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Title: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Nina on January 14, 2009, 10:49:52 PM
2012- Metaphysical predictions

2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order.

Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing event will take place in 2012:

    * The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with long-period sunspot cycles.
    * The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have been instructed in their wisdom by disembodied entities from Orion and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars. However, some Mayan priests living and working in Guatemala assert that there is no legitimacy to this theory.
    * The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth.
    * The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) that will allow the third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural or man caused destruction.
    * The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic field will reverse.
    * The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff Stray reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth to fit their theories.
    * The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere.
    * The 2007 book Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation into Civilization's End by Lawrence Joseph does not make any specific new predictions, but it reviews a number of 2012 predictions made by various sources, and presents arguments for the possible existence of dangerous positive feedback loops involving solar storms, Earth's magnetic field, cosmic rays, hurricanes, global warming, earthquakes, and supervolcanoes that may be on the verge of erupting.

Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include:

    * Terence McKenna's mathematical novelty theory suggests a point of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift in consciousness.
    * Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in 2012. Richard C. Duncan's book The Peak of World Oil Production and the Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak in oil production in or around 2012.

Some links:

Great Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_year)

Baktun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baktun)

Mesoamerican Long Count calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Long_Count_Calendar)

2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012)

The Celestine Prophecy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Celestine_Prophecy)

2012 (film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_(film))

Noosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere)

Singularity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity)
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Ryobi on January 14, 2009, 11:46:50 PM
Actually this makes sense, the comet Wormwood is actually predicted in that passage in the Bible. Wormwood is about the same diameter at Saturn, but unlike Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto… the lighter gas planets… Wormwood is basically an iron oxide ball.  So with the size of Saturn and the heavy mass of iron oxide, Wormwood is about 60 times Jupiter’s mass.  Jupiter weighs in about 318 times the mass of Earth so imagine a solar body that heavy and you have the second heaviest body in the solar system next to the Sun itself.   

The planets out to Neptune orbit the Sun in the flat “ecliptic plane”.  Pluto is offset a little bit so its orbital plane is at a slight angle to the ecliptic plane of the other planets.  Wormwood’s orbit is at 900 to the ecliptic plane… a very long ellipse with its perihelion arcing over the Sun and its aphelion way out in deep space on the Southern side of the ecliptic plane.  It heads out to deep space for 1800 years and then turns around and comes back toward the sun for the next 1800 years… 3600 years total (average). 

It is approaching us now from the south side of the ecliptic plane.  It will move inward on its perihelion arc and come up through the solar system between the orbital circle of Jupiter and the outside of the asteroid belt.  It will cross the ecliptic plane next year… probably in April or May… possibly as late as June.  It will come up through the July midnight sky… when the Earth is facing the general direction of Sagittarius.  It will arc up over the Sun and come back down through the ecliptic plane again in the December midnight sky… facing Perseus… again between the asteroid belt and the orbital circle of Jupiter.  Then it will head back into the southern sky toward deep space for the next 3600 years.

It is so heavy that it can torque the lithosphere of the Earth right over on its side.  It can be extremely destructive depending on how close it is when it crosses the ecliptic plane. 
 
Wormwood’s return was prophesied in the Revelation.  It corresponds to some of the events in chapter 6, 7, 8 and 16… inbound and outbound passes.  When it comes through the solar system it can be very destructive.  It looks like it will be very destructive on the current visit.

""And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of the waters; and the name of the star is called wormwood; and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

In the first quarter of 2001, the Sun switched magnetic poles. In 2012 these two poles will rotate again. The Sun operates on an 11-year cycle, alternating between active and quiet periods. We are currently in a quiet period, with few sunspots on the sun's surface and fewer solar flares, though the next cycle of activity has begun.

It is expected to peak around 2012, bringing lots of sunspots, flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs). CMEs can interact with the Earth's magnetosphere, causing problems for satellites, communications, and power grids.

This upcoming active period now looks like it will be more intense than the previous one, which peaked around 2006, some scientists think. The reason is the changes in the sun's alignment.

During the last peak, solar fields hitting the Earth were first anti-aligned then aligned. Anti-aligned fields can energize particles, but in this case, the energy came before the particles themselves, which doesn't create much of a fuss in terms of geomagnetic storms and disruptions.

But the next cycle will see aligned, then anti-aligned fields, in theory amplifying the effects of the storms as they hit.

 Coupled with wormwood affecting the magnetic polarity further and generally pulling everything out of allignment. It's predicted these solarflares will be even bigger and that this will drastically disturb things on earth if not destroying the planet completely.

My end of world theory  :-D
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Nina on January 15, 2009, 01:22:06 AM
And a very good theory its is, if I may add!  :wink:
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Ryobi on January 15, 2009, 02:58:44 AM
Thankyou, the information that got me onto it came from basically all of the sources you listed. So glad to know I'm not the only one going insane thinking the world will end in 4 years.  :-D
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Nina on January 15, 2009, 06:28:18 AM
You sure aint alone there, pal.... but dont be surprised if someone notices your tinfoil hat got loose (all in fun, of course)  :wink: I know, happened to me once or twice, lol!
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Ryobi on January 15, 2009, 03:26:05 PM
Lol don't worry, no one will even notice my tin-foil hat underneath the giant telescope I'll be carrying around.  :-D
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Raziel on January 16, 2009, 07:14:42 AM
So any survival plans?
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Ryobi on January 16, 2009, 05:44:48 PM
You know I was on /z/ lately and I don't think this is something you could really prepare for as it's happening on a planetary level and if solar flares that large hit earth (it's been predicted that the area around the city of New York will be the most affected) we're going to 'fry' no matter what we do really or a good number of us will 'fry' and that will send the rest of the worlds governments into an uproar most likely.

So in the case of another world war but with drastically upgraded weapons (which would happen if the governments went into an upraor) I'd say move under ground or as I live in Australia into the bush and just keep on going, which is probably what I would if any world threatening event happened.   

But that's just me and my pessimistic (the safest place is the most solitary) mind set  :gun:
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Nina on January 17, 2009, 01:30:17 AM
See, good idea, underground. Thats why we are looking for old military maps....  :roll:
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Ryobi on January 17, 2009, 02:56:35 AM
Yep, that'll come in handy  :-D.
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Aniyu on March 26, 2009, 10:21:21 PM
The 2012 predicament may not be the end of days as we know it, but the end of our way of life. Or it will be radnorock and fenris's children will swallow the moon and sun. Or our sun will swallow the earth, because like it or not our sun is not the hottest star out there

Jupiter is actually a failed star...well what if Jupiter is gaining mass and such and it ignites in 2012 becoming another star? Our planet would burn up. 
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: oldbill4823 on March 27, 2009, 01:33:26 AM
Has anyone got any useful predictions about stuff like shareprices, or things we can actually use to enhance our short and meagre lives?
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Milanee on March 27, 2009, 03:29:29 AM
Ive heard for a stuff called monatomic gold or something like that. Its actually what alchemists from the dark ages were trying to get. Its weights much less than gold, but helps the cells to reorganize in a proper way. Heals cancer and opens chakras. Did you mean something like that oldbill?
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Amaya on March 27, 2009, 05:29:27 AM
Ah, my chemistry class has followed me home....sorta. We just began our chapter that includes monoatomic ions.

An interesting thing to be mentioned is that monoatomic gold is a neurotoxin that causes peripheral neuropathy. In simpler terms, it destroys the nervous system. Not nice stuff. :-(

That's all I could find when I researched it.
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Muerte on April 17, 2009, 10:26:47 AM
Mountains ladies and gentlemen.  I myself am here in the moutain ranges of WY for this very reason.  There are bunkers and caves all through here, which would give a slightly increased chance of survival.
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Aniyu on April 17, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
I'm going to the mountians, they are calling me since i saw them few years back. So i'll be in the mountians when supposed end of the world comes around...just as long as yellowstone doesn't decide to blow its roof. I'll be okay.  :-D
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Anchitiquia on March 01, 2010, 05:59:46 AM
Well if the whole polar shift thing is the culprit mountains would be the most dangerous place to be.

The same force that pushed them together will pull them apart if polarity was to shift right?

As for the whole solar flare thing yeah your better off in a mountain but i try to calculate variables in survival cause you only have one "prepared" chance to save yourself.
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: KubeSix on March 01, 2010, 01:34:33 PM
Since when does the earth's magnetism affect the plate tectonics? Their movement is affected by the Earth's core and the heat it produces; they move with the heat that's dissipated from the lower layers of the Earth. Unless the Earth's core stops functioning and goes cold, they won't change. Maybe the pattern they move along would vary (I don't know, we'd need someone who knows more about this...) but they would still stay there. And even if the mountains started shrinking... It won't happen Hollywood-style with the ground opening up beneath your feet and the mountains disappearing over a minute or two. It took thousands, no, millions of years for them to get there; it'll take as long for them to go back down.
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Raziel on March 05, 2010, 05:52:43 PM
Ah, my chemistry class has followed me home....sorta. We just began our chapter that includes monoatomic ions.

An interesting thing to be mentioned is that monoatomic gold is a neurotoxin that causes peripheral neuropathy. In simpler terms, it destroys the nervous system. Not nice stuff. :-(

That's all I could find when I researched it.

Is this a case of a scalpel in the hands of a surgeon as opposed to a buzz saw in the hands of an idiot?
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Muerte on March 07, 2010, 03:19:49 PM
Since when does the earth's magnetism affect the plate tectonics? Their movement is affected by the Earth's core and the heat it produces; they move with the heat that's dissipated from the lower layers of the Earth. Unless the Earth's core stops functioning and goes cold, they won't change. Maybe the pattern they move along would vary (I don't know, we'd need someone who knows more about this...) but they would still stay there. And even if the mountains started shrinking... It won't happen Hollywood-style with the ground opening up beneath your feet and the mountains disappearing over a minute or two. It took thousands, no, millions of years for them to get there; it'll take as long for them to go back down.

  Thank you Kube for saving me the ti,e of a lengthy reply.  You see Anchi, I too figure in variables, and the complete destruction of a mountain range in the center of the United States will be near if not improbable.  An Earth shake I can expect, but as long as you keep your head a little shake is no problem at all.  And if a Polar Shift does occur than I will simple have access to all the new Beach front property (In case of Apocalyptic floods it is best to live very high up).  Yellow Stone?  Oh I am not so worried.  You see Yellow Stone is in the North West portion of the State and I live in the South East portion of the State.


  http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl)

  Please Note the Expansive Mountain Range between, as for the Ash cloud, well I have a few plans on that too, but I will not be sharing everything about my survival plans, as they say, Survival of the fittest.
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Anchitiquia on March 11, 2010, 03:06:30 PM
Thats cool. I was just confused because i read somewhere that under the north pole's crust the molten lava had south pole magnetism attracting it and vice versa, holding the earth together allowing the lava to spin and the crust to slowly turn with it at a different speed. (thats based off hear say BTW i don't claim to be right its just interesting)

If that were true the sun's new south magnetic solar flares would in fact have dramatic "hollywood" effects on earth.
The crust would be flipping to align with the core. The core in turn starting to flip and eventually meet in the middle.

Making Antarctica around where the equator is. Which explains why ancient maps of it having no ice on the continent.

But, wth do i know lol it was just what i read somewhere and decided to gab about it.

If something of this proportion was to happen there is no amount of planning that could "fully" prepare you for something like that anyway.

Kube mentioned it on another post and i agree with the whole tun and baka tun thing it was their way of counting.

Because 2012 is just the end of a calender. It could have just represented how long it took the sun to go around the center of our universe. YAY our sun is 5 years old (as far as we know). I believe the Mayans were astronomically smart enough to calculate "the great cycle" being our sun's orbit. We call a New year a "New year" "Ending" a year. If people only lived to be days or months old this would scare them. What is this "End" they speak of?

As for people who say but mayans said something bad would happen at the end of the Great Cycle. Ummmm..... the calender they had wasn't even accurate based on the roman calender but they were smart enough to know this. The five extra days that was unaccounted for in their calender was known in their society as the five "unlucky" days where bad events happened. (and they just tacked those days on at the end without any relevancy) Did bad things in fact happen? Nooooo. Unless you consider War bad. Although its like hey everybody its supposed to be five bad days lets go piss other tribes off lmao.

How many mayans believed in the five unlucky days all of them. how many mayans lived 5 thousand something years to testify that their calender always ended with bad events? (not only for 2012 but past great cycles ending) none of them.

 :-D although i firmly believe something will happen. even if it is other people freaking out from paranoia and committing suicide.
Title: Re: 2012- Metaphysical predictions
Post by: Psionic on March 11, 2010, 10:41:42 PM
I am actually expecting alot, not so many people are talking about this stuff. I like the part that says that our world will be fully imersed in the photon belt in 3 days( starting Dec. 21 going to 23 2012). I wonder how will this upcoming event affect me and what I can do. :-D