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Title: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 09, 2011, 05:22:19 pm
(http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/a/alien_spaceship-2780.jpg)

UFO encounters became especially frequent in the middle of the 20th century, when it became impossible to disregard incidents of UFO sightings anymore. Special services started establishing special departments for air defense troops, secret laboratories were organized to study the phenomenon. It is not ruled out, that secret services have already had chances to study fragments of alien spaceships or even aliens themselves.

It is about time science should say its word regarding the problem, and it did. SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), an independent non-commercial organization, released a sensational statement.

Three giant spaceships are heading towards Earth. The largest one of them is 240 kilometers wide. Two others are smaller. At present, the objects are beyond the orbit of Pluto.

The spaceships were detected by HAARP search system. The system, based in Alaska, was designed to study the phenomenon of northern lights. According to SETI researchers, the objects are nothing but extraterrestrial spaceships. They will be visible in optical telescopes as soon as they reach Mars's orbit. The US government has been reportedly informed about the event. The ships will reach Earth in December 2012.



the rest of the article at: http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/22-12-2010/116314-giant_spaceships-0/# (http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/22-12-2010/116314-giant_spaceships-0/#)


ps: yeah, i know ill more then likely burn with all but my last words will be: TOLD YA SO!!! :-D


pps: this sh@t about HAARP being there to study polar lights... what a bunch of cow doo  :lol:
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: TheCopperDragon on January 09, 2011, 05:56:09 pm
If they're spaceships and not just an UFO, then why assume it's an attack? Why even assume that they are heading straight for earth? Pluto is quite a ways. Maybe they'll take a left at Saturn and we'll never see or hear from it again...

I wonder why everyone's always so concerned about the end?  :|

Then again, being some 2012 researcher with a federal grant... it DOES create new jobs and would help stimulate the economy. At least until the world ends.

Interesting find, though I wouldn't be too worried about it for a while.
 
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Brendon87 on January 09, 2011, 05:57:06 pm
for beings so advanced, they sure take thier time to get here lol
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: TheCopperDragon on January 09, 2011, 06:03:48 pm
for beings so advanced, they sure take thier time to get here lol

Actually for being just beyond pluto, two years isn't bad... In fact, we'd have already explored mars and maybe other plants if we could do that.

I'll wager a ducat that NASA is jealous.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 09, 2011, 06:26:44 pm
And once again, we humans make presumptions based on HUMAN way of thinking. Try widening mind a bit more, not all is 3 or 4 dimensional  :wink: And true, maybe they not coming to attack, maybe its a "Peace mission to save the resources and peace"  *<:) oh, wait, ive heard that one before  :roll:

@ Brendon: what is "advanced" for you? Are you thinking in HUMAN ways or SPACE -CONTINUUM travelers way?  <^>
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: onishadowolf on January 09, 2011, 09:16:54 pm
I really don't see the point in a frontal attack. They have already been here, they know how we work and an up front attack cost too many resources and collateral damage. No, you go in commando style, take what you want and get out. Or biological weapons snuck in and detonated. But this could all be moot if it's just a scouting party or forerunners of the original designers of our species.

Btw; advanced or not so advanced, basic military strategy doesn't change by much. This and other things is what my opinion is based on.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 09, 2011, 10:30:55 pm
 Lets try to back off of the "attack" theory for now  :wink: Again, you assume the ones coming would be the ones that are already here. Also, following your logic, if those arent the ones that are already here, why do you speak of original designers of our species scouting party? Dont you think that, by that, our designers would leave a large amount of Watchers, and second, why would they return now? I wanna see what you think :)
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: onishadowolf on January 09, 2011, 10:50:37 pm
A Scouting party of a unknown faction/race/society/species....not of the original designers. Forerunners meaning of a advancement from a fleet formation of the Old Ones(A.K.A. Original designers) coming to end the tenure of the watchers.


It's nearing an end of a cycle, a shift swap is in order. lol

There's more hints/evidence of visitations by numerous factions, species, governmental detachments, privateers, and treasure hunters than of just a one single species.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 09, 2011, 11:10:08 pm
Check my old posts, you will find I wrote about it all  :wink:
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: onishadowolf on January 09, 2011, 11:29:08 pm
Hmmm, I will do that. I have my own theories on our origins and extraterrestrial visits and so forth, but they do coincide with some others out there.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 09, 2011, 11:33:57 pm
Well, if anyone knows of that, its me ;) problem begins when you start talking about it all all over the place, not just internet  :-D The thing with belief is like it, no one has to believe you, but you KNOW theres something out there  :wink: or as agent Fox would say: The Truth is OUT there!
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: onishadowolf on January 09, 2011, 11:40:34 pm
True, luckily I know how to word it right.

The truth is out there, somewhere....but knowing the truth is what causes some to go mad though. Have to find that happy medium.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 09, 2011, 11:42:18 pm
See, thats where we are different, truth is not about happy customers ;)
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: onishadowolf on January 09, 2011, 11:49:44 pm
Nothing to do with happy customers, just keeping a shred of sanity is all I'm for.

But then again, mine has been gone for a while.  Not everyone can act sane though.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 09, 2011, 11:55:15 pm
Why act sane when world gone crazy?  :lol: *<:)
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: onishadowolf on January 10, 2011, 12:09:26 am
To keep a acceptable facade in place, while you do your research without persecution. And/or stupid modern day witch trial.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 10, 2011, 12:46:20 am
Heh, couldnt agree more
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Devious Viper on January 10, 2011, 07:12:57 am
From the SETI website (http://www.seti.org/page.aspx?pid=1539):

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Internet Rumor of Inbound 2012 Spaceships Untrue
NO Spaceships Headed for Earth

Has the SETI Institute discovered three objects en route to our world?  Alien spacecraft that will arrive in 2012?

If you believe a widespread story now being circulated on the internet, and published by the ironically named “Pravda”, you might think so.  But it’s all nonsense – it’s a rumor, a hoax, and a fabrication that uncritical web sites have reprinted without checking.

A few aspects of the story that are obviously suspect:

1. The objects, now described as a few hundred kilometers in size, and “beyond the orbit of Pluto”, were apparently discovered by SETI using the HAARP radio array.  To begin with, the HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) instrument is located in Alaska.  The position of the three “incoming” objects is given as -90 degrees declination – or the south celestial pole.  Anyone versed in even elementary geometry can recognize that you can’t see this part of the sky from Alaska!  In addition, and of clear import, neither the SETI Institute nor any other SETI project makes use of HAARP.

2. In the original version of this article http://www.examiner.com/ufo-in-canada/3-very-large-objects-space-flying-to-earth, (http://www.examiner.com/ufo-in-canada/3-very-large-objects-space-flying-to-earth,) purported SETI astrophysicist Craig Kasnov is quoted as saying that the three objects are in-bound.  No one named Craig Kasnov has ever worked at the SETI Institute.  There is a media and conservation professional by name of Craig Kasnoff, who – with David Gedye – came up with the idea of the SETI@home screen saver many years ago.  But he has explicitly noted that he has nothing to do with this story, and in fact the article itself points out that it is referencing “Kasnov” not “Kasnoff.”  So the story rests on the testimony of a fictional character.

3. If the SETI Institute had, indeed, found three clearly artificial objects headed for Earth (or just about anywhere else), that news would be found here on its web site.  It would also be in the mainstream media.  It’s not.

The putative arrival in 2012 of objects from another world is no more believable than the Mayan calendar claim that the world will end in that same year, internet stories notwithstanding!

Dr. Seth Shostak
Senior Astronomer, SETI Institute

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Or are they just covering it up?   :spy:
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 10, 2011, 10:37:07 am

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Or are they just covering it up?    :spy:

Id always go with a good ol cover up, but thats just me  :roll:
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: markus on January 10, 2011, 12:01:08 pm
I truly believe life is out there but not 3 spaceships, if there was, they are real advanced and they would be here shortly
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Muerte on January 10, 2011, 01:07:31 pm
  One wonders.  2012 is the ends of life as we know it.  The arrival of Intergalactic visitors would be an end to what we know and believe would it not.  Both Scientifically and Religiously.  One wonders.  One also has patients to wait until the time arrives to see what will happen.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on January 10, 2011, 11:17:07 pm
@Markus: these are not the first reports of huge spaceships on their way to Earth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33uvhjp7U5Y


@Muerte: we will see, not too long to wait is there?  :wink:
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Muerte on January 11, 2011, 09:24:13 am
  No there is not and I for one strongly hope that it is a simple change in our percetion of life as opposed to some unforseen catastrophy.  I retire (at age 38) in 2016.  I very much hope to enjoy that and the rest of my very long retirement.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on June 11, 2011, 07:01:45 pm
Considering your dexterity and intelligence, there's a good chance you will. Third factor is pure luck.  :-fly)
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Raziel on June 11, 2011, 08:31:45 pm
Aliens!
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on June 11, 2011, 09:58:57 pm
 :spy:

where?
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Earth_Wyrm on June 12, 2011, 07:30:50 pm
Don't worry, guys. As long as Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum are still alive, everything'll be fine.

Oh, and let's not forget the former abductee who rams his fighter jet into the alien mothership.  *<:)

Seriously, though, if these guys are the Original Creators of our species, doesn't it creep you out to think what they might've created us for?
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on June 12, 2011, 10:03:13 pm
Probably for jobs we usually hire people from third world countries for  :roll:
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: ravinclaw on June 14, 2011, 07:07:34 am
Or for entertainment. Maybe they like to watch us blow s**t up.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: AWBrielle on June 14, 2011, 10:44:37 am
@Ravin "My human killed your human's mom!" "Well, my human blew up your city." It's like LEGOs.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on June 14, 2011, 11:15:58 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI807kYRQfk

 *<:)
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: matthew321 on June 16, 2011, 09:13:55 pm
From the SETI website (http://www.seti.org/page.aspx?pid=1539):


1. The objects, now described as a few hundred kilometers in size, and “beyond the orbit of Pluto”, were apparently discovered by SETI using the HAARP radio array.  To begin with, the HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) instrument is located in Alaska.  The position of the three “incoming” objects is given as -90 degrees declination – or the south celestial pole.  Anyone versed in even elementary geometry can recognize that you can’t see this part of the sky from Alaska!  In addition, and of clear import, neither the SETI Institute nor any other SETI project makes use of HAARP.

Dr. Seth Shostak
Senior Astronomer, SETI Institute

---------------

Or are they just covering it up?   :spy:

Now I am an ignorant civilian for questioning SETI here, but doesn't the earth move? I am pretty sure that the earth rotates and that Alaska is on the earth. So if the earth rotates with Alaska on it, maybe Alaska moves too? (very slowly)

Then I have the problem of HAARP being used to distinguish items in space. I doubt high frequencies or any sound travel through space. (or if they did, would anyone be around to hear it?, similar to if a tree falls in the woods...)
Or if the frequencies are light based (which would make more sense) then why do we have this HAARP thing again? Do we not have the big telescopes and other facilities? I would like to hear a clear statement on HAARP's application for space interpretation. Was HAARP at Alaska used to determine the -90 degrees or was that something else? If it wasn't HAARP, then why is it necessary? We are aware of the objects, what is HAARP going to do? Also if HAARP is that useful should we not have more then one facility for crap like this? If it is in the wrong place, go to a different facility and use that one.

So as of now, I remain skeptical.

I feel like I am missing something major here (in my statement) and I'll be found incorrect. (I think I have said something stupid, but I am unable to locate my fault)

But this is my opinion and I enjoy this chance to learn.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on June 16, 2011, 10:08:14 pm
Omg, you are sooo right, you just managed to stated the most obvious reasons why the HAARP facility is such a huge cover up. Bravo!
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: ravinclaw on June 17, 2011, 04:52:16 am


Then I have the problem of HAARP being used to distinguish items in space. I doubt high frequencies or any sound travel through space. (or if they did, would anyone be around to hear it?, similar to if a tree falls in the woods...)



Do you not understand that radio waves do in fact travel through space, and are perfectly capable of transporting sound?
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on June 17, 2011, 09:43:23 am
Good point, but i dont think no one with sound mind really believes that HAARP is being used for Space observation. Isnt it a bit weird that every time a huge earthquake and/or tsunami happens, HAARP is being VERY active?
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: matthew321 on June 17, 2011, 09:59:00 am
Well I'm not well versed on radio waves in space (clueless  :?). So the fact they can carry sound with them sounds plausible, I am willing to accept that as a possibility. But I would still like the government to give a clear statement, on what HAARP is for.

So let's say these are radio waves being omitted from HAARP. These waves cannot be used to distinguish the items in space that we already know are there. Because Alaska is in the wrong position. So assuming we have no other facilities like HAARP and no other country has one either, then what do we do now?

What can HAARP do that no other device can, for this purpose?

What DOES HAARP do in the first place?

I'm still skeptical, I do not know much about space, radio waves or space observation. So this is just coming from an unbiased, ignorant civilian. 
I think with my ignorance I either don't understand, or I'm too skeptical to get it.

But again I look forward to learning something.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on June 17, 2011, 10:26:36 pm
Besides, for seeing the unseen in space, what astronomers use is infrared....
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: davidn13 on September 23, 2011, 01:47:24 pm
If they're actually spaceships, and If they're hostile, wouldn't they cloak themselves or something?
I know it sounds like star-trek, but if they can get here, then they should be able to conceal themselves somehow?

After watching an episode of the show Curiosity, I'm convinced that if aliens make a play for earth, it won't be with giant lasers and battleships.
First, take down our communication satellites with EMP generators, them wipe out coastal cities with high-kinetic attacks into the oceans.
Last, create an engineered virus to wipe out the last trace's of humanity.



Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on September 23, 2011, 01:54:01 pm
They cloak. That is why all this recent videos of UFOs all around the world seem a bit suspicious to me.

 Viruses... hm, it would be tricky to play that card, cause of a simple reason, if they came all the way to here, that would be cause this planet suits them. Release a virus (a living organism), and you will never be safe from its next generations. True, they could hold a cure, but viruses adapt, change...  ;)
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: davidn13 on September 23, 2011, 01:58:44 pm
So the make it target humans specifically.
No risk to them, really, since they're not humans and don't have any plans on hanging around with us to catch it.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: ViciouslyMe on September 23, 2011, 02:01:23 pm
But again, Nina's right on it, viruses evolve. Just because they 'design' it to target humans, doesn't mean they would be immune.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on September 23, 2011, 02:08:51 pm
True, you can make a virus to target the species, but think of this: If Earth atmosphere and all is good for them, we can freely asume that they are (logically) made very much like we are. Organic, carbon based... once you release the thing it takes life of its own. Maybe a nano-virus could do it, but still, give something thats alive a sort of intelligence... hmmm  :roll:

If I was an alien  :spy: Id play wiser. Wont write about that here though, they might be watching  :spy:
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: davidn13 on September 23, 2011, 02:12:44 pm
So they'd wear gas masks or something.
Still, point taken.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: ViciouslyMe on September 23, 2011, 03:24:43 pm
I don't think a gas mask would stop on from getting infected by a virus, and by think I mean it wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Wolfman528 on September 23, 2011, 04:08:09 pm
If they're actually spaceships, and If they're hostile, wouldn't they cloak themselves or something?
I know it sounds like star-trek, but if they can get here, then they should be able to conceal themselves somehow?

After watching an episode of the show Curiosity, I'm convinced that if aliens make a play for earth, it won't be with giant lasers and battleships.
First, take down our communication satellites with EMP generators, them wipe out coastal cities with high-kinetic attacks into the oceans.
Last, create an engineered virus to wipe out the last trace's of humanity.

The virus can evolve, living things, even viruses are to unpredictable, that's why it is hard to predict cancer after all, but your right, if they go through the trouble of taking over, they wouldn't destroy what they're trying to take.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: davidn13 on September 23, 2011, 05:40:26 pm
We went over that wolf, but point taken...lol

Besides, who's to say that they aren't already here and trying to take control?  :-P

Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Wolfman528 on September 23, 2011, 05:56:58 pm
Right, sorry. But there is nothing to prove that they aren't already getting in.
Title: Re: Three giant spaceships to attack Earth in 2012?
Post by: Nina on September 23, 2011, 06:11:04 pm
Its almost like in a cave with this echo and all xD