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The Darker Side => Demons, Demonology and The Devil => Topic started by: adamn on July 21, 2009, 07:44:19 AM
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Hello.
I was recently browsing e-Bay and discovered something that I believe is fake.
Some people are selling rings, bracelets, necklaces, etc, that are supposed to contain the soul (or whatever) of a demon. The trapped demon helps you with your money troubles, your love life and they claim to offer many more powers and abilities.
Some also claim that they have trapped djinn, dragons and vampires in these rings too.
Are these real? Do they work? Or are people just being conned out of quite a bit of money.
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Good question- One that I dont know, just cause I haven't ever heard of it. I wouldn't know for sure.
I do know that there are plenty of ways of trapping a demon... Through a shard of broken glass- in a Triangle or Circle depending on the spirit. Even in a idol or statue. So I'm sure the idea could be real. But the real question is wether you think the seller knows enough to be able to trap a spirit of that power in the object.
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Hello.
I was recently browsing e-Bay and discovered something that I believe is fake.
Some people are selling rings, bracelets, necklaces, etc, that are supposed to contain the soul (or whatever) of a demon. The trapped demon helps you with your money troubles, your love life and they claim to offer many more powers and abilities.
Some also claim that they have trapped djinn, dragons and vampires in these rings too.
Are these real? Do they work? Or are people just being conned out of quite a bit of money.
Selling on EBay? I'm sorry, but only the foolish would buy something like this, and not because it has a "Demon Spirit". It is obviously a fake, for fools to pretend that they are dark and mysterious. Let me ask you this. Why would someone who has the knowledge and skill to trap such an entity simply sell it to the highest bidder? Would they not offer it to someone of more consequence, to someone who could further the persons own ambitions? With Ebay it could easily land in some foolish emo's possession, which while easily controlled would ultimately be a useless exercise in power. No my friend, don't fall for such an obvious ploy. Besides, if it really were to have a trapped demon, and god forbid the holding seal somehow is broken, what will you do with a pissed off demon that was forced into imprisonment and is now in your possession?
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I was never going to buy one.
I just wanted to know if such a thing was real.
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Setting aside the issue of the items on Ebay which are most certainly fakes. The idea of trapping a demon/spirit inside an item is found in many mythologies. The most well known, & the one that sounds like what the ebay sellers are going for, is the Djinn or genie in a bottle/lamp/gem. So, yes it is possible to trap a spirit in an inanimate object.
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Setting aside the issue of the items on Ebay which are most certainly fakes. The idea of trapping a demon/spirit inside an item is found in many mythologies. The most well known, & the one that sounds like what the ebay sellers are going for, is the Djinn or genie in a bottle/lamp/gem. So, yes it is possible to trap a spirit in an inanimate object.
Possible yes, smart and safe? No.
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Very true, just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.
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Maybe it is real and they are selling it because they're bored and want to cause some mischief. lol
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Maybe it is real and they are selling it because they're bored and want to cause some mischief. lol
Then pick a Senator or Governor and send it anonymously, as a gift. Worse case, they give it to someone in the household, however, the effect would cause some true mischief.
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I have two sets of demon rings, there are five rings on each set and when I put them on, someone always has hell to pay.
they are made of brass, just incase someone didnt get it.
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they are made of brass, just incase someone didnt get it.
Thats a first step, as opposed the crappy jewlery they sell at places like Spencers.
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oops 4 instead of 5, "brass knucks" , just kidding anyway
on a more serious note, I guess it would be posable for a demon to be traped in jewlery, a dimond or crystal of some sort, but I doubt if there has been anyone alive capable of traping one in the last thousand years or so.
but I guess it would be posable for a demon to link itself with an object, if it waunted to do so.
but why the hell would anyone waunt to own something that would only bring them trouble?
you cant control a demon,
It can control us, but we cant control it.
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I have seen these myself. The only thing that has possibly been done to this jewelery is one of the millions of rituals that can be found in one of the millions of variations of pagan/wican/magi/christian/jewish (almost any you could think of) religions or whatever belief system there using. If you believe in that then yes there is a trapped spirit in it. Since the word demon can be translated to mean a million different things it could be anything from a spirit to an angel to a demon to nothing thats in the jewel. If your particular belief or just theories says that demons can be trapped then there could be. I bought a friend a ring off ebay that had apparantly been blessed to provide the wearer with more patience. I must say it worked. Could be coincidence, could be magic, thats up for me and my friend to determine, no one else. Just dont expect to buy one and actualy see a cloven hoofed, pointy horned, fallen angel inside it. Im afraid it doesnt work like that.
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I have seen these myself. The only thing that has possibly been done to this jewelery is one of the millions of rituals that can be found in one of the millions of variations of pagan/wican/magi/christian/jewish (almost any you could think of) religions or whatever belief system there using. If you believe in that then yes there is a trapped spirit in it. Since the word demon can be translated to mean a million different things it could be anything from a spirit to an angel to a demon to nothing thats in the jewel. If your particular belief or just theories says that demons can be trapped then there could be. I bought a friend a ring off ebay that had apparantly been blessed to provide the wearer with more patience. I must say it worked. Could be coincidence, could be magic, thats up for me and my friend to determine, no one else. Just dont expect to buy one and actualy see a cloven hoofed, pointy horned, fallen angel inside it. Im afraid it doesnt work like that.
All of this is TRUE. I new there was a reason I liked you Angelus.
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does a imp poseesed pinky-toe ring count :-D
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does a imp poseesed pinky-toe ring count :-D
Erm.... Yeah. Why not.
All of this is TRUE. I new there was a reason I liked you Angelus.
Its cause of my hair isnt it. Everyone loves the hair.
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I'm not everyone.
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No your not everyone. That would be odd if you were the single embodyment of every human being on the planet Raz. By odd, I really mean farked up to a celestial degree.
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I'm not everyone.
Nor are you anybody.
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I'm not everyone.
Nor are you anybody.
That was either deep or a nasty burn.
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he means it too.
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In which sense.
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He actualy means that Raz is no one at all, as in He dosnt even count.
I think.
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There is no Raz? Only Zool?
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Zool? or Fool?
sory Raz, I just cant help it.
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Dude. You totaly turned my ghostbusters reference into a Mr T one. Well done. lol.
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I've seen rings and bracelets advertised to help with wealth, prosperity, patience, etc... but I've never heard of someone claiming there was a demon or spirit inside. Do they not realize how easily these things are broken? Especially if it's something you wear in your day to day life?? Bang your hand on something and the ring breaks... if there really is a demon inside... you're farking screwed.
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No guys lol, I am not trying to stir up Raz, it is supposed to be deep. He is not everyone or anyone(anybody) HE is Raziel, and even if he causes me greif upon occasion, I'd not trade him in. The time I tried to be him was an interesting experience.
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Hello.
I was recently browsing e-Bay and discovered something that I believe is fake.
Some people are selling rings, bracelets, necklaces, etc, that are supposed to contain the soul (or whatever) of a demon. The trapped demon helps you with your money troubles, your love life and they claim to offer many more powers and abilities.
Some also claim that they have trapped djinn, dragons and vampires in these rings too.
Are these real? Do they work? Or are people just being conned out of quite a bit of money.
Im not saying that those rings on e-bay were real but i do have a ring with a spirit trapped inside. i confiscated it from a young man who started acting a little wierd after he fell upon this ring. he bought it at a flea market and started wearing it around all the time. he never took it off. I asked him to see the ring and he almost bit my head off over it. so i argued wiht him for about an hour trying to get him to give me the ring when a buddy of mine walked in. he had noticed the same thing i had (mind you this had been going on for like a week) we started preying on his weaknesses and eventually got the ring from him. after a couple days he went back to normal. to this day i have the ring sealed in a locked container in my garage until i can get the proper means to destroy it.
So yews they are real
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Tronth I would do as you have done, Confiscate and store for later. However I am not sure I would destroy it. I would meditate on the best action for a long period of time. I would determine if communication with spirit is possible and safe. If it is then I would talk things over and ask spirit what it wants. I would ask its name and do research.
It may want out and go to heaven or it may be a demon who wants to make a necklace out of you.
I know it is indeed possible to put spirits into objects but that usually requires their consent. Unless they are being trapped inside for punishment. To actually have a real entity in an object and not an image or a blessing of the entity is rare. These objects are to be handled carefully.
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Well i never had the intention of destroying the spirit inside by destroying the ring i would thus release the spirit back to its realm
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ok i have one word for this, even tho its possible to trap DEMONS but if u think 'bout it with COMMON SENSE then its completely understandable that this is for sure a SCAM. i mean come on trapping a DEMON only pisses 'em off even more and then torture u even more for that, not back down and be a slave XD. u've got to remember that demons don't like to play nice unless they get to hurt u later *<:)
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Hello.
I was recently browsing e-Bay and discovered something that I believe is fake.
Some people are selling rings, bracelets, necklaces, etc, that are supposed to contain the soul (or whatever) of a demon. The trapped demon helps you with your money troubles, your love life and they claim to offer many more powers and abilities.
Some also claim that they have trapped djinn, dragons and vampires in these rings too.
Are these real? Do they work? Or are people just being conned out of quite a bit of money.
Im not saying that those rings on e-bay were real but i do have a ring with a spirit trapped inside. i confiscated it from a young man who started acting a little wierd after he fell upon this ring. he bought it at a flea market and started wearing it around all the time. he never took it off. I asked him to see the ring and he almost bit my head off over it. so i argued wiht him for about an hour trying to get him to give me the ring when a buddy of mine walked in. he had noticed the same thing i had (mind you this had been going on for like a week) we started preying on his weaknesses and eventually got the ring from him. after a couple days he went back to normal. to this day i have the ring sealed in a locked container in my garage until i can get the proper means to destroy it.
So yews they are real
Sounds kind of like the Lord of the Rings.. or Harry Potter and the Horcruxes. lol.
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oh and i didn't think of that XD
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Sounds kind of like the Lord of the Rings.. or Harry Potter and the Horcruxes. lol.
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It does doesn't it
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maybe the person is selling these rings is a lord of the rings/harry potter/horcruxes fanatic :-o
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maybe
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i mean doesn't it sound too good to be true ?
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i don't buy it.
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XD EXACTLY, finally some1 agrees with me *<:)
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Hello.
I was recently browsing e-Bay and discovered something that I believe is fake.
Some people are selling rings, bracelets, necklaces, etc, that are supposed to contain the soul (or whatever) of a demon. The trapped demon helps you with your money troubles, your love life and they claim to offer many more powers and abilities.
Some also claim that they have trapped djinn, dragons and vampires in these rings too.
Are these real? Do they work? Or are people just being conned out of quite a bit of money.
Selling on EBay? I'm sorry, but only the foolish would buy something like this, and not because it has a "Demon Spirit". It is obviously a fake, for fools to pretend that they are dark and mysterious. Let me ask you this. Why would someone who has the knowledge and skill to trap such an entity simply sell it to the highest bidder? Would they not offer it to someone of more consequence, to someone who could further the persons own ambitions? With Ebay it could easily land in some foolish emo's possession, which while easily controlled would ultimately be a useless exercise in power. No my friend, don't fall for such an obvious ploy. Besides, if it really were to have a trapped demon, and god forbid the holding seal somehow is broken, what will you do with a pissed off demon that was forced into imprisonment and is now in your possession?
I am going to take the time to point out I was the first to call fake on this. (BTW, I still say it is fake, fit only for the gullible.)
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i completely agree with muerte X).. seriously any1 that buys a demon ring is only asking for hell to break on their ass XD
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The closest thing I would say to this that would be real is a piece of jewelery that has had a spell done over it for luck, love or something along those lines. I wouldn't just dismiss the possibility of a spirit being trapped in it. After all, don't we spend every day discussing demons, monsters and magic? I personally doubt it but I do not dismiss the possibility.
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long time no see angelus. but i do agree the possiblities are endless but i dont think that anyone who knew what they were talking about would be selling rings entrapped with demons
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Its amazing what some people will sell. Also it depends on the persons definition of the words. Demon can be used very loosely, it could just be a spirit and trapped could just be another way of saying tethered or attached. Much like the christan belief that a cross carries devine protection or a Saint Christopher pendant can give us guidance by Saint Christopher himself. Some people just jazz up the lingo to make it sound cooler than it is.
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Why not? It all depends on the INTENT of the person selling the item.
True.
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I think it's quite clear, someone uses LoTR or smth like that to sell rings wannabees want to have and want to believe is real (Wizard's First Rule (sword of truth series), I see it more and more each day) or it is real and dangerous... either way, it's a scam and I do think it isn't the latter one...
I think we came to a conclusion in this topic? don't you guys/gals agree? It's about time someone closes this topic right?
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Its amazing what some people will sell. Also it depends on the persons definition of the words. Demon can be used very loosely, it could just be a spirit and trapped could just be another way of saying tethered or attached. Much like the christan belief that a cross carries devine protection or a Saint Christopher pendant can give us guidance by Saint Christopher himself. Some people just jazz up the lingo to make it sound cooler than it is.
BRAVO!!!! This thought had occurred to me long ago (though my term was Poltergeist). After all it would be much easier to tether a spirit to an object than it would be a demon would it not. That and the spirit would cause just as much damage to the untrained observer. Also the one who attaches the spirit would run a much smaller risk by dealing with a human spirit as opposed to a demonic one.
I want to ask a question. What does a circle represent in magic?
Oh hell, I just can't wait for someone to answer this so....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_circle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_circle)
Now what about the metals used to make the rings? Yes, metals posses a definite place when used in magics. I'll let you guys play with that one for a bit. (I do however think we have diluted the trapped entity from Demon down to ghost/poltergeist).
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Its amazing what some people will sell. Also it depends on the persons definition of the words. Demon can be used very loosely, it could just be a spirit and trapped could just be another way of saying tethered or attached. Much like the christan belief that a cross carries devine protection or a Saint Christopher pendant can give us guidance by Saint Christopher himself. Some people just jazz up the lingo to make it sound cooler than it is.
BRAVO!!!! This thought had occurred to me long ago (though my term was Poltergeist). After all it would be much easier to tether a spirit to an object than it would be a demon would it not. That and the spirit would cause just as much damage to the untrained observer. Also the one who attaches the spirit would run a much smaller risk by dealing with a human spirit as opposed to a demonic one.
I want to ask a question. What does a circle represent in magic?
Oh hell, I just can't wait for someone to answer this so....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_circle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_circle)
Now what about the metals used to make the rings? Yes, metals posses a definite place when used in magics. I'll let you guys play with that one for a bit. (I do however think we have diluted the trapped entity from Demon down to ghost/poltergeist).
Quite true. I wear a pair of Tungsten steel rings; one is my original wedding band, the other is its replacement. Each has a definite and noticeable effect on my focus, and it increases exponentially over time... Also, just to get you kids interested; Tungsten steel is just about the only alloy or element which WILL NOT accept any imbuing, or cannot be imbued with ease. So, no spells, ties, or entrapments can be laid within my rings.
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talking about focus, I can open up all chakras from root to troath at will without meditation, I'dd say you don't really need external items to get focus, just practice...
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Wizard's first rule!!!!!!!!! remind what I've stated in other threads: People are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want it to be true; or they're afraid it's true.
this works not only from person A to person B
if you want the rings to work to advance your power they will because you'll get more focused you'll believe you'll be able to use the full extent of your powers because of the rings, but it's between your ears like we say it in belgium...
The items themselves in most cases don't do s**t except make you believe that you can do it with those on you.
there are items that give boosts though, but they are rare, more common are those that drain your powers because they emmit negative energy and negative substances that make you ill or tired...
True power comes from within! if I would hand you a plain plastic ring and I would deceive you saying that it works and you'll be able to use your powers at will to the extent that you are 200% sure it will work you will have the confidence that will make it work, but guess what... if you believe in your own will and when it finally works the results are more amazing because the power will be nothing compared to the effects of fake rings and such.
I'm doing what I was taught here, train your will and practice. That's what I'm doing and I believe in myself
Also I have a drive that I find may come in the open now: (directed to Moloch) Moloch says that all by all I'm weak... I train because I need to power to protect those I love that are unaware of the dangers surrounding them. but also I want to prove him wrong, sry Moloch, you're wrong and I'll prove it, I'm getting stronger by the day. if you want I will pm you the achievements I've gained so far since our last contact via via.
believe in yourself, find a good drive to keep your focus on your goal and you'll get there without external focus materials. I've never needed them and I have a concentrationdisorder... if you want it, really want it, you can overcome anything by your will alone.
please my offer of pointing out my theoretical flaws still stands... this is my opinion and what I use to get by, it works for me, but this does not mean it's true.
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talking about focus, I can open up all chakras from root to troath at will without meditation, I'dd say you don't really need external items to get focus, just practice...
Also Wizard's first rule!!!!!!!!! remind what I've stated in other threads: People are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want it to be true; or they're afraid it's true.
this works not only from person A to person B
if you want the rings to work to advance your power they will because you'll get more focused you'll believe you'll be able to use the full extent of your powers because of the rings, but it's between your ears like we say it in belgium...
The items themselves in most cases don't do s**t except make you believe that you can do it with those on you.
there are items that give boosts though, but they are rare, more common are those that drain your powers because they emmit negative energy and negative substances that make you ill or tired...
True power comes from within! if I would hand you a plain plastic ring and I would deceive you saying that it works and you'll be able to use your powers at will to the extent that you are 200% sure it will work you will have the confidence that will make it work, but guess what... if you believe in your own will and when it finally works the results are more amazing because the power will be nothing compared to the effects of fake rings and such.
I'm doing what I was taught here, train your will and practice. That's what I'm doing and I believe in myself
Also I have a drive that I find may come in the open now: (directed to Moloch) Moloch says that all by all I'm weak... I train because I need to power to protect those I love that are unaware of the dangers surrounding them. but also I want to prove him wrong, sry Moloch, you're wrong and I'll prove it, I'm getting stronger by the day. if you want I will pm you the achievements I've gained so far since our last contact via via.
believe in yourself, find a good drive to keep your focus on your goal and you'll get there without external focus materials. I've never needed them and I have a concentrationdisorder... if you want it, really want it, you can overcome anything by your will alone.
please my offer of pointing out my theoretical flaws still stands... this is my opinion and what I use to get by, it works for me, but this does not mean it's true.
I never said what kind of focus, Lex... And you have an inkling of what I can do when I set my mind to it. Others here have far more than an inkling.
As for my comments about Tungsten steel alloys, they are based on research, both external, and personal. Can I imbue them, and make them accept energies? Certainly. But I am no ordinary magical practitioner, and so cannot simply say this because your average little pagan will never be able to do what I do.
As for what you can do, Lex; don't get cocky.
there are items that give boosts though, but they are rare, more common are those that drain your powers because they emmit negative energy and negative substances that make you ill or tired...
You have been told what I am, and some of what I am capable, and since then I have grown more in every direction... exponentially more, and even back then, Negative energies were my bread and butter - as we say here in the US. I am an energetic toxic waste dump, young man. Never forget it. I also understand more of what you speak on than you even dream that you grasp. So, please, stop lecturing me on matters that I can lay waste to you on.
Moloch says that all by all I'm weak... I train because I need to power to protect those I love that are unaware of the dangers surrounding them. but also I want to prove him wrong, sry Moloch, you're wrong and I'll prove it, I'm getting stronger by the day.
If you have grown so much, use your newfound strengths and gaze on me, as Kreepy once did. He was by far and away stronger than you, and even he fell out of his chair in sheer terror at what he saw. And this was a couple of years ago, before I began to advance again.
But, by all means, train, practice. Work to become the best you can be. There is nothing wrong with that. Just don't measure your success against the likes of me, or Kreepy; you will likely be disappointed.
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moloch, please don't feel directed by the focus, I KNOW what you are, and if you use a focus it won't be for what someone would buy demon rings for...
I'm well aware you don't need them for that, I'm stating that others shouldn't turn to focus items too quickly because it's a weakness.
About your rings, that's cool^^
I don't lecture you, never my intention. I apoligize if it came over that way.
about my advancing in training is to show you I'm not as weak as you state I am, nothing more.
I keep all advice you've given me close to heart and in my mind at all times ;)
If you don't mind I'll pm you now on what I have achieved in the time since the last time you helped me out.
edit: also: I'll try my best not to get cocky ^^ I can't do much now, maybe never will, but I can perhaps become more than you said I can be ;) that's what I want to reach
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unless it was actually made by the person selling it...i don't see how binding something spiritual to a cheap piece of jewelery would be possible...in most bindings there are always symbols required and some metals are better at containing spiritual energy than others...not to mention settings and other fabrication methods, someone who actually knows how to work with metal could do it. otherwise it could be any pewter/tin quarter machine ring. i don't thinf many people could afford the materials to make a ring that would hold anything with a significant will...eastern metalsmiths are the original spritual metalurgists, so naturally they could forge something that fantastic, like a gold oil lamp and easily chase the symbols to forever imprint them.
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Lex - Understand that I speak from a level of experience you have no idea of yet, and no, you don't know what I am now. You only know what I was. The difference between these two states of being is as great a gulf as the one between what I was and what you are. Understand that I do not say these things to discourage you, but to educate you. It is fine and desirable to teach a youngling to look at the sky and wish for the stars, but it would be irredeemably irresponsible to not teach you to set realistic goals for working towards those stars.
Look at it this way: You are an Earthling, and you have been visited by a being from across the cosmos who arrived without the aid of any ship or any technology you understand. You decide that you want to be able to do the same thing. However, you haven't even mastered flight yet.
Get off the ground first, youngling.
Jordyn - I actually noticed this effect after I got married and this with the original band. I had bought it because it was nigh on indestructible. After I noticed the effect, I did some research. There are no symbols on either of my rings, and considering the nature of Tungsten steel, there never will be unless I reforge them.
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We got way off topic here.
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Not so much. We're still talking about rings and all that stuff. This is more of a sub-topic. I do agree, however, that we need to find a way to get lost in the topic though.
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@ moloch: you have a demon in your ring? my response was actually in reference to the original question from the perspective of a metalsmith that understands the spiritual realm. i don't know who made your rings but there are so many metals out there now and people who mix and match them that i'll need another two year degree to understand it beyond smithing. i imagine if the wearer's will is stronger than the bound spirit's, maybe...until it found it's escape, i sure as heck wouldn't buy it online, i'd just forge it myself. ;) it got backon topic. :D
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Heh, no, no demon in my rings. Unless maybe you're calling me a demon; in which case, thank you for the compliment/insult.
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a properly fabricated piece of jewelery will survive time, no enchantments required. however trapping, binding or other infusing would have to be done during creation. in my not so humble opinion as an apprentice metalsmith. i'd never compare you to an insignificant demon, a dichotomy of arcane knowledges possibly but that's not a bad thing, i doubt you could be contained in a ring anyhow. ;)
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Moloch, please do not be offended if I stated things that came over wrong, I did not refer to you, but was stating towards other younglings like myself
Look at it this way: You are an Earthling, and you have been visited by a being from across the cosmos who arrived without the aid of any ship or any technology you understand. You decide that you want to be able to do the same thing. However, you haven't even mastered flight yet.
Get off the ground first, youngling.
I haven't mastered it yet, but I have some theories on how I would be able to do it. But I'm far from even trying them out. I did learn acceleration a while back, but haven't mastered it yet.
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I would like to hear some of the theories behind this. I find this rather intriguing
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I would like to hear some of the theories behind this. I find this rather intriguing
Elaborate. There is after all more than one theory on this thread.
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Moloch, please do not be offended if I stated things that came over wrong, I did not refer to you, but was stating towards other younglings like myself
Look at it this way: You are an Earthling, and you have been visited by a being from across the cosmos who arrived without the aid of any ship or any technology you understand. You decide that you want to be able to do the same thing. However, you haven't even mastered flight yet.
Get off the ground first, youngling.
I haven't mastered it yet, but I have some theories on how I would be able to do it. But I'm far from even trying them out. I did learn acceleration a while back, but haven't mastered it yet.
I am fairly certain what Moloch was saying was a metaphor.
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Well i want to hear all his theories. He said some so i want to hear them all.
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Now that is the proverbial tall order. One wonders if he has the time for such an endeavor.
P.S. Most of his "theories" are much more than that.
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Angelus and Muerte are right... especially since most of my 'theories' are not theories, but based in fact, experience, and research and what I said last was just a metaphor. How anyone could mistake one for the other is beyond me.
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moloch: autism ^^
anyway, some theories are: placing energy beneath yourself as to make you ligther, another could be placing energy platforms on the air that float on which you could attempt to stand. I have had loads more and the one I think has the highest chance of succes is the one where you place energy beneath you pushing you upwards (kind of telekenisis on yourself).
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i will have to try that and see what i can do. probably wont succeed at first though but ill let you know.
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moloch: autism ^^
anyway, some theories are: placing energy beneath yourself as to make you ligther, another could be placing energy platforms on the air that float on which you could attempt to stand. I have had loads more and the one I think has the highest chance of succes is the one where you place energy beneath you pushing you upwards (kind of telekenisis on yourself).
The above theory you reference is no theory, it was a metaphor that I was using in an attempt to explain to you the vast gulf between your development, and mine.
Please, try to keep up.
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i understood the metaphor i was still intrigued by flight theories
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i understood the metaphor i was still intrigued by flight theories
If it serves to get one thinking and doing than it is a good thing.
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Indubitably
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flight theories?
if we were intended to fly we'd have had wings, we figured out how to create flying machines instead.
the only, possible way one could experience flight would be something astraly, the spirit is light enough to defy gravity, i hear they have zero g experiences, it's more weightlessness then flying, but physically? even traditional witch flight sensation is attributed to an herbal mixture of belladonna and babyfat.
it's like a human female giving birth to a half breed demon...physically it's not possible and if anyone could do it they'd be rich or involved with a small, elite group of dark magicians that figured out how to alter our physical state allowing us to be lighter than air, they can figure out how to make goldstone, but it's not gold, just a pretty glitter rock.
the whole point of the metaphor was to show that you need to know how to get a ticket before you can go to europe, you have to have credit before you get the credit card to book the flight and you most definitly need to know what you are getting involved with, before you get involved and end up lost somewhere you have no clue how to get back from.
however d&d has rings of flight...
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random d&d puns are awesome!!! lol
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it wasn't a pun, more of a comparison as to the near impossibility of non assisted human flight. the theories are fascinating but nothing practical or proven yet.
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i understood the metaphor i was still intrigued by flight theories
Do you really have to tempt me?
Ok, since flight is what you're interested in... here's one. See, it's said that when you die, you float away from your body. So, all you need to do is engineer a little NDE, then you get to fly to your heart's content. Good luck though, most people only get it half right. We call them "suicides".
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And it all come round and joins with another conversation that was happening about inducing NDEs so before everyone jumps in and says it I will get it out the way. Ahem.... don't induce Near Death Experiences as it may just become a Death Experience....... Bla bla........ And knowig is half the battle.
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I thought I said that already.
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You did Moloch but you have to spell it out before all the other people all start jumping in and going on about how dangerous it is and bla bla.
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What? You mean I shouldn't be letting people entertain me via their stupidity?
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Now Moloch. You know better than that. You shouldn't be entertained by others stupidity. You should be outraged and angered. Then entertained by their excuses for their lack of knowlege.
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I personally don't express my bias when people demonstrate their stupidity. If they can't figure out that what they are doing may cause their death then let nature settle this problem. I like to watch natural selection in person (way better then animal planet). Who am I to rob nature of its job?
I don't think it is a sin to let nature run its course. Without my intervention I am enhancing the genes of future offspring.
If other individuals find nature entertaining as well then I don't see a problem with it. I am not going to get angry, I am going to get a lawn chair.
However when there is stupidity expressed through non-life-threatening means I must endure the pain of losing my I.Q. points. Usually it is too painful for me to find it humorous. :doh:
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chlorine(spelling) for the gene pool.
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Exactly. Nice to see that the next generation has at least a few naturalists in it.
Oh, and I don't tolerate stupidity that doesn't endanger the lives of the stupid. I try to help it along. You know... telling them to go play on the highway, swim in a tub filled with dirty hypodermic needles, take up a job retrieving golf balls from water hazards here in the South... the list is endless.
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Compassion is for women and children; the stupid and inferior deserve none.
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stuff like this... you don't wanna mess with it, real or fake. When you put a demon in a ring or necklace or something like that you conduct its energy into yourself in order to accomplish your goal. Demon's are essentially their power, and they could theoretically destroy/possess someone easily through that object. Demon power... bad idea
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stuff like this... you don't wanna mess with it, real or fake. When you put a demon in a ring or necklace or something like that you conduct its energy into yourself in order to accomplish your goal. Demon's are essentially their power, and they could theoretically destroy/possess someone easily through that object. Demon power... bad idea
interesting point about real or fake; at what point can our fake become real and what we thought was a fun game, becomes a nightmare for others?
we can't figure out the human brain and the depth of it's abilities, have no clear definition of what's being engaged and can't even agree on where they come from, we just know they are there. *shrugs*
so, what's a demon?
at that point i think a person could began to play around with such notions... but if they fail to have the knowledge of what they're going up against and the counters available, they need to learn a lot more before about the capabilities of their mind, before playing cat and mouse with creatures we really have no clue as to what they are or what drives their minds.
humans are easy too figure out...we're still in our primal stage, they ascended the flesh and we're still bound to it.
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I so hope this doesn't count as a dead thread... if it does, I'm sorry! (On the positive side of it being dead, I now know the perfect time span of when not to comment!)
Through my experiences, I've used marbles in order to remove a dark entity from a location or another object and place a seal on it. I have yet to have one jump out of it. So, it's possible to trap demons/darker spirits into objects. It's just harder to keep them in it without the proper work. But I agree with Cylinder (and anyone else who may have said this), don't mess with it unless you know what you are doing...
On a note about E-bay, I wouldn't trust too much of their mystical gear. I know people on there and 4 out of 5 are just looking for a nickle in their pocket.
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*<:) *<:) Just like on Ghost Busters!!!
Sorry... couldn't resist.
Playing with demons is a bad idea. Doesn't matter if you know your way around. If you're not Satan or his master, just leave them alone. And if you're stupid enough to dabble in the dark waters, then don't blame me for laughing when you drown.
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So true. Leave the darkness to those of us who can see in the dark, kids.
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What's that?!
(http://beeknee.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/splinter_cell_chaos_theory.jpg)
Splinterowned!
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Uhm............ what? *<:)
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NVGs Kadesh to see in the dark... :p get it... cause Moloch said leave it to those who can see in the dark. O__O
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The Levity is understood however let us not loose sight of the import of Moloch's' advice, items such as these should only be handled (or disposed of) by those of proper ability.
(of course MoMo dose enjoy watching the occasion moron attempting to access something which should be left well enough alone)
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The Levity is understood however let us not loose sight of the import of Moloch's' advice, items such as these should only be handled (or disposed of) by those of proper ability.
(of course MoMo dose enjoy watching the occasion moron attempting to access something which should be left well enough alone)
I don't plan on accessing anything that I know I shouldn't. I will stand at the very back of the line! Ano... Who's MoMo? O_O I ask cause one of my friends gave me a nickname a while ago and it was Mightymomo... O__O
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MoMo is a shorten term of endearment that was bequeathed unto our very own Uncle MoMo (or more properly Uncle Moloch). It is something that those of us who have been within these hallowed halls use in reference of HE.
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OH!!! Ok :) Now I'm not so lost! :D
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This reminds me of the legends of the Muramasa blades.
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Yeah, I forget if it was Kadesh or Raziel who coined the term... or someone else. If it was Raziel though, be assured he payed for it with plenty of pain and torment.
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See, Moloch when you say something like that I get curious but I know deep down I just don't wanna know. Also be assured I will not call you that. :D I do so wish to continue my days in peace.
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Let's just say Raz didn't want to know either... and that you are a smart woman indeed.
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:D I wouldn't say smart, just fond of living in peace for the most part
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It was me who started calling you Uncle Momo... and I believe it was a spin off of Uncle Pervy. It made me laugh, so I used it.
And I know what the specs are for, chaotic... I was referring to what was written at the bottom of the picture. "Splinterowned" .... I'm sure it has something to do with some game, but I'm still not sure I get it.
And, Muerte, Momo isn't the only one who enjoys it when the idiots don't listen to our advice. :wink:
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ahhh "splinterowned" is from a game called splinter cell I think.. Now one I would play though I think it's similar to a first person shooter or Halo. I think...
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Ahh... I did wonder about that. Thanks for the clarification.
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You are most welcome. However, I am not sure if it is a first person shooter... I tend to stay away from those types of games... Normally hidden object is what I play. For some reason they are highly addictive :p
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It's more a third person/stealth shooter to be honest.
Never really played it that much, but it's well known in the gaming scene.
Though i've taken a step back from that also :o Golden oldies aaaaah.
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Does "Super Mario Brothers" count as a golden oldie?? *<:) All I have are Super Nintendo and Sega. I had a Play Station, and played Medal of Honor quite a lot.... Gods I miss Head Shots :roll: