if you have the passion and drive I would say go for it, just be safe about it.

SKGS what have you actually learnt by reading other peoples opinions about this?
What do you think you could learn?

[RunningElk]

SKGS the daily waking man is pleb who works in a cubicle with a family or alone in a bachelor apartment with a mortgage and likes to spend others money till he is drowning debt till he cant and takes his own life like the (language sorry) pussy he is god bless captoilism

This isnt what i meant at all runningelk.

[RunningElk]

sorry everyone that wasnt called for as you read im a bit of anti-system (wish i could say man) person its just wrong but this agenda is straying from the proper subject so chop chop lets get back to buiessness

Are we playing word games?

What I was looking for was experiences good or bad and what people (who had experiences w/Enochian Magic) thought about it; have a discussion on subject matter.

I was under the impression that this forum is for one thing an exchange of thoughts, knowledge and information.
Example:  Rave gave a really good author Stephen Skinner (different post so).

[jordyn]

From what I've read Enochian is potent, powerful, and hard to control. However I'm still very interested in it and am still looking into it. I would approach your studies and possible practices with caution and guard however. Other than that if you have the passion and drive I would say go for it, just be safe about it.

name one type of magick that isn't hailed with the same amount of power...either way you are utilizing outside influences to empower you...i still find it rather disheartening that so many people look to outside masters for their solutions rather than spending more time on improving themselves as a human to deal with what they need "magick" for.

But you are only talking about self help Jordyn.

That is nowhere near as impressive to the ego as wielding magic and conversing with demons/angels.

And that i fear is the root of all of this.