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Ghosts, Poltergeists & Apparitions => Shadows => Topic started by: Dark Lord M on July 06, 2006, 04:59:38 PM
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In some eyewitness accounts people have described the Shadows as a tall man with a Hat and a cape/vest. I have seen this Shadow two times and my mom has seen them once. The time I saw him was coming out of the shower and seeing a reflection of a man wearing an odd chess hat, when I looked back he was gone. Then I was going down stairs and out of the corner of my eye I see the man looking down at me. My mother also saw him at our last house... She just saw him around the house out of the corner of her eye and he was gone. Our Monstropedia describes him in this way.
Alleged eyewitness reports of these beings are often similar. In these accounts there are almost always the same forms: a blob-like cluster that sometimes has tendrils, a child-sized being, sometimes with a hood, a tall willowy figure with a jack-o'-lantern-sized head, and a tall figure with a hat. In these accounts, the figures typically follow a progression from the ambiguous blob and finally the tall man, meaning that over time they take on more human appearance.
A type of shadow being referred to as the "Hat Man" is actually more akin to the devil or a demon, Hollis revealed. He is often seen wearing a fedora hat, trench coat and three-piece suit, and might appear more solid than other shadow entities. She suggested that these very negative beings are seeking to increase their numbers by recruiting an army of people to the dark side.
What are your opinions. :spy:
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Spooky thing is, during the autumn and winter when attending church or on church or paranormal business, I always wear a black 2 piece suit, black clerical shirt and white collar, black trench coat and... fedora.
I must scare the living cr*p out of some folk and don't realise it!
:focus:
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I picked this up on him, he truly is the most interesting of the Shadows, and one who stands out the most
This man appeared at a former roommate's bedside in the middle of the night. She could clearly see he had on a long, black trench coat of some sort.
Upon seeing this Shadow, she screamed and he did nothing but continue to stare at her. She screamed again, and he still remained. So she continued to scream at the top of her lungs, and I having the room next to hers, ran to see what the problem was for her to keep screaming like that.
She said usually the Shadows will disappear or leave once they see she's noticed them. But this Hat Man didn't seem to care, and was more focused on intimidating her. The figure disappeared shortly before I came running into her room so I didn't get to see this guy.
I've had other friends who have seen this man in other situations and have been given many accounts about him popping up all over the place. He truly should be in a category of his own, and there will be more info to come about experiences concerning him.
http://www.jesusisnojoke.com/theshadowpeople/id19.html
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Seriously people, a being with those distinct features isnt a shadow. Damn Shadowling not being here to help me...
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they where his specialty, wheren't they?
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Seriously people, a being with those distinct features isnt a shadow. Damn Shadowling not being here to help me...
Phantom, like I said I've seen him. He does the same thing all shadows do. Hides in the back of your eye for a little while and flees when you see him. Isn't it possible thats Shadows grow through stages, I meen they all can't look alike. Even the experts think of him as a higher Shadow and accepts that he exsist... Yes Phantom, there are other experts other than Shadowling... Accept that, try to accept that all shadows can be differnt, and chill out. Shadowling had many of the answers, but not all of them.
Also, if he was a ghost, explain why hundreds of people see him around everyday in differnt places. Ghost like that can't just jump around and see other people at the same time.
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Sadly, you dont know Shadowling as I do. He is probably the biggest expert. Period. I personally hope he never comes back to see the forum as it is.
~X
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But all experts still have more to learn. Explain how what I and others see is not a shadow and is something else, and what was it?
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It doesnt have Shadow tendancies. First of all, Shadows like to keep a low profile, only showing themselves to the person they are feeding off of. Second, the human form is to much. I believe when Shadows turn human, they not only prefer to be children, but they look like them (ie. skin, hair, ect ect).
It seems to be more of a demon than a Shadow. However, there is a possiblity that its a Shadow/Demon mix. I dont know how likely that is, but we've seen weirder combinations of halfbreeds.
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The hat man hasn't been seen by groups, only by one person at a time. After seeing him I had the same type of Shadow after effects.
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Sadly, you dont know Shadowling as I do. He is probably the biggest expert. Period. I personally hope he never comes back to see the forum as it is.
There are others who have and are studying the Shadow people just as dilligently, if not more so, than you give them credit for. Just because their opinions differ in varying degrees with his does not make them wrong.
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Reviewing Shadowling's posts, there seems no reason why they cannot take on the form of the so-called "Hat Man":
They are mainly carnivorous
That's the first time I heard this; I thought they survived on a person's energy/life force
although they can eat vegetables if they need to. Shadows can take on a human form, although they are weakened slightly in this state. They cannot look directly at the sun, even for a second, without paying severe consequences for it. They are quite strong, and have superior senses, expecially night vision. Out of human form, they can appear as a 3-dimensional shadow, and may be opaque, or translucent.
They are also not of the "spirit" world, and are capable of "attack":
Shadows are born, not created. My theory is that there are many different geneticly diiferent races of mankind. Sometimes, I belive they are just another product of evolution, but when I think of them snarling like a beast and thier face swelling with muscles and his nose becoming more of a snout, which is what a Shadow does when it is on the attack, I think of somesort of animal. In other words, I don't know.
They definitely have a human form, of which the "Hat Man" could be one:
If the Shadow was in it's non-human state, that would explain the blackish color. Shadows out of thier human form usually appear as 3-dimensional, opaque shadows.
There's nothing there that casts doubt on anything that M sidhe or any other investigator has claimed.
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Im in no mood to blow up at the moment, so whatever.
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Im in no mood to blow up at the moment, so whatever.
If you cannot respond civilly or maturely, don't.
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Reviewing Shadowling's posts, there seems no reason why they cannot take on the form of the so-called "Hat Man":
They are mainly carnivorous
That's the first time I heard this; I thought they survived on a person's energy/life force
although they can eat vegetables if they need to. Shadows can take on a human form, although they are weakened slightly in this state. They cannot look directly at the sun, even for a second, without paying severe consequences for it. They are quite strong, and have superior senses, expecially night vision. Out of human form, they can appear as a 3-dimensional shadow, and may be opaque, or translucent.
They are also not of the "spirit" world, and are capable of "attack":
Shadows are born, not created. My theory is that there are many different geneticly diiferent races of mankind. Sometimes, I belive they are just another product of evolution, but when I think of them snarling like a beast and thier face swelling with muscles and his nose becoming more of a snout, which is what a Shadow does when it is on the attack, I think of somesort of animal. In other words, I don't know.
They definitely have a human form, of which the "Hat Man" could be one:
If the Shadow was in it's non-human state, that would explain the blackish color. Shadows out of thier human form usually appear as 3-dimensional, opaque shadows.
There's nothing there that casts doubt on anything that M sidhe or any other investigator has claimed.
Impressive research on old posts. I'd never done it. Thank you for the inputs.
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Well about this shadow man. A friend and I (he is also on this forum) think that shadowmasters are on the rise for something. I think that this formed shadow is a higher step in their growth in magics. Maybe it has become stronger and is therefore able to take shape like this imposing man. Maybe they are getting stronger and do not mean harm but need us as a catalyst or a key to something they want
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I'd never heard of "Hat Man" but would be willing to accept it and learn more about them. The fact that it didn't disappear means that is unlikely to be a Shadow but then I have seen one in particular that didn't move when I saw him but from what I gathered he was an outcast from the Shadow community. They use us that's for sure, their favourite food IS human emotions but can survive off foods as humans do. If the one you have seen doesn't seem negative towards you then try and communicate with it but if it does stay the hell away. I believe in another thread not so long ago Phantom X thought something could have been of the Force, maybe these "Hat Men" are a part of it. Maybe it's on the move again, if so I hope Shadowling comes back asap. Try putting wards up for Shadows and seeing if this keeps him away. eg put 12 thumbtacks in your bedroom door and see if he avoids it, if so it is a form Shadow. I found a great way to get rid of them was I bought a cheap mood ring and put 12 deep scratches in it and wore it at all times and I had no problems then. Tell me what happens.
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It has been several months since I have seen him, and he did give a bit of a negative feel from him (I was far away so he and I turned away and ran into the other room when I saw him) I don't know if he went away, because I didn't go back up untill someone was up there with me, I felt drained after I saw him. I did catcha glimpse of a hat man in the mirror behind me when I was on vacation, but that may be me seeing things after talking about him for awhile. :spy:
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"shadows" is an old term describing many creatures such as vampires or ghosts. One of our member (shadowling) put forward a precise definition two years ago of what he believes to be "shadows" ... a kind of inserstitial etheral subhuman genre.
When reading the thread, I kind of confuse that creatures like demons, MIB or Bogeymen are qualified as shadows which is not.
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It could very well be, but lets not jump to conclusions. I have not felt as diffrent as when it first came. We have many theories as to where it went, and we will share them when the time is right. (Probably upon Shadowlings return). No worries.
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Well, my opinion on this is that the Hat Man is indeed a Shadow.
Physical attacks are rare, but they do happen. I believe it to be an extreme survival instinct to cause extreme amounts of fear. Perhaps to keep themselves from withering away. Also, perhaps it is possible for Shadows to be insane or 'oddball'. I don't actually know if this is for certain, but there have been a few documented Shadow attacks. Rape, on the other hand
is comepletely new to me.
I believe that the form of a man in a trenchcoat with a hat is considered very imposing by people, and it seems likely that this Shadow would assume that form to inspire more fear for sustanance.
Just my two cents.
-Shadowling
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
I realize this topic is ancient, but I want to throw in on "Hat Man."
When I was very, very young I used to see a nasty-looking little guy in a trenchcoat and a fedora right in the room with me and my little brother, right between my door and the bed. It scared the whatever right out of me when I was a kid.
Years went by and I wrote it off as imagination, until I read a book called "Astral Attack and Defense" by Marcelo Motta. He described encountering something very similar to what I saw when he was a kid in 1950s Brazil.
Does anyone know of any research done on these things? I ask on account of I'm interested in going after them and trying to catch one.
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