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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #150 on: September 13, 2009, 07:18:34 PM »
Ahhh, suddenly I have a vision of the christian god as some freak who is male on one side of his profile, then, when he turns to the other side, he has a female profile...

Also, "Devil" stands for the religious entity only if the "d" is capitalized. In the event that it is not, it can refer to any number or type of malevolent or heathen creatures.

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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #151 on: September 14, 2009, 12:43:53 AM »
To answer the question: DEVIL

Aw great DEVIL= Da' Evil.

Ergo people were just too lazy to write "the evil."
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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #152 on: September 14, 2009, 01:08:06 AM »
Finally someone who got my silly letter joke!  :lol:

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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #153 on: September 14, 2009, 02:16:40 AM »
Id guess that the devil is kind of like a disgruntled employee. God didnt give him the promotion he wanted, and so after eons of workin for this man he dosnt get this promotion and just goes apes**t. Post office principle, but on a bigger scale with two armies on either side. So if we assume from the original post that Lucifers original post has him punishing the wicked, then would it be safe to assume thats all he really knew. Therefore, he would be compelled to do so, however he wants to start his own business where hes the boss, so he cant rightly call it heaven can he? i mean thats gotta have a copyright. so he calls it hell, slaps on some fire, paints himself red and BOOM, he's in business.

Now, in all seriousness, i dont know whether Lucifer is evil, but if we look at the book of Job, then we see that Lucifer actually converses with God, in Heaven. God says "See this guy Job, that guy just loves me" Devil says "bet i can change that" God says bring it. So id say that hes there to keep us on our toes. Maybe there is another evil out there, that isnt described in the Bible?
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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #154 on: September 14, 2009, 02:38:30 AM »
Very good point you got there Whitedrake, a very good point!

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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #155 on: September 14, 2009, 02:45:33 AM »
Take note im not saying there isnt a greater evil out there,a Devil. Im just saying that Lucifer may not be it. The Holy Bible has gone through many edits before getting where it is now, take that into consideration when consulting it. God gaves us free will, and men could have altered that text to suit their own needs. I submit that hell was not created by God, but possibly it is a construct of another being, one who preys on the morally wretched of existence. Think of Lucifer as a test, if you fail his tests you can still redeem yourself but it puts you that much closer to truely evil things.
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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #156 on: September 14, 2009, 03:12:32 AM »
Yeah, it always confused me cause Lucifer means something like "bearer of Light" and Light is good sooo... you can see my confusion there   :roll:

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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #157 on: September 14, 2009, 03:26:15 AM »
well if i remember correctly, he was Gods favorite before the fall.
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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #158 on: September 14, 2009, 03:52:44 AM »
Lucifer also refers to the Bringer of Light or the Morning Star. This would link Lucifer to Venus as Venus is also seen as the Morning Star?
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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #159 on: September 14, 2009, 04:20:01 AM »
I think that is right. a good student.  :lol:

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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #160 on: September 14, 2009, 04:34:51 AM »
Lucifer also refers to the Bringer of Light or the Morning Star. This would link Lucifer to Venus as Venus is also seen as the Morning Star?

No, not "Morning Star" - it's "MOURNING Star".

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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #161 on: September 14, 2009, 04:43:58 AM »
Lucifer also refers to the Bringer of Light or the Morning Star. This would link Lucifer to Venus as Venus is also seen as the Morning Star?

No, not "Morning Star" - it's "MOURNING Star".

Are you joking or could you expand please? Because as far as I knew, it was Morning Star...
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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #162 on: September 14, 2009, 04:45:24 AM »
no its not:

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Lucifer is a Latin word, literally meaning "light-bearer", that was used as a name for the "day star" or "morning star" that precedes the rising of the sun.


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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #163 on: September 14, 2009, 10:35:35 AM »
He has also been referred to in some texts as the "Star of Mourning"; referring back to his rebellion and subsequent fall. He has been so called because of the mourning of god when he fell from grace. Personally, the two are probably interchangeable.

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Re: Is The Devil Actually Evil?
« Reply #164 on: September 14, 2009, 11:00:25 AM »
Ok how many theories do we have as of the moment? Can anyone here post a summary?
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