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Monstrous Music & Games => RPGs and Gaming => Topic started by: cheza on January 04, 2009, 12:50:08 PM
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hi i am new here but i have been searching the internet for what seems like an eternity for information on being a demon hunter at this point i am a practicing christian witch my specality is reading (tarot, angel cards, astrology, etc.) but i have had this feeling for a long time that i can do something more to help society it dawned on me that i want to be a demon hunter a spritual warrior getting rid of the evil in this world and sending the demons back to hell i know that this type of profession is dangerous and i will need alot of training i know this can''t happen overnite but i am ready to learn and to get started this is something i would like to do for the rest of my life along with my other magical duties i hope none here think i am crazy i have read some of the post and think that i am in the right spot to ask for this kind of information so if anyone could tell me how to become a demon hunter please let me know i am not under the illusion that it like the tv shows or something i know that this is a dirty dangerous job and that there is nothing glamourous about it but it something i feel i have been called to do i am not a phsyical fighter i don't know marshal arts or anything like that but i have faith in the magical power that god has blessed me with and my faith and anything else i am willing and ready to learn so if anyone knows anything please post at this point i am desperate and am thinking of just going out there and just jumping into this profession feet first and hope i land well now i dont if thats a stupid thing or if thats how all demon hunters get started i am just looking for a little knowledge can anyone help me thanks in advance
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I have a thread buried underneath the wreckage of activity on this section somewhere, you'd do good to read it, but let me just say a few things here...
Are you, at this age and time in your life, ready to throw away everything you know and love for this? You can put those close to you in harm, you will be ridiculed by some very harshly, you will be tormented by unimaginable forces, and most importantly, you may be forced to cross lines that no one should be forced to. If you can say yes to that, you've taken a step, but it's one thing to say, another to do.
But, I find that saying stuff like that never really helps. Most people just go out hunting anyway, despite (or perhaps due to) what everyone says, so I say, you might as well do it right.
The thread I wrote is entitled "To Hunt a Demon", if you want, let me know, and I'll post a link to it. I also find that there are few things to clear up between the both of us.
What do you, personally, mean by a Christian Witch? More oft than naught, those two titles cannot be put together. And, what drives you, as a Christian Witch, to believe in demons? And more specifically, what do you think they are? You may be mistaken in your belief, and that may change your mind altogether.
Now for my turn; If you get yourself into this, especially when dealing with things up close, you probably will need to get physical. As in, running for your life physical. And, going out and jumping into something isn't the brightest idea in the world, you usually wind up dead.
And, since I can scarcely find myself taking this very seriously, I must say, your typing skills make my head ache and the little voice reading them sound like a spoiled blonde rich girl. :P
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First, grow/cut your hair to about just past chin-length. Next, dye it silver. Next, get a red trenchcoat. Next, get a big-ass sword and two guns. POOF! You're Dante.
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4452/untitled1if1.jpg)
...okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. While hunting demons and monsters and **** would indeed be cool, I really feel you'd have to be like, super-strong. Like, super-duper strong. Like, Kid Goku-level strong. (Saying this, I'm actually crazy enough to ask God to make it so people can actually get that powerful.)
And if you don't mind me askin', Letter, could chi energy affect demons?
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Well Cheza... I have 2 say that Smithkakarot is quite right in some things... My sister is a demon hunter... And have been 3 years since the last time I saw her... Cuz when you made that desition you have to go away from your loved ones so they don't get hurt... But the thing is that you have to be extremely strong... Physical and spiritual to be able to figth with them... Question I ask you... do you have the gift of seeing the demons? or sence them?... Cuz if u can't do any of those things... you will have to take a lot of training... Cuz is not at easy as it sounds to figth with something you dont see.
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well i would like to thank everyone for their opinons and sorry my typing offends but trust me i am neither blonde or rich as matter of fact i am the exact opposite of both as far as being a christian witch who saids it has to be opposite i am strong in my beliefs i believe in one god and jesus christ as the bible has described him i also practice certian wiccan rituals and am a reader also i would like for you to repost that information about demon hunting as far as demons i think that they are evil creatures who prey on the humans i think they are dangerous, ugly, and most of all fatal as far as being able to sense a demon i guess i would have to say no i can't do that but i am not naive enough to believe that you can accomplish something like that overnite i want to train for as long as it takes also at this point no i am not physically strong but spritually is another matter i am working on my body now i know that i probably have a long ways to go but i am not giving up leaving my love ones well i am an only child, my mother is dead, and my father is dying, i have no husband, boyfriend, children and only a hand full of friends i barely associate with the rest of my family as it is a phone call once or twice a year just to let them know i am alive would probably be enough i think i am at a point in my life right now that the mundane isn't doing it working, going to school, struggling to pay bills being upset over little arguments frankly its all bulls**t excuse my language there is more to this life then that i truly believe that some of us are put here to protect others strangers that we don't even know getting rid of the evil that haunts this world that is what i belive i was put here for no path is ever easy but this is a path that is mine all i am doing is asking for some help on that path and if anyone can do that then i would be greatful
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Sorry for being blunt, but this lack of interpunction is really annoying. Please, do something about it. :roll:
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This is what I could get from what my sister left behind. Sorry if it is a little clumpsy it was kind of hard for me to translate. This was some basic steps and rules the mentor of my sister gave her. If he wasn't dead I would love to give you his number, but he's not among us anymore. So I really hope it could at least help you to start.
First of all you should know that a Spiritual Warrior (Demon Hunter) is a person either has physical or spiritual wisdom and knowledge. These people have been trained for years, even centuries (incarnations).
The steps are simple:
1 .- You must learn a martial art (kung fu, Tai Chi, Judo, Karate, etc.).
2 .- You must learn to use the katana (Japanese sword) or any other sword, whether Japanese or not.
3 .- Have total balance on your emotions and thoughts.
4 .- You must learn to control your impulses and personality.
5 .- Be clear about what you used and what does not work.
6 .- To know who can you trust and who not (or who is your friend and who is known).
7 .- Always respect other beliefs and opinions.
8 .- Always calm and at peace (it is very important because that is what you transmit to others).
9 .- Have a altar for some Archangel and greet him every day (that is important as they are the protectors of the Spiritual Warrior)
10 .- Always have very high values to follow.
11 .- Be sure of yourself.
12 .- Be faithful and respectful.
Remenber always to be patient. Don't let anything get you out of concentration. Always believe that you are stronger that what your facing, because if you let them think you are afraid, they gonna use your weakness to take advantage of you.
You need to be physical strong, because every fight will comsume your energy. And you have to learn how to control your breathing, to keep your energy level stable.
You need to be spiritual strong, because you can't face demons, who are the masters of deception and half-truths. Who know how to eat the mind, and if you are not sure about your reasons for fighting, they can play with your mind until you let go or you end up dead.
So always be strong in both ways. Trains not only your body, but also your mind. And more important remenber why you are doing this task. and who gives you the strength and the power to confront the evil forces of the world. And always give thanks and appreciation that without their assistance you had not been able to overcome.
Well this is all I could get for now. But as soon as I get my hand in more information I will let it get to you. Sorry againg for my english. Here in Puerto Rico is not our first language. Really hope it will help you. :-D
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First, grow/cut your hair to about just past chin-length. Next, dye it silver. Next, get a red trenchcoat. Next, get a big-ass sword and two guns. POOF! You're Dante.
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4452/untitled1if1.jpg)
...okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. While hunting demons and monsters and **** would indeed be cool, I really feel you'd have to be like, super-strong. Like, super-duper strong. Like, Kid Goku-level strong. (Saying this, I'm actually crazy enough to ask God to make it so people can actually get that powerful.)
And if you don't mind me askin', Letter, could chi energy affect demons?
this is the first good laugh i've had since saturday night, thank you.
and absolutely, the east has some intriguing understandings of spiritual energy.
as for the rest...
how would martial arts aside from the mental training work against non physical foes? the fit for energy does make sense though.
isn't the katana just another style of golden sword?
but generally there's some good advice in there, but why worship an archangel when simple prayer contacts it's Creator?
there are more basic and controllable methods for dealing with them, i suggest you understand the basics of interacting with them, unfortunately this is one pursuit where you have to intimately understand what your hunting to truly know what will work for you when dealing with them, they're not always anime beasts.
...each person has their own personal strength, find yours and where you draw if from and then you're ready to start this desire.
google demonology and seriously browse a lot of the back posts on this board while grounding your soul and your will...both suck to lose.
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Thank you guys this information is very valueable.
As far as the martial arts training I do understand the need to have physical strength, but I am kind of curious to understand the physical part of the demon hunt.
Will there actually be physical fighting?
I practice a form of angel magic so I am very aware of the arc angels and the one I call on the most of course is Micheal.
I will continue my research on demonology although so far what I have found is a bunch of fiction nothing based in reality.
I will go back and read some of the old post on this cite and try to gather some more information but I do thank everyone for their advice.
I hope my typing is better this time as it seems people sort of had a problem with it before.
I would like to continue to gather information so if anyone has anything else or knows of anyone that I may speak with please let me know.
Also if anyone knows of any cites that may have this kind of information thats based in reality I would appreciate you letting me know.
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deliriums realm, they're a bit more practical in their discussion with less glamorization concerning demonology, but have a lot of info on them.
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and absolutely, the east has some intriguing understandings of spiritual energy.
Cool. Next time I see a demon, I'm gonna go "KAMEHAMEHA!" and blast its top half off. *<:)
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and absolutely, the east has some intriguing understandings of spiritual energy.
Cool. Next time I see a demon, I'm gonna go "KAMEHAMEHA!" and blast its top half off. *<:)
And if you do this you would probably be toast. :laugh:
As for the general topic: I admit I don't know much about demons but I knew a friend who could see them and talk with them. She talked little on the subject but she said one thing to me, "Stay out of it. They're something you really don't want to get involved with." Forgive me if I say that I believe that you're taking this too lightly. Even if you aren't, you seem to be rushing things a lot. I think you should sit back and think about this a little more. And I must admit...your motives bother me slightly. A tiny thing you said sticks out in my mind as being a very big problem.Still, no matter what you do or choose, I wish you the best.
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First, grow/cut your hair to about just past chin-length. Next, dye it silver. Next, get a red trenchcoat. Next, get a big-ass sword and two guns. POOF! You're Dante.
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4452/untitled1if1.jpg)
...okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. While hunting demons and monsters and **** would indeed be cool, I really feel you'd have to be like, super-strong. Like, super-duper strong. Like, Kid Goku-level strong. (Saying this, I'm actually crazy enough to ask God to make it so people can actually get that powerful.)
And if you don't mind me askin', Letter, could chi energy affect demons?
Lol, dude. Anywho, to answer your question, I don't know too much about "chi" energy. I assume it is similar to the other oriental concept know as Chakra, so I guess I'd have to say "in a way". The brain is a very powerful tool; focus and concentration can do a lot more in the spiritual realm that most would think.
As to Rainbow's post, I don't see why a katana is neccessary, other than to look absolutely pwnsome in combat. As for martial arts/ the physical aspect of hunting, there might come a time when the possesed will retalliate against the exorcist. I guess a bit of kung-fu couldn't hurt, (no pun intended), so long as you don't direly injure the person.
That's pretty much all I can think up at this hour, and if my writing seems a bit informal, please excuse me, but frankly this time of night is when I'd rather be dead asleep. So...if I missed something let me know
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I think that chi has more to do with your inner energy, and chakras are like centers of it, but Im not sure... sorry....
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Well... I have to say that I really don't know why my sister mentor told her about the katana. But hey it doesn't hurt anybody to learn how to used one, you might need it some day.
I think that chi has more to do with your inner energy
This is what I found about the Chi, hope it helps.
References to things analogous to the qi (Chi) taken to be the life-process or “flow” of energy that sustains living beings are found in many belief systems, especially in Asia. Philosophical conceptions of qi date from the earliest recorded times in Chinese thinking. One of the important early cultural heroes in Chinese mythology is Huang Di (the Yellow Emperor). He is identified in the legends of China as the one who first collected and formalized much of what subsequently became known as traditional Chinese medicine.
The earliest extant book that speaks of qi is the Analects of Confoolwitius (composed from the notes of individual students some time after his death in 479 B.C.) Unlike the legendary accounts mentioned above, the Analects has a clear date in history, and most later books (at least the ones that do not purport to be relics of the legendary earliest rulers) can also be assigned clear dates in history.
Manfred Porkert described relations to Western universal concepts:
Within the framework of Chinese thought no notion may attain to such a degree of abstraction from empirical data as to correspond perfectly to one of our modern universal concepts. Nevertheless the term qi comes as close as possible to constituting a generic designation equivalent to our word "energy". When Chinese thinkers are unwilling or unable to fix the quality of an energetic phenomenon, the character qi 氣 inevitably flows from their brushes.[2]
Although the concept of qi has been very important within many Chinese philosophies, over the centuries their descriptions of qi have been varied and may seem to be in conflict with each other. Understanding of these disputes is complicated for people who did not grow up using the Chinese concept and its associated concepts. Until China came into contact with Western scientific and philosophical ideas (primarily by way of Catholic missionaries), they knew about things like stones and lightning, but they would not have categorized them in terms of matter and energy. Qi and li (理, li, pattern) are their fundamental categories much as matter and energy have been fundamental categories for people in the West. Their use of qi (lifebreath) and li (pattern, regularity, form, order) as their primary categories leaves in question how to account for liquids and solids, and, once the Western idea of energy came on the scene, how to relate it to the native idea of "qi". If Chinese and Western concepts are mixed in an attempt to characterize some of the problems that arise with the Chinese conceptual system, then one might ask whether qi exists as a "force" separate from "matter", whether qi arises from "matter", or whether "matter" arises from qi.
Hand written calligraphic Qi.Fairly early on, some Chinese thinkers began to believe that there are different fractions of qi (in the sense that different fractions can be extracted from crude oil in a catalytic cracker), and that the coarsest and heaviest fractions of qi form solid things such as rocks, the earth, etc., whereas lighter fractions form liquids, and the most ethereal fractions are the "lifebreath" that animates living beings.[3]
Yuán qì is a notion of "innate" or "pre-natal" qi to distinguish it from acquired qi that a person may develop of their lifetime.
This is the link if you want more info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%27i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%27i)
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Nice info, Rainbow! Thanks :wink:
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You welcome Nina. That's why we are here. To learn and help others learn as well. :wink:
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Lol, dude. Anywho, to answer your question, I don't know too much about "chi" energy. I assume it is similar to the other oriental concept know as Chakra, so I guess I'd have to say "in a way". The brain is a very powerful tool; focus and concentration can do a lot more in the spiritual realm that most would think.
From what I understand, chi/prana is the energy, while meridians/chakras are the channels through which this energy flows. I could be wrong, however.
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I have heard or read that chi energy or chakra energy can be used to sense demons as well as fight them.
I do not know how true that is but I am in the process of researching and I will let you know that I find out.
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Thank you guys this information is very valueable.
As far as the martial arts training I do understand the need to have physical strength, but I am kind of curious to understand the physical part of the demon hunt.
Will there actually be physical fighting?
I practice a form of angel magic so I am very aware of the arc angels and the one I call on the most of course is Micheal.
I will continue my research on demonology although so far what I have found is a bunch of fiction nothing based in reality.
I will go back and read some of the old post on this cite and try to gather some more information but I do thank everyone for their advice.
I hope my typing is better this time as it seems people sort of had a problem with it before.
I would like to continue to gather information so if anyone has anything else or knows of anyone that I may speak with please let me know.
Also if anyone knows of any cites that may have this kind of information thats based in reality I would appreciate you letting me know.
You spelled Arch in archangel wrong. Now on to my two cents!
My dear, what do you think katas are for? you can really expect to sit down, chant some crap and exorcise and slay demons can you?
Honestly, when you have formal martial arts training, these routines eventually become second nature, this is why styles like tai chi chuan give such great calm to thier practitioners, its meditation in motion. A sort of secondary focus for when your conscious mind gives. It reinforces your will like inorganic armor because it path has been paved by your practice and you don't build a road in the middle of battle.
i guess what i'm trying to say is, aside from the breathing techniques some styles give, it is away to keep your focus strong and your ego in check, while not shutting down your your emotions and drive.
Wait..... hold up.
How were you planning on hunting demons again? Please explain.
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hi i am new here but i have been searching the internet for what seems like an eternity for information on being a demon hunter at this point i am a practicing christian witch my specality is reading (tarot, angel cards, astrology, etc.) but i have had this feeling for a long time that i can do something more to help society it dawned on me that i want to be a demon hunter a spritual warrior getting rid of the evil in this world and sending the demons back to hell i know that this type of profession is dangerous and i will need alot of training i know this can''t happen overnite but i am ready to learn and to get started this is something i would like to do for the rest of my life along with my other magical duties i hope none here think i am crazy i have read some of the post and think that i am in the right spot to ask for this kind of information so if anyone could tell me how to become a demon hunter please let me know i am not under the illusion that it like the tv shows or something i know that this is a dirty dangerous job and that there is nothing glamourous about it but it something i feel i have been called to do i am not a phsyical fighter i don't know marshal arts or anything like that but i have faith in the magical power that god has blessed me with and my faith and anything else i am willing and ready to learn so if anyone knows anything please post at this point i am desperate and am thinking of just going out there and just jumping into this profession feet first and hope i land well now i dont if thats a stupid thing or if thats how all demon hunters get started i am just looking for a little knowledge can anyone help me thanks in advance
A Christian Witch? That is an oxymoron my dear. Magic comes from its dark master regardless of the label good or bad, as sure as a chicken lays an egg. If you are reading tarots and the like you are already on the path towards the thing you want to hunt. Dont worry witches naturally attract unclean spirits they will in time find you and likely make you a fun new toy. As well as this any real hunter knows it is completely impossible for a human to "slay" a demon, theyre spirit creatures they can be sent away but not killed and are extremely dangerous. Its best not to venture into thier territory. If you want to live anyway.... novices should stay clear this is not a came... you can end up dead or worse.....
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...and one little delusion-monkey said to the other, "My delusion is more real than yours because I said so."
The other little delusion-monkey proclaimed likewise, and they beat the holy living fuckballs out of each other while the zoo-keeper, Mr. Skeptic, grinned at the furry little retards and their meaningless antics.
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...and one little delusion-monkey said to the other, "My delusion is more real than yours because I said so."
The other little delusion-monkey proclaimed likewise, and they beat the holy living fuckballs out of each other while the zoo-keeper, Mr. Skeptic, grinned at the furry little retards and their meaningless antics.
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HAhaha dont do that you made me laugh, do you know how much that hurts with a stony face like mine? :-D
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Nagt, you have honestly just opened a can of worms on this forum that you did NOT want to open. Just giving you a heads-up.
To be quite frank, I am virtually speechless. Not because I lack things to say, but because there are too MANY things to say.
It all depends on your definition of magic. I guess you figure the Pope is doomed to damnation too, right? He has magic that is from God Almighty himself.
Oh well, I'll take a step back. You may want to watch yourself... And, Cheza, you have a noble intention, but be careful what you wish for because it might come true.
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Gnat here's porbably chuging jaegermiesters like there's no tomorrow, Wow.
Anyway, what is magic my friend? is it the ability to influence probability and reality with your will? is it the sigining of contracts to beings, fae, divine and infernal? is it smoke and mirrors? Or is it merely knowledge waiting to be discovered and studied like a field of sciencE?
...and one little delusion-monkey said to the other, "My delusion is more real than yours because I said so."
The other little delusion-monkey proclaimed likewise, and they beat the holy living fuckballs out of each other while the zoo-keeper, Mr. Skeptic, grinned at the furry little retards and their meaningless antics.
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HAhaha dont do that you made me laugh, do you know how much that hurts with a stony face like mine? :-D
See here noob, just cause you got yer face over-botoxed, don't mean you can whine like a drama queen.
You've got a beef with da roman Catholics ? go change your religion or go gnostic not our problem.. you curse magic and all its forms, sure no big deal . but telling a girl she is damned because some book compiled and edited by a bunch of psychotic power seekers, that wanted to spread thier own bull, and ensnare the minds of the gullible. Thats just silly and sorely lacking. can you say medieval witch hunts?
People have beliefs, and their ways are not yours. who are you to condemn them? what is your purpose?
You tryin to be a troll? TRY HARDER, small timers like you irritate us, at the very least try being original and painful.
You're starting to look like a mindless sheep, cursing and and berating without giving reason...... Well dis is da mad cowl level baby!!!!! PWNNNAGE!!!
(PS: thank youuuu!!!! this topic got boring, thanks for breathing some life back into it. can't say the others like your methods though)
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In Nagt Jagter's defense, I fell compelled to point out that his comments, as heartless and judgemental as they might seem, simply mirror the traditional Christian stand on those who practice magic which does not seem to directly stem from the Christian god. The currently existing version of the Bible is quite explicit on this matter, stating that all witches must be stoned without exception. Given that the majority of Christians regard this text as the ultimate authority on the nature of their god, his objections to cheza's claims are not entirely baseless.
However, with that said, it must be understood that as of yet, magic, demons and gods alike are purely abstact concepts with precious little in the way of hard proof to validate their existence. Is it possible to even hunt something that might be purely the product of a society's collective imagination? And does the same hold true with magic and gods? In light of this fact, all perspectives offered on this matter are equally plausible and impossible.
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Your words on magic, demons, and gods are true, but the same, in my opinion, applies to justice; It all comes down to faith and point of view, doesn't it?
What defines Justice, then? Is it not as abstract a concept as the things we discuss here? Some might say that oen who steals deserves to have his hands cut off, and they say that is justice, yet others say that simply locking the thief away for a few years is justice. Some say the taking of life is never justified, yet others say that it is True Justice. Is it possible for us humans to perform an action that is only the product of the majority's collective imagination?
Even though our views may differ on these topics, there is nothing to say that it doesn't exist. In fact, the simple fact that people do believe in some other force and some other power should be enough to at least acknowledge the existence of such.
In conclusion, I find no real need to point out the lack of evidence on any subject here; especially taking into consideration the very title of this thread. Your skepticism is welcome, I suppose, but don't try and stir up doubt with a believer; it usually doesn't end well. Make your own thread for that.
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i agree with him, for the christian witch statement, i've never ever felt that that those who worship a God that insists He's the only one that does any of that stuff, so why associate oneself with the very arts He condemned?
sure, the arguement that they "draw their power from God" is an excuse to justify they're in the free and clear, but if they draw the power from Adonai, why do they need the title of witch, isn't humble servent well enough?
moses was never a witch, noah, david or any of the other heroes and patriarchs ever claimed to derive their power from anything other than serving their Lord and the one that did go to a witch to get advice was defeated(solomon i believe)
what's the point of attaching witch to a christian title when in all except their own mind and a handful of websites justify the term...it's like saying i'm a christian that believes in reincarnation and burns incense to meditate on the wisdom of hindu gods.
it's not worshiping them, it's meditating on their wisdom...big difference.
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Is it possible for us humans to perform an action that is only the product of the majority's collective imagination?
Well I don't know...How's about you mosey on down to your church to get an answer to that one, pinwheel?
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I nver used the word damnation or damned, I am merely stating that the fruitage of her labor may produce undesirable results.
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While you may not have used the word, the spirit of it is evident in your message. telling her how she would become a sex-toy for a bunch of demons is highly frowned upon...... and the way you said it seems like you were taking pleasure in the thought. You sick bastard.
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While you may not have used the word, the spirit of it is evident in your message. telling her how she would become a sex-toy for a bunch of demons is highly frowned upon...... and the way you said it seems like you were taking pleasure in the thought. You sick bastard.
New toy refered to her being a slave to them it didnt not necisarily mean in a sexual way, I only happened to think of it when you mentioned it. So you are evidently sicker than me. As well as that I would never relish anyone being sexually abused regardless of who they are, how vile of you to think so, so keep your trap shut.
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Simmer down okay! Let's help the person be a demon hunter or try to deter him/her from doing so, not insult each other. :focus:
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Simmer down okay! Let's help the person be a demon hunter or try to deter him/her from doing so, not insult each other. :focus:
Forgive my hot headedness I apologize.
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While you may not have used the word, the spirit of it is evident in your message. telling her how she would become a sex-toy for a bunch of demons is highly frowned upon...... and the way you said it seems like you were taking pleasure in the thought. You sick bastard.
but, that's what females are for...to lure in the more rational minded men, the demons don't want to have sex, they get their fix from the energy it generates, but a girl serving one quickly embraces any confusion she has about sexuality. they take pleasure in the thought, they make us believe the pleasure is ours...i could go into detail as to exactly what most devils expect from the females that serve them, been there, done that and thankfully i was rescued from my delusion of being a good person while offering my body to be used as a tool to feed the beast.
and i still don't think anyone mortal can hunt, destroy or end their existence in our plane...simply send them on their way, unless a divine being intercedes, but that would have to be their creator, where do they come from?
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What defines Justice, then? Is it not as abstract a concept as the things we discuss here? Some might say that oen who steals deserves to have his hands cut off, and they say that is justice, yet others say that simply locking the thief away for a few years is justice. Some say the taking of life is never justified, yet others say that it is True Justice. Is it possible for us humans to perform an action that is only the product of the majority's collective imagination?
Justice is simply a concept created by a particular society in order to better regulate the lives of the collective masses. As such, you are right in implying that its existence cannot be taken for granted, since where one individual sees it, another is concious only of its absence. The same by extension, must hold true for the other abstract concepts that have been mentioned in this thread, since unlike physical phenomena such as rain or fire, they cannot be seen, felt or heard. And thus, I for my part, do not wish to unquestioningly acknowledge the veracity of these two ideas which exist only for the ones that choose to see them. That is my personal choice and I recognize it as such. So, to answer your question, I must give a carefully nuanced answer and admit that only a particular understanding of the concept justice can ever be ''served'', since justice as an undeniable fact simply dosen't exist.
Even though our views may differ on these topics, there is nothing to say that it doesn't exist. In fact, the simple fact that people do believe in some other force and some other power should be enough to at least acknowledge the existence of such.
That is a flawed line of logic. Blind, unsubstantiated convinction does not alter the ultimate reality which operates beyond our own personal and narrow understanding of the world. As much as I might believe otherwise, the earth revolves around the world and not vice versa. The same holds true for flying monkeys and the spaghetti monster. They have their believers too, but nevertheless, their existence is still far from plausible
In conclusion, I find no real need to point out the lack of evidence on any subject here; especially taking into consideration the very title of this thread. Your skepticism is welcome, I suppose, but don't try and stir up doubt with a believer; it usually doesn't end well. Make your own thread for that.
I was merely pointing out the fallacy of anyone assuming that any one particular idea that has been expressed so far is somehow more valid than other, opposing ideas that might be offered. This is a certainty, given the intangible nature of the concepts that we discuss. I assure you that I have not the slightest interest in seeking to persuade you to abandon your faith and the associated concepts that come with it.
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O-o...pwnt...
But anywho,
No comment on the first bit since it appears you at least somewhat agree
The second bit: I was generalizing. Religion revolves around some higher power, so I say that should be taken into mind. So many religions with so many believers all believing a relative idea of a deity; it must exist. As to flying monkeys...don't bash on Oz, man, that's like my favorite movie. (aside from The Dark Knight, of course.)
As for that last bit, don't worry, my faith is not easily wavered and I wasn't reffering to it; I was reffering to others', namely Cheza. And if you did mean that no idea was above another, I'm sorry, I just assumed that you were reffering to a completely idea other than this...Nagt character...since you said "however." My mistake, I'll read more carefully in the future.
And to add a little something to post to not make it completely irrelavant to a person wanting to become a "demon hunter", I think it is appropriate to reccomend Solomon's Key, The Seal of Solomon, and all that demon summoning jazz, especially given that you are a "christian witch." Which, no pun intended, I still have not come to an at least twisted conclusion to in my mind.
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While you may not have used the word, the spirit of it is evident in your message. telling her how she would become a sex-toy for a bunch of demons is highly frowned upon...... and the way you said it seems like you were taking pleasure in the thought. You sick bastard.
but, that's what females are for...to lure in the more rational minded men, the demons don't want to have sex, they get their fix from the energy it generates, but a girl serving one quickly embraces any confusion she has about sexuality. they take pleasure in the thought, they make us believe the pleasure is ours...i could go into detail as to exactly what most devils expect from the females that serve them, been there, done that and thankfully i was rescued from my delusion of being a good person while offering my body to be used as a tool to feed the beast.
and i still don't think anyone mortal can hunt, destroy or end their existence in our plane...simply send them on their way, unless a divine being intercedes, but that would have to be their creator, where do they come from?
Very true, anyone that knows ( I mean reallky knows not thinks they know) will know it is impossible ofr a puny human to kill a demon. I am glad that you are free from thier evil embrace.
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Very true, anyone that knows ( I mean reallky knows not thinks they know) will know it is impossible ofr a puny human to kill a demon. I am glad that you are free from thier evil embrace.
Ah, but who said we were human? <^>
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You sorely underestimate the potential of the human spirit my friend. Demons are strong yes, but humans have an almost limitless potential that they have yet to tap into. Some have started to try, and are on the right path but no human has tapped their full potential yet.
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Mmmmmmm well I cant see it being the case at all. But ....all to thier own.
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Mmmmmmm well I cant see it being the case at all. But ....all to thier own.
That's because you can't see the forest for the trees. For you, it's all about the size of your own steeple.
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Mmmmmmm well I cant see it being the case at all. But ....all to thier own.
That's because you can't see the forest for the trees. For you, it's all about the size of your own steeple.
Did you imply that he had a big forehead?
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I don't think he's figured out how to listen yet, but he will learn one day....hopefully, and if not, not my problem *<:)
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Okay, let's get back to topic! And if you are a visual person... :focus: :focus: :focus:
Demon hunting! Any tips, tricks, experiences that may help anyone that wants to hunt a demon, or should we end the thread here?
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I say we kill it now, and if anyone else has relevant comments and such they can make a new thread.
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This isn't a joke if your human stay out of it if you have powers you should use them to help people and don't risk losing everything and everyone you love stay out of it this is a warning I can force you to stop
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This isn't a joke if your human stay out of it if you have powers you should use them to help people and don't risk losing everything and everyone you love stay out of it this is a warning I can force you to stop
and this type of advice is why this sort of topic is perfect for the roleplaying board!
whitewolf has an amazing demon book to, i created a wonderful scourge character, inspired by a sabbat gameplayers guidebook that had a mini story to run in it.