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Monstropedia => Forbidden Archaeology => Topic started by: Hak on January 02, 2009, 06:47:52 AM
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Well this temple isn't so much as new as it is that some people just found out about it. In 1905, the Phoenix Gazette printed out an article about the Temple of Isis. This temple is located somewhere in the Grand Canyon. The Smithsonian has full jurisdiction of the temple and is not making it public for anyone to see it. As a matter of fact they are not talking about it. However, to my surprise a 2 hour TV movie was done on it with character Michael Shank from Stargate. So go figure. I know that if you google Temple of Isis in Grand Canyon, you'll find some stuff on what I am saying. According to some of my other resources, the 13th crystal skull is located their...... That is all I am going to on the matter.
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the temple of isis? how did ancient egyptian worship reach as far west as north america?
is this supposed to be a hoax?
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its not a temple to isis thats crap its just another pueblo location and it has many artifacts that they don't want damaged and the Native Hopi and Zuni people are claiming it. Its a combination of a native american religious site and the government and archaeological preservation all fighting about it. I agree with them no public should go in until they can excavate it properly with the correct route of going through the Native American representatives.
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What is the proof that this alleged temple is Hopi? Consider the possibility that it is actually the Temple of Isis. I too can corroborate with the original poster on the matter. Because their is an article that supports the story of there being a Temple of Isis somewhere in the Grand Canyon. This article is called the Phoenix Gazette. Look it up yourself.
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I found the article and it was written in 1909. They went and investigated the location that was named and there is no evidence of any person(s) being there or inhabiting that area. Secondly there is a specific peak in the grand canyon that is called the Isis temple and also one called the Budda temple because of its unique geological structure looking like it is a building ontop a peak from far away but when close it is just a natural formation common to that region of the old west. There is are no temples of isis pre 20th century out west.
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According to my sources at the Smithsonian, there is in fact a temple of Isis in the Grand Caynon. The Smithsonian has complete control and jurisdiction in that area, and to trespass would be considered a federal offense. They knew about this spot for some time now. As far as the Buddha Temple you mentioned over there, well I think you are making that up to try and lower the idea that Egypt could have made its way to the Americas. I was never trying to take anything away from Native American history, but whether you believe me or not is of no matter to me, or anyone for that matter. I have something more than words, I have proof and facts to back what I am saying. I suppose truth at times can be the biggest deception, because most of the time when truth is smacking someone in their faces, they tend to not believe it. Believe the lie is always easier.
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Would you mind sharing those sources with us? And by sources, I mean peer-reviewed articles from reputable archaeological journals as opposed to shadowy figures involved in some mysterious conspiracy that only you and few others within a highly exclusive circle are aware of. By the way, contrary to your assertion, a geographical feature known as the ‘’Buddha Temple’’ does indeed exist.
http://www.worldofstock.com/closeups/TAU1655.php (http://www.worldofstock.com/closeups/TAU1655.php)
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http://www.rense.com/general6/egy.htm (http://www.rense.com/general6/egy.htm)
http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/canyon.txt (http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/canyon.txt)
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My sources I am referring to are real people, contacts, professors who not only work for the Smithsonian but other Universities as well Government sources..... As far as articles are concerned, well do the research online yourself. Did you know that some of the archaeological work done, is from behind a desk on a computer browsing the internet.
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Magnus Crane, any conspiracy nut can post an article online about a subject that he knows utterly nothing about. So once again I ask you, do you have any peer reviewed sources that have been vetted by the larger archaeological community? Really, all you have to do is give me the name of a widely respected archaeological journal that has published articles about Egyptian temples in the Grand Canyon. I'll do the rest myself.
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Not all information is publicly recorded..............
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Not all information is publicly recorded.............. Not all archeaological finds are public as well. Some are government or private. Which means all information cannot be easily leaked or released. Understand, I am not here to prove anything to you or anyone else. I write what I know and you are welcomed to do whatever you want with that info... Have fun.
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Also to add further, I was able to get in touch with the archive department of the Phoenix Gazette and got a hold of a copy of that specific article with everything about the Temple in the Grand Canyon. So again, I have all the proof I need and I am not inclined to verify myself to anyone. Do the research for yourself if you really want to know the same thing I know. It sounds like you are depending on me to provide you with proof and do all the homework for you. Sorry it doesn't work that way. Good luck on your search.
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Its a load of crock. I have talked to reputable archaeologists that work in that region and the ones who heard about it said it doesn't exist and it is not really a temple. When you go there someday take pictures and post them
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What y'all have said to magnus is a fact if someone wanted to save face then they would represent.
Example: I haven't even done any research on the matter and i know of the whole Antarctica was Atlantis conspiracy were it was claimed that the Chinese and mayans descended from Atlantis and thats why they both had stated that 2012 was the "end of the great cycle". Also pointing out that psychics such as Edgar cayace had said Atlantis was destroyed by their own devises with a power equivalent to ours using crystals.
Hak had mentioned one of the 13 skull crystals had been mentioned in his original post. Since the crystal skull is there its north of the mayans it was considered a temple which advanced civilizations were known for and it was recently discovered i can add it to my completely bogus brain haired scheme.
you know why i can't give results to these findings?
:-D
i made it all up.
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We all have spoken to reputable archeaologist, supposedly. Again, I have proof beyond just mere articles. As for pictures, I have that as well, and they are right up close, with my own camera. So yes I have the proof I need.
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Yet, like Ladygriffin said, you still haven't shown us that proof. Until then, you could very well be making it all up. If someone says "Show me proof," saying "I have it," isn't worth anything; you have to actually show it, since already your word isn't trusted. I mean, you've supposedly spoken to archeologists, so you should know how it works. Do they go up to make an announcement without any proof of their discovery? Of course not, if they did it would just obviously be complete bulls**t. (And as far as anyone here's concerned, that's what your claims are until you can show proof.)
If you don't wanna show the proof you have, then sorry buddy, but that's utter BS in my book.
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Actually I have spoken to reputable archaeologists at my college and other local colleges within Ohio to be specific. They said your crazy and to stop dwelling on people who try to make claims because of their own inconsistent desires for attention, specifically dealing with wanting to give something interesting and fun to the field or just want to be the center of attention. If it was a different case like aliens or conspiracies then I wouldn't have a problem with it. It is just that I know for a fact that this is not true and it just makes incorrect information available to the public, in which they may think it to be true because they don't know the truth. Kind of like movies. Some people watch a historical based movie and believe that some of the information is true, like Schindlers list in that people believed that the main guy helping the jews was a good man, in real life he was the opposite and a very greedy man.
The point being if you will not make public the proof then it is not reputable and cannot be tested, therefore you are making a falsified claim which is frowned upon by the scholars and given incorrect information to the public. As an archaeologist this is one of the major problems we have with people still today. Knowing that this place was a falsified claim to begin with to make tourism start in the area for an economic benefit, the historical evaluation of this area is known.
Give valid proof then I might reevaluate my ideas. No proof, then don't make a claim because it is a waste of time and integrity. You just need to understand that this is the only way I can weed out information and crazy claims.
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Apparently you ( rave phillaphia ) believe what I am saying or you would not have went through the time, effort, energy and trouble to speak with a reputable archaeologist to find out if they believe it or not. Argue this as much as it pleases you. Again, you don't have to believe anything you don't want to believe. Its up to you or anyone else to do that. I was simply writing what I directly experience and saw for my own self. Trying to prove something to you will the last thing on my agenda. So have fun in not believing..... :-P
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actually it came up in lecture about why archaeologists get a bad rep due to falsified claims and how beliefs in paranormal activity affect the facts given to us. For example another thing that came up was how some believe aliens built the pyramids. My professor listed a whole bunch of places within the United States that were famous scandals which this place happens to be one.
I wish it could be true, that would be awesome but the fact is that it is a lie. If you had pics of this place you should have posted them by now so I do not believe it to be true. No facts, no evidence and falsified claims = lie
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I will tell u a definite truth, you are very hot, if that is an actual pic of you. As for what I was talking about, well I am just done entertaining the matter. I really am done because we can honestly go back and forth but it would be pointless, wouldn't it? But damn u r extremely hot. WOW and 10 thumbs up on your looks. DAMMMMMM!!!
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I confirmed with a fellow professor that I just came back from a dig, and he is saying that this temple is genuine. I provided him with my lead to see if it was a fake, and come to find out it wasn't a fake at all, because he has the same piece of information that got me curious and also got him first curious. So if someone wants to carry on and spill out doubts, then that is OK as well. But I now have hard proof that this is real......
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Any ideas on when this ''hard proof'' will be made available to members of the public?
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MAGNUSCRANE
You sir have now attracted my attention. First off I will address this statement.
I will tell u a definite truth, you are very hot, if that is an actual pic of you. As for what I was talking about, well I am just done entertaining the matter. I really am done because we can honestly go back and forth but it would be pointless, wouldn't it? But damn u r extremely hot. WOW and 10 thumbs up on your looks. DAMMMMMM!!!
First off this has not a dam thing to do with the topic, for another it is a direct violation of this forums rules! Terms and Conditions, Para. 3 Part 7.
7. Suggestive behavior: Do not post sexually suggestive comments, innuendo or engage in inappropriate sexually oriented personal exchanges or harassment; purely personal correspondences should always be kept private. First and foremost this site is intended for discussion on topical subjects, the services provided should not be used as a means with which to seek out or pursue intimate relationships; bringing up personal relationships, disputes or engaging in competitive, possessive, disruptive or inappropriate behavior in that regard is disallowed.
I do expect and will receive from you a P.M. asking for Raves forgiveness (that means you P.M. her and CC myself) or I will strongly urge that you be banned for an as of yet predetermined amount of time. You have 1 week from this post to comply.
As for providing proof? Well you can not provide what you do not possess can you? Good thing I do not need to rely upon self importaint fools such as yourself to gather such information. Here I provide to all in the community some interesting information concerning this topic.
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/text/0000tx09x.html (http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/text/0000tx09x.html)
In the above link you will find both references, phone contact, specific names of previous researchers, and even a few mathematical equations. May it provide more fuel to this conversation. You see Magnuscrane, those who research archeology do so to share what they find with others in an effort to help educate people both about the past and the truth. Those who claim that they can not share what they have found are blatant liars looking simply for attention. And before you say "But they had to" I will ask why then did they tell a worm such as you? If the trouble they can get in is so potent that to simply speak of it could cause then any form of retribution why did they tell you? Because you already knew? If this were the case then you too would also be under the curtain of secrecy and even hinting that you knew something about it on a public forum would cause you to become subject to the same punishments. Working for the DOD I knew quite a bit about secrecy clauses. So not I do not believe a dam thing you have to say. So far the only thing you have shown is how much of a Horses A!! you truly are. Shape up or ship-out Magnuscrane, these are at this point are your only options. I hope I am making myself sufficiently clear to you.
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Please make Loki aware of this also, we will then review this matter and make a decision on MCs conduct/post
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Written and sent.
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Getting back to topic, The Department of the Interior has made it plain that anything Ancient and in the South Western United States is Anasazi that is text book. Their culture reached from the four corner region down into mexico. Anthing that may or not be there is credited to them. They are not here to answer for what they built or left behind. Sounds pretty cut and dry to me.