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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2006, 10:27:50 PM »
people do silly things and just becuase you don't hear about dosn't mean they're alive.
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2006, 10:31:29 PM »
Im reach very far in the world, and have never heard it. So, yes, that means if I havent heard of it it most likely hasnt happened.
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2006, 10:32:48 PM »
Science and magic are not mutally exclusive, but if the legends are true consider to generate a lightening bolt one mnust be able to generate the power to create one. Same with fire. To lift something teleknietically requires the same amount of energy as picking it up manually. The problem is that it manifests on will, not thought and also requires learning to use a new set of muscles, do you know how hard it is to learn to walk from scratch?
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2006, 10:33:29 PM »
or they're dead  :<, possesed  :evil: or corrputed  :evil:.
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2006, 10:36:59 PM »
Science and magic are not mutally exclusive, but if the legends are true consider to generate a lightening bolt one mnust be able to generate the power to create one. Same with fire. To lift something teleknietically requires the same amount of energy as picking it up manually. The problem is that it manifests on will, not thought and also requires learning to use a new set of muscles, do you know how hard it is to learn to walk from scratch?

Actually, thats not true. I have almost started to light a candle without fire and I managed to twirl a key around a few times and the only energy it took was the energy I put towards the concentration.
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2006, 10:37:44 PM »
ah magik in progress
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2006, 10:38:27 PM »
or they're dead  :<, possesed  :evil: or corrputed  :evil:.

But still them and their story would only disapear if they lived in a closed system and apparently since you claim to know such things to be true, they don't and since it is true the story must be common knowledge.
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2006, 10:39:36 PM »
possibly
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2006, 10:40:55 PM »
Science and magic are not mutally exclusive, but if the legends are true consider to generate a lightening bolt one mnust be able to generate the power to create one. Same with fire. To lift something teleknietically requires the same amount of energy as picking it up manually. The problem is that it manifests on will, not thought and also requires learning to use a new set of muscles, do you know how hard it is to learn to walk from scratch?

Actually, thats not true. I have almost started to light a candle without fire and I managed to twirl a key around a few times and the only energy it took was the energy I put towards the concentration.
And? How does this disprove my statement?
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2006, 10:41:45 PM »
yeah phantom
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2006, 11:33:17 PM »
what is magick?(aleister crowley quotes don't count ;))and how does it differ from, mind over matter.(monk demonstrated feats of physical impossibilities)

i want a personal description from each of you!

...until then, no more argueing?

and then we can see what exactly is the root of the arguement, we all believe in magick, we all have witnessed it work...so what's the problem?  *confused*
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2006, 11:43:15 PM »
well oviously it is a powerful force that can be harnessed but people in the wrong mind set can't use it because they don't know how.
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2006, 12:10:19 AM »
I believe magic is a force of nature that can be tapped in and used by anybody, like fire and electricity.
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2006, 12:12:36 AM »
that's a good point and quite right
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Re: The limitations of Magik
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2006, 09:26:42 AM »
Science and magic are not mutally exclusive, but if the legends are true consider to generate a lightening bolt one mnust be able to generate the power to create one. Same with fire. To lift something teleknietically requires the same amount of energy as picking it up manually. The problem is that it manifests on will, not thought and also requires learning to use a new set of muscles, do you know how hard it is to learn to walk from scratch?

Actually, thats not true. I have almost started to light a candle without fire and I managed to twirl a key around a few times and the only energy it took was the energy I put towards the concentration.
And? How does this disprove my statement?

It would have taken me more energy to move the key and start the flame(via lighter or match)  manually than to do it with my mind.
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