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The Darker Side => Demons, Demonology and The Devil => Topic started by: DemonHunterofIndiana on June 18, 2008, 12:14:08 AM
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I've already gone demon-hunting a few times now. My colleague and I searched, but only a few nights proved to see even a trace amount of malicious activity.
I will do it, despite how dangerous it is. I am sixteen and I have no idea how i've gotten involved. But I love the feeling, I feel called by God
to wipe them off the face of the earth. I carry holy water, a physical weapon in which i try to cover in holy water and spiritual energy i've gained
in the martial arts, incense, blessed necklaces, a rosary, and a few other items.
I need educated because from the sounds of it I'm getting close to dieing. Even writing this, I feel like their watching me from each room that connects to this one. I know that they know I sense them, it's just this feeling.
My colleague and I are greatly uneducated. I tried to educate myself tonight and found this site. I need advice, counsel, and words of how to do it. The next hunt is this friday. I need the information badly. I workout regularly (everyday with a personal trainer), I then do football conditioning, and then martial arts (shorei-goju-ryu).
Educate me.
I search to relieve. I search to relinquish. I search to get rid of and help. I need guidance.
I need words.
I need education.
Without them, I will die I suppose.
And I willnot stop, so don't waste your breath.
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well since you seem so dead set on this ima just say weres some light body armor and when they hack you to pieces dont make to big of a mess.
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I'll take that into consideration!
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Demons tend to be incorpereal, so martial arts is not going to help you out much in that area. What you need to learn, is how to banish them. From what you've said so far, my understanding is that you are a Christian of some kind and so maybe you might find this to be useful:http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1199/demon.html.
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I think you need to lay off the RPG's. Honestly.
"demons", assuming they even exist, are probably eons-old superior beings that have more power than you could ever even imagine, and that's just the vermin. No amount of personal training could defend you against something made of pure spiritual/psychic energy.
Just for your information, an ancient Hebrew word for demon has been discovered to mean "hyena". Anything that could harm a human was considered evil at the time. The Hebrews were monolatrists, not monotheists. They only worshipped one God, while acknowledging the existence of others. The ancient Middle Eastern peoples had different cults dedicated to different gods, and most often a different city-state/area was dedicated to a certain god. Through pure chance the god of the Hebrew people, Jehovah, survived to modern times. Maybe because the tribal cult dedicated to him was fiercer than most. Either way, your god is just a throw-back to one pagan god of a whole pantheon thought up by human and animal sacrificing desert barbarians. Just to give you a little perspective into religion.
Your god doesn't call you. You take it upon yourself to call on him. Whatever calling you hear is your own invention, my friend.
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well since you seem so dead set on this ima just say weres some light body armor and when they hack you to pieces dont make to big of a mess.
Oh wow, I'm sure that helped him a bunch, the boy simply asked for advice not what to do when he died, how rude.
Demons tend to be incorpereal, so martial arts is not going to help you out much in that area. What you need to learn, is how to banish them. From what you've said so far, my understanding is that you are a Christian of some kind and so maybe you might find this to be useful:http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1199/demon.html.
LOL! Contrary, quite the contrary. Martial arts builds your spirit up, makes the universal fire stronger. If you think martial arts is just a physical thing then don't bother even talking about it in a real martial artist's presence. Granted, I don't know if the boy is lying about if he has done martial arts, and doesn't seem so, martial arts helps you as a person find who you are, and in turn help you fight any thing who threatens that meaning.
I think you need to lay off the RPG's. Honestly.
"demons", assuming they even exist, are probably eons-old superior beings that have more power than you could ever even imagine, and that's just the vermin. No amount of personal training could defend you against something made of pure spiritual/psychic energy.
Just for your information, an ancient Hebrew word for demon has been discovered to mean "hyena". Anything that could harm a human was considered evil at the time. The Hebrews were monolatrists, not monotheists. They only worshipped one God, while acknowledging the existence of others. The ancient Middle Eastern peoples had different cults dedicated to different gods, and most often a different city-state/area was dedicated to a certain god. Through pure chance the god of the Hebrew people, Jehovah, survived to modern times. Maybe because the tribal cult dedicated to him was fiercer than most. Either way, your god is just a throw-back to one pagan god of a whole pantheon thought up by human and animal sacrificing desert barbarians. Just to give you a little perspective into religion.
Your god doesn't call you. You take it upon yourself to call on him. Whatever calling you hear is your own invention, my friend.
Ah, we have a person who seems to not even believe in demons. Giving advice after you have said, "assuming they even exist" is a bad way of giving advice, sortive shows in in a bad position actually to give advice.
Ok kiddo, sixteen and you want to do that s**t, thats fine I can't control your life nor do I even care about it, to put it bluntly. I do care about the fact you have asked nicely for advice so I will share the small amount I can.
I don't know about this call you are feeling, I doubt its by god, in fact thats some thing I would do to a human if I was a demon, but there are few humans who feel that call and take to arms, they do not live very long or have much of a social life. My next words will probally come closer to making you not hunt than any one else's in this forum. Most hunters who answer this call usually DIE A VIRGIN, lol! I'm not joking, you don't have much time for a social life. Believe sex is not some thing you want to miss out on either.
As for killing them, continue your martial arts, build your spirit, because in the end that is what the fight is going to be between, your spirit and that demon. Despite what the one before me said, beings can be arrogant and even be killed by a human. Another thing, is that immortals can out live mortals, but mortals can get stronger.
You can build your spirit up, but you can't just be stupid, some thing it does have that you can not deny is knowledge. Not all demons have been around since the begining of time, and not all are ancient, in fact even the ancient ones and the begining of time, you still have a edge over it, and if you are interested in finding out exactly what that edge is, PM me.
I can not really give you any more advice because I am no demon hunter, I don't claim to be. I have socialized wih demons and meddled in that s**t a little while ago. I have killed one and summoned two. That is the extent of my demonic knowledge. I am no expert and I am no viligent hunter.
Good luck.
(Sersiously though, this is the one time I am going to say this or try and convience you other wise, a social life and getting laid is a far much more better life that you should not miss out on. Defending yourself against demons instead of hunting them is also a rightous path if not a more respected path.)
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hellooooooo!!!!!!! :-o :-o :-o
HE IS BLOODY 16!!!! :|
are you farkin normal???? :-o :-o :-o
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Normal as they come Nina. Looking at me, you'd never even expect it! lmao
I play fullback and defensive end on a football team at my highschool,
I make High Honors and attend a private school and I'm currently dating a chick
one year younger than me. To take an arrogant, stereotypical view; my back isn't hunched,
my eyes aren't bulging, I'm not ugly (at least i don't think so lol), and I pretty much
look pretty charismatic to some.
Tybalt has caught my attention however. But I believe I will just PM him about that.
Martial arts, in Tybalt's viewpoint, is the correct one. The first few lines of our school creed is,
I will true confidence through knowledge of the mind, honesty of the heart,
and strength of the body. I will offer friendship to others, and strive to build a strong community. ...
I'm not understanding this whole spiritual side of it though. Well, not that part about battling using
your spirit vs. the demon's. It would make sense that "Chi" (in chinese, "ki" in japan, "Qi" in india) would affect
the demon and end in dischord if not spiritual based pain. Chi, as it is taught, is the energy put forth from you
being. Flowing up one side of your body, and down the other. Striking pressure points cause disharmony of this life
energy and ends in sickness, fatique, knock-outs, and death. Chi exists in every technique a martial artist is
used to and has executed well enough to visualize what that technique would do. This is called "extending your ki."
Would this not affect the demon's spirit?
If not, how does spirit vs. spirit work then?
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Just because you do "normal" things,football,girls etc... doesnt mean that you dont need some professional help.To be blunt some of the so-called advice given here is just crap plain & simple.I mean come on!A sixteen year old kid wanting advice for demon hunting & the potential of death from it goes far beyond loveline material.If you think im kidding go talk to any priest or general health practioner or better yet GO TO YOUR PARENTS & SHOW THEM YOUR POST.Seek opinions from the people i've mentioned & see what rersponse they give.To give you advice of any other kind is not only dangerous but totally irresponsible.
The teenage years can for some be a difficult time & hey im all for a little rpg,fantasy dorking out if thats what you like but to talk seriously about DEMON HUNTING & discuss it as a reality folks is more than a little overboard for a 16 yr.old.
"If we long to believe that the stars rise and set for us, that we are the reason there is a Universe, does science do us a disservice in deflating our conceits?....For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." [Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark]
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Hi DHI,
I think the best advice I can offer is to cultivate discernment. This has been sort of suggested in the posts above but not touched directly.
Discernment will let you know when you are decieving yourself or when you are really actually searching for the reality of things.
This is by far the most tricky area of any kind of development, martial arts, football, spirituality. However it is like a master key to them all.
I say tricky because the advice on how to learn it varies from person to person. Also, like true internal power it is not something that happens overnight. Its a lifelong study but very very rewarding.
ob.
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Normal as they come Nina. Looking at me, you'd never even expect it! lmao
I play fullback and defensive end on a football team at my highschool,
I make High Honors and attend a private school and I'm currently dating a chick
one year younger than me. To take an arrogant, stereotypical view; my back isn't hunched,
my eyes aren't bulging, I'm not ugly (at least i don't think so lol), and I pretty much
look pretty charismatic to some.
Are we talkin fullback defensive on a team that goes against beings strong enough to knock you back five yards with one punch seriouslyman i mean just because you somewhat have a social life does not mean you should run off demon hunting. This would be the sighns of complete fooleshness i mean how long have you actually been studying demons? Do you have some mentor you could apprentice to? how much experience do you have with fully corporeal demons? I'm not trying to be rude but it sounds like you bring the preverbial knife to a gun fight.
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Hey guys, we are justs words on a computer screen to him. We can't really tell him what to do. Rather his life is in jepordy or not we may never ever actually know. I'm sure the words, don't do it because its bad won't work, and the words you will die if you continue will work just as welll as that.
If you want him to not demon hunt then try telling him some thing that will catch his attention.
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Just because you do "normal" things,football,girls etc... doesnt mean that you dont need some professional help.To be blunt some of the so-called advice given here is just crap plain & simple.I mean come on!A sixteen year old kid wanting advice for demon hunting & the potential of death from it goes far beyond loveline material.If you think im kidding go talk to any priest or general health practioner or better yet GO TO YOUR PARENTS & SHOW THEM YOUR POST.Seek opinions from the people i've mentioned & see what rersponse they give.To give you advice of any other kind is not only dangerous but totally irresponsible.
The teenage years can for some be a difficult time & hey im all for a little rpg,fantasy dorking out if thats what you like but to talk seriously about DEMON HUNTING & discuss it as a reality folks is more than a little overboard for a 16 yr.old.
"If we long to believe that the stars rise and set for us, that we are the reason there is a Universe, does science do us a disservice in deflating our conceits?....For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." [Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark]
I was only stating my personal life due to Nina's questioning of my "normalcy." The only illness that runs in the family is diabetes, and I'm pretty confident that diabetes does not cause hallucinations or create the urge to 'demon hunt.'
I've done my research bluntly. I've talked to a catholic priest about it, reviewed it with my parents, and have talked to some of my elder friends about it. They all did not like the idea, but I believe they didn't want to be demons to my ambitions; so they let me live my life according to the way I wish to spend it.
Ignorance is only another step towards death. To so fool-heartedly enter into battle without premeditating your enemy and what they are capable is indeed a very stupid move. I am trying to prevent this, so therefor I need to learn the truth. I didn't want to quote the bible for my ignorance towards remembering chapters and verses, but I do recall in the chapter of Mark he speaks something like, "Do not shun yourself from Satan. Learn his deceptions so you can gaurd against them and not be decieved yourself." Something like that. So, with that being said, I believe it is best for me to understand the severity of finding demons, banishing/defeating demons, protection for others and self-protection against demons, and strategems of that sort.
And finally, there is one last thing I want to advert to. Judging an opponent or enemy based on age is an incredibly dense and senseless thing to do. For example, any aged person can fire a gun as well as the other. An adult can at times outrun a child and also contrariwise. A common street fighter versus a teenager trained in martial arts can easily subdue his opponent, and sometimes can easily be defeated. We cannot control fate. And if humans can not, how much less can age? Much, much less.
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Normal as they come Nina. Looking at me, you'd never even expect it! lmao
I play fullback and defensive end on a football team at my highschool,
I make High Honors and attend a private school and I'm currently dating a chick
one year younger than me. To take an arrogant, stereotypical view; my back isn't hunched,
my eyes aren't bulging, I'm not ugly (at least i don't think so lol), and I pretty much
look pretty charismatic to some.
Are we talkin fullback defensive on a team that goes against beings strong enough to knock you back five yards with one punch seriouslyman i mean just because you somewhat have a social life does not mean you should run off demon hunting. This would be the sighns of complete fooleshness i mean how long have you actually been studying demons? Do you have some mentor you could apprentice to? how much experience do you have with fully corporeal demons? I'm not trying to be rude but it sounds like you bring the preverbial knife to a gun fight.
Again: the whole personal life information was a response to the inquiry from Nina. Don't cut off my tongue just for saying that; I meant not for boasting a social life. Just implying that I may have qualities of being whatever people consider "normal."
However, I would have to argue against what you're saying. I do not simply "run of demon hunting." If I were to perform this, I would not be in this very place. I would be winging it over at places where I believed they were and places where I felt an intuition of needing to be present at. I know not methods to study demons, so I am here of course. I found a list, but is this an effective way of becoming more protected and able to perform what I intend on doing? Or will I simply just be asking for death?
I have no mentor except for those I find educated enough here to instruct me. I've had a very serious interaction with a demon before, but it was in a dream state. Or it happened when I was asleep and I woke upto it. I still am oblivious to if I was on a spiritual plane or the phyical one. I will give more information on this occurence to those who find it necessary. I believe I figured something out great, but do not understand it's meaning or efficacy.
A martial artist learns never to show upto a gun fight with simply a knife or short reach weapon. That is simply suicide! :wink:
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When I asked "are you normal?" I didnt mean "do you do normal stuff in your life?".
What I wanted to know is more like this:
Do you really think that a normal kid of 16 would go demon hunting?
Cause, one thing needs to be said. If you want to destroy such old and strong entities before you die (cause you surely will being inexperienced as you are) maybe you should live and learn more about life that surrounds you first.
Cause trust me, you would do much more by fighting real life criminals, and wrong doers, than fight the invisible ones. Demons are not such a danger to a modern world as a modern man is. Turn around yourself and read newspaper, watch tv, you will see that most pain is being caused to people by other people.
My advise would be to you to finish your school, then join police force or FBI or something, world doesnt need a fog chaser, but someone who can help in real ways. Leave the demon hunting to those who know their job.
And, man, go get some booty!!!!
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Lol, don't assume the kid will be able to pin point the ancient bastards so quickly. I am sure he will run across the lesser demons before the true demons. With any luck thats all he will run into like the group of hunters in my territory. Every night they hunt what they thought were demons in fact they were just lesser demons, then a true demon came along. They all are still recovering and are trying to build a new stragety. FYI, DHI, Most of these hunters in this group are just one year younger than you! I know this will not discourage you but I said I would give you as much as I can, here are their experiences.
The true demon infltrated their group quite easily. Demonic poession was already underway. This group consisted of two fifteen year olds, a seventeen year old, and one special fifteen year old, that one was a were, he claimed pure blood. He hunted the lessers for the fun of it and then dropped out to have a normal life. So we have a total of three humans, some thing you can't forget, your human.
One of these hunters had the same ambition you did, felt the same calling and did martial arts as well, not to mention he was farking huge! He sortive reminds me of you. Yeah, a true demon got into him and with his body attacked the other fifteen year old. I am not sure of the details but the demon left his body, and after which the second one did not want to hunt. The group now dropped down to two fifteen year olds, but the true demon wasn't done with them yet, he had left a certain item on the one like you. Now by this time I had taken a interest in him, saw much potential as I saw in you, to ensure his survival because he would surely die if he kept on now that the numbers were so few, I gave him power. I bonded him to me. Yeah, that made him more powerful, yeah he didn't die. I also took the item away from him. It turned out it was a mark of insanity. There is an almost invisible line that seperates insanity and wisdom, there were certain trade offs with this item... That is if you hadn't been messed with like he had. He had a un-healthy desire to try and take this item back.
Long story short, he turned on me, has the item and got his ass whipped by the demon. He now suffers severe wounds now that he tries to still hunt while he isn't bonded (After he turned on me I wasn't going to let him keep that power!). His current girlfriend begs him to stop, but he doesn't, because of this demon who frequently goes inside him he is losing his humanity and emotions and goes out of his way to kill small animals, or use to.
This story does not end with the true demon dead. It ends with me making a contract with the demon to leave my territory for the summer in exchange for a little bit that is mine. I am not sure what I am going to do about him, I am still thinking, I got a few more months.
With any luck, your just going to hit lesser demons for a while, its rare to find a true demon who will waste his time with a human, and even rarer for a human to win.
Best advice, if your going to fight supernaturals, befriend supernaturals. Hmmm, I'm thinking of a deal. What would it take to get you to not "hunt" for two years?
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I've read what you've written Tybalt, and due to my lack of accountable personal knowledge on this information I am willing to stop hunting for two years. However, I would like to just explore and perhaps find them and study them if possible. Study is loosely thrown around, so I should use observe or began to know my opponent.
I need a teacher that can help me learn during those two years. And I'm pretty confident that the more I learn, they might feel threatened and I might get a little premature action that will set me up for the real deal. I might have skipped over something in your writing, but I'm not sure what item you are referring to. Or is this item not supposed to be known to me?
To put it bluntly, for me to stop officially "hunting" demons, I want to constantly be able to get ready for them. I mean physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional training that someone can put me through to become strong enough to be able to do what I am so diligently anticipating. I believe my physical training if very well enough for now, but all areas I do not train in for betterment.
I need a willing teacher. And I've always heard this saying, "When the student is ready, the teacher appears." So I will wait for one strong-willed and educated enough to guide me for these two years. I need to be able to be well-rounded enough to have my educator actually confident enough that I will be able to single handedly defeat one. Two years is more than enough training for that time, at least far long enough for physical training. I know not the duration of spiritual, mental, and emotional training but it will be summed up in two years hopefully with hardwork.
My update will mostly likely appear on a Saturday night by the way. Chances are I will either send you a few questions or you won't recieve personal word from me until then. However, I have a feeling I may be hearing from you first. If not, the update will be sent when appropriate (in other words, Saturday).
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When I asked "are you normal?" I didnt mean "do you do normal stuff in your life?".
What I wanted to know is more like this:
Do you really think that a normal kid of 16 would go demon hunting?
Cause, one thing needs to be said. If you want to destroy such old and strong entities before you die (cause you surely will being inexperienced as you are) maybe you should live and learn more about life that surrounds you first.
Cause trust me, you would do much more by fighting real life criminals, and wrong doers, than fight the invisible ones. Demons are not such a danger to a modern world as a modern man is. Turn around yourself and read newspaper, watch tv, you will see that most pain is being caused to people by other people.
My advise would be to you to finish your school, then join police force or FBI or something, world doesnt need a fog chaser, but someone who can help in real ways. Leave the demon hunting to those who know their job.
And, man, go get some booty!!!!
Normalcy is just a label. A demonhunter is just a label. Just because one calls himself this does not necessarily mean his is one. There could be thousands of people who say, "I have conjured two demons and have destroyed three." Who can depend on the accountability on such words?
Before you learned or expierenced demons, angels, 'shadowpeople,' and entities of the sort, would you really have believed they existed? For all you guys know, I could be a demon hacking into the server just to make a connection and see the responses I would get to the likely hood of a teenager being a threat against me. Age is shallow, willpower is what drives a deviding line between normalcy and innormalcy, doing and trying, being and not being.
I don't know why you guys think that demon hunting prevents the chances of getting "booty," by the way. I find myself to be quite attractive, so unless demon hunting will turn me into an ugly beast, I'll be ok I'm pretty sure. (That was perhaps very ignorant of me due to my lack of the subject of dealing with demons. But that's what I'm here for.)
Augh, I hate the police. Naturally anyway, if I was demon hunting and I saw someone doing something bad enough, I would stop them.
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I've read what you've written Tybalt, and due to my lack of accountable personal knowledge on this information I am willing to stop hunting for two years. However, I would like to just explore and perhaps find them and study them if possible. Study is loosely thrown around, so I should use observe or began to know my opponent.
I need a teacher that can help me learn during those two years. And I'm pretty confident that the more I learn, they might feel threatened and I might get a little premature action that will set me up for the real deal. I might have skipped over something in your writing, but I'm not sure what item you are referring to. Or is this item not supposed to be known to me?
To put it bluntly, for me to stop officially "hunting" demons, I want to constantly be able to get ready for them. I mean physical, mental, spiritual, and emotional training that someone can put me through to become strong enough to be able to do what I am so diligently anticipating. I believe my physical training if very well enough for now, but all areas I do not train in for betterment.
I need a willing teacher. And I've always heard this saying, "When the student is ready, the teacher appears." So I will wait for one strong-willed and educated enough to guide me for these two years. I need to be able to be well-rounded enough to have my educator actually confident enough that I will be able to single handedly defeat one. Two years is more than enough training for that time, at least far long enough for physical training. I know not the duration of spiritual, mental, and emotional training but it will be summed up in two years hopefully with hardwork.
My update will mostly likely appear on a Saturday night by the way. Chances are I will either send you a few questions or you won't recieve personal word from me until then. However, I have a feeling I may be hearing from you first. If not, the update will be sent when appropriate (in other words, Saturday).
You show much wisdom and great potiental.
Not many have shown such thorough drive as you said you have, and not many have the discpline.
I am glad you have taking two years.
The item was a modified mark of insanity. Wearing the mark will grant the wearer great insight, most people think you are just losing it, and in reality it is tearing away at your sanity because to get to true wisdom, you must part with your worldly holdings and sanity is like glue that sticks to every thing worldly. Taking the mark off will often cause derrangements. All these defects are worth it if you are seeking knowledge, this mark how ever was modified though. It was modified to tear away at the sanity that let him knew who he was, the mark was weakening his spirit, allowing the demon better leverage.
Some more advice. Demons work with secrets as their currency, the more secrets you have, the more money you got... That is if you are wanting to ever socialize with one. If you play their game long enough you will ascend from a mere play thing to a player, thats when you are a threat! A being who just kills is easy to deal with, just stay away from them, one that socialize will attract more, and many arrogant will come to you.
Two things that will help. Learn how to play chess really well. Read Art of War. Art of War is like a bible to me. You will find that it will change how you view life, interact with life and comperhiend life will be changed by it.
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Personally I think you should stick to the football it's much more interesting than demons or demon hunting.Not to mention that 2 a days will be strating before long for you so how much time can you devote to this endeavor?Lastly,I think science has shown that demons dont exist at least there hasnt been any empirical,scientific evidence supporting any claim for actual demon existence.Whatever you choose I hope you'll let the scientific method guide you.Stay well & keep me posted how football goes,ok?
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I never said you arent able to get some, it was just my way to make you think about stuff people your age do. Nothing else. And I do that cause I wouldnt like to hear you were hurt or something like that.....
Good for you for choosing to wait and learn in next two years, knowledge is the best weapon, and people much older than both me and you still learn cause they see the holes in the picture. Knowledge is the power, not muscles. I hope you will one day see why I say so.
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I never said you arent able to get some, it was just my way to make you think about stuff people your age do. Nothing else. And I do that cause I wouldnt like to hear you were hurt or something like that.....
Good for you for choosing to wait and learn in next two years, knowledge is the best weapon, and people much older than both me and you still learn cause they see the holes in the picture. Knowledge is the power, not muscles. I hope you will one day see why I say so.
Indeed this is true. I reviewed a few demons from a demonology list I found and have learned a few of the well-known antagonists.
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aw so we have demon hunter aye? how very...interesting, so have any of you sent one of them bastards back to hell?... ya know for a while I thought it might only be me and my brother sending em back, nice to know we have help out there.
don't let your guard down, even for a second.
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Why send them back to hell, why not destroy them on the spot? Sending them to hell is useless, that is if it is really hell you are sending them to. If a enemey is on your plane, destroy their very existance, don't send back to their own plane. :doh:
You sound like you stereo type things a lot. Hey, what is some thing covered in scales, breaths fire and fly? Is that a demon to? What is some thing with horns and red eyes? A demon to? Some thing with claws and sharp fangs? A demon to? Some thing that easily ways over a thousand pounds and eats any thing, a demon to? What is some thing that sings you to sleep and some times takes your soul away if she wills it so, is a that a demon to?
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what do you think happens when you destroy a demon on this plane? it just dissapears and is never seen again... hell is just a manner of speaking if they where sent back then they would just return, but since none of the demons my brother and I have "deported" have returned to get payback, or even heard of any action of the demons that have been sent back, who knows maby they are just laying low or maby we don't do our job that well, but thing is for sure the bastards we get read of stopped their s**t... maby for the time being... oh and the thing that weigh's of thousands of pounds and eats everything sounds like a kid that was at my high school.
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When you destroy it on the spot, it stops existing, it can't do any thing any more because it simply doesn't exist, no body, no nothing. Sending it to hell does nothing except maybe get it pissed off at you.
oh and the thing that weigh's of thousands of pounds and eats everything sounds like a kid that was at my high school.
LOL! Ok, maybe you do got some life. Good luck to you.
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well guess I'll try to destroy the rather then piss them off...even if pissing off demons is funny. now time to eat ramen, I'm starved
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Keep the attitude you have and I am sure you will do just fine.
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IS their a name you would like to be refered to?
I know in our personalyu messages i have probally anoyed you by not just spilling everything out but their are a few basic things you need to know.
most people think demon hunting is like how movie shows. the priest or christian baning the demon from the person or his presence. its not like that. To hunt sometimes you must be on the good side of bad. if you know what i mean. You can't be a pure person and hunt demons. SOmetimes you have to get a lil dirt on u.
second keep up with your psyical training that is good. But also train your mentality. You might be able to handle everything physicly but nothing mentaly. Demons don't attck you physicly most of the time. they do things mentaly they get into your head and use every fear memory or even though against you. SOme people go insane after faceing a demon b/c they just couldn't handle the mental stain it puts on you.
Third. you can't save everyone. Again this is not the movies or books. People will die. you aren't a hero your a hunter. You might have to see people die. You might have to witness a bloody mess. and sometimes you might just not make it in time to do anything.
Fourth. DOn't refuse help. From anyone. You aren't going to find the butiful pure people you want to befriend. SOmetimes you have to befriend the sinner the cruck someone who isn't what you would normaly accept into you friend.
fifth remember why you hunt. you don't hunt for you you don't hunt for god. you hunt for those who can't. you hunt to stop those who can't don't hunt. you fight to protech them. you fight to save them. and even if you can't save everyone you fight to hoor the memory of those who have died.
use these to become a hunter. Stop looking for a mentor look for a friend. a mentor will teach you to fight. but a friend will fight beside you. Learn as you go but accpet all knowledge given to you by your friends. and plz share your knwledge with your friends. Become a hunter who not only is powerful but is great. A great friend. a great person. and great at living life.
This is Sandralmen Ravin Darkk Demon hunter of ohio. and i offer you my friendship
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Sixth, loon up or you are sure to die. People who are all tight up, tend to not be able to fight for the thing they live for because chances are they don't enjoy it.
Yo Sandman, loosen up some. You gave some great pointers, but every time you speak I feel like the way I felt when I was four and my mom was screaming at me. Its rather un-pleasant. I know you have a reason to be pissed off, but don't let that reason ruin your life.
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tybalt im not pissed off. i didn't say anything in an angry manor. i was just saynig stuff i belived would help him. im not yelling or angry im just being hunest.
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...... Hey! "Slew, evil demon" sound much better than "shot wanted criminal"
WHo else here thinks so?
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what do u mean raz?????????
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I know you weren't angry, but saying, when you type things up, you always sound like your pissed or some thing, just sound it, not saying you are.
I believe Raz means that if he is hunting a demon that is in another person's body, its a bad idea to shoot him any way, right Raz?
Thats why I am all about the martial arts, fark guns! Train spirit, body, soul, and mind.
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Body, mind, and spirit are ok, but 12 gauge and a katana couldn't hurt either. And if he wants to hunt, he should really learn occultism. I suggest the Necronomicon most of all.
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i suggest you think about what ur saying. the Necronomicon is a book that summons demons. he wants to be a demon hunter. he would be summoning the verything he wants to kill. i agree with the wepons thought. but i belive you should be pyhsicly fit mentally fit and spiritualy fit. but also have both sides ready for battle. physical wepons aren't nessisarly a bad thing
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... *Slaps both of you on the back of the head!* :doh:
You completely missed Raz.'s point!
Physical weapons can hurt! Hello, the law!? Sure, if you are not spiritually strong, mentally strong, oh and are just over looking your soul, then sure, you have no where left to go but physical weapons. Hmm, lets check how wars are started now. True demons aren't going to be hurt by guns any way, not inless the gun is accompained by three others and the gun itself is the imatinationg source of celestial stone, which isn't out of the ordinary, but still, its no longer a physical weapon.
Both of you are right and wrong about the necronomicon. The necronomicon can show you how to summon demons, but know thy enemy, it also has information on demons as well. The necronomicon is a relic that was written in a three times removed dead language (Yes, I have done my occultism, what about it!?) even if you found a translation in Latin, it would still be two times removed from any alive language, which would only give deluded information. Not to mention every one who has translated it has written a autobiography about it writing about how it was the worst mistake of their life. There are several other things I could give.
Dead line is, it could help him fight demons, but I would not suggest him searching for the original copy since he could not read it, nor should he read any other copy because of how deluded it is. Studying in occult is not bad, but I believe that is a given, thus telling him to learn in spirit.
Know thy self, and protect that idenity.
I now have lost total faith that any one can hunt a true demon... I guess that mean I will have to try it, thanks, I didn't need another thing to cause stress.
Give me a name a true demon goes by... I doubt any one knows any. Oh well, might as well hunt randomly.
Theres the logic I am seeing here.
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Tybalt one im not your child. even in here you have no right to touch me. two. physical wepons are not for the demon dumbass. What do you think demons work alone. They use people as well. there are those who follow demons i belive we call them satanist. they would not think twice of killing you. They will kill for fun. to gain respect. or even try an impress their master whitch ever demon they follow. you can have all ur mumbo jumbo but in the end only one thing kills a physical creature. I already said being a hunter isn't a clean job.
Tybalt have a son if you want to belittle someone. kill me if you want to belittle me. Other wise don't.
This time i am typeing angry
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The Necromonicon is a NOVEL written by H.P Lovecraft. Both of you seem to be labouring under the delusion that it is an actual spell book used for summoning demons when nothing could be further from the truth. :doh:
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Blow_fly, there are many necronomicons. If you are suggesting him read the one from H.P. Lovecraft, sure, I agree, couldn't hurt.
Sandralmen, the slaping in head was a joke. You need to loosen up. I am not be littling any one. Rather some one is a satanist or not will not stop you for going to jail for shooting them, and yes, TRUE demons work alone because they don't need any one when they have a world full of bodies to use. If you wish to combat a TRUE demon, you can't do it physically, and you can't shoot any minion it might have since you are restricted under the law. Prison sucks.
Speak to me in anger all you want, it won't stop me from laughing or saying you need to loosen up.
One of the guys on this forum completely insulted me with his humor, but I laugh, as long as some one stay windup, they won't live long, or feel much difference when they die. As I said, I understand why your windup.
Need to head to work.
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I have to correct that: Necronomicon was REWRITTEN by Lovecraft, but it is a real thing. Ask anyone who ever read it (did that mistake I mean) I had a privilege to know a guy who was first to translate it to my language. He is dead now (RIP last year). He was never normal after that, and many entities followed him during all his life. Yes, he did gain a knowledge, and yes he was a wise man, but his soul was never at rest and before he died he knew that finally he will get the peace he didnt have all his life. His life was full of misery and other crap that cursed ones have. And also I have to mention that his spirit WAS a strong one....... he was also an artist and I will post his work so you can all see what was going in his mind......
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*sits and watches the storm like a little kitten*
meow
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tybalt you won't belive me if i just tell you. go hunt a "true" demon. find out for your self. you belive demons have pride you will leqrn on one demon does. and if you face him you will die
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Blow_fly, there are many necronomicons. If you are suggesting him read the one from H.P. Lovecraft, sure, I agree, couldn't hurt.
Ahh. I was not aware of that fact. With there being more than one in existence, would it be possible for you to shed more light on the other Necromonicons whose origins cannot be traced to Lovecraft for the purpose of enlightening me on this matter
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Like the dreaded necroteleconomicon? the phone book of the dead! :mrgreen:
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Im talking about the one written by Abdhul Alzarhed. If he wants to truly gain the power of the necronomicon, he could always just translate back to latin and study it, after he learns latin of course.
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so, a greek book of the dead helps hunting demons? I guess, if they're dead...people. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/necronomicon)
"abdul's" necronomicon? (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/105-7950598-7803654?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=necronomicon&x=6&y=30)
i really prefer the history of mesopotamia, do you think you can take on ancient sumerian gods? (http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/godsmyth/g/sumeriandeities.htm)
start at the source...demonology (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04713a.htm)
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Yay Jordyn's back!
Indeed..... there are lots of other books around....... why don't you try to find Solomon's key while you're at it?(sarcasam)
Oh and here's a thought, if reincarnation was real..... by "destroying" demons, you'd actually be tying them to this world.
Cause there is no way to destroy a soul, unless you are GOD. right?
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Yay Jordyn's back!
Indeed..... there are lots of other books around....... why don't you try to find Solomon's key while you're at it?(sarcasam)
Oh and here's a thought, if reincarnation was real..... by "destroying" demons, you'd actually be tying them to this world.
Cause there is no way to destroy a soul, unless you are GOD. right?
why do you think he tossed the fallen angels into a pit, rather than make them cease to exist? ;)
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I would say it is not that easy for a human to completely destroy a soul..... not even the "evil" one......
And I wouldnt play with Sumerian gods.... maybe pray, but not play :wink:
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everyone everyone EVERYONE we got of topic. we are here to help the kid not discuss acient liteature. we are here to help him learn about demons and how to hunt them
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Banish them back to hell. don't tie them here on our plane, lest one reforms properly. there is no DEATH there is only change. and eventually entropy.
take their energy and make sure they cannot feed. it is the closest you'll ever get to "destroying" one.
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tybalt you won't belive me if i just tell you. go hunt a "true" demon. find out for your self. you belive demons have pride you will leqrn on one demon does. and if you face him you will die
LOL!
Buddy, you really do have no absolute clue who the hell you are talking to. True just because I am not a ignorant crusading fark off moron slaying any thing that has the name demon slapped on to it doesn't mean I have not seen, faced, and killed a true demon. I am no demon summoner, but I have summoned two demons. I am no demon hunter but I have killed a true demon. I am no puppet but I have allowed my self to be possed to better my gain. I know the things I do not because I went to go research them but because I had to face them (Exception of the necromicon, thats personal.). Just because you are not a demon hunter doesn't mean you can't kill a demon. All the methods you have ever spoken about using machines, (yes I count guns as machines.) will not work against a true demon, I find it also amusing on how the starter of this topic has not come to you for more advice.
Advice to you Sandman, learn some riddles. That may not make sense now, but it will help you later. Who knows, you could be talking to a demon and not even know it. :wink: <^>
I have to correct that: Necronomicon was REWRITTEN by Lovecraft, but it is a real thing. Ask anyone who ever read it (did that mistake I mean) I had a privilege to know a guy who was first to translate it to my language. He is dead now (RIP last year). He was never normal after that, and many entities followed him during all his life. Yes, he did gain a knowledge, and yes he was a wise man, but his soul was never at rest and before he died he knew that finally he will get the peace he didnt have all his life. His life was full of misery and other crap that cursed ones have. And also I have to mention that his spirit WAS a strong one....... he was also an artist and I will post his work so you can all see what was going in his mind......
As I said before, each person who translated the necronicom has also written a entire autobiography on how it was a mistake. I would like to talk more about this person with you Nina when I have more time. Time is some thing I do't have as you might have seen with my responses thining.
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tybalt by what you just said i am know 100% sure you have never seen a demon. i will not fight with you b/c it is like fighting with a child no matter what i say you will just deny. lets just say we dissagree and move on
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make peace, no war :-D
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You people have to be kidding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon
Edit: I wrote a whole post explaining exactly how and why you people are idiots, but you aren't worthy of hearing what I have to say. Just click the link, read the article, and shut up about things you know nothing about until you're done.
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Okay, I'm not going to comment on your sanity, I don't know you enough to judge that. This is what I will say. If you genuinely feel this is a calling, STUDY. Stop active hunting for now. Build up a base of knowledge so that when you do go out you have some kind of clue what you are dealing with. Study is the best thing you can do. Martial arts builds your spirituality & faith in yourself & a higher force. These are the things anyone going up against a spiritual force needs. At the same time, you are 16 & making a life decision like this is probably a mistake. Take your time, be a teenager, enjoy this time in your life. I think talking to someone may be a good idea. I am not saying you are crazy but having your mental state in order can only help if this is indeed a calling.
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tybalt by what you just said i am know 100% sure you have never seen a demon. i will not fight with you b/c it is like fighting with a child no matter what i say you will just deny. lets just say we dissagree and move on
LOL!
This is coming from a guy who said, "You have no right to touch me" in cyber space and who just said satanist have a habit of going around killing people for their religion, no I take that back for fun, and respect were your words. Ok listen to a child since you used child logic to put that together. If you read up on them, they are highly defensive, they are not allow to do any thing unless you do some thing to them.
Yes, it is possible for a random satanist to go around killing for fun because he is a physco, but it is also possible for a person who doesn't hunt demons to kill one. When you get people following you, or asking you for ledgitiment help on this forum, then trying to knock me down a peg or two.
Again, sorry, your last part was, lets just disagree and move on, you can't down some one and then expect to make peace with that. Some people just weren't meant for stragetic planing or negotaiting skills.
If you are going to try and get a subject going on, you say, lets just agree to disagree and move on, not stick a hey fark you note in front of the guy.
Your begining to get funnier than the guy we both had a problem with. Is it common for you to try and fight some one who is generally on your side but has a different opinion on how to climb the mountain. If you didn't get that saying, let me put it in a different term for you then, one you love to talk so much about.
Is it common for you to get into fights with people who handle their demonic problems differently from you.
Okay, I'm not going to comment on your sanity, I don't know you enough to judge that. This is what I will say. If you genuinely feel this is a calling, STUDY. Stop active hunting for now. Build up a base of knowledge so that when you do go out you have some kind of clue what you are dealing with. Study is the best thing you can do. Martial arts builds your spirituality & faith in yourself & a higher force. These are the things anyone going up against a spiritual force needs. At the same time, you are 16 & making a life decision like this is probably a mistake. Take your time, be a teenager, enjoy this time in your life. I think talking to someone may be a good idea. I am not saying you are crazy but having your mental state in order can only help if this is indeed a calling.
Its cool dude, I thought he anounced it but I have him taking a two year break before he goes demon hunting to do that exact thing. The kid was my example of some of the people who come to me on the forums, as I have said before, I am no expert on demons, how ever my experience I am willing to share, that and I also know many sources where he can look. That is, if he is still interested in this life at the end of the two years.
This forum was sortive already finished before Sandman and the other guy who told him to pick up a gun came here. I am begining to see that threads often die and then come back to life.
I think the Moderators need to make it so that the starters of a thread can lock it as well.
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does this mean you've stopped arguing?
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tybalt so far every time you reply to anything i said you belittled me and expected me to mmove on orjust agree with you. im sry. from what i have seen on the feild in the books and from acualt word of mouth you are wrong. and untill you can show me physicaly i will never agree nor belive you. one i ask no one to follow me. i only give info whitch i personaly know to be true. No but i do have a problem when people look down on me. everytime you talk to me i feel you talk to me as if im a three year old child. shino was just a fool. climb the moutain any way you want follow the trail go off the beaten path or forge your own. But don't look at the climber going up as well as if he isn't as worthy as you are.
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guess not.
alright, one warning. stop insulting,criticizing and questioning each other's experiences and/or character. or else i shall be forced to lock this thread.
Do we have an accord?
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tybalt so far every time you reply to anything i said you belittled me and expected me to mmove on orjust agree with you. im sry. from what i have seen on the feild in the books and from acualt word of mouth you are wrong. and untill you can show me physicaly i will never agree nor belive you. one i ask no one to follow me. i only give info whitch i personaly know to be true. No but i do have a problem when people look down on me. everytime you talk to me i feel you talk to me as if im a three year old child. shino was just a fool. climb the moutain any way you want follow the trail go off the beaten path or forge your own. But don't look at the climber going up as well as if he isn't as worthy as you are.
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I can see where I said loosen up came out as be-littling you. I am sorry, I did not mean for it to come out like that. I guess we have extremely different fighting styles.
Good luck with yours. No, that is not belittlig that is literal consent from me.
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Truce
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everyone everyone EVERYONE we got of topic. we are here to help the kid not discuss acient liteature. we are here to help him learn about demons and how to hunt them
ummm, where do demons come from? to know what you're truly fighting you sort of need to know where they came from...go up against one of the "gods" popping about with the intent of killing some servitor and well...that's like dropping an average person in the middle of a hostile war zone with a gun and telling them there's only a few left to kill.
Buddy, you really do have no absolute clue who the hell you are talking to. True just because I am not a ignorant crusading fark off moron slaying any thing that has the name demon slapped on to it doesn't mean I have not seen, faced, and killed a true demon. I am no demon summoner, but I have summoned two demons. I am no demon hunter but I have killed a true demon. I am no puppet but I have allowed my self to be possed to better my gain. I know the things I do not because I went to go research them but because I had to face them (Exception of the necromicon, thats personal.). Just because you are not a demon hunter doesn't mean you can't kill a demon. All the methods you have ever spoken about using machines, (yes I count guns as machines.) will not work against a true demon, I find it also amusing on how the starter of this topic has not come to you for more advice.
and i've never had to summon anything, they come to me. *shrugs* i've lived with them my entire life, in the beginning having no clue what they were; but found no need to fight them...it wasn't until after i began to actively seek out who they were that i realized what they were, i don't have to fight them, just ignore them letting my god deal with it, it's not my place to judge...anything.
your suggestion that people should just jump up and kill without knowing what's vexing them, is seriously bad advice...it's one thing if they're familiar with their world, but for someone who just decides one day they want to kill demons...not everything out there terrorizing humanity is a demon and not all "true demons" are devils.
you make it sound to easy and it concerns me that people would be so flippant about taking on creatures that have had eons to perfect their technique.
how are they going to know what they're fighting?
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Once again, i am humbled..........*bows before jordyn*
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and i've never had to summon anything, they come to me. *shrugs* i've lived with them my entire life, in the beginning having no clue what they were; but found no need to fight them...it wasn't until after i began to actively seek out who they were that i realized what they were, i don't have to fight them, just ignore them letting my god deal with it, it's not my place to judge...anything.
your suggestion that people should just jump up and kill without knowing what's vexing them, is seriously bad advice...it's one thing if they're familiar with their world, but for someone who just decides one day they want to kill demons...not everything out there terrorizing humanity is a demon and not all "true demons" are devils.
you make it sound to easy and it concerns me that people would be so flippant about taking on creatures that have had eons to perfect their technique.
how are they going to know what they're fighting?
I think you misread what I wrote.
I never said go jump and kill what is vexing them, I said just because that is NOT my style doesn't mean I haven't killed or seen what I have killed and seen. And to put myself for your standards, the true demon I did kill, I did have a reason, a damn good one at that.
Just because the method of killing them is simple doesn't mean it is easy. Many things are easier said than done. Use spirit, or all four celestial elements. FOr the first one, you have to have a strong spirit, for the second one, you have to have three people that most likely don't get along, guns don't work. Its easy and simple to say, sure, but not easy to do. If I have made it sound easy to kill a True demon then well my bad. Let me clarify, TRUE DEMONS ARE NEVER EASY TO KILL.
True, people over look the fact that True demons have eons of experience, at least the ones that make it here do (Younger ones aren't powerful enough.) but many who do not over look this, DO over look the fact that True demons have several disadvantages to them, they are not all powerful gawds, they have way to many flaws for that. Again, I will clarify, ITS NEVER EASY TO KILL A TRUE DEMON! Ever want to knock a demon down a peg or two, exploit those disadvantages and never forget they have them like they want you to, again, this is also NOT EASY!
There, happy, if any of that sounds easy then apparrently I am going to have to say not easy after every sentence.
(BTW, demons come to you, odd. Can you tell me more through a PM, I'm interested.)
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Old demon... new demon... what really is the difference? They ARE of other realm, and thus very tricky and hard to get. That is why they dont teach young ones in schools to do such things I guess...
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Old demons are smarter and thus harder to handle even when you out brute them.
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and i've never had to summon anything, they come to me. *shrugs* i've lived with them my entire life, in the beginning having no clue what they were; but found no need to fight them...it wasn't until after i began to actively seek out who they were that i realized what they were, i don't have to fight them, just ignore them letting my god deal with it, it's not my place to judge...anything.
your suggestion that people should just jump up and kill without knowing what's vexing them, is seriously bad advice...it's one thing if they're familiar with their world, but for someone who just decides one day they want to kill demons...not everything out there terrorizing humanity is a demon and not all "true demons" are devils.
you make it sound to easy and it concerns me that people would be so flippant about taking on creatures that have had eons to perfect their technique.
how are they going to know what they're fighting?
I think you misread what I wrote.
I never said go jump and kill what is vexing them, I said just because that is NOT my style doesn't mean I haven't killed or seen what I have killed and seen. And to put myself for your standards, the true demon I did kill, I did have a reason, a damn good one at that.
Just because the method of killing them is simple doesn't mean it is easy. Many things are easier said than done. Use spirit, or all four celestial elements. FOr the first one, you have to have a strong spirit, for the second one, you have to have three people that most likely don't get along, guns don't work. Its easy and simple to say, sure, but not easy to do. If I have made it sound easy to kill a True demon then well my bad. Let me clarify, TRUE DEMONS ARE NEVER EASY TO KILL.
True, people over look the fact that True demons have eons of experience, at least the ones that make it here do (Younger ones aren't powerful enough.) but many who do not over look this, DO over look the fact that True demons have several disadvantages to them, they are not all powerful gawds, they have way to many flaws for that. Again, I will clarify, ITS NEVER EASY TO KILL A TRUE DEMON! Ever want to knock a demon down a peg or two, exploit those disadvantages and never forget they have them like they want you to, again, this is also NOT EASY!
There, happy, if any of that sounds easy then apparrently I am going to have to say not easy after every sentence.
(BTW, demons come to you, odd. Can you tell me more through a PM, I'm interested.)
no need for pm, they're just there, demons, ghosts, strange lights and the sort, i don't know if it's a family thing, psychic thing or any other thing that's easy to describe...*shrugs* maybe you either have it or you don't?
It's not odd, just sensitive i guess and why i don't believe people can efficiently "hunt" demons, how do they know what they're hunting?
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its in our blood to know
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so you know what demons are than?
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What they are their essence. no i don't know their biology. i don't know their chemical make-up i just know what is a demon and what is not. thats really all i can say. i mean. you ither know or you don't
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Intuition has proven false before.
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Here is what I do:
I give out religious literature (yeah Im that guy), and I feel out the enviroment. If I feel resistance or "pressure" then thats a hot spot. If I knock at a door and "resistance" to the word of God then I might suspect that place (I know not many people open doors, but its a deeper darker feeling). Then at night I go back to these hotspots and pray for deliverance, If there is something in there then is show time, if not...prayer never hurt anyone :-) . I wont go to the exact place nither, a stand far and they come to me. Never step into their turf unless you are prepared. Thats just some of my strategy, hope it helps
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Raz so have science. nothing is perfect. do what u think is right. so far intuition has never proven false to me
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well from wat i see on this topic demons attack emotion they will make it seem like you have no one so my advise is to hit ground zero experince that state then when they do this youll be ready
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The necronomicon...
They don't sell it at Barnes and Nobles I guess. *<:)
I was like "DO you guys have a necromonicon?"
The lady was like
:-o then... :-( then... <^>
"No." She said rasply and then flew away.
It made me sad. :cry:
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she flew awsome. lol just messing with ya. ya if you want a good copy find a private book dealer who specializes in the occult. that or look online
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Yes, or go to an antique book store... they keep all the fun stuff hiding under the counter....
oh, I have a funny story concerning me buying books in an occult store...ok, this is it: once I wanted to buy myself a book, doesnt matter which, and I walked into an Occult store, the owner of which was a REAL :-o witch, and so there I was, searching through the shelves, and took a book of Crowley, and asked "how much for this?" cause there was no price on it, and she was reading tarot simultaneously, and trowed one on the table, looked at me, then again at the card, and said in not really polite manner: "Not for you!"... so I turned around, cursing her silently, and leaved the shop never to return.... Now, you tell me, what the hell did she mean by that???
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Honestly I am surprised a witch would have a Crowley book. Most Wiccans/witches I know won't have anything to do with him. The tarot thing was probably her asking if the book was something you should possess & the answer was obviously no. You are actually quite fortunate to have such an honest occult shop. Many are more concerned with making money than in mking sure things don't get into the "wrong" hands. I bet if you went back & asked the lady what she meant she would be more than happy to tell you. I'd actully really be interested if you didn't mind sharing what she tells you. The plus side she probably knows how to get some more esoteric/rare books with good information in them. Try to develop a relationship.
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The necronomicon...
They don't sell it at Barnes and Nobles I guess. *<:)
I was like "DO you guys have a necromonicon?"
The lady was like
:-o then... :-( then... <^>
"No." She said rasply and then flew away.
It made me sad. :cry:
they have several versions at our borders store...including simon's spell book.
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Honestly I am surprised a witch would have a Crowley book. Most Wiccans/witches I know won't have anything to do with him. The tarot thing was probably her asking if the book was something you should possess & the answer was obviously no. You are actually quite fortunate to have such an honest occult shop. Many are more concerned with making money than in mking sure things don't get into the "wrong" hands. I bet if you went back & asked the lady what she meant she would be more than happy to tell you. I'd actully really be interested if you didn't mind sharing what she tells you. The plus side she probably knows how to get some more esoteric/rare books with good information in them. Try to develop a relationship.
crowley is crowley, not any mystical beast, just a drug empowered ego maniac that had some interestingly peculiar ideas concerning the occult and sexuality, i don't think it's not necessarily "nothing to do with him" but more so there are better authors out there when it comes to witchery, crowley was never the witch but always the magician.
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Agree. Also, that witch was more into the dark side, if you follow me. And that shop is closed now.....
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sometimes i miss the dark side. :/
our local store closed out to, but aure was awesome, she had a little of everything in that store.
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the problem with this post is that the person who started this thread is 16 and has no idea about anything about demons so hears the best advice for it: STAY AWAY FROM THINGS YOUR NOT SUPPOSE TO MESS WITH!!! I would understand more if you were going to college and was interested and wanted a career in demonology but your not even out of high school yet sooooo.... I truthfully believe that it is ignorant and dangerous to go meadling in things you don't understand about. Its one thing to know more about it thats fine but to do it should be left to the professonals.
demons feed on your fears and anything that they can use against you (like maybe your lust, anger, etc...) and thats all you really have to know about them. demons like to press against those that are more pure, i guess would be a more appropriate word. Demons are also sometimes an allusion of negative energy around a person that is pure and then because they want that positive energy manifests themselves into a more physical form to create a balance within themselves.
Think of demons and angels all being part of a big scale. Everything needs to be balanced. The problem is that good outweights the bad so the bad trys to weigh itself and create more bad. Humans are one of the few things that can be influenced by either one of these because the balance has not a great effect on humans (aka free will). Its still there though.
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i meant a private book delear not a store. and if she said not for you she probaly new what you planed to do with it and at ur age she prob didn't trust you to treat it respecfuly. books are a wounderful thing. they will out last time no matter when they were wrote
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If you can, perhaps check this out:
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/30534746/necronomicon?tab=summary
I've downloaded it, however I am not sure if this copy is the original legendary necronomicon.
I had no idea that it was an actual book.
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the problem with this post is that the person who started this thread is 16 and has no idea about anything about demons so hears the best advice for it: STAY AWAY FROM THINGS YOUR NOT SUPPOSE TO MESS WITH!!! I would understand more if you were going to college and was interested and wanted a career in demonology but your not even out of high school yet sooooo.... I truthfully believe that it is ignorant and dangerous to go meadling in things you don't understand about. Its one thing to know more about it thats fine but to do it should be left to the professonals.
demons feed on your fears and anything that they can use against you (like maybe your lust, anger, etc...) and thats all you really have to know about them. demons like to press against those that are more pure, i guess would be a more appropriate word. Demons are also sometimes an allusion of negative energy around a person that is pure and then because they want that positive energy manifests themselves into a more physical form to create a balance within themselves.
Think of demons and angels all being part of a big scale. Everything needs to be balanced. The problem is that good outweights the bad so the bad trys to weigh itself and create more bad. Humans are one of the few things that can be influenced by either one of these because the balance has not a great effect on humans (aka free will). Its still there though.
You're a day late and a dollar short. :wink:
And placing the statement that just because I'm young that I
have ignorance towards the nature of demons.
I studied into it and it wasn't cut out to what I thought.
I've had a three day phenomenon with one. It was frightening,
but I loved fear. <^>
But I'm not into dieing or being torn apart.
A love life sounds much more desirable. If you know what I mean. Petling does. *<:) *<:) *<:)
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the problem with this post is that the person who started this thread is 16 and has no idea about anything about demons so hears the best advice for it: STAY AWAY FROM THINGS YOUR NOT SUPPOSE TO MESS WITH!!! I would understand more if you were going to college and was interested and wanted a career in demonology but your not even out of high school yet sooooo.... I truthfully believe that it is ignorant and dangerous to go meadling in things you don't understand about. Its one thing to know more about it thats fine but to do it should be left to the professonals.
demons feed on your fears and anything that they can use against you (like maybe your lust, anger, etc...) and thats all you really have to know about them. demons like to press against those that are more pure, i guess would be a more appropriate word. Demons are also sometimes an allusion of negative energy around a person that is pure and then because they want that positive energy manifests themselves into a more physical form to create a balance within themselves.
Think of demons and angels all being part of a big scale. Everything needs to be balanced. The problem is that good outweights the bad so the bad trys to weigh itself and create more bad. Humans are one of the few things that can be influenced by either one of these because the balance has not a great effect on humans (aka free will). Its still there though.
You're a day late and a dollar short. :wink:
And placing the statement that just because I'm young that I
have ignorance towards the nature of demons.
I studied into it and it wasn't cut out to what I thought.
I've had a three day phenomenon with one. It was frightening,
but I loved fear. <^>
But I'm not into dieing or being torn apart.
A love life sounds much more desirable. If you know what I mean. Petling does. *<:) *<:) *<:)
I'm into dying and being torn apart.
TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW.
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demons don't care about age. they won't see the diffrence between a child and an adult they see nothing more than a human. thats it. in this fight age doesn't count. it weather or not you can fight.
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I'd listen and study if I were you. Its better that way. I really suggest studying the occult because its a good idea to know what your up against. Also find a few other hunters in your area that you could join up with for the sake gaining knowledge and understanding.
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I'd listen and study if I were you. Its better that way. I really suggest studying the occult because its a good idea to know what your up against. Also find a few other hunters in your area that you could join up with for the sake gaining knowledge and understanding.
Alright then, thanks.
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Its amazing how this thread is still alive with out you man, lol. Its like a little demonic spawn of you.
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The only advice from me would go to the library and research demonology there are books like te encyclopedia of spiris and demons go on sites that are didicated to demonology.Join other groups or sites like www.iamhaunted.com look up the master of demonology John Zaffis his aunt and ucle are the foundrs of modern day demonology. Start out wih just ghost hunting because yo'll come in contact with demons and nonhuman entities. What your doing would be like hopping a plane to Iraq and grabbing a gun and fighting wihout any basic training. I beieve you are on a mission, but be careful what you ask for because sooner or laeer you'll get more han you wanted. Yes it is noble of a cause but you have your whole life to build up to being a demonologist and if you get an atachment your whole family will be at jepardy. If you have younger siblings they will end up in more danger than you and I bet you didnt want that to happen. You have to research first then go slowly you cant jump head first into the demonic with no rope so to speak. you'll end up doing more harm than good. When s**t hits the fan there is no time out.Exorcist are trained priest who devote years upon years before they even see there first case. Once its started you have to go on till one side wins theres no retreating or saying hey I was just kidding truce. I am not knocking you for your enthusiasm.Its not like a movie and the director yells cut, this is real life evil. good luck my friend
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This is one very reasonable and wise advice. Good to follow in more cases, not just demon hunting. And so very true.