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Death Be A Lady
« on: October 03, 2011, 12:10:40 PM »
It's not just Steven Hughes's that thinks of death as a woman!
Cihuacoatl, Manea, Freyja, Itzpapalotl, Kali, The Morrigan, Nephthys, Hecate, Hel ...Uhm... Tia, Rohe...  I'm running out of names of ladies associated with Death... but I know there are tons more.



      A story was told of a merchant of Baghdad who was approached one day by his servant. The poor man's face was pale and his hands were shaking.
      "Master," said the servant, "I saw Death in the marketplace today, a tall woman hooded in black. She looked directly at me and made a threatening gesture with her hand." The terrified menial begged for his master's horse, that he might flee to the city of Samarra and so escape the clutches of the woman Death.
      The master agreed, and when the servant had left for Samarra - riding as fast as the horse could carry him - he went himself to the market place, to see whether Death would appear.
      She did indeed, hooded in black as the servant had said. She idled among the stands, examining the fruits piled there; from time to time, she tapped a person on the shoulder, and that person blanched and hurried away.
      The merchant beckoned her to him, and she came willingly. He asked with curiosity why she had threatened his servant.

      "That was not a threatening gesture," answered Death demurely. "It was a gesture of surprise at seeing here in Baghdad. I have an appointment with him tonight in Samarra, you see." And with a smile, she disappeared.





Now, I thought this was funny.

Who's your favorite female Death deity?
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2011, 07:58:05 AM »
Interesting thing, but the only way i can find why some author finds the death itself a woman is that: femme fatale.
The womans was the end in some cases for the men, because by the mens weakness for the woman. Maybe those authors who find the death female is that the  men weakness for womans. 
« Last Edit: October 08, 2011, 08:20:34 AM by Night Energy »
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2011, 10:46:46 AM »
Heh, The Grim Reaperess :-D

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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2011, 08:16:59 AM »
Am I the only one that feels they lose iq points when they read this guys posts???

Authors? What authors are you talking about?  *<:)

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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2011, 11:28:19 AM »
 *<:)  *<:) Azzy that's not nice!  *<:)  *<:)


Interesting thing, but the only way i can find why some author finds the death itself a woman is that: femme fatale.
The womans was the end in some cases for the men, because by the mens weakness for the woman. Maybe those authors who find the death female is that the  men weakness for womans. 

My first question... Are you Sexist?
I'm curious about what "author" you're talking about... and does this assumption of yours about "femme fatale" include why there are Goddesses of Life, War, Wisdom?
Man's Weakness for Women is something that comes up in romantic fairy tales of heroes that die doing something stupid they shouldn't have been doing in the first place.

I was under the impression that "Death Itself" is a concept, or a point in time in the circle of life.
This topic isn't about the concept of Death.
This topic is about Female Mythological, Religious and Cultural Entities ( be they Goddess, Deity or Spirit ) that represent Death and the Varying "Underworlds" / "Hells".
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 11:34:53 AM »
Kali is not the goddess of death, though she is a killer. Yama is. Though I know that isn't your point. :p just clarifying for the newbies.
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2011, 11:48:16 AM »
Kali is the feminine version of Kala, which is Time, Death and I think "Black". But, she's also seen as the "Redeemer of the Universe" or something like that. The "Kindly Mother Goddess".
Shiva's consort is the Destroyer, and the Goddess of Time & Change. Which, I was sure was Kali, and that's why I listed her off.

In every culture where Yama ( and name variations ) is seen as the Lord of Death, he is depicted as Male.
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 08:21:28 AM »
You got that straight off wikipedia, didn't you? Haha. Kala means "black" and "dark coloured," as in skin-colour. Kali is an incarnation of Parvati, who is the Kindly Mother Goddess, who is Shiva's consort. And there you have it!
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 08:32:14 AM »
To make sure my books aren't outdated, and a quick search on Yama, I sure did.  :lol:
The Book of Hindu Imagery: The Gods and Their Symbols is my original source of knowledge about anything Hindu.




Kali is an incarnation of Parvati, who is the Kindly Mother Goddess, who is Shiva's consort. And there you have it!


That would be where the Wiki info folks got it, then for sure.
What about Shitala?
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 08:04:11 PM »
As with Kali, an incarnation - though worshipped far less, as I think small pox is less of an occurrence in the present day. :P
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2011, 06:59:32 AM »
Right on, Thank you AWB... It seems I either mixed things up, copied them down wrong, or the author of the book got some details wrong.  :lol:
I'm adding this in my notes, if you don't mind?

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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2011, 11:20:59 AM »
It helps that hinduism is a pretty big thing in the family. Haha. Go for it!
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2011, 11:32:49 AM »
Azurahn thanks for your offend to my post, but next time keep it for yourself and you know why? Because majority of the users are offending my posts, so it's something usual to me, but i would like it if they would stop.  When you read my posts i know that they aren't perfect formulated, but it's not recommended all the time to let loose to what you think like you did.
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2011, 08:30:46 PM »
If anyone feels I am in the wrong, please PM me and let me know, and I will correct myself...
However, I feel this needs to be the example for our new members.


Night Energy, this a message to you as a Moderator, and the Author of this Topic, so please pay close attention:


* Keep an issue with a Specific Member Private. This means, if you have something to tell Azurahn, send him a PM.

* Your response, in general, because of how it's worded, and what is highlighted is a form of Trolling, as well. It's Calling Azurahn out, and the response would be negative. Thus is born an argument.

* Your very first statement of "keeping it to yourself" contradicts your later statement of "it's something usual to me"

* Let's see... Oh yes, your post has absolutely NOTHING to do with This Topic.


* If the problem with these Members, is because of your Topics and Posts...
Take it up with the Moderators ( To name a few, Myself, Anaya, Angelus, Oldbill... ), the Guardian ( Nina ) or even the Admin ( Loki ) himself.
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Construct your outlandish posts better, offer some cooperation and information to inquiring members, follow the rules ( which I see you have previously broken a few )...

* In general, it's apparent that you have offered nothing useful to the Forum, and have been something of a nuisance. I'm honestly surprised you haven't been Outed before me... especially because I'm the Nice one.

* Please use this message as a learning experience.





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I have a story I will be posting here tomorrow that I found a little bit ago that I'm sorta excited about.
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Re: Death Be A Lady
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2011, 03:36:00 AM »
Since T put it all down so nicely, all I gotta say is that you better do as she says ;)