[sarimau]

uhm, do werewolves have a king, or a savior, or something else which can be called a superior?

who's the boss? 

[Aniyu]

In a way. Some have an "alpha" so to speak. Though this person they respect and listen to usually without question. A dominace battle of the subconscience. We know, but we don't know how we know.

[SherlawkDragon]

uhm, do werewolves have a king, or a savior, or something else which can be called a superior?
who's the boss?

You are the boss.  Even members of Therian Temple can do whatever they want (they just get thrown out if they do something really bad, like breaking the law).  If you're in a group that tries to tell you that you should listen to someone, rather than question them, then it's a cult and it's almost certainly dangerous.  Weres, in reality, have no "leader" as a group.  We DO, however, have leaders in a community sense: people who are well known and active.  An example is my were-pal Wolf VanZandt, who is extremely well known inside and even outside the community (he's more open about it in his community than I am), and takes a leadership role in the community (and has a group of "followers", mainly the super-Christian groups).  Now, even there, he's not an "unquestionable leader", in fact, most people who have never talked to him think he's "crazy" or " a Christian extremist".  He's only a popular and influential guy, not a "king".
Now, in the way of fictional werewolves (I feel like bringing them up lately), that's a matter of who's writing the story.  "Underworld" says they have a loose pack structure, "Van-Helsing" says they're controlled by vampires, "I was a teenaged werewolf" (closest of all those to reality) portrays it as an "every were for themself" type situation.

In a way. Some have an "alpha" so to speak. Though this person they respect and listen to usually without question.

You're half right there: Alphas exist in packs, covens, and on forums.  Basically, people do follow them, alot of the time without question, but that's not really their "purpose", so to speak.  They aren't meant to be unquestioned, only a leadership, directing their pack about on issues.

A dominace battle of the subconscience. We know, but we don't know how we know.

What?

[Aniyu]

A dominace battle. When you meet someone you know almost immediatly if they are more domminate than you. Sometimes you don't know how you know that, because your subconscience knows.

Sherlawk is right though. Most of the time its every were for themselves, though there is a loose amount of "pack-ness".  some weres, if they realize it or not, make the people around them their pack though this isn't always the case.

Some people just have a commanding presence others don't

[sarimau]

do the replies means that it is in you whoever you believe to be the superior?

hmm..maybe equality?

You are the boss.  Even members of Therian Temple can do whatever they want (they just get thrown out if they do something really bad, like breaking the law).  If you're in a group that tries to tell you that you should listen to someone, rather than question them, then it's a cult and it's almost certainly dangerous.  Weres, in reality, have no "leader" as a group. 

hmm..so, what is the better? to h ave a group or not?

and one more thing? if there is a variation in being the superior, how about having a "slave" thing..sort of under your superiority? what can you tell?

tnx..

[Omnipotent]

Haha, oh wow. To believe that anyone could really be "The Alpha" or something in that direction.

No damn it, be your own leader. Live your own life and follow your own rules, where is your pride?

Now stand tall or tuck that tail between your legs and get out of my sight. haha.
I'm not in some kind of a group or anything myself, nor would i want to. Just a heads up, avoid it...
Its full of arrogant pricks anyway, claiming to be your friend.

Also, being superior.. hmm. Guess I'm pretty far beyond that word. But otherwise i wish you the best of luck Sarimau.
But ontop of what i said, if you think you need some kind of protection from a more superior being or whatever it is,
then I would advice that, but with extreme caution. You don't want to end up like some people, in prison.. for example.


Omni.

[sarimau]

oh..maybe, i can look for the good guys to end not in prison like what you said..^_^

i just a little curious and,

for your info,

i can stand on my own..^_^

[Aniyu]

Its good to stand on your own.  I stand on my own, but i have a friend that is more dominate than i. If she wants to know something i usually don't deny it too long. For example i messed up my hand a while ago and when i returned to her presence she demanded to see my hand and eventually i let her see it, good thing cuz i had broken a knuckle and had a small boxers fracture.

No one is a "leader" cept in serious cults. Though i am part of a loose knit pack type thing. If you could call it that. When some of us are together we just feel safer.

[sarimau]

hmm..

so..

it doesn't matter who dominates the other..what matters is if we are ready to help one another..

haha..

nice..^_^

[Aniyu]

You could say something like that.

I believe there is a superior, but let me explain carefully what i mean by this so as to avoid confusion.

Many people have had so called experiences of something they called God. Often it appeared as a human of towering proportions or an infinite light of love compassion wisdom etc etc. Not always but often.

I would say that these people merely encountered 'the superior' of humans. It is like a mold that reflects all human possibilities and makes us what we are.

I found out many years ago about a certain tribe living in the amazon that under the influence of certain process and plants journey to 'the great tree'. Whilst in the presence of 'the great tree' they felt pretty groovy and found out some funky stuff.
I would say that this tribe encountered 'the superior' of trees. Again this is just a mold that reflects all vegetal possibilities.

So you ask about a wolf superior and i would say that there is one. An experience of something that reflects and contains all the possibilities of wolf being.

The whole idea of these superior forms is very similar to aboriginal myths involving the original animals in the dreaming. Under certain conditions it is possible to encounter these things. Typically since we are humans we tend to encounter the superior of humans. There are quite a few people who could tell you exactly what that felt like. In fact most people who have had profound religious experiences. They will try and tell you that it was the all divine powerful creator blah blah blah.
But you know better now, dont you?

[sarimau]

hmmm, one factor to treat someone a superior is

when there is something you crave or want

and because of believing of that someone as your superior and helps you to get want you want..

hmm, you believe in him, in that, in some way, you treat him as your superior..

as for the weres, superiority depends on us..

as for humans, that' their nature..there must be a god for them..

Thank the great wolf spirit that someone actually reads my rubbish.
I'd better answer this privately lest we hijack the thread Kreeps.
After all it is meant to be a question about a potential wolf superior being.

[Omnipotent]

hmmm, one factor to treat someone a superior is

when there is something you crave or want

and because of believing of that someone as your superior and helps you to get want you want..

hmm, you believe in him, in that, in some way, you treat him as your superior..

as for the weres, superiority depends on us..

as for humans, that' their nature..there must be a god for them..

Funny, God left this place a long time ago.

[sarimau]

how come?

elaboration?