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The Darker Side => Demons, Demonology and The Devil => Topic started by: AChunter95 on July 02, 2010, 06:50:54 AM
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me and my colleague wish to take up demon hunting and would much appreciate any advise before we go to our deaths blindly
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well the first question I have is what do you know about demons? Two: Have you any experience with demons? Three: Why do you want to hunt demons?
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1st of all about demons i need to know what substances repel them if its posssible to destroy them with a physical weapon and i have had only one experience with a demon or entity that i took to be a demon and i want to hunt them because i feel an obligation to make it so the world can be rid of malevolent beings and will be able to sleep a little safer
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any input would be appreciated
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Have a look at the thread called 'open challenge'.
You can find it here in the demons and demonology section.
Try the challenge and you will see how fit you are for this calling.
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i lasted about 20 minutes in
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is that good for a first time
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Well how do you think you would do if you met a demon with your current abilities?
Ever heard the term 'cannon fodder'?
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you guys are so supportive (sarcasm intended)
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Can i kill a demon through a show of physical force of some kind?
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You do realize that you can't really 'hunt' demons, or even try to 'destroy' them. That is video game and RPG realm for that kind of hunting. Demons are much more dangerous than you think. The only repellant you really would have depends on what you believe.
So first step, is like Ladygriffin already said and STUDY!!!!
But, yeah for real if you do not have a stable mind or spirit than you are not going to get anywhere, so I would try to listen to oldbill a lil more.
Secondly, Hunting demons is not a game. You really shouldn't go out and hunt them because it is much eaiser to find them hunting us.
Thirdly, demons are not as common as mental disorders and superstition, so you have to beware of the people and places you come in contact with.
Lastly, your reasoning for huntint demons is not sound. What I mean is not having any knowledge about the creature you are dealing with and wanting to hunt it is just a bad idea because it could hurt you in many ways and not just on a physical level but a mental and spiritual level. If it does that your typical psychologist is just going to think that you are crazy. And you think that hunting demons to make the world a better place is the answer to all problems but the main problems lie within humans, not with the demons. Humans have free will and do a lot more hideous acts.
Not meaning to bash you or anything but I just don't take people seroiusly who say one day out of the blue "oh, mate lets go hunt demons to help save the world." When we should be worrying about what humans are doing to each other and how they are damaging the planet.... Yes demons help influence people to do bad things sometimes, but it is mainly humans wanting to do it now-a-days and not demons. They just sit back and relax, watching the show of human ignorance and the human race dismantaling morals so that the elites can benefit off of human suffering, while the rest of the world allows them to do this because of popularity, money, or power. Hell of a good movie aye? Well that is what is primarily going on.
And no you cannot kill an actual demon because they are spirits.... This is not the movie "Constantine".
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i understand your trouble in taking me seriously and respect that i am fully prepared to study demons and my mind is set i also acknowledge that humans create our own problems but ive tried helping humans and everytime i fix one problem 3 more arise its almost counter productive i will try doing this and if it takes like Ladygriffin said 15 years then i should have plenty of time to perfect blanking my mind as suggested by oldbill
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me and my colleague wish to take up demon hunting and would much appreciate any advise before we go to our deaths blindly
Since you put it like that remember this quote "Be careful what you wish for"
OB quote Well how do you think you would do if you met a demon with your current abilities?
Ever heard the term 'cannon fodder'?
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Where I live, we call it BAIT
Also we do not advocate hunting and killing things, do you know how many new members we get posting this same question, over and over....too many
My advise , stay at home and watch "Supernatural" and / or play a video game
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here's the ugly truth, sonny:
demon hunting is not glamourous. it's a calling that even i sometimes wish i didn't have. not only are you at risk, but everyone you care about is a potential weapon to be used against you. every encounter injures you in some way. ever had a cracked chakra? i assure you it isn't pleasant.
once you start, you get a nice invisible target painted on your back and they start hunting YOU. it shifts from a righteous quest to a fight for survival and sanity. anything that will hurt you, they will try.
my advice: if you need to be told how to start, you don't need to be doing it at all.
save yourself.
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I have a feeling that you were inspired from some media source to want to do this right?
Well if you do not know how to hunt demons then don't. There are those who do this and they are a separate group. They are taut how to do this and most of them are more chosen. They do their job because they have too (and they have too because no one else is or can).
The point is that you are not them and you are not likely to become one of them. It is a horrible burden they deal with, but is a great service.
So to be blunt: You will die, you will not win, you are not capable. If you really want to do this then learn how to defend before you start attacking. I would study up on demonology and many forms of magick as well. Study of on psionics, meditation, chackras, energy working, aura manipulation, mental exercises, physical training and others. Then you are to do these things everyday. You will constantly train harder and become stronger. But you will be exhausted beyond the ability to fight. Then after about 15 years of this you are ready to kill a weak demon. Now I do not think you have the dedication to do this every second of everyday. To give up tasty foods so that your body performs better. To give up friends and family so you have no distractions from your duty. To give up television, electronics, video games and women. So that you can serve your calling to hunt demons. After 15 years with none of these things then you can go at it. Enjoy it because this is hell, to do this for 15 years straight is hell. And where do demons live?
Now the chosen are better at this so they don't take as long. But that does not mean they don't do these things. You don't want to hunt demons it is not easy. As soon as you kill one many more will come after you. You can never drop your guard. I think this is a lot of hell to confront demons. (yes that was a joke)
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Lets face it, demon hunting IS glamourous. It is sexy.
We can be honest here cant we? What else is sexier than this?
They make films and write books about this dont they?
We get to arm ourselves with all sorts of occult and psychic stuff, esoteric knowledge gleaned from the latest grimoires bought on amazon or psi blog site, pseudo scientific technology, and sometimes weapons. We mix all this with religion and primal emotions, then believe we are doing the work of warriors of light.
This is glamour, i struggle to think of anything more theatrical. Martial arts heros and special forces operatives are so passe'. The best of us now become demon hunters instead.
Whats more we open our psychology to interpret every concievable change in emotion or sensation as potentially having supernatural origins. These we try to match these to ongoing stories of angels demons and esoteric malevolence.
It is entertainment in the highest format, especially when you think that this is performed in secret groups.
Who on earth would want to play football when you compare it to this?
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i understand what you are saying and i understand your concerns and i agree that it is glamorous but i am dead set on doing this i am fully aware of the risks i take in pursuing this
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Alright you have heard the warnings, You understand the risks, and you are still committed. I have doubt that any media influenced person would go this far based solely on media. I will not stop you now, so therefore I will support you.
I'll tell you where I think you should start. Study a lot of demonology from different sources. Only use Wikipedia if another source is saying the same thing. Also understand the information is never complete and always be prepared for more.
You know the phrase "that is the oldest trick in the book" You will want to get that book and learn these tricks. Expect any and all types of deception.
You will spend most of your early training in defense techniques and pursuing knowledge. Meditate on what you learned as well. Now demon hunting is not something I am aware of being done inside a human body. Most people who do this meditate and get out of their body to do this. (It makes it easier this way on many levels) You will want to learn how to leave your body and come back. That alone takes practice.
I would also study martial arts and basic stances. Build some muscle memory for reflexes against certain movements. It will make dodging more likely.
You are to spend six months in intense study on these topics. Then I will give you your next step to go out and do it.
The most important is defense. Learn that first. If you want Personal Message me and I can give you some books to start with.
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Sorry for interfering your conversation!i am new to this site but!my experience in hunting is extremely high!I am a Shaman Eagle warrior!It's very dangerous!!!i would say extremely!imagine out of nowhere a guy spoke to my girlfriend and talked about that he is a demon and immediately i started tracking him!he found that my girlfriend has a dark angel spirit inside her and some power one time he said that he will kill her cause she chose that good side!I stopped the contact between them cause he wanted to take her to his side but he failed!i want my revenge cause what he did to me was inhuman i can"t tell you.........My point is that i need some info on a demon named Belial or Beliath.....please if you can help me cause i am full of nerves and i am anxious to protect my girl cause we are together long time,i love her and i want she to be safe!i want my revenge!please if you have some info on that demon type it or send it to my mail jakoumikal@hotmail.com !
Thx...
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kadesh you have no right to insult my intelligence and i am fully aware of the threat that these demons pose and at the moment i wouldnt have a"snowballs chance in hell" i only seek to learn and you speak of the balance god tried to make if you havent noticed the world isnt balanced anymore if you go into any city sinners of all kinds are rampant look at gluttony one of the deadly sins and so many people now are gluttons i try not to disturb the balance but to restore it if you want to help then help if not keep your negativity to yourself i dont mean to sound angry i know your trying to help but ive decided i will do this
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as much as you would like to believe i lack intelligence you are sadly mistaken and if i do indeed as you presume lose my life then i will die a martyr and you will be right but i will not quit
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I like these kind of arguments. I am now including myself (I am jumping straight into the rumble pit).
Alright you both want to know who is right and wrong? You are both wrong. That is usually how these things go one person is correct in one sense and one is correct in another.
Now I never said I believed in this potential demon hunter only that I would support him. I choose to do so because he is so hell bent on this I think I can extend his life span by at least five minutes.
I know Kadesh was a little harsh but we get a lot of people on here that say such things. They want to be monsters, inhuman, get superpowers, be demon hunters, etc. It does get old after a while. So please forgive his manner of persuasion. (yes he could be nicer but you also need to see it from his point of view)
Now to be blunt on my part: Imagine that Kadesh was a demon you are fighting, in person, one on one. What you have written and what he has written is what you two just conversed. What emotions did you feel? (if you felt any that is enough for him to kill you) Imagine how many times he could of killed you.
He has a point here: YOU PROBABLY WILL DIE. Then you die with your soul being near the demon. He can then do worse things (bestiality, torture, both, unreachable cup cake table, etc.)
I only support you to hope you don't die. But I take no responsibility for your soul or your well being.
This site is here to help you. Right now we are trying to make sure you will not die. (if you haven't noticed this is also a test and you are failing)
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You posted this thread for advice. Listen to the damn advice instead of arguing and inviting demons into your home.
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i understand what you all are saying. and kadesh, a martyr is somebody who suffers persecution and death for the people, a country or an organization, or refusing to renounce a belief, usually religious, political or rights.
and matthew i understand what you are saying... i do not claim to be able to pass this test of yours yet i must as said by so many study and get stronger if i want to do this.
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I'm going to go ahead and say this because as much as I love the idea of hunting down the malevolent, there are things that shouldn't be tampered with. Demons aren't just things that go about pissing people off, there's more to them than that. While I'm sure this has already been said and I already know you "know" the risks, I would highly advise against this course of action. Leave this fight to the Angelic. Please, the last thing that you would want is to be the play thing of something seriously powerful. On another note, I hope you know that combat isn't merely about holy water and blessed items. It is more along the lines of the hardest mental battle one can percieve, something that only the most dedicated and disciplined can manage to survive. While I'll be optimistic and hope that you can attain this level of discipline, I can only assume that you haven't reached that point. I would highly recommend that you devote yourself to a style of intense discipline and mental excerise. On another note I also have to refute your statement about martyrdom, there is no such thing as being a martyr when it comes to combatting anything malevolent. Unless some Demonic incursion was going on RIGHT NOW, unless every single soul on the planet was being afflicted, and unless we had gotten to the point of calling people martyrs.......then you shouldn't call or compare yourself to one. I hope you take everything that's been said to heart.
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And, Matthew.... I'm not a he. :wink:
You have really stopped me in my tracks with that one... Well then I do apologize for my incorrectness. (I think I saw this mentioned on an earlier topic too, I should know better)
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Well from all the emotions I just had from that sentence, I can say Kadesh just killed me. (Assuming Kadesh is a demon, a FEMALE demon)
For just one second I felt shock (that gave me temporary paralysis and that is enough for a demon to stab me)
Then in the same second there was a hint of lust (seduction, or just stab)
I was also amused (stab)
In one unguarded second a demon could of stabbed me. To do this you have to give up your humanity. No emotions, no feelings, no love, no hate, no desires, no fears. Just the will to do harm and exterminate a race. (hmm that sounds kinda familiar)
It is a curse to hunt demons, it is not fun, you will not enjoy it. You will throw away all your humanity and then what do you have left to stop you from becoming the thing you hunt?
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as much as you would like to believe i lack intelligence you are sadly mistaken and if i do indeed as you presume lose my life then i will die a martyr and you will be right but i will not quit
How will you die a Martyr if no one knows you were fighting in the first place. You see when you hunt things no one believes in, then no one is going to martyr you for it when you die. The majority of those who research/hunt Demons do it without advertising to the world that they are doing so. One reason is that the more you advertise to you intended target your intentions, the more chance they have of defending themselves from your intent. Another is that it is difficult to convince others of your belief/intent.
Sorry Ladies and Gentlemen for taking so long in my responce to this thread, but as you all know my job at times takes me away from civilization for days at a time.
AC, you said earlier "Thanks for the support (sarcasm intended). You want others to support a suicide mission? If that is the case then you are all that Kadesh has claimed you to be and more.
You are willing to die for your cause you say, you want to be a martyr for your cause you say, you have grandiose ideas about your holy crusade. If this is also the case then might I suggest a slightly less painfull way of achieving your goal and just go join al qaeda. Let's face it, as a Demon hunter no one will care if you live or die (that after all is an inescapable truth) because no one will know that you are doing it, muchless when you die from it. As a human bomb at least there will be someone left to identify that it was you who did it and why.
You also want information on how to achieve your "Dream". I will tells you this here and now. I have committed a rather large portion of the last 20 years to the Occult, and I have by no means even begun to see the end of the road. Don't get me wrong, I know alot, but I by no means know it all, so for you to just show up and expect to WOW the world. Well, you have a better chance or killing a bear with a sharp pointy stick than you do of hunting Demons.
I know you have said you will commit yourself to learning but I have a better suggestion. And on this I am serious. You want to clean up the world? You want to save people and be recognized? Go to your local police academy and sign up. By doing this you will find a more fruitful and rewarding life.
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i dont care about recognition or a fruitful and rewarding life and i dont expect to "WOW the world" but i wont back down from this.
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I would go along with another 'demon hunter' and see what the real show is like. Technically there are no such things as 'demon hunters' because these are not physical entities and you cannot kill or destroy them. Only banish them. So try looking up people who banish these things and see if they will let you go with on their next adventure, because that will give you a piece of reality. Once you actually 'see' a demon (notice I put it in quotes) you might be turned off. It's not like the SyFy show "Ghost Hunters" where you can just go to haunted places and find them. Demons don't follow rules like other entities do. So good luck! But I do not assure that you will succeed. Be careful and make wise decisions.
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thanks for the idea rave ill make sure to accompany one of the people who do that
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alternative ghost hunting ahaha just try that (still study young boy) and when you have finished getting rid of ghosts and know that you're ready but unfortunately for you demons will come after you if they think your a threat and they will mess you over but i heard Salem is a good place for the paranormal stuff because of witch burnings and stuff like that so just wonder if you die when messing with a demon it can bind to your soul (like possession) and you will be his man slave for the rest of eternity gotta love that :P
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seriously, dude. don't do it. i do it because i was tossed into it like a little kid in the deep end with no floaties and i somehow knew how to swim.
it's not worth the thrill. i've had more taken from me than i care to share. i've experienced more pain inside and out than i want to remember.
i only do it because once you defeat one, they keep sending them after you and your loved ones until you're destroyed.
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i dont care what you say kadesh it doesnt phase me i know what i have to do and i'll do it
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i dont care what you say kadesh it doesnt phase me i know what i have to do and i'll do it
Stop being a damn kid and saying "I dont care, I'll do it my way.." etc. Listen to the damn advice that everyone's giving you.
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i dont care what you say kadesh it doesnt phase me i know what i have to do and i'll do it
Stop being a damn kid and saying "I dont care, I'll do it my way.." etc. Listen to the damn advice that everyone's giving you.
exactly ill listen to advice but i wont be phased by the insults
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then tell me of your experiences and i will listen but insults have no use in this conversation
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ill read them but i would prefer if you would stop calling little boy
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hey guys just saying I'm back kinda i was away in the forest with nothing and had to survive for a 5 nights and 6 days (I'm a 14 year old brat) and MR I DONT CARE IM GONNA GO KICK SOME DEMON ASS just listen to her she sounds pretty knowledgeable for a dumb mind like you
i would for starters just learn to be a man old school style because I'm sure for your type you would be damned if you were suck in the middle of the dessert and i know FOR A FACT A DEMON is way worse than a desert
a demon will possess you then will make you mentally ill (thats if your not already i mean your seeing demons) then you will be lucky and you wont kill yourself you will be in a white padded room for the rest of your life crying for mercy and to die (sounds nice aye) OR you will kill yourself if not the people you love around you then you and everyone you loved will be this demons MANSLAVE for the rest of eternity
....................god i wish there was such thing as ghost busters cuz then ghost buster would take care of everything
carry on
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im sorry but u're an idiot to want to hunt demons, they'll destroy u in so many ways and show no mercy. just because u've had 1 or 2 experiences w/ 'em doesn't make u ready to fight 'em off. u don't know nothing 'bout 'em at all.
but if u're still considering to fight with 'em then at least study them. i mean i've had at least 13 or 14 years of experience with 'em but i'd never hunt 'em because i don't KNOW 'bout them. just please be careful..
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i was planning doing as lady griffin suggested and studying for 15 years at least.
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ah well great :) :)
XD sorry if i came off as rude or anything XD i just really hate it how people try to face something so serious and dangereous yet not knowing anything that they desire to face XD
hehe anyways good luck :)
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you know what they say knowing is half the battle
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no nothing more but is there a reason you hate me so?
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I don't think Kadesh hates you, just annoyed because you must realize that we have more experience with the paranormal and when people come here to ask "how do I hunt..." well you can't really "hunt" these spirits. Maybe Big Foot, yes. It's just because we get a lot of ghost hunters wannabees and we don't want people to get harmed because of inforamtion we give them.
I still recommend learning first then looking for ghosts and other spirits that are not as dangerous. Truthfully, I am not worried about you getting killed by the demons, I am more worried about them possessing you and you harming others, or because of your lack of knowledge you might get someone else hurt, and in return hurt yourself mentally and spiritually. It takes a strong mind, will, and spirit to be able to handle this field. Will you definately have and probably spirit but with a lack of knowledge it means your mind is not as strong as others. You see what I am saying?
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i understand and thank you rave you've been most helpful
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you guys are so supportive (sarcasm intended)
hey at least everyone is telling u what they're telling u so that u don't get hurt or die (yes demons can kill, its almost happened to my grams when she was a kid). it shows that people care or maybe annoyed that u want to risk your life or both but either way its the right thing to tell u whether u like it or not.
sorry not intending to come off as mean, just getting my point across.
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if you seek them, they will seek you.
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Alright AC, I am going to give you something to do, a little home work if you will.
I want YOU (no one else is to assist) to post here the name of the Knight of the Demons. I want all names (the most common and all derivatives there of). I want to know of all those would serve under this demon, what King he serves, where you got your information and anything else you happen to find in your research. Go AC and do not dissappoint me, I am after all giving you the chance here and now to give credence to your claims.
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Well, I'm sorry rave, but you're not quite 100% right. I hate stupidity and AC seems to be stupidity incarnate. He blithely goes on about hunting demons with no concern for those around him that he will be drawing into it as well. And, you're wrong about me caring if he gets himself killed. I don't care. I'm almost hoping it happens just so innocent people aren't hurt.
And as for myself.... I had a little visit the other night. Several lesser imps and a very nasty demon lurking in the background. I will not tolerate anything of that sort in my house and they now know it. I highly doubt I'll have anymore difficulties, but you see the Pandora's box that has been opened here, so I'd advise everyone else to keep their guard up.
well you hate something AC is doing or thinks not necessarily AC himself correct? That is what I am getting at, we can't really help when people don't know a lot about a topic or are misinformed and therefore create invalid beliefs not based on truths. So hating what he thinks or does doesn't help your inner being and is a waste of time. People can't help being misinformed but they can help being ignorant on purpose. Hate is a very strong emotion such as love.
Also AC I would do what Muerte says because it does help you a lot and it will help you gain research skills.
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Also it is one of the easier assignments I have yet to assign people. If he makes it to the end then I will send him out for more information, if not.........
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I do miss the old fella
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XD did moloch delete his monstrous account again ?? XD nice "beyond the grave" intro *<:)
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ah wait wow :-o i'd never thought HE'd ever get banned, guess what he did was serious
and thats what i meant to, i wasn't serious 'bout the intro, im not that much of a dumb teen XD
and are there any types of demons u'll specifically hunt ? (for AC )
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Confused_mystery I am little offended when you talk like that. I am confident you did not know Moloch because he was before your time. I only had a few months to acquaint myself with him. If you did know him then you would not of made that comment. (being banned again)
Well I have to say that message was indeed from him, especially the nice ending. I agree with it (especially the ending).
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I was unaware that he was actually banned, I had assumed from the incident he instead finally decided to walk away from what he assumed was a waste of his efforts. It is good to hear his singular view once again.
P.S. Confused Mystery dear you never met Uncle MoMo, and if HE were still around you would not be lamenting his absence. Trust me he never gave off the warm fuzzies and I doubt he would have ever given you or any of the newer members much in the way of encouraging advice. In fact I think LadyGriffin would have been the only person he would have shown any tolerance for.
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It makes me sad to hear that Moloch is one of my favorite people, he has been on here even before me :|
Oh AC I think it would be wise to talk to local ghost hunters in your area. Some areas, depending on activity, may have local demonologists that you could talk to as well. It is always nice to hear from a professionals perspective about the topic, encounters and research they have done. It might give you a new perspective on the demonic realm of activity. I do want to advise that demonic activity is not as common as you think. It might be a great deal of time before you ever see anyone possessed, let alone a real demon (which is probably a good thing).
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Confused_mystery I am little offended when you talk like that. I am confident you did not know Moloch because he was before your time. I only had a few months to acquaint myself with him. If you did know him then you would not of made that comment. (being banned again)
i didn't mean to offend anyone at all, im very sorry its just that there were some posts of his on there forum where he'd say hes back again, which wouldn't that mean he'd gotten another account only by 2 reasons, either being banned or that he deleted it which i don't know at all the reason for his leaving. i just assumed...sorry :(.
sorry...i'll shut my horrible self up now : *(
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It is good to know that I did not get what happened wrong in my head I HATE it when things bite me in the ass after all, it tends to undermine ones credibility after all.
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and i'm not looking for pity at all because i know i'll never get it especially since people hardly ever cut me some slack.
and i didn't know you'd know anything 'bout light since u're always getting puta moments kadesh.
and i didn't mean disrespect to moloch at all, he was a nice respectful person so again im sorry for the offense, didn't mean it.
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Dear I would suggest we let this one drop. Moloch was neither nice nor in a sense respected, I would say more feared than respected and he liked it that way. If he ever returns than you can formulate an opinion, but if you find Kadesh abrasive than you would certainly find Moloch to be more so. Kadesh is 100 grit abrasive where Moloch is more like a 40 grit. Let it lie CM, trust me, it will be better this way.
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Muerte is right of course... on a site full of Alpha males and other OCD uber-freak personalities, I am the ultimate. There's a reason why few dared to cross me, and it was because I could annihilate Devil and God themselves in an argument while they had home court advantage.
Don't worry though, I'm not offended. In fact, I loved hearing all of this from my old friends, and even those who probably trembled a little when they saw I'd replied to their posts.
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ok fine i'll let it go, i seriously don't see the point in wasting my breath on someone i don't even know then going to their level.i just don't take crap from anyone especially that insults me for no damn reason.
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Well, I didn't eat him - yet. Though I do have a bottle of this tasty BBQ sauce with his name on it...
ok fine i'll let it go, i seriously don't see the point in wasting my breath on someone i don't even know then going to their level.i just don't take crap from anyone especially that insults me for no damn reason.
Don't worry, CM. I never go after anyone who hasn't earned my ire, and only the very best make it to my level. So, if I ever tell you that you're as 'bad' as me, that's a compliment - a high compliment.
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Yes.... It obviously doesn't bother you at all. *<:)
Where is the confused little demon hunter? Is it too much to hope that he was eaten? :roll:
I sent him out to do research remember. His head probably locked up due to the ammount of information he was to obtain, and just think, the Knight of Hell is one of the easiest to research.
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Yes.... It obviously doesn't bother you at all. *<:)
yes it did BUT i don't feel like being cold hearted like u, just seems pointless to stoop to your level which is way too damn low for me.
or maybe AC finally realized it was a waste of time to hunt down demons XD.
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Well, there IS a high chance of him being eaten, considering there is a demon in his house...
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I doubt said demon wants to inflict indigestion upon itself by eating him.
No, more likely than not he's just lurking, waiting for an opportunity to come crashing back into this thread making outlandish claims about his prowess as a fledgling demon hunter. When he does, I'll be waiting.
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because i'm not being cold like you've been on here for some time and that was the last of it.,
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Hey...... Alpha males are you enjoying this little chitchat between Kadesh & CM?
Peace people!
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im not dead and eaten yet but im no demon hunter either.
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im not dead and eaten yet but im no demon hunter either.
but didn't u want to be a demon hunter ? :?
XD XD "chitchat" oh good thing this "chitchat" wasn't in person XD then i would've had too much fun using my fists and strength *<:) XD nice one SKGS XD *<:)
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i want to be but i am nowhere near the level needed to be a "demon hunter"
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Well there is a start, it is good to be honest with yourself. Never forget that, however that does not mean you have to be as honest with others.
Words are a powerful tool use them wisely. (this is the part where I disappear in a cloud of smoke)
Do what you will, do what you must, do not die.
If you think demons hate humans then demon hunters good ones or not are also not favorable. They get special treatment, I cannot type what I think they would do here.
Tá a fhios thyself
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demons eating people?!?! Souls maybe? but it's more cost effective to keep them alive, it just doesn't make sense to needlessly destroy a food source. Silly demons...
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Kadesh, CM, you may want to carry this to PMs before your posts start getting reported.
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Kadesh, CM, you may want to carry this to PMs before your posts start getting reported.
No reporting necessary as I am watching and I too was going to suggest the same thing.
C.M. I am going to have to give you a warning dear. The threat of physical violence, whether intentional or accidental, is not something we are to allow here. Please refrain from doing so in the future.
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Kadesh, CM, you may want to carry this to PMs before your posts start getting reported.
No reporting necessary as I am watching and I too was going to suggest the same thing.
C.M. I am going to have to give you a warning dear. The threat of physical violence, whether intentional or accidental, is not something we are to allow here. Please refrain from doing so in the future.
of course and thats why i've let it go. fighting in the future.... maybe :-D XD yes anyways i RARELY fight at all unless its something serious. lol and plus it wasn't a threat at all. but i'll keep the warning in mind so that next time i don't carried away again X)
demons eating people?!?! Souls maybe?
i don't think it would be ever possible for a demon to consume the flesh of a human XD
1. they don't have a physical body like an animal or human
2. unless they possessed a human XD but then that would be considered cannibalism
soooo thats a no *<:) i don't know 'bout souls though XD
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I thought demons were able to take any shape or form they wanted...
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Might I remind everyone that you're making at several awfully huge assumptions about the nature of demons?
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well at least the ones i've met XD and many on here claim that they don't have a physical body.
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Might I remind everyone that you're making at several awfully huge assumptions about the nature of demons?
We all know what assume makes out of "U" and "ME". (the answer is ass for those of you who never understood this saying... like me)
From what I have heard demons can attack in all ways.
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i want to be but i am nowhere near the level needed to be a "demon hunter"
Good to see you are still around, now where is the information I assigned you to find?
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Here is a brief list of assumptions made thus far.
-Demons are real.
-Demons can affect physical space.
-Demons need/can consume either energy or physical objects.
-Demons can be killed/slain/destroyed.
-Demons respond to the pathetic attempts/rituals meant to contain/destroy/banish them enacted by infinitely more pathetic mortals.
-Demons actually care about what anyone thinks about them.
This list is not all inclusive...
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Here is a brief list of assumptions made thus far.
-Demons are real.
-Demons can affect physical space.
-Demons need/can consume either energy or physical objects.
-Demons can be killed/slain/destroyed.
-Demons respond to the pathetic attempts/rituals meant to contain/destroy/banish them enacted by infinitely more
pathetic mortals.
-Demons actually care about what anyone thinks about them.
This list is not all inclusive...
well out of your list, what do U think is true ?
From what I have heard demons can attack in all ways.
well then i guess what i've heard is wrong and that i met a certain type of demons *<:)
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Confused mystery are you assuming that?
Out of that list I have to say all are true in some sense. I would say all are pretty literal but I need to clear up on the last one.
Demons do care what you think. Insulting them only gives them more reason to kill you. Complimenting them lets them use you, then probably kill you. They use what you think against you. As for their personal feelings they couldn't care less what you think.
Demons do respond to rituals if they need to have some fun. A group of teenagers make an easy target for torture.
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oh i'm not assuming anything, i was just asking moloch's opinion.
Demons do care what you think. Insulting them only gives them more reason to kill you. Complimenting them lets them use you, then probably kill you. They use what you think against you. As for their personal feelings they couldn't care less what you think.
Demons do respond to rituals if they need to have some fun. A group of teenagers make an easy target for torture.
no offense to u at all matthew but thats common sense, because demons love to torture and cause suffering, chaos, and all that jazz for their pleasure, it doesn't matter how it happens but as long as it happens then their good and happy. its their nature. and speaking of that, is it true that there are "good" demons ?
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So much potential here...
Read number one again, and this time leave your emotional drive to be the center of attention alone. Yes, you! Stop playing with it and put it down. It's nasty and you don't know who was playing with it before you.
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So much potential here...
Read number one again, and this time leave your emotional drive to be the center of attention alone. Yes, you! Stop playing with it and put it down. It's nasty and you don't know who was playing with it before you.
Actually it was I, and when I tired of it I left it to lie about so someone else might find it, then I would get the enjoyment of watching them fumble around with it for a bit before passing it along to another. In this manner I stay well entertained in the long years of my existence.
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i still think people give them too much credit...the whole lot of them!
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i still think people give them too much credit...the whole lot of them!
But would that not be the desired intent? The more credit the more power, the more power the more influence. And of course with increased influence we again provide them with more credit. It turns into a vicious cycle that only ones self conscious power is able to overcome. Too bad more people are not aware of this fact.
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i still think people give them too much credit...the whole lot of them!
But would that not be the desired intent? The more credit the more power, the more power the more influence. And of course with increased influence we again provide them with more credit. It turns into a vicious cycle that only ones self conscious power is able to overcome. Too bad more people are not aware of this fact.
it's like that and that's the way it is^^
it's a cycle that can only be broken by the ones getting credited by messing up. (that's the way I see it)
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So much potential here...
Read number one again, and this time leave your emotional drive to be the center of attention alone. Yes, you! Stop playing with it and put it down. It's nasty and you don't know who was playing with it before you.
XD there never was emotional drive :P X) and if there was then it would be picked up even quicker XD.
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So much potential here...
Read number one again, and this time leave your emotional drive to be the center of attention alone. Yes, you! Stop playing with it and put it down. It's nasty and you don't know who was playing with it before you.
XD there never was emotional drive :P X) and if there was then it would be picked up even quicker XD.
Read more deeply. Think more subtly.
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*Sigh* I see life must be experience in order to learn, Mo, try not to crack the shell too much. I do so hate picking up all the little pieces.
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You can only be so gentle when you have and are the sledgehammer.
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say what you will about my God but i like the simplicity of one spirit, one sound guidance policy and my only requirements are to celebrate life full of "faith, hope and love", representing his glory as a living temple...i no longer have to worry about what or who's creeping into my mind and whispering awful things in my dreams, it's My will and finally my life. *shrugs* this thread constantly reminds me of this. as long as people have more faith in spiritual parasites and less in their humanity, these questions and debate will continue on. that's why i like suoernatural, as long as long sam and dean keep their humanity and love for each other, they can save the world...not any angel or devil can stop them.
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there should be no need to be gentle, its no fun :-D
well its just that when i type/write people seem to pick up a lot of emotions and take it the wrong way when in that text i don't intend to leave emotions XD.
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You can only be so gentle when you have and are the sledgehammer.
Too true. But a sledge hammer is not always the best tool
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its so cool how they can do so much destruction and then the sight of it just makes people flinch and get scared *<:) :-D
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emotional control is pretty crucial when dealing with anything supernatural, having had possibly eons of experience manipulating our race, some even from our beginnings. do that many people that don't educate themselves on the importance of a stable, confident personality when going out of human range really think they can handle this stuff?
i'll leave the hunting to sam and dean, i have enough to do staying off their radar.
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hi ok well I just recently joined and I would like some help figuring some s**t out my freind saw some thing as a child and I would like some help on figuering out what the hell it is or could be also keep in mind that my friend was around the age of ten to thirteen well anyway heres the story.
it was around 2-4am he woke up from a nightmare and went down stairs to get a glass of water as he was pouring the water in the glass the lower half of the glass shatered befor the water could touch the bottom, this could be explained as something else but it still happened, anyway after he cleaned up he headed back up stairs and walked towards his room as he was entering the doorway he noticed a glowing or shining face like shape in his closet he said it wasnt shining like a lamp but it was more of a soft glow in any case he stared at it for ten to twenty minutes frozen in fear and finaly started to back off to his mothers room he glanced away for a second looked back and it was gone he headed down stairs and watched tv untill morning that was his first expeirience.
this is his second this time he was at his fathers house this time he is 13-14 in age he again woke up frome a nightmare and got a glass of water as he went to his room he saw a human shape with a beak roughly half a foot long outside his window it slamed its hand on it as if wanted to get inside but couldnt he ran down stairs and waited untill morning also both the face and the bird thing had black oval shapes were eyes should have been any help on this matter would be apreciated thank you
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hmm so your friend has only had these two experiences ? well to get more help, you need to provide way more info than that, because what u've given us doesn't really help much. hmm u should maybe ask muerte or matthew321 more about this, maybe they could help if u give more info, try to describe a little more about exactly what your friend saw at those times.
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how old is he now?...early teens are notorious for when "sprits" start contacting people? you want to hunt demons and can't even figure out what's knocking to come in? manimals have been around since we have and faded with the egyptians. however middle age western demonology has a frightful multidude of demons with animal features...to remind us, they're beasts and we're like God...with dominion over all. why bother hunting such insignifigance when all you need to not be bothered is knowledge, understanding and your own free will.
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I hunt demons if anybody cares.
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I hunt demons if anybody cares.
Scroll lower... the RPG section is down there.
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I hunt demons if anybody cares.
Not really. Met a lot, and the ones who are true don't go around declaring it to others. How do I know about them then? It comes out after many separate conversations gleaned over many separate subject.
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I wanted to hunt them, but I've found it it isn't anything like devil may cry and such, it's mostly boring work trying to find one, and hard work te expell them...
I went in another path, making sure I don't need to vanquish one xD
muerte is right, real hunters won't declare they are doing it ^^'
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Those who boast, cannot. Those who can, boast not.
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Very true, very true.
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let me tell you my story. Am i hunter yes do i wish to be one still no. When i was young and naive i wished to be cool and i thought that demon hunting would be a cool thing show off so i become a hunter. First thing you can not kill a demon jest send it home so don't try. Second never call a demon. third never never get others involved. I was young and i smithed a sword i called demons bane its a sword made out of silver soaked in holy water for 333 days and blessed by christian monks. i then embroider it with the lords pray. i thought i could kill then broke rule one. I then found a old summing circle from a book. i broke the second rule. i got my best friend to help i broke the third rule one i wish i never had. We smmend one and it took him i i was abel to banish it from his body but he was never the same he killed him self one month later on hallows eve. I thought i was done but im not. im not so much hunting demons as they are hunting me and i keep beating them but stronger and stronger ones keep coming.
My wrold is one of pain and hard ship yes do i take side jobs and help yes is it worth it some times. but i would give anything to never have become a hunter think of my story before you become one.
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seriously, dude. don't do it. i do it because i was tossed into it like a little kid in the deep end with no floaties and i somehow knew how to swim.
it's not worth the thrill. i've had more taken from me than i care to share. i've experienced more pain inside and out than i want to remember.
i only do it because once you defeat one, they keep sending them after you and your loved ones until you're destroyed.
i know your pain never become one unless your willing to give up your life for the job
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muerte is right, real hunters won't declare they are doing it ^^'
True i have only ever met three outher hunters in the past 12 years. I am a hunter though. I do not wish to meet any more no one should feel this pain
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I wanted to hunt them, but I've found it it isn't anything like devil may cry and such, it's mostly boring work trying to find one, and hard work te expell them...
To be honest, that was what got my cousin interested. :| He was too curious for his own good. If the person who started this thread (I cannot remember his name for now) is still attempting to do so, do not let your curiosity get the better of you. Use your wits and keep focused.
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Dragonkin, I'm sorry, but your story just seems too far ridiculous to believe.
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Dragonkin, I'm sorry, but your story just seems too far ridiculous to believe.
i agree, not because you claim to hunt demons, but your "forging" doesn't work, i'll explain why.
I was young and i smithed a sword i called demons bane its a sword made out of pure silver socked in holy water for 333 days and blessed by christian monks. i then embroider it with the lords pray
first off, pure silver is way to soft to actually make a useable blade, even for sterling silver jewelery they have to mix pure silver with a copper/silver blend to give it strength to actually, form.
it would make sense if you had more understanding of the forging process, one so young could not forge a useable sword, it took two full grown men who knew what they were doing to make mine...carbonized steel formed from a forklift tine.
secondly, soaking it, you don't soak forged metal, you quench it and in that context it would have made more sense if you quenched it in holy water in between the forging, blending and other techniques that i need another two semesters of forging before we even get into a simple knife.
and you don't "embroider" metal, you'd either; etch, chase, stamp or repousse.
in about a year i'll be able to tell you how to make a plausible, usable sword, but your sword making doesn't make sense, from an apprentice metalsmith's experience.
what christian monks?
the only ones who openly battle demons are the roman catholics, other christian exorcisms aren't as dramatic, look into scott peck m.d. and you'll see why, your story just doesn't make sense.
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I also have to agree with Jordyn, I do not find your story believable.
If I saw a picture of the sword I would at least consider the story's validity. Until I find the same picture on google.
Silver is not a strong metal, it isn't even effective against demons. It is a metal that can be blessed and hold that energy. But the metal itself is not powerful, the blessing is.
You didn't mention what kind of sword it was, if you have a forge and the ability to make your own swords then you should know what you are making.
That story is very short for all the details it is suspected of containing.
This is constructive criticism so now you must start constructing.
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Dragonkin, I'm sorry, but your story just seems too far ridiculous to believe.
first off, pure silver is way to soft to actually make a useable blade, even for sterling silver jewelery they have to mix pure silver with a copper/silver blend to give it strength to actually, form.
it would make sense if you had more understanding of the forging process, one so young could not forge a useable sword, it took two full grown men who knew what they were doing to make mine...carbonized steel formed from a forklift tine.
secondly, soaking it, you don't soak forged metal, you quench it and in that context it would have made more sense if you quenched it in holy water in between the forging, blending and other techniques that i need another two semesters of forging before we even get into a simple knife.
Yes i know it is normally it would make a unsubtle blade but what i used was silver fused with stainless steel i find it makes fine blade. And when it came to the soaking i lest it sit in the water changing the water and resmithing the metal ever 4 weeks chiping off the bad parts and adding in new steal when need be.. Also you act as if i was some beginner when i forged the blade. I have been learning to forge seance i was 8 my father made side money at ren fairs and commissions for making blades. When i was young he started to teach me. i made my first short sword at 11 and my first long sword at 13, and when i say embroidering i am sorry if i used the wrong term and yes they were Catholic.
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let me tell you my story. Am i hunter yes do i wish to be one still no. When i was young and naive i wished to be cool and i thought that demon hunting would be a cool thing show off so i become a hunter. First thing you can not kill a demon jest send it home so don't try. Second never call a demon. third never never get others involved. I was young and i smithed a sword i called demons bane its a sword made out of pure silver socked in holy water for 333 days and blessed by christian monks. i then embroider it with the lords pray. i thought i could kill then broke rule one. I then found a old summing circle from a book. i broke the second rule. i got my best friend to help i broke the third rule one i wish i never had. We summend one and it took him i i was abel to banish it from his body but he was never the same he killed him self one month later on hallows eve. I thought i was done but im not. im not so much hunting demons as they are hunting me and i keep beating them but stronger and stronger ones keep coming.
My wrold is one of pain and hard ship yes do i take side jobs and help yes is it worth it some times. but i would give anything to never have become a hunter think of my story before you become one.
Stainless Steel and silver does not make pure silver.
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Dragonkin, I'm sorry, but your story just seems too far ridiculous to believe.
It is funny i have heard this many times. Yet i have a question how should my "story" sound. I jest wounder because have you ever summoned a real demon or are you jest hiding behind a screen.
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I know this but tell me how was i to make a blade out of pure silver knowing that it was impossible and would not up in a battle. I figured have silver would have to be good enough.
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I also have to agree with Jordyn, I do not find your story believable.
If I saw a picture of the sword I would at least consider the story's validity. Until I find the same picture on google.
Silver is not a strong metal, it isn't even effective against demons. It is a metal that can be blessed and hold that energy. But the metal itself is not powerful, the blessing is.
You didn't mention what kind of sword it was, if you have a forge and the ability to make your own swords then you should know what you are making.
Two things first i was young and did not know silver wasn't effective against demons comic books and tv told me other wise. and two if you wish to see the sword go to the roman catholic diocese of Portland Maine i dug a hole an buried it there.
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Now I am curious, why bury the sword? I would of kept it, regardless of what it is made of, or what it can do. I would treasure any sword I had made (but then again I don't have access to a forge)
Are you trying to leave the past behind you? Why is the sword's presence undesirable?
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In regards to dragonkin877's story...
I can't find it very believable either. I mean, for starters, how old are you (no answer required)? Simple spelling mistakes such as 'just' (not jest) say to me you're either a horrible speller in your late 20s at the oldest, or a kid masquerading as an 'adult'. Second, they brought up the silver multiple times, and you have changed your stories to 'dodge' each comment. Know your facts before you start to speak. Third--well, this can't be justified, but from what I feel, you're a kid in search of a thrill or a fantasy life.
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I can not believe it because of the spelling and grammar errors, or either quit using text lingo, it is very annoying
You can forge swords and fight demons, but you can not put your words together correctly...yeah right ,we are really going to believe your story...think not
And a friendly reminder, use the edit button instead of double and triple posting
Reading the forum rules will help
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In regards to dragonkin877's story...
I can't find it very believable either. I mean, for starters, how old are you (no answer required)? Simple spelling mistakes such as 'just' (not jest) say to me you're either a horrible speller in your late 20s at the oldest, or a kid masquerading as an 'adult'. Second, they brought up the silver multiple times, and you have changed your stories to 'dodge' each comment. Know your facts before you start to speak. Third--well, this can't be justified, but from what I feel, you're a kid in search of a thrill or a fantasy life.
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ok one im 38 and two i have graphic dyslexia.
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Now I am curious, why bury the sword? I would of kept it, regardless of what it is made of, or what it can do. I would treasure any sword I had made (but then again I don't have access to a forge)
Are you trying to leave the past behind you? Why is the sword's presence undesirable?
It was a bad memory of what i had done and i wished to forget my past but as i know now your past can come back with a vengeance
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how did you mix the metals, what technique did you use to imprint the prayer aqnd what monks? franciscan, dominican...i think those are the only two left. please use all the technical terms you need, i know them. if it's a technique you know i'd like to understand it, but i'll ask janet and some of my other instructors, they're part of the art community here and know all the big names in metalsmithing.
so i still don't buy it, as for demons, been there, done that and they now avoid me...no sword needed, just my will.
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Dragonkin, I'm sorry, but your story just seems too far ridiculous to believe.
It is funny i have heard this many times. Yet i have a question how should my "story" sound. I jest wounder because have you ever summoned a real demon or are you jest hiding behind a screen.
Okay, first of all, your story should sound less Hollywood, and more actuallity. Second, you don't know me, you don't know my experiences, don't pretend to know me.
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yes and you don't know me.
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How silly. What would you even need a sword for anyway? demons exist on a different dimensional plane to us anyway, from our point of view, they are pretty much thought energy. As far as the extent to which we can interact with them anyway. You can't stab them. :roll:
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How silly. What would you even need a sword for anyway? demons exist on a different dimensional plane to us anyway, from our point of view, they are pretty much thought energy. As far as the extent to which we can interact with them anyway. You can't stab them. :roll:
Here's hoping there was no attempt to stab them while they were possessing someone... though a sword or a blade of any kind can be used to help channel energy (I don't suggest it cause it may end up hurting someone alive).
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yes and you don't know me.
Sounding by what you're like, I wouldn't bother to get to know you. Your story is completely unbelievable in my opinion and I will continue to choose to think so.
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Here's hoping there was no attempt to stab them while they were possessing someone... though a sword or a blade of any kind can be used to help channel energy (I don't suggest it cause it may end up hurting someone alive).
agreed.
do you think it really needs to be a blade though? cos personally i think any metal object would do, and is less likely to get turned against you if it isnt sharp and pointy. i dont think you really NEED anything to channel with anyway. depends on if you believe you need it or not. Isn't that what it all comes down to really?
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do you think it really needs to be a blade though? cos personally i think any metal object would do, and is less likely to get turned against you if it isnt sharp and pointy. i dont think you really NEED anything to channel with anyway. depends on if you believe you need it or not. Isn't that what it all comes down to really?
In Wiccan they use wands. But we're getting off topic. PM me about it if you wish to continue this or make a new thread in the appropriate section.
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How silly. What would you even need a sword for anyway? demons exist on a different dimensional plane to us anyway, from our point of view, they are pretty much thought energy. As far as the extent to which we can interact with them anyway. You can't stab them. :roll:
i was a young i believed comic books and TV.
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According to some folklore you can corporealise them and then you probably could stab them. Wouldnt do anything though.
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let me tell you my story. Am i hunter yes do i wish to be one still no. When i was young and naive i wished to be cool and i thought that demon hunting would be a cool thing show off so i become a hunter. First thing you can not kill a demon jest send it home so don't try. Second never call a demon. third never never get others involved. I was young and i smithed a sword i called demons bane its a sword made out of pure silver socked in holy water for 333 days and blessed by christian monks. i then embroider it with the lords pray. i thought i could kill then broke rule one. I then found a old summing circle from a book. i broke the second rule. i got my best friend to help i broke the third rule one i wish i never had. We summend one and it took him i i was abel to banish it from his body but he was never the same he killed him self one month later on hallows eve. I thought i was done but im not. im not so much hunting demons as they are hunting me and i keep beating them but stronger and stronger ones keep coming.
My wrold is one of pain and hard ship yes do i take side jobs and help yes is it worth it some times. but i would give anything to never have become a hunter think of my story before you become one.
Stainless Steel and silver does not make pure silver.
it makes nickel silver, an awful to forge, impossible to aneal, holds heat poorly and hammers out like, leather...like my master forger said..."why would anyone ruin perfectly good silver like that?"
there are much better metals one can forge and fold, being a lifetime metalsmith you should be able to easily afford something like damascus steel, now that's some amazing stuff, no silver required. a copper/silver sword would probably work, and copper seems to have more warding ability than silver, it might not be as strong, but as someone pointed out, they're energy forms and a sword would just be no morethan instrument of focus and intent.
Fine, fire forged swords call for way too much money to have been so, thoughtless with it especially if it was forged with nickel.
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to be honest i'm not sure why we are even indulging this guy. The transparency of the lies is self condemning. :)zzz
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In regards to dragonkin877's story...
I can't find it very believable either. I mean, for starters, how old are you (no answer required)? Simple spelling mistakes such as 'just' (not jest) say to me you're either a horrible speller in your late 20s at the oldest, or a kid masquerading as an 'adult'. Second, they brought up the silver multiple times, and you have changed your stories to 'dodge' each comment. Know your facts before you start to speak. Third--well, this can't be justified, but from what I feel, you're a kid in search of a thrill or a fantasy life.
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ok one im 38 and two i have graphic dyslexia.
I am unable to make it to check out my areas of responsibility and this is what I find. It's like an Idiot went and crapped all over my yard.
Dragonkin this is my yard and you will listen to ME! From here on out you WILL use the spell check option. You WILL think about what you are saying before you say it, and you WILL adhere to all of the forums rules. I do not care what your learning disability is, that is not my problem. You like everyone else can use spell check and the computer will automatically tell you what you did wrong. If you are having a problem reading/understanding rules then you should probably refrain from even posting! You are 38 and I am 33, I guess age doesn't cause one to become more intelligent. I am the Moderator here and I do not put up with whiny excuses from what are supposed to be mature adults. Since you are over 30 ACT LIKE IT! Consider this your first and only warning from me, no one ever gets another.
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*applauds*
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wow kudos muerte :) that reminds me of that one were that was insulting vamp.s as a majority
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In regards to dragonkin877's story...
I can't find it very believable either. I mean, for starters, how old are you (no answer required)? Simple spelling mistakes such as 'just' (not jest) say to me you're either a horrible speller in your late 20s at the oldest, or a kid masquerading as an 'adult'. Second, they brought up the silver multiple times, and you have changed your stories to 'dodge' each comment. Know your facts before you start to speak. Third--well, this can't be justified, but from what I feel, you're a kid in search of a thrill or a fantasy life.
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ok one im 38 and two i have graphic dyslexia.
I am unable to make it to check out my areas of responsibility and this is what I find. It's like an Idiot went and crapped all over my yard.
Dragonkin this is my yard and you will listen to ME! From here on out you WILL use the spell check option. You WILL think about what you are saying before you say it, and you WILL adhere to all of the forums rules. I do not care what your learning disability is, that is not my problem. You like everyone else can use spell check and the computer will automatically tell you what you did wrong. If you are having a problem reading/understanding rules then you should probably refrain from even posting! You are 38 and I am 33, I guess age doesn't cause one to become more intelligent. I am the Moderator here and I do not put up with whiny excuses from what are supposed to be mature adults. Since you are over 30 ACT LIKE IT! Consider this your first and only warning from me, no one ever gets another.
You got off easy kid. Ah, if only I could have chewed on your mind for a while...
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lol no because then you would've traumatized the guy for life *<:)
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I think it would have been funny, I'd probably be somewhere watching with a bowl of popcorn. I need to get popcorn and possibly some Doritos to go as a side dish for Moloch. *<:)
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lol count me in on that except could we have the nighttime flavored dorritos ? the ones that actually do taste like tacos ?? * mouth watering XD
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Sure we'll have a plethora of doritos, I pick the wasabi flavored ones!
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lol wasabi flavored ?? well i call dibs on the cheese and nighttime flavor !! X)
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Dragonkin, I'm sorry, but your story just seems too far ridiculous to believe.
It is funny i have heard this many times. Yet i have a question how should my "story" sound. I jest wounder because have you ever summoned a real demon or are you jest hiding behind a screen.
here's how the forging story should sound, it's the leo in me...
after searching several metal-shops she finally settled on some pure silver and half as much copper casting material. copper was a a natural choice despite it's difficulties melding with other metals any inconsistency could easily be hammered and tempered out, but it's cooled strength, afford-ability and many cultural associations for warding off harm made the extra effort worth it. having settled on the casting material she returned to her tiny forge and started heating up her equipment. (i'm a metalsmith, not a blade smith.)
she put the metals in the crucible and starting her torch began to melt it together, waiting for that silvery iridescence of creation that subtly spoke of a successful union. Using her large tongs she removed the now molten metal, all the while the intent of banishment was on her mind.
She dumped the large crucible of metal in the preshaped fire brick mold and waited for the cherry red plug to glow away into a dull, pinkish patina, , it would be a pretty blade. She removed her casting mask, forging apron and returned to turn off her torch leaving to contact an old friend of the family pastor, who was fortunately an understanding and happily catholic free academic who's experienced them first hand.
the catholics have way more red tape before doing anything with the devil.
the making of the sword would have little to do without intent, there are some wonderful spiritual defenses out there, but very few are weapons, nava ratna are pendants that can take a year to make using hindu astrology existing on auspicious days and based in a demons sacrifice for humanity, demanded by the gods...if they go through that for a pendant to please the devis and divas that guide their daily lives, what do you think an item needed to destroy their adversaries would require?
it's really a fascinating process, i'm working out one for myself, with a Judaic spin.
about the topic in general...
fighting demons is easy, (if you don't get all bravado and call them out) all you need is your will and intelligence, anything else used is just a fabrication to focus energy that's already innate to our nature through our connection to the Divine or evoking/invoking It.
what do you put your faith in and how strong is that faith?
that test of humanity is older than the written word; that should be rule number one before choosing to challenge the spirit world; know thyself.
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As some here already know, I put my faith in myself. Even if there were a god for me to pray to; why would they grant the wish of an acolyte who can't even believe in their own innate capacities and abilities?
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Never a wiser word spoken. I really find it hard to square the image of a deity that would create a lifeform, bestow it with innate powers and then not have a problem with running to the aid of said lifeform whenever they have a spiritual crisis to deal with. I often wonder if priests and the like aren't just using their own abilities and telling themselves it is God doing it. I think everyone carry as much "God" around in themselves as they could ever need. Not saying I don't believe their is a higher power, I just think it's a bit rude to ask it to do your dirty work for you.
Must stop going off topic like this, sorry.. :focus:
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lol cool nice story X) hmm so the extra stuff to fight them aren't needed ?
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lol cool nice story X) hmm so the extra stuff to fight them aren't needed ?
Depends on the person.
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Never a wiser word spoken. I really find it hard to square the image of a deity that would create a lifeform, bestow it with innate powers and then not have a problem with running to the aid of said lifeform whenever they have a spiritual crisis to deal with. I often wonder if priests and the like aren't just using their own abilities and telling themselves it is God doing it. I think everyone carry as much "God" around in themselves as they could ever need. Not saying I don't believe their is a higher power, I just think it's a bit rude to ask it to do your dirty work for you.
Must stop going off topic like this, sorry.. :focus:
Sorry, couldn't let it go--- The people in Africa who were raised from death didn't do it by themselves, nor the healings of many people through out time. You can believe they are fiction if you want but I know several that aren't -been there , done that...
but :focus:
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Never a wiser word spoken. I really find it hard to square the image of a deity that would create a lifeform, bestow it with innate powers and then not have a problem with running to the aid of said lifeform whenever they have a spiritual crisis to deal with. I often wonder if priests and the like aren't just using their own abilities and telling themselves it is God doing it. I think everyone carry as much "God" around in themselves as they could ever need. Not saying I don't believe their is a higher power, I just think it's a bit rude to ask it to do your dirty work for you.
Must stop going off topic like this, sorry.. :focus:
muerte's statement would apply to this statement to...he doesn't do my dirty work, he helps clarify things, gives me a sense of peace and with the amount of skills, talents and fortunate meetings i have it's easier to think i'm pleasing my God rather than i'm just luckier than most people with skills to burn.
some have always had intricate and personal dealing with their gods; prophets, sages, spiritualists, the occasioanl soothsayer and other sorts, most seem to need priests, books or other human trappings to bring them closer. i think where the biggest misconception comes from is people expect some instant miracle never considering the kindly lady that was there to offer comforting support or wisdom in a tight situation, the teary eyed godsmacked moment when it all becomes clear, the fortunate find of a twenty on the ground when you really need the money or the missed friend calling because they just thought of you, the examples can go on and on...
withcraft calls on forces to do your dirty work, with Abraham's god it's more of a talk, ask and wait for him to act and decide full of faith that he'll work through your own free will.
gods have always intervened in humanity's forming and there have always been people who experience it first hand, i'd never ask him to do something one would use witchcraft for like a mate, curse or other nonesense but if you have your heart connected to him then you will experience Him and he will speak and guide you. (uses him as a personal association) however i would like to ask why he seems to tend to other people more than others?
*shrugs*
that's what led me to this path, wondering why some seem to be so intimate with the divine they feel him breathing on their neck, while others are so far removed it's detrimental to their harmony with the universe. Abraham's god was the one who offered a little understanding why i'm so interesting to the divine, the rest just preyed upon it.
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which would mean their strengths or of their knowledge of what their dealing with ?
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I will make this even more clear from what I am getting. For this task I shall employ an example: A man goes out hunting and prays to find a deer, he find said deer. The man then aims his weapon and prays for a clean kill. The man gets the clean kill and then cooks the meat. He then prays once more, thanking his diety for the food.
Now that sounds pretty normal but if you sit there and think about it, you will find some errors. (or let me do the thinking)
Anyway the man prayed for the deer, but used his skills to go to where a deer might be. He then used his markmanship to get a clean kill. He prayed for these things that he acquired himself. He then thanks his diety for the food. Even if god sent him the deer he still shot it and cooked it. There has to be a line between what god does and what man does. God is not going to hold our hands for every little activity. You do not raise your children to depend on you when they are in their thirties. You raise them to be self sufficent adults, why would god do anything different? God may of given this man the ability to get his own food but the man was still responsible for using the ability to get the food. He should thank god for the ability not the food itself (or both if you want to say god made the deer too) But just saying thank you for the food develops a sense of dependency and god has better things to do then hold this man's hand.
Bottom line: we must be self sufficient and draw the line between our own power and someone else's.
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I will make this even more clear from what I am getting. For this task I shall employ an example: A man goes out hunting and prays to find a deer, he find said deer. The man then aims his weapon and prays for a clean kill. The man gets the clean kill and then cooks the meat. He then prays once more, thanking his diety for the food.
Now that sounds pretty normal but if you sit there and think about it, you will find some errors. (or let me do the thinking)
Anyway the man prayed for the deer, but used his skills to go to where a deer might be. He then used his markmanship to get a clean kill. He prayed for these things that he acquired himself. He then thanks his diety for the food. Even if god sent him the deer he still shot it and cooked it. There has to be a line between what god does and what man does. God is not going to hold our hands for every little activity. You do not raise your children to depend on you when they are in their thirties. You raise them to be self sufficent adults, why would god do anything different? God may of given this man the ability to get his own food but the man was still responsible for using the ability to get the food. He should thank god for the ability not the food itself (or both if you want to say god made the deer too) But just saying thank you for the food develops a sense of dependency and god has better things to do then hold this man's hand.
Bottom line: we must be self sufficient and draw the line between our own power and someone else's.
Give a man a fish.......
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I will make this even more clear from what I am getting. For this task I shall employ an example: A man goes out hunting and prays to find a deer, he find said deer. The man then aims his weapon and prays for a clean kill. The man gets the clean kill and then cooks the meat. He then prays once more, thanking his diety for the food.
Now that sounds pretty normal but if you sit there and think about it, you will find some errors. (or let me do the thinking)
Anyway the man prayed for the deer, but used his skills to go to where a deer might be. He then used his markmanship to get a clean kill. He prayed for these things that he acquired himself. He then thanks his diety for the food. Even if god sent him the deer he still shot it and cooked it. There has to be a line between what god does and what man does. God is not going to hold our hands for every little activity. You do not raise your children to depend on you when they are in their thirties. You raise them to be self sufficent adults, why would god do anything different? God may of given this man the ability to get his own food but the man was still responsible for using the ability to get the food. He should thank god for the ability not the food itself (or both if you want to say god made the deer too) But just saying thank you for the food develops a sense of dependency and god has better things to do then hold this man's hand.
Bottom line: we must be self sufficient and draw the line between our own power and someone else's.
ah nicely said :-D and clarifies how much i think too much outside the box lol