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Monstropedia => Mythical Monsters => Topic started by: Levinthross on October 30, 2008, 12:29:50 AM
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Does anyone have any extensive knowledge of djinn if so please post here.
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Dijnn, Born of the flames and bound forever to serve humanity. Of course they don't like this plan and hate serving anybody for very long. They are not all powerful as they appear, but are forced to grant wishes. Say if you wished for all the Gold in Fort Knox, you would get it but there is no telling how much blood would be shed in order to get it. Jinn can change forms, usually the form of a Black Dog. Interestingly enough they obey the physical limitations of what ever form they choose for as long as they take it, also in these forms they are extremely vulnerable so it is only a short time they take these other forms. They often remain invisible most of the time. The first use of the word Genie was in 1655, in the English language.
Genies have always been notorious tricksters when it comes to their wishes. Forget Disney's blue version these ones will give you exactly what you want, but you may not live to regret it. They will twist any wish made into the darkest thing, or exploit some loophole or condition you never even thought of.
The evil genies can be trapped into an object. The story of the lamp comes from this, but usually the object is something that hopefully will never be used again and can be hidden well. The spirit loses power over its prison and is incapable of destroying it. It maybe released, and who ever releases it gets a wish. Be warned however it may serve the one who frees it, but it has no obligation to respect any who may be with them and may instantly threaten their lives, only to be stopped by a wish to leave their friends alone or not kill them, wasting the wish. Then it may choose to destroy the one who released it if they did not include themselves in that singular wish.
They are Arabic in origin and roam the deserts, they are blamed for the dust storms that arise at complete random. They are only found else where in the world if their prison has been transported over the ages unknowingly, or sought out by greedy people who want a wish for some selfish reason hardly knowing the whole story as they were disillusioned by the overwhelming amount of misinformation put out there.
While normally evil, there is the rare good one does exist, but these ones prefer to keep hidden from man altogether. They are born of fire, and connected to that element. In theory they are not permitted to cross over water, it would explain why they are in the desert. They are immortal as long as they are not killed while in another form. Jinn are rare creatures and best to leave them alone...
That is, if you believe in them. Of their existence, I can't say one way or the other.
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But a djinn's origins some say there are methods to creating a djin others say that djinn are sort of like guardian entities born to us and finally most consider them a demon if they can even spell djinn.
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I'm sorry, but all I got is what I saw from that movie where an evil djinn is trapped in a rubie & has to grant three wishes to be set free. :?
& we all know how little we can trust Hollywood. :roll:
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well from what i know djinn are entity's of fire/lightning and air who when bound to an object or summoned to the aid of a magician must complete a set of tasks asked by the magician.
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Air? Is that like the desert storms entities? Who cause the sudden, lethal, sandstorms? Or are those elementals? :?
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from what Ive read they are sort of elemental s of fire but have air abilities ranging from creating sandstorms to creating lightning controlling weather and influencing tornadoes.
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OH!!! Then I have a general idea of what the Djinn are.
There are two, I think. Those that dwell in the desert, & create sandstorms. & those who live in the air, & make those huge tornadoes & hurricanes.
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that might be afrits (which are just very very powerful djinn)
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I thought Afrit was just a specific fire demon? :?
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well this whole thread is me basically trying to find out if imps,djinn and afrits are actually demons but there are ranks an imp is at the lowest then there's ghouls likewise djinn and afrits if one manages to gain more power they move up to the next class.
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Wait, so does that mean that a specific demon can EVOLVE (for a lack of better word) into something more? :?
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well if and so djinn are demons then theoretically if that djinn can gain enough power not only would they be more powerful (through there accumulation of power) but would change physical shape and be referred to as a different class of djinn, afrit.
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According to Islamic theology, Djinn are indeed beings that are similair to demons. Most notorious among them is Iblis who incensed by the decision of God to elevate humans over the jinn, revolted against his master. However, a key difference between them and the demons found in Christian theology is that unlike the latter, the Djinn are creatures of free will and thus can choose to adhere to the principals of Islam and thereby earn the favour of God. Many of them do not choose this course however, due to their fiery and unpredictable temprement which is reflects the nature of the smokeless fire that birthed them.
Moroever, just like us, they can procreate, eat, drink and even die, although with regard to the last, their lifespan greatly exceeds that of ours. And to conclude, when the Djinn perish, they will find themselves facing the judgement of God, just like humans. Thus, to determine whether the Djinn are even demons in the first place will be a difficult question to resolve.
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So Djinn CAN be good? They just don't want to? :?
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yes you could put it that way just like people arent inherently vile just lawyers and politicians *<:)
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Levinthross is right. Since the Djinn possess free will much like us, it is impossible for them to be innately evil. Alas, their nature is such that wrecking havoc on mortals appeals to them more than a virtous existence. However, there have been a few Djinn that after listening to Mohamad's sermon, chose to embrace Islam and in doing so, won divine salvation
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but can anyone tell me if they are daemons or not because in some places there regarded as fey in others all spirits are regarded as djinn
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They are seperate from such classifications.
See, Faeries are an entirely European concept, while the idea of malicious spirits, or demons, is present in all mythologies. Some Faeries of lore are considered quite evil and violent, while some of the "good" faeries of ancient belief were demonized when Christianity spread across Europe.
To draw a clear line and group spirits of lore into largely modern classifications would be fruitless, because there really is no distinction in some cases.
It's really like comparing apples and oranges.
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thanks kreeps that actually clears it up a bit now does anyone know the names of the four djinn tribes i know there are the ghuls, djinn, and marids but what else.
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I know this is way done with. but I have add that an Afrit is not a demon, it is a spirit of vengeance springing from the spilled blood of victim of a volient murder. They are some what of fire elemental, but really they're just discribed as a fiery spirit of vengeance.
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interesting thanks although ive never heard of this interpratation??? do you know were i can find out more?
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Wikipedia, or yahoo one search. That's how I found more info, but originally I read it in the book "Thousand nights". So, there.