Straight off the bat, don’t take my skepticism as a personal attack =) I don’t mean to critique you as a person or as a human being who in all likelihood I would consider a wonderful individual and conversationalist in real life – I am purely critiquing your ideas. I don’t want to claim that my ideas are superior to yours, just that I have doubts based on your lack of evidence or the existence of counter-evidence.
Well first what evidence is there that these did not exist?
That’s fallacious logic, and an attempt to shift the burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges.
Mind boggling to us does not mean a very long time ago people could not comprehend and do things we would be beyond stunned to see.
Such as? Sure, ancient civilizations were far more capable than many people might believe, but this isn’t evidence of superior science or lost wisdoms.
There are people who have seen and do know what is out there and around us. They have been in all sorts of posts and have risked and died to hide things and expose them.
Says who? What things?
That "wasteland" was not always a desert at all it was completely different. Climates and Earth changes such as an ice age not to mention the sinking to the deepest of waters of lands and rising of land have changed the planet so much. Not even the North or South poles are then what they are now. Land masses have split through time as well.
You’re mixing and matching your claims to fit your conclusion here. It doesn’t matter that there has been change in climate, or flora and fauna, or even in the position of landmasses over millions of years. For oil deposits to exist now, we know that an area must have been rich in organic material 250 million years ago… but the earliest evidence of humanoids in the middle east region dates from the – in geological terms – extremely recent Paleolithic period (100,000-10,000 BCE). The middle east’s climate hasn’t changed much, in comparative terms, since then…
With regard to the poles, the last geomagnetic reversal occurred around 780,000 years ago – anatomically modern humans didn’t occur until 200,000 years ago.
We all are conditioned as children through are entire lives to believe that it cannot be possible unless someone who has the right professional pedigree (pedigree is the only word I can think of right now no offense meant) tells us it's true.
It has nothing to do with the “right person” or their professional credentials: either a conclusion is the result of good science, or it isn’t.
America has been visited by Vikings, Europeans and the Chinese long before Columbus.
You state this as though it were fact. While we now have evidence of Norse settlements dating to the 10th century in Greenland, and also in Newfoundland, there is no evidence – only unsupported conjecture – of other Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact from Europe. Likewise, the China hypothesis is unproven, has yet to be backed by any evidence, and is considered by mainstream historians to be completely fictitious.
Look into the European Renaissance it happened not long after a diplomatic visit of the greatest of all minds and people from Asia. Considered to be mainly a Chinese diplomatic mission other races of people were probably present too. They taught what they knew to people spending a long time in Europe before leaving. Not long after the great minds of Renaissance began to gain fame sadly mainly European white minds got all the credit.
Ah, this and your previous claim about the discovery of the Americas now makes sense: you have read Gavin Menzies’ books
1421: The Year China Discovered The World and
1434: The Year a Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance, both of which have been dismissed by historians who have examined his claims as “historical fiction.” Menzies is a crank who has made millions from these controversial books, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his next one was titled
1451: The Year a Chinese Rocket First Landed on the Moon… He writes in a convincing style, and revisionist-history has been popular for quite some time – it is easy to take his assertions at face value. But when researchers have tested the validity of his claims, they all fall apart. I’m not going to waste space here de-bunking his claims as there are many, many other internet sites which already do that in great detail.
This is the subtle difference between you and I – we obviously have
both read the
same books, but where you got to the end and were gobsmacked that these new “facts” had been brought to light, I got to the end and then went back with a highlighter pen to double check the evidence they claimed. With many of these historical-revisionist books, they have pulled a very clever “intellectual sleight-of-hand” that rigorous examination exposes. Some are the work of misguided crackpots, some are the work of pseudo-scholarly charlatans cashing-in on the credulity of readers, bordering on intellectual dishonesty.
But that was after it had to re-learned since we keep destroying ourselves.
Why do you claim we keep destroying ourselves? Civilizations rise and fall – that isn’t the same as mankind “destroying itself”…
Scientific researchers and scientist said many decades would pass before any cloning (DNA manipulation) to even really have a chance of happening. Than Dolly the sheep made the world news.
No, that isn’t the case at all. In fact, the first successful cloning of an animal – a tadpole –
may have occurred in 1952. Fish were cloned in the 60s, and sheep had previously been cloned by the same institute that cloned Dolly. Dolly was simply the first mammal to be cloned from an adult somatic cell.
Just because we don't want to believe something or we're told it cannot happen it never did happen it doesn't mean it cannot or did not.
That isn’t really a valid argument for anything. The reverse: Just because we WANT to believe something or someone SAYS it could happen doesn’t mean it can or has.
That is why we maintain an inquiring-mind but
demand evidence.
Europeans were in what is now Ethiopia and what is called the Middle East hundreds of years before the crusades
I’m not sure what your point is. The Romans occupied large tracts of the middle east and north Africa as early as 20BCE, over a thousand years
before the first Crusade.
Scepticism is smart but you cannot dismiss everything any more than you can accept everything.
Actually, it means I can doubt everything which is unproven. Instead of simply accepting something that is claimed, I can ask for proof, or look to see if proof exists, or even if the evidence points in a completely different direction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtCsstLXL9M