Bosnian Pyramid Shoots Energy Beam into Space!

[Nina]

This is really an amazing story.  A team of physicists have detected an energy beam that is coming out of the top of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun!    The radius of the beam is 4.5 meters with a frequency of 28 kHz.  The energy beam is continuous and its strength grows as it moves up and away from the pyramid.  The physics they teach us in school says that this is impossible because the intensity of electromagnetic energy goes down the farther you get from the source.  It This pyramid is over 10,000 years old and apparently it's still producing energy after all these years!


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[Jake]

Sam Osmanagić, the American businessman who makes all these claims, never provides photographs, data, research papers, peer reviewed studies, or, in fact, any form of evidence for his bizarre beliefs. But as Egyptologist Dr. Zahi Hawass said: "His previous claim that the Maya are from the Pleiades and Atlantis should be enough for any educated reader..."

It's all very well to say that physicists have detected a beam of energy shooting out of it - but I can say the same about my garden shed. Without proof, they're just empty words.

1. Who are the "physicists"?
2. Where is their research published?
3. What do they mean by "energy beam"? LASER? MASER? Sonic? Particle?
4. Why doesn't this energy beam effect anyone or anything that stands on top of the hill?
5. Why has it never been detected by any other physicist?

Everyone is entitled to hold strange beliefs. The real tragedy here, as pointed out in an article in Science by actual Bosnian archaeologists, is that "funding and attention are going to the fanciful pyramid theory while the nation's real heritage remains underfunded and underprotected. The "Bosnian Pyramids" have become a matter of national pride for a nation still feeling the wounds of the bitter war of the 1990s. Osmanagic has made Bosnia the cradle of civilization, or as he terms it, "supercivilization".

This is the sort of nationalistic chest-thumping that got the Balkans into trouble in the first place."

[Nina]

I guess u havent visited Bosnia lately then?

[Jake]

I guess u havent visited Bosnia lately then?

Relevance?

[Nina]

Yes, quite huge actually. If u walked through the tunnels in the pyramid and saw the thing with ur own eyes, im sure u would talk different. Just cause scientific "big shots" say something is there or isnt, that doesnt mean they are right. Big shots have named many of those that broke the borders of what was thought of as TRUE crazy and phony... but look at them now: all accepted theories and TRUTHS now

[Jake]

If I had been there recently I would have photographed it.

If u walked through the tunnels in the pyramid and saw the thing with ur own eyes, im sure u would talk different.

That's a possibility - but you're saying that and you haven't seen the pyramid or the tunnels, either. You're taking hearsay and passing on more hearsay.

One person who photographed the site extensively in 2006 was Collette Dowell, who said of her findings:

I have traveled around the world studying the design and building methods of ancient sites, including pyramids, stone circles, tumuli, barrows, dolmens, quoits, temples, mounds, cathedrals of various ages and heritage, as well as being involved in restoration of historical sites. My first impression and thought when I stepped on Visocica Hill was, "Where are the remnants of any part of a foundation for such a colossal monument and where are the man-made stones?" I had brought my line levels, squares, compasses, a fifty-foot reel of measuring tape, English and Metric measuring devices, and all of my little gadgets and graph paper I use to draw schematics of any interesting details. I also had my video and still photography camera, tape recorders, and dictators to record and document 'history in the making.' But my gut feeling and what I was experiencing was not of authenticity, it was a farce, phony, not real; what I saw was parts of a hill being chopped, carved, and manufactured into bits of a pyramid that somewhat resembled Central American pyramids. I was flabbergasted. I was in the midst of a huge hoax and commercial enterprise that was politically motivated - and I knew it. Then there was the infamous tunnel, whoa, what a surprise; it was just as unreal as the hills we were hiking...

I comprehend the entire pyramid scheme as a choreographed hoax to boost the economy of Bosnia and to fill the pockets and egos of the elite few at the cost of the many vulnerable who are in need of filling a void within themselves.

[Jake]

Genuine research into the "Bosnian pyramids":

Le site d'Irna - Enquête sur les pseudo-pyramides de Bosnie

(Helpfully, the site can be read in French, English and Serbo-Croat)

[Nina]

I comprehend the entire pyramid scheme as a choreographed hoax to boost the economy of Bosnia and to fill the pockets and egos of the elite few at the cost of the many vulnerable who are in need of filling a void within themselves.

whats that if not a poetic hear-say?

[Jake]

Hm, you could see it that way; the difference is that her work has been published, I'm offering her name, she is well-reported elsewhere. The point I was making is that rather than just say "oh, x is such-and-such" or "a friend/some anonymous person said y" you are able to see exactly what Dowell said and photographed.

With regard to her conclusions about the scheme, that isn't hearsay - that is her directly quoted conclusion. It would only be hearsay if she had said, "I've heard that it is just a hoax etc."

[Nina]

So, someone has credibility if they have money to publish their opinion? Interesting point

[Jake]

Not at all. They have credibility because other people publish their opinion. Big difference.

[Jake]

Besides which, credibility in this instance arises from verifiability and presentation of evidence. Dowell, for example, offers photographs of the naturally occurring geological formations which other geologists agree are not man-made structures, but which pyramid-theorists claim are evidence of a man-made structure. And so on.

If it was purely about who has the most cash and influence, then Sam Osmanagić would win hands down. And interestingly enough, isn't the family business tunnelling..?

[Nina]

Well, i can give u names and addresses of those that were there, and that are helping to clear out the tunnels. Seems they have been filled with sand that u cannot find no where near Visoko, in order to hide there is something of such importance. The difference is, i know personally people that did that, and u dont, u trust someone based on photographs and their legibility is something that we could discuss for hours, debate on why they are accepted and why Semir isnt... maybe we should both go to the pyramids and see for ourselves?

[Jake]

Well, i can give u names and addresses of those that were there, and that are helping to clear out the tunnels.

Are they geologists? Archaeologists? Historians? What exactly are their qualifications?

Seems they have been filled with sand that u cannot find no where near Visoko, in order to hide there is something of such importance.

"Seems"? Another unscientific claim. The aggregate dug out of these tunnels has been declared normal sandstone and Miocene conglomerates by geologists. The same material that the tunnels are dug through, in fact.

The difference is, i know personally people that did that, and u dont, u trust someone based on photographs

I know people who believe in all kinds of things that are unproven. Just because I know them doesn't make them any more trustworthy - evidentially - than someone I don't know.

These tunnels are also not actually in the supposed "pyramid" are they? In fact, Osmanagić has simply declared that anything within about a 10km radius must be part of the "pyramid complex". The tunnels you are talking about are the ones that were found about 3km away at Ravne. Back in 2006 when these were first being explored, fairly modern graffiti was found inside them. This has since been removed. Concrete drainage pipes of a type only used after the start of the 20th century have also been found in them - conveniently, the pyramid people now say they put them there, despite video evidence clearly showing this type of pipe when the tunnels were first "opened up" by the team...

All the real experts have dismissed the tunnel as simply old mine workings which now conveniently fit into the great scheme to build a vast tourist hot spot and archaeological "theme park." They even call themselves The Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Foundation.

One geologist who saw the tunnels in 2006 said: "However, the tunnel we were allowed to see was removed by several kilometers from the socalled "pyramids" and was not in hard bedrock, but in loose, relatively unconsolidated, sand, pebbles, and rock fragments (alluvium or colluvium) that probably date much later than the Miocene rocks of which the "pyramid hills" are formed. We were continually told that these tunnels were ancient, man-made, and had something to do with the "pyramids," but on the face of it the tunnels appeared to possibly be natural features formed by underground streams that have been further enhanced by human excavation, perhaps in relatively recent times. We saw no direct connection between the tunnels and the so-called "pyramids."... Clearly modern graffiti is found throughout the tunnel..."

"The "Pyramid of the Sun," though simply a natural hill, does tower above the surrounding landscape and overlooks Visoko. Its strategic position was recognized in ancient times. The Romans built a fort on its summit, later to be replaced by a medieval fortress. So, yes, there are genuine ancient archaeological remains associated with the "pyramids" of Visoko, but that does not change the fact that they are natural hills. Meanwhile Osmanagic's crews continue their excavations, and as a result the hills surrounding the vicinity of Visoko are being carved and sculpted into Mayan-style step pyramids and their remains hauled off with a tremendous loss of artifacts and fossils..."

As declared by professional archaeologists from around Europe: "This scheme is a cruel hoax on an unsuspecting public and has no place in the world of genuine science. It is a waste of scarce resources that would be much better used in protecting the genuine archaeological heritage and is diverting attention from the pressing problems that are affecting professional archaeologists in BosniaHerzegovina on a daily basis"

[Nina]

Is it your job to discredit everything?

Here are some quite interesting findings that say quite opposite of what your " scientists" say. Sadly, i dont feel like translating, but im sure ull handle :

http://www.jutarnji.hr/piramide--bosna--bosanska-piramida-mjeseca-gradena-je-prije-10-tisuca-godina--/949699/

http://bospiramids.blogspot.com/

http://www.cafe.ba/vijesti/26155_Bosanska-piramida-Sunca-Pronadjena-keramicka-skulptura-od-osam-tona.html

I know people who believe in all kinds of things that are unproven.

I know people who would do ANYTHING to disprove what cannot be made public.