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Nina
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Monstrous Governments
« on: May 03, 2011, 11:09:50 PM »
Ok, since last year or two we can all witness s**t given to us by ALL of our governments, i think we could add this to monstrous as well, since i dont really believe (and im not alone in this) that governments are indeed FROM the people and FOR the people. So you can freely add any news on FEMA, s**t laws, new Texan highway, Monsanto, drug and medicine politics,whatever s**t any gov does to people, please go wild here. Ill start with this lil news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufKv-5t0t4E

oh, and ps: welcome to NWO
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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2011, 01:23:14 AM »
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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 06:44:25 PM »
You are letting me go bonkers in this thread?  :-)

Well, according to the U.S. government, we have nothing to fear and we should completely trust them.

Conspiracy theories exist in the realm of myth, where imaginations run wild, fears trump facts, and evidence is ignored. As a superpower, the United States is often cast as a villain in these dramas. ”
—America.gov


See problem solved... or it would be, if it wasn't for:

1) Project MKULTRA - This is about LSD-based mind control, but a CIA veteran revealed that:

Although the CIA insists that MKULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MKULTRA was abandoned a "cover story."

You gotta love Mr. Marchetti, who also wrote:

The real reason for the official secrecy, in most instances, is not to keep the opposition (the CIA's euphemistic term for the enemy) from knowing what is going on; the enemy usually does know. The basic reason for governmental secrecy is to keep you, the American public, from knowing - for you, too, are considered the opposition, or enemy – so that you cannot interfere. When the public does not know what the government or the CIA is doing, it cannot voice its approval or disapproval of their actions. In fact, they can even lie to your about what they are doing or have done, and you will not know it. As for the second advantage, despite frequent suggestion that the CIA is a rogue elephant, the truth is that the agency functions at the direction of and in response to the office of the president. All of its major clandestine operations are carried out with the direct approval of or on direct orders from the White House. The CIA is a secret tool of the president – every president. And every president since Truman has lied to the American people in order to protect the agency. When lies have failed, it has been the duty of the CIA to take the blame for the president, thus protecting him. This is known in the business as "plausible denial." The CIA, functioning as a secret instrument of the U.S. government and the presidency, has long misused and abused history and continues to do so.


2) Operation Northwoods - For those pesky fools who don't believe high up officials would ever want to harm you.

In short, it was a false flag operation intended to garner support for the cuban war. It was rejected by Kennedy and several other individuals with a bumper sticker understanding of morality.

By the way, it'd seem that John F. Kennedy was quite involved in this thing, looking into the wikipedia article. Was the rejection of this plan one reason that he was killed?

Following presentation of the Northwoods plan, Kennedy removed Lyman Lemnitzer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, although he became Supreme Allied Commander of NATO in January 1963. American armed forces leaders began to perceive Kennedy as going soft on Cuba, and the President became increasingly unpopular with the military, a rift that came to a head during Kennedy's disagreements with the service chiefs over the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Indeed.

Methinks that this is also why the 9/11 inside job idea became popular. Call me a generalizer, but sometimes I get the feeling that Bush really would allow for something like 9/11 to garner support on his "war on terror." The muslim hijackers that might agree to such a conspiracy would probably love the idea of blowing up a couple of American buildings.

3) Operation COINTELPRO - Because you thought the FBI was innocent in comparison to the CIA?

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic political organizations.
COINTELPRO tactics included discrediting targets through psychological warfare, planting false reports in the media, smearing through forged letters, harassment, wrongful imprisonment, extralegal violence and assassination. Covert operations under COINTELPRO took place between 1956 and 1971; however, the FBI has used covert operations against domestic political groups since its inception. The FBI's stated motivation at the time was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order."


Which is why they also targeted the civil rights movement.

According to the Church Commitee, founded by Frank Church, designed to expose this stuff for what it is:

Many of the techniques used would be intolerable in a democratic society even if all of the targets had been involved in violent activity, but COINTELPRO went far beyond that...the Bureau conducted a sophisticated vigilante operation aimed squarely at preventing the exercise of First Amendment rights of speech and association, on the theory that preventing the growth of dangerous groups and the propagation of dangerous ideas would protect the national security and deter violence.

Oh, but we should trust our government... yes.  :roll:

Those are just three of a heavy load of conspiracies that have otherwise been proven true, as opposed to just being theories. More research can be done on one's own time, I suppose.

Oh... and off-world intelligent beings, along with an Earth/Terra-indigenous Reptilian species, (they really are nice folks, I'm not sure where all the "evil Reptilian" woo comes from), currently inhabit the subterranean world that a couple of high end officials know about, but you don't need to know about that. Go back to sleep...  :)zzz
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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 08:30:36 PM »
Weee, somebody actually not only read this topic but added quite a nicey too :) weeee! Im so happy my tinfoil hat almost fell off :D

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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2011, 10:58:06 AM »

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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2011, 01:45:30 PM »
Age is not defined by years, but by intellect and maturity.

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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 03:22:33 PM »
Lol, indeed  *<:)

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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2011, 09:08:28 AM »
Should i feel lucky to live right down the street fema death camp.  I never seen the fema camps but i know couple of military and my father told me about the camps since i was child. This was over 30 years ago and i thought he was nuts. Only next few years can tell us if this really going to happen

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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2011, 08:32:33 PM »
Well since I don't see any restraints in place, I guess I will help myself.  :spy:

I'm sure many individuals are aware of a person named "Alex Jones" World's most famous conspiracy theorist. He apparently receives threats from high officials on a regular basis. This is because he is letting out too much truth so we must support him! There is no way that they could buy him out, or that he is working for them!

I have listened to this man and he reveals information so slowly and in such little amounts that it is not worth it. I listened to three shows of his that were three hours in length. I learned very few things that I did not already know. He also doesn't go into the "real" details as much as I would like. He offers links to people who want to find the information themselves (usually the links lead to his website, which of course is comprised of truth) So I will be frank here, I do not trust Alex Jones and I doubt in his motives. I can give examples if necessary but this is just my opinion. No example that I am provided will change my opinion of this man. (but never say never)

So now with that out of the way, we have our second conspiracy theorist, Ms. Sherry Shriner. I have mentioned her before on this site and I shall do so once more. She is an individual who has a radio show. She claims to speak on behalf of the most high (god). She uses bible codes and personal contacts of hers to obtain information. The interesting thing is that she is seeming to be more and more correct everyday. Alex Jones has said everything she has but she covers much more. Her show is one hour long and it is much more thorough then Alex Jones' show. She claims that aliens are controlling the government and aliens are actually fallen angels. She goes into quite a lot of detail of the relations of the different aliens to each other as well.
But the one thing she has said that impressed me was "if you do not believe me then ask the most high himself" She explains that we are able to communicate with god with our hearts. We should ask him for the truth in all things. Whether or not god leads us to her is irrelevant. So the reason this impresses me is that she has a source to check. A back up plan, few are going to dispute that god is an unworthy resource. I am not saying I trust her, but I like her information and she is clear where all her information comes from.

Now whether or not aliens and god are involved does not matter. The bills I am seeing passed are disgusting, the government of the United States is no longer efficient. I am hearing statements and realizing that our politicians are self subservient. Our opinions seem rather unimportant. I am a firm believer in the eminent arrival of martial law. I think that the goal is to control us. Alex Jones mentions this scenario a lot but does not give the real reason why this is not rubbing on the humanity of politicians. (although in no way, shape or form, am I saying politicians have souls) Sherry Shriner says it is because they are aliens or controlled by aliens (fallen angels, demons) and this is Satan's plan to inspire the chapter of revelation in the bible.
I think what is going to happen can be interpreted in the book of revelation, in one way or another. I don't see a bright future and most people want to steer clear of that negative mindset. Which actually makes it easier to come about.

I am also going to say that I believe this message is monitored and that I am on the list somewhere... I also believe these conspiracy people are a little bit crazy... and that I am listening to crazy people... (so what does that make me?)

All I need now is someone to offer me a red pill and a blue pill. (however one will be republican and one will be democratic  :doh:)
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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2011, 09:24:12 PM »
Not as long as you have your tin foil hat of course! But seriously, I could sit here and tell you the government threatens me every day. Is it true? No. But I can still say it. I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, don't get me wrong. But if something doesn't make the least bit sense or hold any ground when applied to real events, then I don't hold it in much worth. The goverments been going down hill since it was first established, and considering how affective they are, I doubt you're on any "list". Sorry if yall are offended, but thats my truth.

Now,  :focus: . There have been theories of "angels" being extraterrestrials for a long time now. It actually involves the "Ancient Aliens" theory, where what we have observed as "angels" and "God" are simply beings of a far more advanced race. Do I believe it? No. I mean, maybe aliens were mistaken for "angels" at times. That doesn't mean all "angels" are aliens. Neither does the theory concerning "God".
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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 02:47:02 AM »
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All I need now is someone to offer me a red pill and a blue pill. (however one will be republican and one will be democratic  )

Funny and close to truth, but not necessarily, there is always a way to go beyond the system if one is really wanting to. Alex Jones for me only recycles what others have spoken about before him, personally, I think Colbert speaks way more about it all than Alex does. Not saying Alex doesnt have a good thing here, just when i saw him started quoting and using Icke as his reference.... gee, i dunno.... I had an interview with mr Icke myself couple years back, went to his "show" two times too, but what was a bit "iffy" to me was that when i asked how hes still alive if all that is true, and people have died for telling it earlier, he said that what keeps hims safe is the fact "they" (reptilian monarchy) consider him crazy. Ok, now, lets get this straight, for one "crazy" dude, he is certainly very popular and is making a lot of money and influence with his books and all. So I asked about the posibility if maybe the third side (alien species that are not reptilian) are watching his back he got all confused and started talking about what he already spoke about for last 8 hours (yes, i was there entire time, its pretty good to hear that, makes u start thinking outside of a box). It was also a bit weird that such an "expert" was surprised when i aksed him bout the Bluebeam project, "where did u get this info?" he asked me... well, mr Icke, im sorry, but the internet and god of google has blessed us all with any info given online, i guess its amazing when someone knows how to google the s**t out.

The one i always like to offer as a good example of a real "truther" is deceased mr Phil Schneider. What makes him more believable is the fact he really DID work for the government, and he really DID get killed as he said he will not long after he went public with what he knew.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7vLXf5bNo

And ancient aliens being "the fallen" and all that, it sounds more logical than anything else, specially if one is an atheist seeking for a good logical explanation of all the archaeological evidence. And then after watching "The Fourth Kind" (which was written and made based on true events)... well, i think it doesnt take too long to connect the dots here and "spot the elephant sitting in our living room", as mr Icke likes to say himself.

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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 07:43:21 AM »
Phil  Schneider, I do not think he was murder by any government agents. It would be to sloppy of them to torture him first and then stage a suicide.  It would more easy for them to make disappear then make him martyr. The information is given during these conferences are the same as any one else. He does not reveal any thing new and i see him as a threat to anything

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Re: Monstrous Governments
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011, 10:28:31 AM »
Well, thats your opinion ;)