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Title: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on May 13, 2009, 09:38:36 AM
Part 2...

Part 1 here

http://www.monstrous.com/forum/index.php/topic,7414.0.html (http://www.monstrous.com/forum/index.php/topic,7414.0.html)


There are many theories that suggest they are either attached or assigned to certain people and places. Further study has given rise to a belief that they specifically watch and observe members of the paranormal and supernatural community, and even more so, people who seem to have supernatural gifts. Many have reported a Shadow or two keeping a constant watch, and that their shadows even followed when they had moved to a new home. There are paranormal sites all over the world where large groups of Shadow Men are reported to keep watch. They stand around certain spots through out the site like "Sentinels", which is what this type is called. These types will usually gather in large groups and spread out in even patterns, and usually in or near woods. Reports from people who live bordering the woods say that the Shadows will gather right at the edge within sight, but never really come out, or come any closer.


Shadow Men generally do not seem the least bit interested in actually interacting with us humans. They normally do nothing more than watch. You will see them get bored or lose interest at times, and simply leave or wander off. They do also seem to have personalities. They appear to get excited by playing "hide and seek", and if one is happy you will know. It will get very brave and come pretty close, or try to get your attention with very bold displays of movement. What they will not do is interact with you because you want it to. Although people have tried, and almost always fail, I do not recommend it. They never attack or harm people, but those who have tried to speak with them usually end up with something worse after wards. More of them show up and ultimately one of the malicious types will arrive soon after. They are only here to observe, from what we know, so you are best to just leave it alone.

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Effects on the Physical Realm:
- Animals seem to notice them
- Footsteps are reported at times
- Have been seen in reflections on televisions and mirrors
- Been reported during normal activities, investigations, and Ouija use.
- EVP mentions, “They are the brothers of death.”

Animals DO react to their presence, so it is believed that they can see them too. They also make noises such as footsteps, and have a reflection, so they do in some ways at least, have a physical presence. The reported sightings take place at all times of the day, so they do hang around and can affect your day-to-day life.

It is not a popular belief that they can or will talk. A member of *snip* posted his personal account on the previous thread. It in, he told of his study of Shadow Men. He asked them what/who they are, and it replied, "We are the brothers of death". This was captured in an EVP. If this was a Shadow Man actually speaking, then we know that they can affect us in this way also.

Additional Theories:

- May work for or be controlled by other Shadow entities such as the Hat Man
- May be in control of lesser Shadow entities such as Shadow Animals

Shadow Animals/Imps/Creatures

- 3ft. tall and shorter
- Seen in groups
- Most commonly seen as Imp-like creatures, cats, birds, and bats.
- Sometimes take on a less solid, blob-like appearance
- Usually associated with the coming appearance of higher level entities
- Might be a sort of servant/lookout/scout/companion for higher-level entities
- Possibly are hybrids of two other types of Shadow

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As the name implies, these are obviously not shadow people or shadow men. Most accounts of these guys describe them as cat-like, birds or bats and other flying creatures, small imp-like /demonic humanoid shapes, or other indescribable shapes and/or blob-like masses, and they are always under three feet in height. In short, their description varies just as much as their "human" counterparts. I have next to no information this type of entity. They are almost always associated with the coming of a larger more powerful presence. Many of us believe that they will gather near a place when a more powerful entity is about to manifest. Maybe they are its minions, or messengers, and are checking out the area before their master arrives. They could be bottom feeders looking to siphon some energy from a larger source that will likely not notice. The site will usually have a bad or foreboding feel to it, and a sort of empty, hopeless feeling They are always in groups or they are randomly spaced around the immediate area but still fairly close to each other. The only exception here are the cat-like types, which will streak out in front of you without warning much like a real cat would. Another popular theory is shadow pets. No one really knows.


Hat Man, Hooded Shadow, and The Old Woman

- Seem to be malevolent
- Always associated with negative feelings
- All accounts report unhappiness and/or a sense of being drained
- Always appear when we are vulnerable/weak
- Always associated with fear and suffering
- Positive thoughts, meditation, prayer, and high self-esteem seem to keep them away, and drive them out

- Thought to perhaps be different entity type than the shadow people
- Many reports of seeing several Shadow People before a Hat Man or Hooded Shadow appears
- May be in charge/command of lesser entities such as Shadow Men and Shadow Animals
- Possibly are hybrids of two other types of Shadow

We do not believe either of these three are "true" Shadow Men. I have strongly noticed only ONE recurring fact about these three. EVERY mention of them relates to feelings of fear, paranoia, and vulnerability. Other accounts point to the victim feeling threatened, and/or just having experienced a personal trauma or other sadness. These three types are the only ones who have been repeatedly reported to wear clothing of any kind, and they actively interfere with our lives and cause harm! They may not be causing physical harm, but the psychological, emotional, and mental harm can be MUCH worse and ultimately lead to physical harm. I believe these three entities are some type of evil/demonic entity or other spirit. I believe that they feed off of our fear, pain, and suffering. DO NOT make yourself an easy target if these creatures are attacking you! Keep a positive mind; keep your personal living space as happy and inviting as possible. Tell them in the name of whatever/whoever you hold sacred that they are NOT WELCOME, and GET OUT! Mediation and prayer are also helpful. Do whatever you can to empower yourself, and above all else, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF! Believe they cannot and will not hurt you.


The Old Man (in the hat) or Hat Man:
- Sometimes reported with glowing green eyes
- Always reported at or near your bed
- Always associated with bad dreams
- Almost always first seen at the foot of your bed when halfway between asleep and awake
- Associated with causing fear and draining energy
- Is believed to cause fear or bad dreams to steal energy
- Possible ‘bogeyman’ type entity
- Also associated with "The Sandman"
- Believed to be similar to Moth Man

The Old Man in the Hat, or "The Hat Man" is by far the most commonly reported Shadow Man there is. More people have seen him than any other shadow entity. I have never seen him. (Knock on wood) Almost every account is the same. He is always leering over you while you are asleep, when you are most vulnerable. He is first seen standing at the foot of your bed, while you are still half asleep. Most people say they immediately feel threatened, and as if they are being drained or weakened. Most also note they have had, or will have nightmares when he is around. I think he may be stealing energy as we sleep, and feeding our fear to create more fear energy because that is what he actually feeds on. One user posted a picture called the "sandman" to give a good reference. He may, in fact, be "the sandman" for all we know. For this particular entity, keeping a cozy, happy, and comforting sleeping area seems to work best, over all. In addition, I also suggest, if possible, have some source of light nearby when you sleep, natural light like a candle seems to work best. Calming soothing music to play gently in the background is also good, but not so loud that it will keep you awake, remember this entity wants you to be tired and vulnerable.

Hooded Shadow Men (Hoodies):
- Most reported with red glowing eyes
- Possible ‘bogeyman’ type entity
- Believed to psychic vampires
- Associated with sadness, depression, and a sensation of being drained.
- Almost always appears when victim has had recent trauma
- The hood and cape may actually be long hair and a dress; some of them may just be Shadow Women
- Most people are unable to see these entities



The "Hoodies" always seem to be following, or hanging around an individual who is an unhappy person, an endless supply of sad and dark emotions, which is believed to be their energy source. These entities are usually described as a shadowy, flowing, robe-like mass with a hood, and almost always has red glowing eyes. In other cases, they have almost NO shape or form. They seem to be a shadowy mass or "nothingness" that seems to swallow up the light around it. Hoodies usually attach themselves to people who have both a very bad life, AND a connection to the supernatural or paranormal world. They usually show up right after a great personal trauma such as a death or a huge financial catastrophe. Once they arrive, they set about destroying the victim's emotional state by causing fear, paranoia, depression, and making them feel worthless. Hoodies are extremely difficult to get rid of, and prevention should be your primary weapon. Prayer, meditation, faith in yourself, your god, and whatever you hold dear. DO NOT buy into its crap! You ARE worth it! Your life DOES matter!


The Old Woman:
- Is always reported while victim is in a state of SP (sleep paralysis)
- Is associated with SP
- Is associated with bad dreams and feelings of fear
- Is associated with sensations of being held down, unable to move, and being drained
- Believed by some to be the Bride of the Man in the Hat
- Associated with OBE with nightmares


Situations with The Old Woman are almost identical to that of the Hat Man. The differences, however, are quite specific: the victim will wake up in a state of SP, unable to move. The Old Woman is usually holding you down and creating quite a bit of fear, which is why most victims think they are "just dreaming". And most report having an OBE with nightmares. Victims say they feel as if they are being pulled, or forced out of their bodies. The way to avoid and/or rid yourself of her is basically the same as Hat Man as well, but with one addition: SP is caused by STRESS. Removing stress from your life will make it harder for you to fall into SP. For those who do not know about SP, it is a state in which your body is so tired that it literally cannot go any farther without rest. But, in contrast, your mind is in a state of overdrive, and so deep in thought, that your body will shut down and go to sleep while you are still wide awake and lost in thought. Your mind is active, but your body is dormant. You are wide-awake mentally but asleep physically. Even though you are coherent and conscious, you cannot move. It can be very scary, especially if you are part of the way asleep mentally and get interrupted by a nightmare like the Old Woman. Try always to go to bed in a good mood, and to have all your work for the day done. That way, you are free to drift off to sleep without any worries to tempt the Old Woman.

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Theories and Personal Accounts with Possible Support Data

- Possibly are Nephilim (i.e. hybrids)
- May be some sort of naturally occurring Supernatural beast, and unable to be seen properly with out "human" eyes
- Electromagnetic fields causing hallucinations
- Shadow People are the spirits of evil people after they have died
- Shadow People are how people see human spirits when they lack the ‘ability’ to see its true form

- Shadow People are created by negative energy from people, rituals, and/or from tragic events
This supports the more popular theories surrounding the Hooded Shadows.

- The darker they are, the older and more powerful they are
The darker they are the older they are, and naturally the darker ones are more powerful. The free standers are usually very dark and they do not need real shadows as much or often as lesser shadows. Most of you have stated that the shadows that are "running away", or standing in the open, "free standing", are much darker than other shadow men. These types are "even darker than the other shadows around them". Most shadows seem to be the same shade as the shadow that they are hiding in and that they "run down the wall" when they escape.

Many of you have also stated that these darker ones also seem more foreboding, to have more of a presence, and seem stronger. As a shadow man ages, he becomes stronger. His shade will become darker. I believe that the younger, less experienced shadow men are incapable of leaving the shadows completely. Maybe they are unable to hide if they do. They may lack the knowledge of how to leave or hide if they leave. They may need to be cast against something, or maybe they draw life/energy from shadows.

Maybe they spawned right in the very spot they are needed. If this is the case, maybe they are able to move about freely if the people they are watching leave or move away. This may be the reason for accounts of a single VERY black shadow man fleeing the scene when the lights come on. They were looking for the person (people) they are supposed to watch. As they are better suited to moving around freely, I speculate that they become more "real" or have more of a physical presence. Which would explain why they seem to become a "solid black mass" when hit directly with a strong light source.

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They can be affected by things in the physical and are bound by the laws of the physical realm
They may actually have a physical form and thus may actually be able to be harmed by physical objects. They may also not have the ability to become intangible, or pass through solid objects. There are no accounts that I know of where one did pass through an object.

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They are in their own parallel universe and there are "holes" in between where we overlap
- They are a form of ghost in purgatory
Maybe it is they who want us to leave? Maybe there are just holes in the veil that separates our two worlds. Maybe WE look like shadows to THEM, and that is why they run. We may look exactly the same way to them, and the "sentinels" might actually doing paranormal study on US. Maybe the houses that they haunt in our world are actually haunted by us in their world!
If they were, in fact, some kind of ghost, then it would make sense. They are reliving their final days over and over again, or being held in limbo, either as a torture or punishment, or the other theory of "unfinished business". Some people believe that if an innocent dies a very violent death, the soul is unable to cope and will "relive" their death again and again until they know "why". It is also a common belief that the terrain/layout of the physical world when a person dies will look the same to the ghost as when it was alive. Thus the reason they walk through walls, that wall WAS a doorway when they were living. *Drum roll for bad pun* these ghosts are living a shadow of their former lives! Co-existing right beside us as if nothing has changed, except that we can see one another. The movie "The Others" is a great example here. But, shadow men cannot walk through walls.

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- Shadow People are ‘assigned’ to watch certain people
- They may spy on, or observe people with gifts to see if they use it for good or evil
- They may be more attracted to people with gifts because they want the gift for themselves or to use it through the human by corrupting him/her
There has long been a belief that Shadow Men are specifically assigned to watch people who posses supernatural gifts. The reason for this is likely because of the fact that these people have more encounters with them than anyone else. But that may only happen because these individuals are sensitive enough to be able to see them at all.
There are accounts of gifted individuals changing their place of residence only to discover that their shadow had followed them (no pun intended). And often, that particular shadow is very dark in color. "With great power comes great responsibility", "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".

If these creatures are in fact evil, perhaps, they are hoping that the person will "turn to the Dark Side". Maybe the shadow is attempting to steal the powers for itself, or corrupt the person it is following, and/or through them use their gift to the Shadow's advantage. Or, they were sent to watch over you, lest you DO actually commit an evil act with your gift.
A "gift" is a present. It is a blessing meant to be used to help others, and to better the world around you.


Shadow People Revised edition: 5/09

EDIT NOTE: I removed personal accounts for obvious reasons, this is large so I wish to convey only collected data at this time...
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: timv1982 on January 19, 2010, 10:35:46 AM
I would like you to read my post and give me your feed back. I read a ton of what you state and makes me wonder a bit more. I dint see anything running away I saw it running to me. never got to close, and was solid black and looked solid. Lighted areas as hallways where no where to go but foward or back. It never hurt me, touched me, nor am I sure it was not in my own head as for I was a child. But no eyes no mouth, in a chrisitna private school, and no one else saw it but me. It was brave it was bold, it was stalking in manner... If it was real I would dare it to come to me now as an adult...I do not take kindly to being stalked, watched, or observed...
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on January 19, 2010, 04:55:29 PM
I would like you to read my post and give me your feed back. I read a ton of what you state and makes me wonder a bit more. I dint see anything running away I saw it running to me. never got to close, and was solid black and looked solid. Lighted areas as hallways where no where to go but foward or back. It never hurt me, touched me, nor am I sure it was not in my own head as for I was a child. But no eyes no mouth, in a chrisitna private school, and no one else saw it but me. It was brave it was bold, it was stalking in manner... If it was real I would dare it to come to me now as an adult...I do not take kindly to being stalked, watched, or observed...
Hi ...I read this post so I hope this is the post you meant describing the shadow man of your childhood, first you described exactly how they usually behave so IMO yes you did see it, they do not all run away, in fact the reason I have such extensive data comes from personal experiences, they have never run from me but tend to gather in groups..I am not afraid anymore but as a child I certainly was and a long time in adulthood as I would see them at night especially lying in my bed...I would watch them for a while and just finally shut my eyes and go on to sleep..there were many ...so many they would turn to get by each other as you might in a crowded room of real people, that alone I took as a sign they were solid to a degree at least to each other, what ever they are I am unsure but the feeling of unease and dread are still there but I feel like you ....I don't like stalkers or being observed and I am a lot different person now with a different attitude, they don't come close any more but they are still around me, I watch them and they seem to know not to approach to close. IMO I believe they can be harmed by us, if they are emotional feeders as I suspect then an emotion of anger is not what they are looking for and seem to fear it even...
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on January 19, 2010, 05:40:24 PM
Here's the post he's referring to:

http://www.monstrous.com/forum/index.php/topic,9111.0.html (http://www.monstrous.com/forum/index.php/topic,9111.0.html)
Thanks for that! much appreciated..Ladygriffin 
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: timv1982 on January 19, 2010, 06:24:01 PM
Well as I stated I am a very aggressive person now, not to any one that does not deserve it ant not always violent either, but anything or any creature can be harmed in my eyes. I don't know if was for me or for the school, cause the time I got fed up and it disspareard was when I left my self. I like most people feel uneasy at times like some one is watching me but not always is that paranormal just paranoid lol...Yes I do see things some times on the corner of my eyes and again not always paranormal but if it is or was, I would like them to go away for good. I have no problem going on the offensive facing any enemy if I feel it necessary. Thank you for your insight, and I do belive it to be some comfort, but I have not seen anything like that as an adult. If it was something in the past I fear my inner strength now and my outer strength now will not let anything harm me or let me get that close again, but I would love to try (=
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: timv1982 on January 20, 2010, 07:37:04 AM
LAdy Griffin: I agree with what you say about being prepared, but I have no fear that anything will happen. I am not sure in my own eyes if it was my imagination or not.. Your talking about 20 years ago. I am a bold person and will take any challenge in life if I deem it worthy no matter how far fetched the odds of winning is. Although, does not mean Iam going to try to summon the devil to a fight, but I do think I would whoop his butt some.  :gun: lol......Although I have never seen anything as an adult. However, if some one in the area wants to go on the offensive and believe what I saw was real, I would be ok with going. I have no idea about spells, summonings, wigi (spelling) boards, or anything in this nature. This has never been my realm os understnading and I am very ignorant to it. Although, I do believe that anything that can hurt or see me I can hurt and see it back. Knowldge is power and understnading is devestation.   

Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: timv1982 on January 20, 2010, 07:40:49 AM
I forgot to ask something sorry for to many post lol....I do not remember seeing it at many places other then the school if any places other then the school. Would you say if it was real that the demon was attached to the school and not to me? I can not say for sure if I saw it outside the school or not. if I did I can not recall. I never had good experiences at that school lol...Got into fights, ect lol....BTW I never picked the fights lol, just fought to stay alive against the big bad 6th graders with my bad 2nd grade self lol.. oh yeah lol *<:)
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on January 20, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
Well as I stated I am a very aggressive person now, not to any one that does not deserve it ant not always violent either, but anything or any creature can be harmed in my eyes. I don't know if was for me or for the school, cause the time I got fed up and it disappeared and was when I left my self. I like most people feel uneasy at times like some one is watching me but not always is that paranormal just paranoid lol...Yes I do see things some times on the corner of my eyes and again not always paranormal but if it is or was, I would like them to go away for good. I have no problem going on the offensive facing any enemy if I feel it necessary. Thank you for your insight, and I do believe it to be some comfort, but I have not seen anything like that as an adult. If it was something in the past I fear my inner strength now and my outer strength now will not let anything harm me or let me get that close again, but I would love to try (=
Your welcome and I admire your attitude about your inner strength, it is why the thing wont approach you now, they feed on fear like an animal in the wild would, as a child you were easy to frighten along with the other children, I have found it a common factor being exposed to shadow people as a child for many who have psychic gifts. Your intuition is keen and you knowing when your being watched and feeling   uncomfortable is actually like a warning its part of the makeup of someone with at least being a sensitive to awareness of the spiritual world, but you already knew that ...
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on January 20, 2010, 07:49:35 PM
I forgot to ask something sorry for to many post lol....I do not remember seeing it at many places other then the school if any places other then the school. Would you say if it was real that the demon was attached to the school and not to me? I can not say for sure if I saw it outside the school or not. if I did I can not recall. I never had good experiences at that school lol...Got into fights, ect lol....BTW I never picked the fights lol, just fought to stay alive against the big bad 6th graders with my bad 2nd grade self lol.. oh yeah lol *<:)
lol..your bad second grade self was aware of it at least, my feeling is this, the school was a major feeding ground, all the emotions of little guys going to school some scared,some crying sad to be away from home all day...makes for a very irresistible buffet I don't think so much the land just the fact there were so many little emotions to feed on in that big school house.
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: timv1982 on January 23, 2010, 08:42:14 AM
Hey,

Yeah I have to much confidence in my self, kinda irritates people some times but oh what canI do lol. I have to agree with you though, if it was to be true of what I saw and who I am now keeps them away, then I would like to confront it about it. I usally have a very keen memory and do not forget things easily, just like when I was in 3rd grade my next door neighbors dad pushed me into a vine patch and yelled at me cut my face all up, if I saw him (= well it wouldnt be fair now he is surely old, but I would still do it lol.....

Here is my issue now: If what you say is true about feeding grounds on childrens fear then that is something I could not allow happen. Taking advantage of children is wrong, using kids is wrong, and anything man or otherwise doing so should face the punishment for doing so...Care to give me some insight ? Here is a side question, free will or no free will? It does make a diffrence to me....
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on January 23, 2010, 08:55:21 AM
Hey,

Yeah I have to much confidence in my self, kinda irritates people some times but oh what canI do lol. I have to agree with you though, if it was to be true of what I saw and who I am now keeps them away, then I would like to confront it about it. I usally have a very keen memory and do not forget things easily, just like when I was in 3rd grade my next door neighbors dad pushed me into a vine patch and yelled at me cut my face all up, if I saw him (= well it wouldnt be fair now he is surely old, but I would still do it lol.....

Here is my issue now: If what you say is true about feeding grounds on childrens fear then that is something I could not allow happen. Taking advantage of children is wrong, using kids is wrong, and anything man or otherwise doing so should face the punishment for doing so...Care to give me some insight ? Here is a side question, free will or no free will? It does make a diffrence to me....
While I admire your sense of right and wrong and that you surely defend yourself and others you talking about something that does not adhere to our moral or even socialistic rules and the plain fact there is no way to police what they do or who they feed on, not only do they not care one bit, I don't believe a child will never stop having fears after all fear is a self preservation and survival mechanism. The shadow people will feed on any target and not only children...remember Steven King's "IT"?  I feel that was based on the shadow person in many ways. People tend to not believe a child when it see's something adults have long forgotten about or have dismissed as imagination that alone makes them easy prey...(imo)
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Dredy113 on April 27, 2010, 10:28:38 AM
I see all kinds of these creatures at night an during the day i try not to pay attention but the one that always gets me to notice him is the man in the hat...he has a trench coat an fedora type hat...hes followed me to work btw wasn't a good night seeing as he walked straight through me an the moon was a blood shot red an i saw all kinds of things that night....had to have someone pick me up from work cause i couldn't move.... an hes tried speaking to me an when i couldn't understand what he was saying he grew frustrated an aggressive with me an actually gave me a migraine.... but not once have i ever seen him by my bed the times Ive seen him have always been outside...he always follows me at night but the first occurrence was in 2005 the last occurrence was a week ago while i was outside smoking a cigarette around 6pm.
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Countess Maelice111 on November 28, 2010, 05:59:32 PM
Hi to All!
my first shadows was when was 2 years old!( i beleive You're informed abaut people that have a very early memories from childhood,) they were standing at bottom of my bed,3 of them...i clearly remember that they were tall with black holes instead of eyes and mouth wide open....they were very focused on me and performing some kind mix of mantras and wiggeling dance...it was a full moon ( soo epic :))) )... next after that i remember that i was crying and my mother saying to me they are gone!?? since then i kept seeing them almost 3-5 times a year,but last 4 years are aweful! when i'm alone it's fine,but when i'm with my friends that 1 shadow constantly scares them... don't know why!?? but it became a problem,i love my friends ( well few of them stand by me) but because of that i do not do usual staff we used to do... that shadow is my ''company''....
6 years ago it was 2 weeks before halloween,my 3 friends and i were on the left side of the river and decided to go chek out what's going on in the ususal place we drank with the rest of the crew on right side beneath an old fortress... as soon as we step on the bridge from nowhere came a very firm fog,ofcourse it scared a s**t out of us,but we kept walking and then we saw that hat person!! we were frozen to death! He was dressed all in dark clothes with tall hat and with fancy stick that glow silverish...just for a moment we saw a green glance of his eyes...in the moment we looked at each other he was gone....a fog cleared same as  appeared,2nd contact was next year but with diferent facts!-- i live in the edge of my city and my friend is in center,i walked home as i always do and i need at least 45min to get home! but not that night,i left apartment arround 1o,45pm and i need 15-2o min to the railway that is a half way of my home,a men also in black with the hat ''walked his dog'' and stoped me to ask 'what's the time''' and it was 11:o5pm... he thxed and went his way,finnaly i was home and when i looked the clock IT WAS 11;O6 PM?????? HOW???? ofcourse i instantly called my friend from fixed home phone and she was like ''bulls**t some1 drive you home!'' i was nooooo,and told here what happend,no she didn't beleive it,,,but month and half ago the same man ask her whats the time and she rememberd me and chose not to tell him.... he went all berserk and insulting,a death happend in her family( but her grandpa was allready sick,not to death but....wth was that????? )
3 years ago in november, with my 4 friends i sat in a car looking at the football field...rollin some ilegal kind ;),some1 knocked on window car and we heared growl... before smoking ilegal kind ! but we thought naahhh just nervs tripping... after a few min we all saw an old granny standing infront of the car with a very evil grin like she was cursing a very bad curse stabing us with her heller eyes.... we ran as fast as we can with car,and hit something invisible...that dent is still on the same car,my friend can't sell it,why? customers do not feel ''comfortable'' in it!????
so my greatest q is -- could it be possible that through these years that 3 shadowy things were those three i saw as a child? and the last 1 is the shadow in all its shade that i got stuck with at the present time????? honestly through growing up i can not count how manny times people sad to me how they feel ''something special abaut me''... i'm 24 years old now,and i started investigation on the all kinds from paranormal till.... bwaahhhhhh all kind of ocult and similar when i was 14,and all i find was what i allready known as a child... some things are even for me ab normal,so i skip that themes even when i'm alone with myself... but some1 asked me few days ago did some1 put curse on me or am i in bizzare kind of way important for good and/or evil side?? often i feel like struggling in the midlle of something but not sure what....and yes i'm scared,confused and everything that goes with it.... help
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on November 28, 2010, 06:58:31 PM
I see all kinds of these creatures at night an during the day i try not to pay attention but the one that always gets me to notice him is the man in the hat...he has a trench coat an fedora type hat...hes followed me to work btw wasn't a good night seeing as he walked straight through me an the moon was a blood shot red an i saw all kinds of things that night....had to have someone pick me up from work cause i couldn't move.... an hes tried speaking to me an when i couldn't understand what he was saying he grew frustrated an aggressive with me an actually gave me a migraine.... but not once have i ever seen him by my bed the times Ive seen him have always been outside...he always follows me at night but the first occurrence was in 2005 the last occurrence was a week ago while i was outside smoking a cigarette around 6pm.
I have no more answers than you except you are not alone, nor crazy..as they are recorded all around the world ,same description, same feelings, Myself..I dont look into the darkness as I am going to sleep, I know they are there..They always have been, I am used to them but I still don't like them.
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: chaoticpsyche on November 28, 2010, 08:13:47 PM
I see a hat man as well, except mine has a big smile, but no warmth or emotion behind his. He rarely comes into my home, but if I see his standing outside the sliding glass door leading to my backyard I bow. He tilts his head, and then I continue to walk to where ever I was going.
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: whatami on January 10, 2011, 08:59:05 AM
I have seen a shadow man with a hat, i was around 7 or 8 and it was fall, there was a tree in our yard but all the leaves were off already, but the shadow of the tree on my wall had leaves around the silloette of a man with a top hat. it really freaked me out.

my second encounter was with a shadow person walking across my mirror and when it got to the end of the mirror the bedroom doors upstairs all slammed shut! everyone said the doors slmammed cause the windows were open but noone could explain the shadow, as i was the only one in my room at the time.
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Barek Halfhand on January 10, 2011, 09:28:30 AM
* I wrote this a few years back so some of my views may have changed....

What are Shadow Entities and why are they often linked to sleep paralysis?

Are they ghosts? aliens? demons ? inter-dimensional beings?... Is it possible that they are the earthbound souls trapped in proverbial 'purgatory'? until they can achieve redemption by relieving us of our worldly stresses and daily angst by PSI vamping us in an induced state of immobilization that mimics a natural night time disruption commonly referred to as sleep paralysis? are they simply aliens using our own superstitions against us as a means of covert contact with humans (abduction or house calls)? There have been various types of Shadow Entities entities reported, visually they can bee ranging from 4 feet to as much as 7 feet tall, they have been described as flat and seemingly 2 dimensional, some with glowing red eyes and sometimes wearing a hat and or a hooded cloak, the reports I have read over the last year or so of recreationally researching this subject has enabled me to categorize them into these general titles;

THE SENTINEL- likes to watch

THE ATTACHMENT- "just me and my shadow"

THE PREDATOR-tends to feed off of fear or anxiety that it creates and in turn amplifies

THE RUNNING MAN- zips by out of the corner of your eye (it was fast AND "out of the corner of your eye" BUT you seem to know it was a Shadow)

Of course lets not discount the possibility that this phenomena may be attributed to individuals who are very much alive and are very capable of astral projection and depending on that projected individual,the potential exists for PSI vampirism is well right? My point is this : there are endless reports that filter in to forums like this day after day week after week, month after month and they all seem to have uniformity and consistency in the described encounters, this isn't some sort of pop culture, mass media generated, mass hysteria of "Wars of The Worlds" paranoia principle, this is a quantifiable and record able phenomena that is becoming inescapable as a supernatural subject as of late.

The testimonies I have read just from my limited research on the subject are all frighteningly similar in description ...we all seem to recall a sense malevolence associated with the encounter, my recollection of one of the last few SP/shadow encounters is vivid ....the uniformity of these accountants and diversity of those relating them lead me to believe that there is more to this than just another as an externalized Jungian archetype revealing itself as the classic hooded grim reaper apparition... or as the result of hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations complicated by simple sleep paralysis ...

I remember opening my eyes and seeing a back mist/fog sort of coalescing through the lower left frame of the door... I was completely unable to move, the dream has always included an overwhelming sense of evil that I always feel an instinctual need to shout out at in defiance!...to confront as a means of vanquishing it... the form was dark and consistent with the size of a man when it fully materialized beside by bed and I could tell it was very dark, like unnaturally dark... I could feel the ominous presence as well as see its outline in my straining peripheral vision ...this one was wearing a cloak of sorts but I could discern no facial features as I was rendered completely immobilized by the imposed paralysis and permitted only straight on vision... the odd thing is I then distinctly remember a pillow floating towards my face and having it make enough contact with my face to jolt me completely awake and free...the other variation involves a recurring dream located an old early 1800's seeming farmhouse with a hatched floor door in one of the outer rooms that lead to a basement/ cellar ...I was completely mobile yet when opening the basement door I looked down to the bottom of the stairs following the narrow sliver of light from above and only ever catching the dark outline of something standing just out of the light but always seeming unnaturally dark...and , I am standing at he top of the stairs but MY VOICE IS CUT OFF FROM YELLING AT THE SEETHING PRESENCE IN THE BASEMENT ... sometimes it's a modern sort of a multi leveled basement plant or facility ...now occasionally I do catch glimpses of them running by in my waking state, but nowadays they seem to leave me alone as its going on over a year now since the last episode....

thanks for your time ...

-Barek-
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: onishadowolf on January 10, 2011, 11:15:34 PM
Cassiel, please review the following;

3. Copyrighted material: If you quote text from another web site then please properly credit the source. Not doing so constitutes plagiarism, always include a source link with quoted material. Members are asked to copy only as much as is necessary when quoting copyrighted material from other web sites, do not copy and paste entire articles or web pages.

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This is not a warning, but a forewarning. You are coming close to breaching the rules. I do see merit in what you are doing, but please be advised.
Thank you
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Loki on January 10, 2011, 11:36:24 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on January 11, 2011, 04:09:58 PM
Cassiel, please review the following;

3. Copyrighted material: If you quote text from another web site then please properly credit the source. Not doing so constitutes plagiarism, always include a source link with quoted material. Members are asked to copy only as much as is necessary when quoting copyrighted material from other web sites, do not copy and paste entire articles or web pages.

6. Advertising: Do not advertise or promote other web sites, books, products, media releases or services without express permission from a member of staff. The site is not a free advertising platform, registering an account solely for the purpose of posting promotional material will result in the suspension of your account. If you maintain a personal or other non-commercial web site you may place a short link to it in your profile signature block.

7. Recruitment: Do not recruit site visitors in to joining other web sites, forums or groups, request participation in surveys, petitions, contests, protests, political campaigns, fund raisers or money making schemes.

8. Agenda posting: Do not use the site to promote an agenda. This often involves the starting of forum threads or making posts which appear to be legitimate in nature but which are aimed at surreptitiously promoting some political view, religious belief or to attack or criticise other members, beliefs or views in an underhand manner which detracts from unbiased and fair discussion.

This is not a warning, but a forewarning. You are coming close to breaching the rules. I do see merit in what you are doing, but please be advised.
Thank you
I apologize plugging another site, as that site is a closed to public admission and for reading only, that was a lapse of judgment on my part and not to contest your advisory but in reference to Article 3. of the site rules- I did in fact co-write this report and possess expressed, written consent of the co-author to re-post it freely.

In reference to Article 8. of the site rules, I am at a loss as to how this falls into the category of:
" surreptitiously promoting some political view, religious belief or to attack or criticize other members, beliefs or views in an underhand manner"
a clarification on this part would be greatly appreciated and perhaps lessen the possibility of a repeat infraction 

thanks  :-)
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Barek Halfhand on January 11, 2011, 06:09:25 PM
I can in good conscious claim authorship to my post ...the run-on sentences are proof positive  :-D ....b
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: onishadowolf on January 11, 2011, 09:04:40 PM
I'm sure you did, that's why this is a friendly headsup. You haven't made a breach of the rules yet and I gave you a forewarning because you are close.

Article 8 relates only with the first part, the rest are just examples of it, but not all of them.
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on January 12, 2011, 11:47:30 AM
I'm sure you did, that's why this is a friendly headsup. You haven't made a breach of the rules yet and I gave you a forewarning because you are close.

Article 8 relates only with the first part, the rest are just examples of it, but not all of them.
I appreciate the friendly heads-up, I have deleted the reference to another site.
Title: Re: Collected information about shadow people part 2
Post by: Cassiel on January 12, 2011, 11:49:21 AM
My latest experiences:

From my personal journal:

I’m always intrigued by the voice being cut off, this happened to me the last visit to a home I grew up in that is infested with the shadows and more, it was different than I have ever experienced before; this time I woke up to the pressure of being held down and not being able to speak/scream. I am quite familiar with this type of attack as its happened over and over many times with the exception of this time my voice was cut off. When I woke it was from the pressure of being held down more than anything..I knew some thing was there and it hated me- I could feel it by instinct. I did fight back and I won although it took a few seconds to get up, I still could not talk with my voice but my” will” for lack of a better word seemed fierce as if I instinctively knew to fight it, funny thing… I wanted to fight it.. I could feel my adrenalin rush as I moved without thinking, not even reaching for the light I sat up first, then lightening fast to my feet..that was then end of it; the feeling faded as if the predator did too. I did go back once more not long ago and all along the ceiling I could see the “black snake/worm” looking things going in and out just along where the wall met the ceiling, I do not know what that was…