Monstrous
CryptoZoo => Sightings! => Topic started by: The_Yeti2003 on May 27, 2003, 06:05:59 AM
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I believe there is a Loch Ness Monster. I think it has been preserved in the clean waters for millions of years, there are two adults, every so often more are born, there are passage ways to other Lochs, and it is a dinosaur. Sound good?
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What about the other lake monsters ?
It is hard to believe that they manage to conceal !
I believe in Krakens but I have no idea about nessies
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Well maybe they are the same type of animals/dinosaurs......well creatures. What i am saying is maybe, just maybe the Lochs in Ireland are somehow connected. Get what i Mean?
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I most definitely believe there is a Loch Ness Monster...
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:mrgreen: :arrow: i beleive that there is a loch ness monster and i don't care if anyone visits this site and sees my post and thinks that i am a nutter well maybe i am a bit of a nutter oh yess where was i ...oh yes all because there has nevere really been any hard evidence to prove the existance of nessie well maybe there is evidence but the gourvourment might destroy the evidence to hide the truth and maybe even scientists might stretch the truth to hide the facts and say that the mighty kraken is a giant squid they might know that the kraken is real and won't tell so the evidence is proberly destroyed and noone will know there could be dragons living in lakes. and my point is never trust science.
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:shock: wouldn't it be cooool if the lochs were like connected via undergrouns flows, trough tunnels and holes an stuff:D yaaa that's an interesting theory :lol:
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its fun to beleive in that stuff, but in the many, many years they say he has been around there ni photos that are real, people admit to faking um. and btw first post he wouldnt be preserved in clean water it would be in cold but even after all that it might be true, there no proof its not after all. so im jus not sure
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I want to believe.......
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Welcome to Monstrous Nossie! :) I am Shadowling.
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Thanks.... By the way, "Nossie" is short for Nosferatu, just so ya know. Been my nickname since preschool......
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i doubt they are real. One would have turned up by now if there in lakes,but if it was a monster that lived in the ocean,it would be very possible.
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As for this Loch ness monster being a dinosaur...... I strongly suggest all of you to look for pictures of a plesiosaur... look familiar?
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As for this Loch ness monster being a dinosaur...... I strongly suggest all of you to look for pictures of a plesiosaur... look familiar?
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Also, it is very possible for something like an ocean bound dinosaur to be hidden for hundreds and thousands of years before we even get traces of it. Need I point out the Giant Squids?
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Someone at wikipedia raised the following questions about lake monsters...
1. Most of the lakes allegedly inhabited by these creatures were covered with ice during the last Ice Age. If these lake monsters are air-breathers, how did they survive?
2. No bodies have ever been found. When a large aquatic creature dies, gases from decomposition often bring it to the surface. The remains of sharks, whales and giant squids are often found floating or washed up on beaches. In an area as small and confined as a lake, the body of a large lake monster would certainly be visible. Since many of these lakes are in regions that have been inhabited for centuries, the remains of lake monsters should be commonplace.
3. There is some debate as to how much food even one lake monster would require. Most of the "inhabited" lakes contain large populations of game fish, but we don't know how large a population would be needed to sustain a giant predator.
4. Any aquarium owner knows the difference between caring for freshwater creatures and saltwater creatures. If, as most believers claim, these lake monsters swam upstream from the sea, or were stranded as the sea retreated, how have they adapted so quickly to life in a freshwater environment?
I ask from a devil's advocate point of view, btw.
~ Viper ~
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Someone at wikipedia raised the following questions about lake monsters...
1. Most of the lakes allegedly inhabited by these creatures were covered with ice during the last Ice Age. If these lake monsters are air-breathers, how did they survive?
2. No bodies have ever been found. When a large aquatic creature dies, gases from decomposition often bring it to the surface. The remains of sharks, whales and giant squids are often found floating or washed up on beaches. In an area as small and confined as a lake, the body of a large lake monster would certainly be visible. Since many of these lakes are in regions that have been inhabited for centuries, the remains of lake monsters should be commonplace.
3. There is some debate as to how much food even one lake monster would require. Most of the "inhabited" lakes contain large populations of game fish, but we don't know how large a population would be needed to sustain a giant predator.
4. Any aquarium owner knows the difference between caring for freshwater creatures and saltwater creatures. If, as most believers claim, these lake monsters swam upstream from the sea, or were stranded as the sea retreated, how have they adapted so quickly to life in a freshwater environment?
I ask from a devil's advocate point of view, btw.
~ Viper ~
1) Maybe it went into a hibernation period in which it was able to come back alive when it became unfrozen. I do believe some creatures can do that. (Also, connections between the certain lakes and the sea may be established and we just dont know)
2) We do not know alot about the composition of dinosaurs and what happens in the process when they die. Maybe the body just sinks to the bottom? Evolution could have had a hand in why gases from decomposition bring bodies to the surface.
3) I have a cottage by a lake and I can tell you that there are many many many leaves and weeds that could sustain a large monster. In the case with Nessy, as Ive said before, there could be tunnels that lead inbetween the sea and lake.
4) Evolution?
Note: These are just my ideas to counter act DVs devils advocate, by the way. I only know what a highschool education has given me, and that may not be enough, so cut me some slack if I am posting what you think is outragous.
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2. No bodies have ever been found. When a large aquatic creature dies, gases from decomposition often bring it to the surface. The remains of sharks, whales and giant squids are often found floating or washed up on beaches. In an area as small and confined as a lake, the body of a large lake monster would certainly be visible. Since many of these lakes are in regions that have been inhabited for centuries, the remains of lake monsters should be commonplace.
I know in Loch Ness there are caves, the creatures could live in these as a "nest". They could raise young, eat, and die in them. Most creatures tend to try to hide themselves before they die, so perhaps the bodies are in the caves? Or perhaps the other monsters, since there is not enough food for all of them at once cannabalize the bodies and the bodies are eaten and the skeleton floats to the bottum of the lake.
Just some thoughts.
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I've heard a nasty rumor that the Loch Ness Monster is (was) actually an elephant from a traveling circus that a P.T. Barnum type fellow would take to the lake and let it swim around in an effort to drum up business.
They have sonared the whole loch and found nothing and as much as I'd like to think that something like this could exist it is nearly impossible at this point. How would it reproduce? It would have to have a group of breeding adults and eventually they would have a polluted gene pool and would die out.
Sorry folk, I just can't believe that they still exist
ZRY
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They have sonared something in the loch, might be logs, school of fish, or a monster. :?
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I've heard a nasty rumor that the Loch Ness Monster is (was) actually an elephant from a traveling circus that a P.T. Barnum type fellow would take to the lake and let it swim around in an effort to drum up business.
They have sonared the whole loch and found nothing and as much as I'd like to think that something like this could exist it is nearly impossible at this point. How would it reproduce? It would have to have a group of breeding adults and eventually they would have a polluted gene pool and would die out.
Sorry folk, I just can't believe that they still exist
ZRY
for the same reasons many animals go extinct...their rate of breeding can not keep up with the rate of their destruction?
perhaps there's an entire watersystem below the earth(there's enough artesian wells that suggest this) and such creatures can pass through by that method, that could explain why these creatures are seen around the world(two in canada, even one rumored in our own flathead lake)what people think are several dinosaurs may only be one or two that migrate through these, tunnels. As for dying?
elephants have a graveyard, as do other animals have specific places they go to die...as for surviving freezing temperatures...in montana we have turtles and frogs that will go to the bottom of mud and allow themselves to be frozen, until it thaws out...
it's possible, just because there's no proof...that's a weak arguement, considering some of the other, beliefs on this site. :P
there's so little known about the creature, that it's impossible to expect it to be like anything we know today.
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I just saw something on the Histroy Channel where people looked at the two ways out of the Loch. They said it would be impossible for them to get out of the loch into the ocean without being noticed... :|
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I just saw something on the Histroy Channel where people looked at the two ways out of the Loch. They said it would be impossible for them to get out of the loch into the ocean without being noticed... :|
at least with what they've discovered...apparantly the creatures can breath air...they wouldn't be restricted to water...look at the walking catfish, they can survive days without water.
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walking catfish cant leave water for long becuse they have to keep there skin wet
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Thats why they roll around in the mud while moving, aye? *<:)
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Just a little something to throw more fuel on the fire. I have to admit, this is some of the best film I've seen out of Loch Ness yet. All I can say is, something passed under the bow of this boat, and whatever it was breached the surface twice on its way through.
http://www.filecabi.net/video/lochcrw.html (http://www.filecabi.net/video/lochcrw.html)
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That was pretty good, but some guy on the comments said, and I quote.
this is a clip from the movie- incident at loch ness (I thinks that's the name of it) I saw it on HBO last month. It's a movie that's supposed to have a "documentary" feel to it.
But if it wasn't, that was simiply amazing, and no scientist could have said bull crap to that!
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Wow, someone actually posted a comment worth reading on filecabi.net? Wonders never cease... :lol:
Seriously though, if that's supposed to be film footage with actual actors, they need to do a rewrite on the script. Some of the stuff being said in the background (the "What's going on?" stuff) sounded really lame.
Still, if that's actually an upcoming movie, I can see someone buying the monster prop in the future off eBay and really wreaking some havoc with real monster hunters on Loch Ness.
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I'm not sure if it was a movie, but if it wasn't I'm surprised no one was like "OH SH**!!" or "wth!!!?!?!" Because if you see some of the ghost shows they sware about every minute during "contact". :P
I'd love to buy a Loch Ness Monster sub kit to get people worked up in the loch, but I have terrible aquaphobia. Still the look on the people's faces would be priceless!
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imgoin with faked
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I've seen a few documentaries on the Loch Ness Monster, most of the footage turned out to be faked, but perhaps it is real and we're all just too critical to believe that God wanted something to torment us like this, but that's just my opinion.
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That has to be the most original idea about nessie I've ver heard. Nicely done. And yes I decided to post in some of these long neglected threads :lol:
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Hmm a creature as ancient and powerful as that would have to be able to become quite a hearty ghost, so yeah I like your theory. Let's start our own Nessie ghost cult, whaddya say? :wink: *<:)
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yeh i believe there is. i mean anythings possible =]
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Some have proposed that Nessie is actually a particularly attention-loving Kelpie.
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A demonic aquatic predator from Celtic folklore that resembles a beautiful horse. Once it tricks a naive mortal into mounting it, it promptly hurtles towards its watery lair and submerges itself, drowning and devouring its hapless rider in the process.
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Actually, not all Kelpies in the Scottish myths were incredibly violent. Some were simply playful tricksters.
Now, how can you deny that the intense global following, and massive amount of research put into the Loch Ness Monster could possibly be the work of a particularly good trickster?
As a "troll", I must say that I'd love to accomplish a feat of that magnitude.
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Yes the Kelpie is described as a water horse, but do you have any idea how many sea serpents and other such creatures similar to Nessie have been described as having horse-like heads?
It does fit, taking into consideration that the ancient Celts probably would have been too afraid to get near enough for a good look, and any superficial similarity to a horse would have been noted, and this feature would have been exaggerated in the tales over time, much the same way the giraffe was once said to be the offspring of a leopard and a camel.
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Very soon indeed :wink:
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w00t! first post.
The Loch ness Monster is not a dinosaur. Dinosaurs live on land.
It is most likely a deformed log
If it's a creature, it's probably a mutated mollusk, which is why there are no skeletal evdince.
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Truely? So the plesiosaurus isn't a dinosaur?
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No, actually it isn't.
Think how long it took to find the gaint squid.
Hey, Muerte your thing changed.
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I know, I felt that since I was here so often, and I was asked for advice, well, might as well take the plunge, but
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I just started to re educate myself concerning Dino's, I am no palientologist after all, so please, if you will, what are the aquatic creatures of that time period identified as. ( It seems to be a hot topic, as some sites id them as dinosaurs some do not ) If I am to mod here, I need to do some seriouse home work. I am also going to be moving this topic to sightings, as this is a discussion for dinosaurs, and well, the topic says it all.
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What about the other lake monsters ?
It is hard to believe that they manage to conceal !
I believe in Krakens but I have no idea about nessies
Krakens do exist, they're called Giant Squids.