Dryads, Nymphs, Dwarves, Elves, Faeries, Leprechauns, etc.

Started by Daemonin, September 16, 2008, 06:28:13 AM

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leave it to kreeps to save us all from stupidity
the wind that chills the night, the fire's golden light
the oceans call to you, the earthen fated tune,
I am the ivy binding tight i hold the spells all through the night, i am
nightshade's fated swoon of deaths kiss and witches broom

Not stupidity so much as ignorance. Although the two might seem indistinguishable at times, there is an important element of difference.
''Come on, I want you to do it, I want you to do it. Come on, hit me. *Hit me!''

-The Joker to Batman, The Dark Knight

i agree now on to the next topic, what are you gyses views theories mad scientific skeems on imps, there relation or confusion with fairy's and how to tell the differences between them
the wind that chills the night, the fire's golden light
the oceans call to you, the earthen fated tune,
I am the ivy binding tight i hold the spells all through the night, i am
nightshade's fated swoon of deaths kiss and witches broom

"Imp" is just a generic term for a small, mischievous otherwordly thing. Demon, fairy, familiar spirit, whatever. Kind of like "gremlin" and "goblin".

now in my experience imps are specifically more keyed down than fairy's or more substantial than a fairy and despite all the beauty of the fae good and bad imps have shown me very ugly angular and crude faces with lack of properly formed bofyparts
the wind that chills the night, the fire's golden light
the oceans call to you, the earthen fated tune,
I am the ivy binding tight i hold the spells all through the night, i am
nightshade's fated swoon of deaths kiss and witches broom

I'm going to say it again. There is no such thing as an "Imp". The only recorded instanced of imps in any folklore is medieval texts on witches written from a heavily Christian point of view and alchemical texts, which are less than reliable. It's just a generic name for a small and mischievous spirit, similar to "Goblin" (which came from the Old Germanic word "kobold", which were malicious dwarfs)

If I may ask, Levin, how much knowledge do you actually have concerning the spirits from ancient myths that have recently been called by the name "Fae"?

Dude, he's SEEN them. I think that's a lot more experience than some texts or myths.
Gabriel, "Don't kill yourself for it would crush my angelic heart. I love you for who you are and I'm glad I met you. :]"

"I'm going to break him, and there will be blood."

i know this question wasn't pertaining to me Mr.Kreepy but the knowledge i know about spirits and stuff like that is really low!! i mean i've read a lot about vampires, fairies, fae, goblins, etc, but i don't know the truth about them!!!
You think I'm crazy, I think you're tasty!

Lol, don't worry about it hun, when it comes to the Fae, truth is a VERY blurry thing. :spy:
Gabriel, "Don't kill yourself for it would crush my angelic heart. I love you for who you are and I'm glad I met you. :]"

"I'm going to break him, and there will be blood."

Exactly regina

ANd for kreeps regards I have conducted rituals alongside with fae, conversed with three dryads and several water spirits  my knowledge of fae while not vast can at least provides some insite to others. :wink:
the wind that chills the night, the fire's golden light
the oceans call to you, the earthen fated tune,
I am the ivy binding tight i hold the spells all through the night, i am
nightshade's fated swoon of deaths kiss and witches broom

thanks guys!!
You think I'm crazy, I think you're tasty!

No problem hun, are you simply curious like me? Or is there another reason why you would like to learn more about them? :? :-)
Gabriel, "Don't kill yourself for it would crush my angelic heart. I love you for who you are and I'm glad I met you. :]"

"I'm going to break him, and there will be blood."

Quote from: Regina Terra on November 29, 2008, 09:39:35 AM
Dude, he's SEEN them. I think that's a lot more experience than some texts or myths.

Are you aware of the nature of Fae?
They think of humans the way we think of animals. No, they think less of us. They will trick and harm humans simply for laughs. The reason I tell him that "imps" are purely a human construct is because if something is appearing to him under the guise of an imp, I think he should really watch his back.
As for his experiences, I refuse to simply take his word for it. As I have found some credibility in claims of the existence of spirit beings I will give him some credit, but you can't expect me to believe based on testamonial alone. Even If he's not lying or insane, the human mind is so strange and complex that it can easily be tricked in its perception of reality.

I just realised something. You are basically saying a certain type of Fae isn't real. This MIGHT be true, and it MIGHT piss them off (since you can't honestly talk about Fae and believe that they will just ignore you like some mild mannered school girl) to the point where they will personally pay you a visit.

Yeah, good luck with that Kreepy. :evil:
Gabriel, "Don't kill yourself for it would crush my angelic heart. I love you for who you are and I'm glad I met you. :]"

"I'm going to break him, and there will be blood."

Heres my opinions on this matter:

Elves & Dwarves are from Norse Mythology, which was one of the writer of LOTRs whose name I am too lazy to type's influence,

Dwarves were created from the maggots from the flesh of Ymir when Odin & his brothers killed him and made the world, and lived in the underground of Nioavellir, one of the 9 worlds connected by Yggdrasil, and were not described as short until the 13th century (aka 1200s, aka over a thousand years since the you know what), were said to have pale skin and black hair, and were responsible for making most of the god's artifacts like Thor's hammer, Odin's Spear and even Sif's Hair,

Belief in Elves was common among all Germanic Tribes which included the Norse, the were described as human size but incredibally handsome, and important figures could become Elves after Death, they live in Alfheimr which lies in the sky, Alfheimr was ruled by a king, one of which was named Gandalf, the source of the name for the LOTR character,

The modern fantasy Elf & Dwarf are nearly completely based off the LOTR books.

Trolls were also from Norse mythology but occur much later, taking the parts traditionally reserved for other norse creatures including the dwarf and the ice giant (the true name of which is hard to spell so I shall not) they are described as being incredibally ugly (true in modern fantasy) and as being turned to stone by the suns rays (Not true in modern fantasy yet occurs in the Hobbit)

Like has been stated Dryads & Nymphs are Greek in origin Dryads are technically the Nymphs of Oak trees but generally refer to all tree Nymphs, and as a matter of fact do NOT die when their tree is cut down, those are Hamadryads, a subrace, Nymphs are really any female  mythological creature tied to a certain feature of the land, Naiad is the proper term for a nymph of water, there are nymphs of water, trees, valleys, clouds, and even the underworld.

Leprechauns are just basic male faerie folk known for being shoemakers other then that I'd say modern fiction is pretty accurate (though truth be told English & Celtic mythology aren't my strong point) though I doubt they are as hmmm. . . mascotty? as in modern interpretation. . .

Faeries or Faerie Folk covers a wide range of mythological creatures primarily from Europe, sort of like a Phylum in scientific classification,

Brownies are small creatures that do not like to be seen, they tend to come out at night to help with work in exchange for small gifts or food like porridge or honey but will tend to leave if the gifts are called payment as that implies a type of master / servent (okay, employer / employee is more acurate but master / servent sounds better) they tend not to talk to people but are quite sociable among their own kind, and I believe offending them some times causes them to turn into a boggart though I can't seem to find the site I learned this from. . .

With the increase in communication the lines between them blurred and they have been predominately groupped in one category due to certain similar charateristics as this thread gives evidence to. . .

You know one of my peeves is when a person (Tolkein in this case) interprets a certain creature in a certain way then the rest of the world takes that as being true without even looking at where that person got their interpretation from, not that it's that person's fault, mainly it the mindless mass we know as human society. . .

For example the Hobgoblin, in modern fantasy it's considered a bigger badder version of the goblin (again partially Tolkein's fault but he tried to fix it so no fault of his) but in actuality it was a smaller and NICE version of the Goblin. . .

Hmmmmm. . . I hope that made sense . . .

IN SUMMARY: The only person who knows what is the true form of something is the person that created it (NOTE: don't take the litterally, okay, don't go looking for some wise and deeper meaing just don't take it as it's litterally written)

And now I have run out of steam so I will push the Post button before this degrades any futher into an incomprehensible pile of gunk. . .
I have multiple personalities, one is a were-Sheepenguin, one is a fruit vampire, one likes to imagine cruel and unusal totures, that one's name is Bob the VI.

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