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The Animal Within => Monstrous Animals => Topic started by: barmethius on November 02, 2007, 05:49:23 PM

Title: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: barmethius on November 02, 2007, 05:49:23 PM
SAN MARCOS, Texas - The results are in: The ugly, big-eared animal found this summer in southern Texas is not the mythical, bloodsucking chupacabra. It's just a plain old coyote.
 
Biologists at Texas State University announced Thursday night they had identified the hairless doglike creature.

KENS-TV of San Antonio provided a tissue sample from the animal for testing.

"The DNA sequence is a virtually identical match to DNA from the coyote," biologist Mike Forstner said in a statement. "This is probably the answer a lot of folks thought might be the outcome. I, myself, really thought it was a domestic dog, but the Cuero Chupacabra is a Texas Coyote."

Phylis Canion and some of her neighbors discovered the 40-pound bodies of three of the animals over four days in July outside her ranch in Cuero, 90 miles southeast of San Antonio.

Canion said she saved the head of the one she found so she could get to the bottom of its ancestry through DNA testing and then mount it for posterity.

Chupacabra means "goat sucker" in Spanish, and it is said to have originated in Puerto Rico and Mexico.

Additional skin samples have been taken to try to determine the cause of the animal's hair loss, Forstner said.

Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: drdoom on June 11, 2008, 04:46:07 PM
Appears fake to me
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Petling on July 13, 2008, 01:24:42 PM
Maybe Chupacabra is just a different, native, name for this hairless coyote? <=/
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Spade on August 02, 2008, 03:23:38 PM
I think the chupacabra is just a giant tick.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: thneedly on August 02, 2008, 03:31:12 PM
Maybe Chupacabra is just a different, native, name for this hairless coyote? <=/

I guess that explains why it's been reported as being bipedal, having greenish skin, and a large, Grey-like head.
Totally makes sense to me.  :roll:
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Petling on August 02, 2008, 03:56:42 PM
Tall tales & legends can spring from everywhere. The belief in Quetzalcoatl sprang from a bird with an unusually long tail, you know. :|
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: thneedly on August 02, 2008, 04:11:32 PM
Tall tales & legends can spring from everywhere. The belief in Quetzalcoatl sprang from a bird with an unusually long tail, you know. :|

*BUZZ*
Wrong.
I know this because my town has a relatively high Hispanic population, with quite of few of them practicing brujas and brujos (although if they caught me calling them that and not curanderos they'd probably curse me, or worse, feed me to their dogs)
Of the several brujos I've talked to, most of them have taken my curiosity and ran with it, force-feeding my brain anything and everything about the Mesoamerican indigenous gods, including Kukulkan/Quetzalcoatl.
Really, I have much better uses for my brain that that and I wish I could use that brain space for something more helpful, but there you have it.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Spade on August 02, 2008, 04:17:20 PM
The myth of Quetzalcoatl is the reason the Natives embraced Christianity.

Quetzalcoatl and Jesus have almost the exact same stories.

I think it's funny that the Mayans were great astrologers and many people believe that the story of Jesus is all Astrological.

Jesus = God's Sun.. or.. Sun God. So Jesus is the Sun.
12 desciples = 12 constellations.

Yadayadayada.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Petling on August 02, 2008, 04:56:43 PM
... ... ... needs, I am going to have to respectfully disagree. :-(
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: thneedly on August 02, 2008, 05:40:55 PM
... ... ... needs, I am going to have to respectfully disagree. :-(


Really?
Well cite your sources. Here's mine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl

You can disagree all you want, you'll still be wrong.
Okay, yes, there is a bird named "Quetzal". But quetzal is just a Nahuatl word meaning, "large brilliant tail feather". Coatl means serpent, and these were combined to form the name Quetzalcoatl, for a feathered serpent god.
Just because a name sounds similar doesn't mean that one came from the other.
Godzilla has the word God in it but you don't hear people claiming that the bible says
"On the first day, Gojira said 'LET THERE BE BUILDINGS TO DESTROY AND LITTLE JAPANESE PEOPLE TO EAT', and it was good".

Not only am I a mythology geek and anthropologist by hobby, but I'm friends with practicing brujo.
You do better than that.
Or, better yet, STFU, do research, cite your sources, then get back to me.

Now please  :focus:
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 17, 2008, 12:14:34 AM
 A tad harsh... but I'm still laughing.  *<:)
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: TheTerror on August 17, 2008, 10:15:14 AM
oyg that is a great Idea why didn't I think of that (let godzilla destroy buiding and all that crap)
oh and I believe god,jesus,and the feathered serpent were the same people
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: blow_fly on August 18, 2008, 04:10:06 AM
In my humble opinion, that belief is hardly justified by the existing  evidence.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 18, 2008, 12:09:04 PM
 If it really is just a coyote... where the crap is it's hair? I know animals get mange and such.. but ALL of it's gone? Something smells like fish..... and it's not me.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: bandersnatch on August 18, 2008, 11:16:17 PM
If it really is just a coyote... where the crap is it's hair? I know animals get mange and such.. but ALL of it's gone? Something smells like fish..... and it's not me.

Mange can take out all of the hair, and if the disease isn't enough the exposed flesh attracts parasites that irritate the body to the point where fur falls out even more.. I've seen it done, and it's not attractive.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: TheTerror on August 19, 2008, 10:02:15 AM
good point
really
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Daemonin on August 19, 2008, 10:10:08 AM
I really hoped that thing was real, but... of course, it's just a hairless coyote thing.

Poor coyote.  Maybe they will find one soon.  I mean, after that apparent bigfoot finding (which has yet to be determined) maybe we should form a search party and try to catch a chupacabra.  That'd be fun :-)
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: TheTerror on August 19, 2008, 10:11:29 AM
ya that would be nice
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Daemonin on August 19, 2008, 10:20:07 AM
Let me get a car and we can make a search party, get some big cage traps that we may be able to catch one in without hurting it, get some bait... and start a campfire and make s'mores.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: TheTerror on August 19, 2008, 10:25:33 AM
cool lets
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Daemonin on August 19, 2008, 10:27:11 AM
And we can hold hands and sing "Kumbahyah" or however it's spelled if we drink Tequila :-D
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: TheTerror on August 19, 2008, 10:32:24 AM
...helllllllllnooooo
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Daemonin on August 19, 2008, 10:38:03 AM
 *<:) *<:) *<:)

^__^ I'm just kidding.  Besides, if we're going to catch a chupacabra, we can't be drunk!
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Petling on August 19, 2008, 11:01:08 AM
Those things are smart, have you noticed how they never attack humans? Almost as if they know a homicide will blow their "cover" to kingdom come, so they'll be searched for, for sure.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Daemonin on August 19, 2008, 11:04:41 AM
That's when I go out there in some random safari outfit, a ginormous butterfly net, binoculars, and some gigantic backpack that is bigger that I am and venture forth to find one.  And I'll bring some goats for bait.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Petling on August 19, 2008, 11:08:47 AM
Lolz, too smart to fall for that. :-D
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: TheTerror on August 19, 2008, 11:26:56 AM
really and I'm not doin that
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 19, 2008, 03:58:45 PM
 Dae.. it really woulnd't be hard to find a backpack bigger than you are!  *<:) I don't want a safari outfit.. I just want my natural 'woods clothing'. And just let me wander around... either way, it'd be worth it.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Daemonin on August 19, 2008, 04:53:00 PM
I'd make safaris SEXY :evil:

Muahahahaha <^>
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 19, 2008, 04:54:15 PM
 Who votes Dae has to wear really short shorts???

 *raises hand!*

*<:)
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Daemonin on August 19, 2008, 04:56:15 PM
 *<:)

If I must!! 
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 19, 2008, 04:59:12 PM
 YOU MUST!!! YOU MUST!!!
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Daemonin on August 19, 2008, 05:00:30 PM
That's how I'm going to get more people for the search group.  Sex appeal 8-) :wink: *<:)
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 19, 2008, 05:04:05 PM
 RAWR!!  :evil: Hmm... we seem to be straying a bit from the topic.......  :roll:
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: blow_fly on August 22, 2008, 06:26:09 PM
I thought the chupacabra was indigenous to Mexico?
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 22, 2008, 06:44:29 PM
 Texas and Mexico are kinda close together...  :roll:
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: blow_fly on August 27, 2008, 02:04:02 AM
Are you telling me that the U.S border patrol couldn't prevent these illegal aliens from crossing into the U.S?  :-o
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 27, 2008, 07:46:03 PM
 *<:) *<:)

 Nice... are you sure you're not needly in disguise today?  *<:)
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: thneedly on August 30, 2008, 05:09:58 AM
*<:) *<:)

 Nice... are you sure you're not needly in disguise today?  *<:)

I wish I was as skilled as blow_fly. Sadly, I don't have quite his talent for exposing idiocy.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 30, 2008, 11:05:00 AM
 No comment.  :roll:


 I don't see how you could restrict this creature to Mexico. Just like every other wild creature.. it travels too.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: thneedly on August 30, 2008, 11:09:30 AM
No comment.  :roll:


 I don't see how you could restrict this creature to Mexico. Just like every other wild creature.. it travels too.

yeah, but think about it like this.
Well, first off, I think the "chupacabra" is more than one creature, or even species of creature. It's several different creatures being lumped together in one category because of similar hunting strategies.
The areas where the majority of chupacabra attacks happen have lots of livestock and very little urbanization. It is living in a giant feast. I don't think an animal with all the food it could ever want and the perfect place to stay away from danger would want to stray very far from "home".
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 30, 2008, 11:14:42 AM
 I'm not saying it would want to... I'm saying maybe it had to. Forced out because of age or a more dominent male?
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: thneedly on August 30, 2008, 11:16:34 AM
I'm not saying it would want to... I'm saying maybe it had to. Forced out because of age or a more dominent male?

Or competition with other species of "chupacabra".
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 30, 2008, 11:19:41 AM
 Exactly my point. They may not have had a choice in the matter of changing territories. Which could lead to why they are seeing them sick and in other areas.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: thneedly on August 30, 2008, 11:21:31 AM
Exactly my point. They may not have had a choice in the matter of changing territories. Which could lead to why they are seeing them sick and in other areas.

True enough.
I wouldn't doubt that the creature sighted is just some form of mutated coyote that is too weak to hunt regularly, so it ambushes it's prey, drains as much blood as possible, and waits for it to bleed out the rest.
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: Kadesh on August 30, 2008, 11:51:14 AM
 Either that or there's some starved Vamp running around Mexico, chewing on critters.  *<:)
Title: Re: Mythical beast in Texas is just a coyote
Post by: thneedly on August 30, 2008, 11:53:44 AM
Either that or there's some starved Vamp running around Mexico, chewing on critters.  *<:)

Some freaky stuff happens in Mexico...I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, if they've got UFO cults, donkey shows, and psychotic peyote-smoking devil worshipper bandits, then vampires wouldn't surprise me in the least.