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Apocalypse Soon => The End => Topic started by: donavan on April 27, 2009, 09:12:30 AM

Title: swine flu plague
Post by: donavan on April 27, 2009, 09:12:30 AM
Will this Bible Code about a SWINE PLAGUE, found by Harry Walther, come true?
SWINE PLAGUE-PRES.OBAMA-DEATH-AMERICA-USA-BIRD-FOWL-MAN-EVIL DOING-PANIC-PLAGUE-MARTIAL LAW-OBAMA. :spy:
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: WOLFSONG on April 27, 2009, 10:47:14 AM
Dont know but it sure had me looking at my guinea pigs this morning.

(Just joking)
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Muerte on April 27, 2009, 11:03:43 AM
Possible, hell anything is possible with 2012 just around the corner.  Obama won the 08 election and will need to get the 12 election, what better way?
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: onishadowolf on April 27, 2009, 02:10:06 PM
Oh no the guinea pigs, give them all to that joe guy, He'll take of them like he did the gerbils.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: WOLFSONG on April 28, 2009, 06:19:06 AM
Nooo!! I like MY pig. He can have my husbands. Pull a Roman Dirge's Lenore and squish her eyeballs out. 
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Moloch on April 28, 2009, 07:22:45 AM
Quick question for this Donavan person, since they seem to favor hit-and-run tactics when posting, instead of an actual discussion... "here does it say anything in the bible codes about bl-Obama... and why do I care what a contrived mathematical algorithm has to say about him, or this latest version of Influenza?
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Muerte on April 28, 2009, 08:12:02 AM
Quick question for this Donavan person, since they seem to favor hit-and-run tactics when posting, instead of an actual discussion... "here does it say anything in the bible codes about bl-Obama... and why do I care what a contrived mathematical algorithm has to say about him, or this latest version of Influenza?

  GL getting a reply.  In the last post he just kept talking about his ( or more presumeable others ) theories without actually acknowledging what others had to say.  Pretty typical of a bible thumper though.  Listen to what I have to say, but don't question me, don't you dare!  You will burn in hell forever if you do!
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Moloch on April 28, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
But I already own a thousand condos in Hell....

Speaking of which, rent comes due the end of this week... I take cash, Federal Postal Money Orders, and I'll trade my pleasure at your suffering as forms of payment for your stay in Hell.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Muerte on April 28, 2009, 10:19:04 AM
Do you have one availiable next to a magma flow?  I tend to get cold at night.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Moloch on April 28, 2009, 11:59:43 AM
Do you have one availiable next to a magma flow?  I tend to get cold at night.

What?! You expect riverfront property as a new arrival?!

EDIT: I've been reading the news feeds about this thing... and GOD! THey make it sound like this thing is going to kill everyone. Such wanton sensationalism should be illegal!
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Aniyu on April 29, 2009, 05:06:04 AM
look at the thread in the 'say it' part of the the board Re: offical monstrous topic i posted something on the new swine flu. or better yet here

WASHINGTON The first U.S. death from swine flu has been confirmed a 23-month-old child in Texas amid increasing global anxiety over a health menace that authorities around the world are struggling to contain.

The flu death was confirmed Wednesday by Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In an interview with CNN, he gave no other details about the child.

Germany, which confirmed three cases Wednesday, is the latest country affected.

The world has no vaccine to prevent infection but U.S. health officials aim to have a key ingredient for one ready in early May, the big step that vaccine manufacturers are awaiting. But even if the World Health Organization ordered up emergency vaccine supplies and that decision hasn't been made yet it would take at least two more months to produce the initial shots needed for human safety testing.

"We're working together at 100 miles an hour to get material that will be useful," Dr. Jesse Goodman, who oversees the Food and Drug Administration's swine flu work, told The Associated Press.

Meanwhile, health authorities are preparing for the worst. "I fully expect we will see deaths from this infection," said Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The U.S. is shipping to states not only enough anti-flu medication for 11 million people, but also masks, hospital supplies and flu test kits. President Barack Obama asked Congress for $1.5 billion in emergency funds to help build more drug stockpiles and monitor future cases, as well as help international efforts to avoid a full-fledged pandemic.

"It's a very serious possibility, but it is still too early to say that this is inevitable," the WHO's flu chief, Dr. Keiji Fukuda, told a telephone news conference.

Cuba and Argentina banned flights to Mexico, where swine flu is suspected of killing more than 150 people and sickening well over 2,000. In a bit of good news, Mexico's health secretary, Jose Cordova, late Tuesday called the death toll there "more or less stable."

Mexico City, one of the world's largest cities, has taken drastic steps to curb the virus' spread, starting with shutting down schools and on Tuesday expanding closures to gyms and swimming pools and even telling restaurants to limit service to takeout. People who venture out tend to wear masks in hopes of protection.

The number of confirmed swine flu cases in the United States rose to 66 in six states, with 45 in New York, 11 in California, six in Texas, two in Kansas and one each in Indiana and Ohio, but cities and states suspected more. In New York, the city's health commissioner said "many hundreds" of schoolchildren were ill at a school where some students had confirmed cases.

New Zealand, Australia, Israel, Britain, Canada and now Germany have also reported cases.

But only in Mexico so far are there confirmed deaths, and scientists remain baffled as to why.

The WHO argues against closing borders to stem the spread, and the U.S. although checking arriving travelers for the ill who may need care agrees it's too late for that tactic.

"Sealing a border as an approach to containment is something that has been discussed and it was our planning assumption should an outbreak of a new strain of influenza occur overseas. We had plans for trying to swoop in and knockout or quench an outbreak if it were occurring far from our borders. That's not the case here," Besser told a telephone briefing of Nevada-based health providers and reporters. "The idea of trying to limit the spread to Mexico is not realistic or at all possible."

"Border controls do not work. Travel restrictions do not work," WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl said in Geneva, recalling the SARS epidemic earlier in the decade that killed 774 people, mostly in Asia, and slowed the global economy.

Authorities sought to keep the crisis in context: Flu deaths are common around the world. In the U.S. alone, the CDC says about 36,000 people a year die of flu-related causes. Still, the CDC calls the new strain a combination of pig, bird and human viruses for which people may have limited natural immunity.

Hence the need for a vaccine. Using samples of the flu taken from people who fell ill in Mexico and the U.S., scientists are engineering a strain that could trigger the immune system without causing illness. The hope is to get that ingredient called a "reference strain" in vaccine jargon to manufacturers around the second week of May, so they can begin their own laborious production work, said CDC's Dr. Ruben Donis, who is leading that effort.

Vaccine manufacturers are just beginning production for next winter's regular influenza vaccine, which protects against three human flu strains. The WHO wants them to stay with that course for now it won't call for mass production of a swine flu vaccine unless the outbreak worsens globally. But sometimes new flu strains pop up briefly at the end of one flu season and go away only to re-emerge the next fall, and at the very least there should be a vaccine in time for next winter's flu season, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the National Institutes of Health's infectious diseases chief, said Tuesday.

"Right now it's moving very rapidly," he said of the vaccine development
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Amaya on April 29, 2009, 06:23:44 AM
Does anyone remember the avian flu from about two to four years ago? It was way overhyped. How about the infected peanut butter last fall? This was dramatized too. They do this a lot. They find a disease and make it the thing that will wipe humans out next. I'm not too worried about it. Unless they show some proof, I'm not buying it. Children and the elderly are most likely to die from even a normal illness than someone else. Show me an adult who was perfectly healthy before catching it that dies and I'll start to have concern about it being a supervirus. The only thing we know is this bug can be easily caught and spreads fast. That's not enough to classify it as dangerous.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: WOLFSONG on April 29, 2009, 06:56:50 AM
Your right. Thats enough tho classify it as every other virus.  :roll:
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Muerte on April 29, 2009, 08:31:30 AM
  Question. 
  Does anyone else consider it strange that a new super flu/bug developes every 2 - 3 years?  Could Mother nature be trying to play a little crowd control, or is the constant deveolpement be something a little more sinister?  Let the discussion/argument begin.  ( Stiring the pot, stiring the pot   <^>  )
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Aniyu on April 30, 2009, 04:57:04 AM
I think Mother Nature is trying to do crowd control. We defintly need it. Somewhere i read that the earth could comfortably hold(no food shortage etc)  about either 6 million or one billion. 6.3+ billion....we are really over populated.


I was watching the news yesterday cuz tv sucks and i had nothing better to do and they were saying to buy some theraflu or something like it to prevent the new flu from getting to you....Lol i'd love to see hypocondriacs running to the store to buy it then end up catching it. Honestly i've never believed in getting flu shots or any other vaccines...I don't trust them.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Amaya on April 30, 2009, 06:19:21 AM
The 2-3 year supervirus is mostly overhyping and general misinformation, as I said in my other post. Very rarely does it actually come true. To prove this further, I believe our last REAL disease problem was back in 1979. That's a long time to wait for a new bug. It's not as common as people think. Also, if we look at the deathtoll of the past three "supervirus problemes" the highest one is in the 10-20 range. Looking at the overall population, this isn't a large number. Looking at the percentage of the population that it affects is also quite small. When mother nature strikes with a real supervirus, the number is usually at least in the hundreds...
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: onishadowolf on May 02, 2009, 01:38:34 AM
The 1918 spanish flu was the major killer of the 20th century. Nothing has compared in awhile including this one and the bird flu, they don't have the same genetics that made the spanish flu so bad a$$. I believe it will be a retrovirus or is it rihnovirus, that will do us in until we adapt. It has happened before, the genetic blueprint for a ancient one is still being copied in our DNA, it is not active nor can it be.   
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Zodiac on May 02, 2009, 06:13:05 AM
Actually, no. The 1918 flu was deadly, sure. But it burned out quickly and went away. The actual main killer of the 20th century...Is Smallpox and Measles. In 2000 alone world wide, Measles claimed nearly 800,000 lives. Smallpox is responsible for at least 300 million deaths in the entirety of the 20th century. That flu was deadly, but not so much because of its power, but due to world war one and the troop movements. On September 11, 1918 Washington D.C. admitted the flu was in the city, the very next day almost 13 million men swarmed on the place, to enlist for the draft. The only reason the Spanish Flu was so dangerous is because people had the "if we ignore it, it will go away" outlook. But it didn't go away. This flu killed people the most who were 20-29 years of age, it was unusual, but it makes sense because of the way it killed. It drowned people. Stronger people's immune systems went into overdrive and that is what killed them.

The Spanish Flu burned out on its own. It did alot of damage, but it only lasted a short time. Smallpox was so dangerous they actually had to eradicate it, and to this day it is the only virus that mankind has actually gotten rid of....but I am sure it's not completely gone.

Or how about TB? Did you know that Tuberculosis was once the leading cause of death in the United States? Every year eight million people die from this. It is believed that currently a third of the world's population is infected with this bacteria...oh, and its  becoming more and more resistant to medicine.


This swine flu is nothing more then four days of misery. It acts as any flu does and has in the past. The only thing that is scary about it is the media backing it has behind it. The hysteria of the virus, actually spreads faster then the virus does. The Flu, by nature isnt meant to last. AIDS is a Pandemic that has been going on since..well that is debatable. People say the 30's is when it first jumped to humans, but how many news stories do you hear about that? Me, not lately...Why..because if you get it, you knew better.

So saying the Flu Pandemic of 1918 was the main killer of the 20th century...I would have to disagree. One of the worst ones in such a short amount of time, yes. If it lasted for years it would be the main one, but it didn't.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: onishadowolf on May 02, 2009, 05:06:25 PM
Ah, I forgot about small pox and measles. But I thought it was polio virus that we almost wiped out. I didn't mention TB because we are talking about viruses.

Like I was saying I think a virus from the  same genus as the HIV virus will do us in.   
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Muerte on May 02, 2009, 10:27:20 PM
Nah, if any virus will do us all in it will be man made, because it will have to target humans specifically, and you know humanity, when we make something, we make it deadly.  Nature = Crowd Control, Humanity = Extinction.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Aniyu on May 03, 2009, 12:17:45 AM
"Humanity as a whole did not become the top predator because he is the smartest, fastest creature out there but because he is the most blood thirsty of them all."
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: onishadowolf on May 03, 2009, 01:41:40 AM
Oh, ya'll so got it.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: KillFast on August 05, 2009, 08:58:37 AM
Well I personally believe due to the traits that I am aware of that belong to this pandemic I would say this is not only a repeating disease but also a mutating disease. This poses problems because we may clear things up but not know that animals begin carrying it and mutating it, in which case the virus will resurface again, and again

this thing will become a very serious threat unless we find out the dynamics behind it and make an efficient effort to prevent it from harming us
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Muerte on August 05, 2009, 02:33:29 PM
Well I personally believe due to the traits that I am aware of that belong to this pandemic I would say this is not only a repeating disease but also a mutating disease. This poses problems because we may clear things up but not know that animals begin carrying it and mutating it, in which case the virus will resurface again, and again

this thing will become a very serious threat unless we find out the dynamics behind it and make an efficient effort to prevent it from harming us

  Not so serious, any natural virus can be fought off by all but the young and old.  You see the cold, the flu, and all of our other dreaded viruses are always mutating, changing.  They do this because like us they wish to also survive.  They may kill a few, but they will never be able to kill all.  No my friend, a natural virus does little to inspire any kind of fear in me, It's the stuff they make in labs I find treating.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: KubeSix on August 05, 2009, 04:02:24 PM
Actually I heard the swine flu is more dangerous to young adults because of the stronger immune system. From what I've heard, the virus makes your own immune system turn against you, much like AIDS would render your immune system useless.

(i might be wrong, though, but that's what I heard from 2 different sources)
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: KubeSix on August 05, 2009, 09:06:04 PM
Actually I heard the swine flu is more dangerous to young adults because of the stronger immune system. From what I've heard, the virus makes your own immune system turn against you, much like AIDS would render your immune system useless.

(i might be wrong, though, but that's what I heard from 2 different sources)

My mom works at a hospital, and she said, the swine flu goes for not only younger people, but also older ones who are more at risk. She said depending on how your immune system is, some can fight it off, but most die from it, and death is more likely in the younger and older ones.

Oh, ok! Thanks for clearing things up, I was starting to get confused as to what exactly the virus does :-P
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Muerte on August 06, 2009, 07:35:45 PM
  And all of that substantiates my point.  Only the young and the old need have to worry, Oh we would get sick, no doubt, but it would not kill us.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: lockesk on August 11, 2009, 03:36:13 PM
ive come down with a flue :cry:
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: KillFast on August 17, 2009, 08:22:07 PM
well in case you all didn't know this disease does in fact attack much more than the young and old, and whoever said that it turns your immune system against you is correct, I was advised to be careful because I have diabetes and this flu can kill me within days. The list of endangered people sent out by my province( Ontario) was actually quite large

it seems if there is any falter in your immune system at all you are in treacherous waters. This flu (swine) is misleading because it actually didn't come from pigs at all it has the same properties as the last swine flu however doctors have already determined is that it was a bio-weapon

if you look at the records you will see that within hours of each other there were 3 points where there was breakout (Mexico, Egypt, Iran) this i do not see could possibly be a coincidence because the only other explanation is that it as an attack from the planet

they found out it was most likely a bio-weapon because they caught a strand of the virus in the U.S. and remarkably the virus takes a small amount of DNA from each thing it afflicts. it was traced to a Mexican child who had a syringe mark on his arm as well outside the injection point was traces of the virus.
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Strife on August 30, 2009, 09:17:54 PM
wow how much has the swine flue killed in the entire world? not that much, and if it were killing by the thousands every 3 months or so i would be getting worried but there is nothing to worrie about,
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: KubeSix on September 01, 2009, 11:38:53 AM
wow how much has the swine flue killed in the entire world? not that much, and if it were killing by the thousands every 3 months or so i would be getting worried but there is nothing to worrie about,

Yeah, people are overreacting a bit... There are posters all over campus and little soap thingies at the door of every class room here... A virus with a little more potential than others + media coverage = bad idea
Title: Re: swine flu plague
Post by: Strife on September 01, 2009, 10:57:16 PM
exactly, the media is making more out of it, we dont really have anything to fear