[aprilc1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBlRIVBn4U

It's believed to be a depiction of the destruction of the Earth by a massive solar flare ; it depicts the bunkers that have been built by the government for the upper echelon to survive the coming apocalypse -check out Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura-what does anybody else think about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9EpqBf0oCY

Oh Denver airport is widely discussed all over the net. The symbolism on the murals is way too obvious and frankly, I dont understand why ANYONE would want that on their wall, least such a public place. Its not so nice to see it just before you take a flight. Jesse... ah, I adore his theories, but his way of proving a point could be a bit more polished.

[Bane Bloodfang]

wth did I just watch? O_o I actually laughed at people claiming the world was gunna end in 2012 and now it actually might? O_O Jeez, I mean this is a fantastic thread as being a Brit and not on the conspiracy theory ball I had NO IDEA about Denver airport but seriously? Now I'm concerned the world will end XD;

Does this mean I won't reach my 21st? D: if the world ends before september I'm gunna be p***ed XD

I think the art at Denver is brilliant, but I'll talk about that later. First I want to examine Jesse Ventura's claims and see just how well they stand up to scrutiny. Sure, they sound sinister, but how about facts instead of scare-quotes?

It's 25 miles from Denver - that's 19 miles farther away than old Stapleton Airport, which seemed to be just fine...

Stapleton was built in 1929 in a city. Only 3 miles away from the central downtown district, its location meant that the city could not build skyscrapers over 715 feet as they would block the glide slope for runways 8L/26R and 8R/26L It was a source of serious noise pollution and the residents of the next-door Park Hill neighbourhoods had launched a class action lawsuit aginst the airport. It had only three 10,000 foot runways - the absolute minimum length for a Boeing 747 at that altitude (around 5,500 feet above sea level). The runways were cramped together, causing congestion and delays for aircraft during adverse weather. Stapleton was at capacity, and new routes and airlines were unable to use it simply because it was too small. To extend the airport and runways, the Colorado General Assembly planned to annex land in Adams County into the city of Denver, part of the Rocky Mountain Arsenal (a chemical weapons manufacturing base) which Adams County blocked. The new airport has 6 runways over 12,000 feet and one 16,000 feet long, all at least 4,300 feet apart, the minimum required by the FAA for simultaneous landings in bad weather.

No, "old Stapleton" was not "just fine", and the new location was a logical distance from the city.

Enough fibre optic cables to cover a city...

Well, how much is "enough"? The conspiracy theorists claim around 5,300 miles - which is quite a lot. But in fact the real figure is only 152 miles - about right for the job, when you consider that it is used to connect a system including 2 ASR-9 Airport Surveillance Radars, 29 wind speed and direction sensors, the Terminal Doppler Weather Radar, ILS, ASDE-III Airport Surface Detection Equipment radars, all computers and monitoring stations, and all this running via a 33-storey high Terminal Radar Approach Control (TRACON) facility, itself located 3 miles south of the main terminal complex.

Not that much cable, after all.

A fuelling system that's much bigger than any airport would ever need...

Again with the vague! How much? The fueling system at Denver is capable of pumping 1,000 gallons of jet fuel per minute through a 28-mile network of pipes. Each of the six storage tanks holds 2.73 million gallons of jet fuel - 16.38 million total. So, is that excessive? On average the airport uses 1.1 million gallons a day (2010 figures). So they hold roughly two weeks' supply - allowing also for the fact that the system cannot be allowed to fall below a certain level or run dry because of the horrendous air locks this would create.

Not so much after all, is it?

Underground tunnels you can drive trucks through...

This is based on the claims of a guy called Alex Christopher. Can we trust his claims? Well, Alex also says that "the underground bases are jointly occupied with [CIA] agents and negative aliens [who] have been for years working together to create a most deadly biological/germ warfare product. They have found that by using glandular secretions from the aliens to create the biological weapon that is totally deadly to humans while it has not effect on the aliens. And of course there is no antidote or if there is, the government is the only one with it." He also says that one of his contacts has told him that "there are thousands of children being used in these underground prison camps and that when they are physically all used up and can not go on, the nasty Draco’s kill, slaughter and eat them on the spot."

 

As Skeptoid's Brian Dunning has pointed out: "The underground constructions, as anyone who has traveled through Denver knows, are for the underground train system that connects all the terminals, including additional tunneling built to accommodate future expansion. Other underground systems were built for Denver's state of the art automated baggage handling system. Unfortunately the system never worked well, and by 2005 it was retired completely [a decision that saved them $1 million per month in maintenance costs], and now the underground tunnels are used for conventional baggage handling. Hundreds of workers go in and out of there every day, and none of them have ever reported seeing anything unusual. No reptoids, no aliens, no Illuminati. Yet. I was not able to find any well-reported cases of a worker being interviewed and refusing to discuss his job, so as far as I can tell, this was simply made up."

And it just happens to be in the middle of a flat, vacant piece of land that's twice the size of Manhattan...

As we should by now expect, no real numbers are given. DIA encompasses 53 square miles, to be exact. And yet is still smaller than Canada's Montréal-Mirabel International Airport... which is itself smaller than Saudi Arabia's King Fahd International Airport. As for Manhattan, that seems to be a sleight-of-hand to make us think of something... well, vast. But Manhattan is only 22.96 square miles, a tiny little place and the most densely populated of the five boroughs of New York City.

And if I was looking for a great place to build a state-of-the-art international airport, I'd be looking for a "flat, vacant piece of land" to put it in, too...

I'm pretty certain that there ARE covert military and/or government installations/bases in North America - just as there are in almost every other country. But the whole point of "covert" bases is that they don't advertise themselves as such.

Other things that have been put forward as evidence of the NWO conspiracy at Denver include the words in the floor, supposedly in a secret - or even alien - language:
COCHETOPA
SISNAAJINI
MT BLANCA
DZIT DIT GAII
BRAAKSMA
VILLARREAL

Except if anybody had actually researched the words before jumping to crazy conclusions they would have discovered that they were all the names of Colorado landmarks in the Navajo language... Except for [Carolyn] Braaksma and [Mark] Villarreal - two of the artists who carried out the stone artwork at the airport. (Although Steve Snyder, the Public Affairs officer for the airport, fed up with constant requests about the inscriptions from a conspiracy website called "Free Press International", once said: "DZIT DIT GAII translated means: Free Press International-bringing you the real world news. Who knew!" LOL)

Ventura and his "guide" point out the Freemasons symbol and the New World Airport Commission capstone. "New World" has been used to refer to the US since the early 1500's... The explanation given by the airport is that the emphasis is misplaced anyway, and that it should be read as "new "World Airport" commission" referring as it does to the plan to build a new, world  leading airport. The Freemason symbol was carved because - as is very common in many large and municipal projects - the Freemasons provided the capstone.

Ah, freemasons, they are such a lovely and culture loving bunch

Ah, freemasons, they are such a lovely and culture loving bunch

I am a Freemason, so I'll take that as a compliment.

Unless, of course, you're implying that you have proof that Freemasons are involved in a global conspiracy.

But best conspiracies dont have proof, or else they wouldnt be a successful one, or am i wrong? Are you implying that u have a proof of contrary? Im well aware that 90% of freemasons are unaware of true agendas. But im a tinfoil hatter and a conspiracy theorist myself. So that shouldnt bother u really

Speaking of which, a nice lil read here: 33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every Person Should Know

[Bane Bloodfang]

I'm gunna look stupid for saying this but its driving me crazy. It is a lil off topic so, theres ya warning...

What is a freemason? I've heard bits here and there and its mainly been crazy ass christian bints tellin me they're satanists... but to me a satanist is a satanist and I have no clue what the link is if there is at all to freemasons! XD. Please help unboggle mein mind DX;;

Freemasonry is basically a gentleman's dining society with some amateur dramatics before the food and drink  =) 

Officially founded in 1717, it may have earlier roots but nobody has been able to conclusively prove this.

Each individual club - known as a "Lodge" - meets serveral times each year. Some members like to meet more often and so join the so-called "Side Degrees" - Chapter, Rose Croix, Knights Templar etc - which are basically the same but with different amateur dramatics before the scoff. Membership fees, due annually, pay for the food and drink and the surplus is given to charity.

Conspiracy theorists call it a "secret society" - masons call it a "society with secrets." As a secret society it would be a complete failure - everyone knows about it, it advertises its meetings, its membership is widely known, and masons are encouraged to speak openly about it. Officially, the blurb is

Freemasonry is a society of men concerned with moral and spiritual values. Its members are taught its precepts (moral lessons and self-knowledge) by a series of ritual dramas - a progression of allegorical two-part plays which are learnt by heart and performed within each Lodge - which follow ancient forms, and use stonemasons’ customs and tools as allegorical guides.

Freemasonry instils in its members a moral and ethical approach to life: it seeks to reinforce thoughtfulness for others, kindness in the community, honesty in business, courtesy in society and fairness in all things. Members are urged to regard the interests of the family as paramount but, importantly, Freemasonry also teaches and practices concern for people, care for the less fortunate and help for those in need.

Conspiracy theorists like to say that "90% of masons don't know the true agenda" and other outlandish claims. In reality, that is just an excuse for why they are unable to find evidence of sinister global conspiracies. If they had ever been "inside" masonry they would know that 99.9% of masons don't give a fig about controlling the world or any other such BS, and the remaining 0.1% are just winding up the non-masons. They also claim that masons help each other out - but rest assured, if a mason were in court and secretly signalled a masonic judge, the judge would come down harsher on him, not easier.