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Dead... And Not So Dead => The Dead and the Undead => Topic started by: Radiator4you on December 14, 2009, 07:55:10 PM

Title: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Radiator4you on December 14, 2009, 07:55:10 PM
So I have been hearing lately a lot of people saying that zombies aren't that big of a threat and that we need to be looking out more for vampires and werewolves... you have to be kidding me.

First of all, let's take a look at the physical qualities of each beast:

Werewolves:

Okay, who gives a crap about werewolves? They only come out once a month…dig yourself a hole , find yourself a hiding place, I don’t care, wait for the night to be over with, go out, find the werewolf and kill it while it’s weak… not much of a challenge there .

Not only that , they’re annoyingly predictable…

“I have a brilliant idea! Let’s go beat up on some humans!”

“Sweet! When??”

“How about a Full Moon??”

Woahhh , big surprise there! We definitely won’t see that coming … =/

Vampires:

The problem with vampires is that they have way too many weaknesses to the point where it’s just plain ridiculous. Let’s list some:

1. Holy Water : What are you , the Wicked Witch of the West?? Honestly, how am I supposed to take an adversary seriously when all I have to do is sprinkle some water on it and it runs off crying like a baby?

2. Cross: Wow, this just keeps getting better… I can burn a vampire with a stick... nuff said.

3. Sunlight: Oh my gosh… once again, all you have to do is hide during the night [probably on holy ground because that just so happens to be another oneof their weaknesses] and take them out during the day. Not. A. Big. Deal.

4. No Reflection: Who the heck cares whether they have a reflection or not??? Why do people make such a big deal out of this?

5. The worst thing of all is the way you kill them, it is so anti-climatic.Take a stake and a hammer, place stake above sleeping vampire’s heart, insert stake into heart with help from hammer… voila! Dead vampire.

I’m just not even going to continue… I think I’ve made my point when I say vampires are pathetic.

Zombies:

Now this is the real deal people. Zombies have no weaknesses: either you kill them, or you don’t.

They’re amazing and here’s why:

1. It doesn’t matter what you do to them: you shoot off their leg? They keep coming after you; they know no pain. Not to mention the fact that now you have a stray leg after you as well.

2. Day or night, they’re around. Zombies are a constant threat 24 hours aday, 7 days a week, 365 days a year: there’s no time period where they are weak like vampires and werewolves.

3. There is only one way to kill a zombie: shoot them in the head. Yes, it is possible to blow them up, but in the end, it’s the head you are going for. You take out the head, you take out their ability to move around. This is difficult because it requires some aim... To be quite honest, if you don’t got aim, you’re screwed… I’m sorry =/

4. People say that a weakness of zombies are the fact that they move so slowly. Well, in a lot of cases this is true; they do tend to move slower. This doesn’t mean they can’t catch you. Zombies travel in groups, BIG groups. If you see a zombie, you better be well equipped to do some major zombie annihilating because you can’t run from these guys: chances are, you’re already surrounded. The fact that they move slower only means that they are going to kill you slower… and much more painfully.

5. This leads to another point. Zombies are vicious. Vampires may prick your neck and drink your blood, but zombies, they’re going to rip you apart and eat you, and you’re going to watch the whole thing. Have fun.

So, don’t give me this bullcrap about how zombies aren’t as much of a threat as vampires or werewolves, because the truth is: vampires and werewolves are like cuddly kittens compared to zombies.

Thank you.


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Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Mental Disorder on December 15, 2009, 09:30:56 AM
Werewolves:

Okay, who gives a crap about werewolves? They only come out once a month…dig yourself a hole , find yourself a hiding place, I don’t care, wait for the night to be over with, go out, find the werewolf and kill it while it’s weak… not much of a challenge there .

Not only that , they’re annoyingly predictable…

“I have a brilliant idea! Let’s go beat up on some humans!”

“Sweet! When??”

“How about a Full Moon??”

Woahhh , big surprise there! We definitely won’t see that coming … =/

If you did yourself a hole, how are you going to know whos the Werewolf? :O
Besides, Werewolves are extremely fast, agile, super strong, and have senses of a beast. Basically if you even try to kill it when its weak, you will still have one hell of a challenge.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Andrea Warfare on December 15, 2009, 09:37:18 AM
u dont need good aim to knock off a zombies head a machete or chainsaw would do the job
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Loki on December 15, 2009, 12:41:30 PM
Chainsaw is the most ineffective weapon against zombies ... Only in Sam Raimy movies ...

Its mainly an instrument of fear and zombies have no fear.

Good comparizon between the three popular monsters  *<:)
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Radiator4you on December 15, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
it is a good point that if you dig a hole , you won't be able to see who the werewolf is , but i'm sure it is possible to make accomidations where you could also have a peep hole or something to look through if need be..
also , a werewolf at its weakest point is when it's human.. then, it's just a human to kill, and not much more difficult to kill than a human

Andrea: sure , if you want to get that close to a zombie . .  but i remind you, they travel in packs, and it will take great stamina if you want to survive for even a few minutes.. Also , while you are in the process of wacking or chopping off one's head, the other zombies are circling around you about to kill you.. no , you're gonna want to stay as far away as possible.

And  i second the whole chainsaw thing =D

 :gun:
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Andrea Warfare on December 16, 2009, 03:22:53 AM
any sharp broad instrument would do the job.ok a kitana then.after shooting zombies from a far, one will ultimately run out of ammo.Its just a matter of time.yeah and its going to take stamina if you want to survive.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Lupus on December 16, 2009, 08:00:56 AM
hmm this is starting to turn into the debate we had on the other zombie survival topics - lets just say we kinda came to a conclusion we all agreed on for zombie apocalypse. If anything , werewolves & vampires would be harder to kill , because i don see any threads like - how to survive a werewolf/vampire attack. Not to mention each one is different. They'll differ because they have intelligance far greater than a mass of shambling corpses - although they are a threat , its been discussed.

have you ever tried to predict what a human will do?if you have , then you'll know its damn hard , because inteligance means they can figure out some many way of killing you. Remember , they try to hunt you , you'll only see them when theyre strongest. makes sense doesnt it? attack when at full strength. thats what they'll do. Its your job then to play thier weaknesses against them.

never underestimate anything - it puts yourself in greater risk of making a mistake because you think youre superior.
my personal favourite is to have someone watch your back. remember - if they hunt you with no specific reason , if you prove to difficult to kill , then they might just give up and go for somone else. prey on the weakest.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Moloch on December 16, 2009, 08:34:23 AM
I do believe, Ray, that you'll find most of us here will disagree with you. I myself do, but I think I'll wait a bit longer before I explain why.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Lupus on December 16, 2009, 09:53:36 AM
it was only a matter of time before this thread caught Moloch's attention.... :spy:

i certianly disagree with the werewolf bit
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Moloch on December 16, 2009, 11:29:55 AM
Oh it caught my attention right away... but I decided to sit back and let some others have fun for a bit.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Strife on December 17, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
This thread is interesting i do have to admit, but here is the thing....

Have you actually whent face to face with a vamp? or a werewolf? Now your coming on here telling us how easy it is to kill these creatures? You didnt think completly through this sorry to say.

Vampires are powerful creatures and they can think just like any of us can, (so in otherwords they are not stupid)

Werewolf- ever tryed to tame a wild beast? one whoms main diet is meat? good luck.

Now if im unlucky someone will tear this down, if not they will agree with me. either way i just wanted to put a point down  :-D

Write later im kinda busy

Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Andrea Warfare on December 17, 2009, 11:21:19 PM
I like how Strife points out the obvious in most discussions.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Lupus on December 18, 2009, 09:10:28 AM
hmm.. its like verbally stabbing the convo- precise and clinical.
 answers the question really well too
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Strife on December 18, 2009, 11:48:17 AM
I like how Strife points out the obvious in most discussions.

I like how Rude Andrea is in most discussions XD
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Andrea Warfare on December 20, 2009, 10:23:15 AM
haha i was actually complimenting you.hrm.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Strife on December 20, 2009, 10:57:49 AM
lol its fine but yes i do point out the obvious haha  *<:)

 :focus:
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Muerte on December 20, 2009, 12:29:19 PM
I like how Strife points out the obvious in most discussions.

  Well he had a very good teacher.  Mo, you have waited too long my friend, please allow me.

  Radiator4you, you are a complete and in complacent IDIOT.  You have no idea do you that everything you have quoted is from popular media and has nothing what so ever to do with vampire/werewolf myth.  Allow me to disabuse your so called expertise.

  Vampires are not weak against Holy water, Crosses or sunlight.  (Though they are much weaker in sunlight than they are in darkness, it WILL NOT kill them)  You need to put Bram Stroker down and do some actual research kid, and I suggest you do this BEFORE you make any kind of claim.  The only thing you did get even remotely correct is the stake the sword and the flame.

  Werewolves only change during the full moon?  SERIOUSLY??  Do you ever do real research?  Or do you just watch movies and say, "Hey! That must be true."  I would love to see you around a true Were and tell them what you view is, then sit back and laugh as they make a snack of you.

  Only thing you really come close to is some of your zombie lore, though shooting them in the head is not the only way to stop them.  I am not going to bother going into any more detail on your post, but I advise before you post anymore informative post you actually attempt to understand what it is you are talking about.

  P.S.  I am sure you missed it so I feel it important to point out that Loki has added the Jester to the End of his post.  He wasn't complimenting you, of that you can be certain.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Moloch on December 20, 2009, 07:21:05 PM
Eh, I felt I kind of owed you one since I've ruined your fun a few times in the past few months.

And Ray, just so that you know, you have conveyed blind contempt of at least two-thirds of the members here, and conveyed your total ignorance to all and sundry. Heed Muerte's advice; he doesn't lead people astray.

Oh, and for your information; I am a vampire, and I assure you... I am no contemptible creature.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: matthew321 on December 21, 2009, 06:56:19 PM
Well I would agree that zombies are the greatest threat to end the human race. I think vampires would be a cool improvement and same goes for ware wolves. If I see vampires I would be intrigued and the same for ware wolves. But I am racist when it comes to zombies. I won't even recognize them as people. I will kill them without hesitation. Zombies are indeed a threat.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Moloch on December 21, 2009, 09:03:24 PM
Zombies are the piranhas of the horror universe. They're an impossibly irritating annoyance until you get a bunch of them together, and then they're only a huge pain in the ass. The only time you're in any danger is when there's a whole horde of them.

Vampires and Werewolves(spellcheck anyone?) on the other hand, are dangerous as all Hell when it's just one individual, let alone a bunch of them or a horde. I can see here that not many folks have had any intimate interactions with parahumans. Pity, we're such an interesting bunch.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Muerte on December 21, 2009, 10:04:10 PM
  I agree whole heartedly.  Zombies after all are mindless, and if you stop to think about a situation instead of freaking out you can handle any number of them, you just do the one thing they can not do.  THINK! (example...a few household chemicals in the proper proportions can create a nice BOOM, bullets after all are not the only way to destroy something)  The others however not only have the ability to think, they have had years to perfect their individual arts.  An intelligent foe is so much more dangerous than a mindless one.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Moloch on December 22, 2009, 08:51:17 AM
I still fervently believe that the greatest trophy big game a person can hunt is a human - because a human can think and surprise you...
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Muerte on December 22, 2009, 08:59:33 AM
  True.

  Edit: Seconds later I realize there is a movie that emphasizes this point.  Surviving the game, if you have not seen it, watch it!
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Moloch on December 22, 2009, 09:15:25 AM
I have already seen it, years ago. Good movie.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Andrea Warfare on December 22, 2009, 07:01:18 PM
im glad most of you all noticed that he pointed out the only way to kill a zombie was to shoot it in the head.decapitation anyone? vampires are so much more intelligient and craftier than zombies. Have you ever tried outrunning a wolf and if so the wolf will track you down.  I will take a slow walking cadaver without olfactory senses anyday.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Muerte on December 22, 2009, 07:04:54 PM
im glad most of you all noticed that he pointed out the only way to kill a zombie was to shoot it in the head.decapitation anyone? vampires are so much more intelligient and craftier than zombies. Have you ever tried outrunning a wolf and if so the wolf will track you down.  I will take a slow walking cadaver without olfactory senses anyday.

  Knoticed I did, I also note that he thinks it will be easier to kill a Were while it is in human form.  I would like to point out that while a Were is in human form it retains its intelligence, and if you know about the Were then you can be assured it knows about YOU and will take steps to protect itself.  Another poor theory put to rest.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: BiggWolf on December 30, 2009, 04:33:12 PM
Radiator4you, you are a complete and in complacent IDIOT.  You have no idea do you that everything you have quoted is from popular media and has nothing what so ever to do with vampire/werewolf myth.  Allow me to disabuse your so called expertise.
  Werewolves only change during the full moon?  SERIOUSLY??  Do you ever do real research?  Or do you just watch movies and say, "Hey! That must be true."  I would love to see you around a true Were and tell them what you view is, then sit back and laugh as they make a snack of you.


Response to Muerte.

Ok, Edgar, you really need to get outside once and a while. Just because you stay home playing D and D dosent mean your an expert in anything. Now, "Real Research" what does this include? wearing a fur coat, claiming to be a werewolf, traveling to some woods located near your house, and looking for some stray pet feces??

I never read that Radiator said she (yes she is a she) was a werewolf hunter, nor a vampire expert. All i saw was she was trying to contribute to this forum.

P.S.  What i find so extremely humerus is the text below your picture "Welcome to the worst nightmare of all... reality!"
The real reality is that your 33 and trying to bash someones post, CLAIMING, that she is the one watching monster movies religiously. This is what really pisses me off about this forum, people need to take a break from the computer, and calm down.

Now, Its a "monster" forum, so  :focus:
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Lupus on December 30, 2009, 06:12:59 PM
biggwolf , from the way that sounded , you might need a break to lol. anyway i think muerte might mean books on the occult, or something like that. they do exist. really i dont think it would be a good option to run into any three of these beings.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Strife on December 30, 2009, 08:20:43 PM
biggwolf , from the way that sounded , you might need a break to lol. anyway i think muerte might mean books on the occult, or something like that. they do exist. really i dont think it would be a good option to run into any three of these beings.

Well he is my dad and i know for a fact he studies alot on this s**t. and then there is BigWolf claiming he doesnt know anything....Now i wanna point out how ignorant bigwolf is i mean wow...Im not even gonna continue on this but, damn man....
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: BiggWolf on December 30, 2009, 10:53:04 PM
biggwolf , from the way that sounded , you might need a break to lol. anyway i think muerte might mean books on the occult, or something like that. they do exist. really i dont think it would be a good option to run into any three of these beings.
Its the full moon, lol sorry. i understand, and hell no lol.

Ok.
Honestly, there's a difference form constructive criticism and (sorry for lack of words here) just being a penis. And its really just getting on my nerves in this forum. If she said she was "An expert devoting her time to everything related to werewolves and vampires" then feel free, go ahead and go all out. Fact is, she didnt, it was a single post in a monster forum, please get over yourself.


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Well he is my dad and i know for a fact he studies alot on this s**t. and then there is BigWolf claiming he doesnt know anything....Now i wanna point out how ignorant bigwolf is i mean wow...Im not even gonna continue on this but, damn man....
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ok.
I never doubted your dad worked on this subject, honestly, after i saw he was a father and was on this forum, i kinda anticipated it. Re-read everything over again stif, "claiming he dosent know anything" that's a harsh statement lol. i never said anything remotely close to that.

Let me just recap everything one last time. Not everyone here devotes their life to "monsters" give them a break. i actually enjoyed reading lupus's ideas about the topic, its just another perspective in this. But once murte started to speak, my fur started to stand up on ends. i dont see why people feel the need to post such negative responses. lets try to work on this, this New Years, ok.

Please, lets get back to this topic now.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: markus on December 31, 2009, 01:06:02 AM
It better get back on topic and soon, as in like all the post after this one

Or I will lock this one too
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Andrea Warfare on December 31, 2009, 10:20:54 AM
hey big wolf.I read your post and you came off as a penis.just saying.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Muerte on January 03, 2010, 11:26:36 AM
  In light of recent events I feel it my duty to clear up just why Zombies *MAY* pose a larger threat than either Werewolves or Vampires.  Simple fact ladies and gentlemen.  Werewolves and Vampires know that if they eat their entire food supply in a few nights than there will not be anything left for their survival.  Zombies on the otherhand will continue to feed until there is nothing.  Now as we humans are said food source I think we can all agree that we would rather have to deal with the Vamps and Weres than a horde of forever feeding cadavers.
Title: Re: Zombies are not a threat ??
Post by: Andrea Warfare on January 07, 2010, 09:48:11 AM
I agree muerte.Rain or shine Zombies will be near eating your kids and snacking on your steer! haha.In all seriousness,I can go out during the day carefree and at night and when its a full moon pack a silver bullet loaded gun,holy water and cross,garlic...The living dead wont stop.There isnt anything to stop them besides severing their cranial nerves from spinal nerves,i.e decapitation,head shot,etc. There is a possibility that the zombie outbreak could be spawned by a virus,and if so,then all we can hope for in an alternative defense is an antidote.Whats ironic is that we base all of our theories from books and media maybe a few experiences that havent been proven on a global level. I believe when that day does come it will shock us all.No virus.No cure.Widespread panic.If We cant control our kids from killing eachother in school,where they are supposed to be in a controlled environment,how the hell can we control the undead?