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Monstrous Café => Mayday! Mayday! => Topic started by: matthew321 on July 21, 2010, 08:46:03 PM
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I would not post unless I felt it necessary.. I have started typing here and stopped myself many times...
I believe I have a parasite or maybe a shadow or even both. I live with my parents (still a minor) and I reside in the basement while they do more activities upstairs. I have been down here for a good 10 years and a lot of negative energy has accumulated. This is an above average amount, you can see it radiate off the house a little. When you go towards my room where it is concentrated you get a heavy feeling. I say that because I think that may of acted as a lure to unfriendly guests.
I often experience my problem when lying in bed thinking. I will close my eyes and I see my room from the inside of my eyes. I see these dots move all over the place (energy). For the past few months I have witnessed a figure in my eyes it was black. It was more square looking and looked like someone's shadow. I saw a smile from it and it had spiked teeth pointing downward. I open my eyes and it is gone. However another night I saw it again with my eyes open, in the corner of my eyes I see it. As soon as I react it vanishes.
(http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://thefake.img3.kr/600tm4869_0l.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wackstore.com/shop/shopdetail.html%3Fbranduid%3D4499%26xcode%3D020%26mcode%3D000%26scode%3D%26type%3DO%26search%3D%26sort%3Dorder&usg=__ifEzcZcHaB8jFnjCS7WeuBgfGsc=&h=600&w=600&sz=48&hl=en&start=360&tbnid=7-N_5hGuYrTiHM:&tbnh=161&tbnw=157&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dshadow%2Bmonster%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D651%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10,14082&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=379&ei=o7xHTPWGG5GUnQe7lLjcAw&page=28&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:360&biw=1024&bih=651)
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A lot like that except the being is black and a little more square.
Another night I had my eyes closed and I saw this pool of energy rush into me. It was black and it seems to be similar to this being. It was rushing into me or maybe just resting on top of me. I saw it moving in a manner that resembles a slinky moving down the stairs but on my chest. It was getting closer to my throat. It seemed as though It was being pumped into me.
The reason I also thought this may be a parasite is when I try to meditate I get odd feelings. I feel it seems insects on my arms (not physical ones) they drain me of my energy and my will. They feel just like insects or maybe tubes going in for someone to enjoy me as a night time milkshake. I get the same feelings night or day but it is stronger at night.
There are also these odd lines that appear in the energy of my room and outside.
It is as though something is flying quickly through the air but is not to be seen. They appear as white lines and leave a trail for a second.
I feel constantly drained everywhere I go. Not as much physically but spiritually. I feel a dark presence wherever I go and I am constantly paranoid of my surroundings. I know of some beings that follow me but this is different. This seems threatening in nature, I don't trust it.
These have been going on for a while but they are seeming to increase in occurrence. I feel weaker then I used too. My sleep is constantly disturbed.
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I had this, I can't really tell you how to get rid of it, but I'll tell you how I did it: major will power and I just grabbed the being and ripped it out.
I took a lot of damage because of that, my powers went in lockdown and aren't quite recovered yet.
Though you should pm Moloch about this, he'll be sure to know how to get rid of it, though don't be surprised if he says what it is but tells you not how to get rid of it because you must learn that urself.
Or maybe that was only true in my case ^^'
the willpower isn't like normal willpower though, it suffices to have the willpower you summon at that moment to tear it out. It shouldn't be willpower that is there all the time, just stick to your goal and get it out/away
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Alright I can be content with figuring out the solution by myself. However I will ask for help in figuring out the problem.
I would like a few methods to determine if this is attached to my soul or not. If I provoke it by certain actions. What exactly is it gaining from me. Feeding patterns and identification of said creature.
It may be a parasite but some guidance to some research would be appreciated. It may be specific or something else entirely acting as a parasite.
Are there any good websites to use as a research base for this? I just want to narrow down the problem so that narrows down the solutions as well. Whatever this is, it is draining me and I am getting annoyed of it.
Last night after I posted, I felt particularly weak, I think it is capable of intelligence and is getting angry.
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I have followed your advice Ladygriffin and LeXtruX. I sent a PM to Moloch and we will see where things go from there.
I sense I am going to learn something the hard way...
Thank you for all your input.
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You know not even the half of it, Matthew. I have already responded via PM. However, in the interest of putting some information out there to help others...
The first mistake people make nowadays is turning to the internet for all of the answers to their problems. This especially true of paranormal situations. Yes, it can be a great vehicle to finding knowledge in the form of those more experienced, but please, don't look up stuff on Wikipedia and expect it to work for you.
Look on the web if you must. But look for people who are gifted AND experienced. These people should never ask for remuneration, and should be responsible enough to make you do at least some of the work, but only if you are capable of it. Lex is a good example of how it should happen to you and LG is right. No one grows strong enough to walk and run if they're carried everywhere.
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wow, I'm a good example? *<:) nice :D
but seriously matt, you got to strengthen yourself and find the way how you feel you can get rid of it, it depends on how you use your powers too...
I can grab energies with my hands, that's how I work, don't know how, but I do... so I grabbed the damn thing and ripped it out.
There are other ways, but a parasite should be compared to normal parasites, and not like demons or such, just by ordering them to go they won't leave, so you have to break the points where it is attached to you, but mostly their 'claws' or grip runs deeper than the surface, keep that in mind, your strong, most likely way ahead of me, you'll find a way, especially if moloch gave you a pm, his reply to me was vague, but I knew immediatly what I should do and he never told me how...
If I can, you can ;) but you got to find your own way to do this, mine was dangerous and damaged me alot.
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Moloch stated what he interpreted this as. I think he has a good chunk of the problem. So I am attempting to remedy it, which is difficult.
Moloch was very helpful and I am glad he was willing to give his input. Also I slept pretty great last night, but still felt a little drained in the mourning. But I did not feel as bad as usual, it seems to fluctuate.
Thank you Moloch
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You're quite welcome. I'm glad to be able to help.
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I would not post unless I felt it necessary.. I have started typing here and stopped myself many times...
I believe I have a parasite or maybe a shadow or even both. I live with my parents (still a minor) and I reside in the basement while they do more activities upstairs. I have been down here for a good 10 years and a lot of negative energy has accumulated. This is an above average amount, you can see it radiate off the house a little. When you go towards my room where it is concentrated you get a heavy feeling. I say that because I think that may of acted as a lure to unfriendly guests.
I often experience my problem when lying in bed thinking. I will close my eyes and I see my room from the inside of my eyes. I see these dots move all over the place (energy). For the past few months I have witnessed a figure in my eyes it was black. It was more square looking and looked like someone's shadow. I saw a smile from it and it had spiked teeth pointing downward. I open my eyes and it is gone. However another night I saw it again with my eyes open, in the corner of my eyes I see it. As soon as I react it vanishes.
A lot like that except the being is black and a little more square.
Another night I had my eyes closed and I saw this pool of energy rush into me. It was black and it seems to be similar to this being. It was rushing into me or maybe just resting on top of me. I saw it moving in a manner that resembles a slinky moving down the stairs but on my chest. It was getting closer to my throat. It seemed as though It was being pumped into me.
The reason I also thought this may be a parasite is when I try to meditate I get odd feelings. I feel it seems insects on my arms (not physical ones) they drain me of my energy and my will. They feel just like insects or maybe tubes going in for someone to enjoy me as a night time milkshake. I get the same feelings night or day but it is stronger at night.
There are also these odd lines that appear in the energy of my room and outside.
It is as though something is flying quickly through the air but is not to be seen. They appear as white lines and leave a trail for a second.
I feel constantly drained everywhere I go. Not as much physically but spiritually. I feel a dark presence wherever I go and I am constantly paranoid of my surroundings. I know of some beings that follow me but this is different. This seems threatening in nature, I don't trust it.
These have been going on for a while but they are seeming to increase in occurrence. I feel weaker then I used too. My sleep is constantly disturbed.
I have have been on the receiving end of this myself in the past and I find it extremely difficult to accept the suggestions that this is simply a manifestation of "sleep paralysis", hypnagogic hallucinations, or some type of an externalized Jungian archetype when all of these testimonies are almost identical... the feelings of dread, the encroaching black mist etc...
if someone mentions EMF I'm going to hurl :-P ...
my advise is to assert yourself the next time this occurs ....long story short: "if you can spy them, you CAN fry them" ...
keep us posted....
-barek-
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I would not post unless I felt it necessary.. I have started typing here and stopped myself many times...
I believe I have a parasite or maybe a shadow or even both. I live with my parents (still a minor) and I reside in the basement while they do more activities upstairs. I have been down here for a good 10 years and a lot of negative energy has accumulated. This is an above average amount, you can see it radiate off the house a little. When you go towards my room where it is concentrated you get a heavy feeling. I say that because I think that may of acted as a lure to unfriendly guests.
I often experience my problem when lying in bed thinking. I will close my eyes and I see my room from the inside of my eyes. I see these dots move all over the place (energy). For the past few months I have witnessed a figure in my eyes it was black. It was more square looking and looked like someone's shadow. I saw a smile from it and it had spiked teeth pointing downward. I open my eyes and it is gone. However another night I saw it again with my eyes open, in the corner of my eyes I see it. As soon as I react it vanishes.
A lot like that except the being is black and a little more square.
Another night I had my eyes closed and I saw this pool of energy rush into me. It was black and it seems to be similar to this being. It was rushing into me or maybe just resting on top of me. I saw it moving in a manner that resembles a slinky moving down the stairs but on my chest. It was getting closer to my throat. It seemed as though It was being pumped into me.
The reason I also thought this may be a parasite is when I try to meditate I get odd feelings. I feel it seems insects on my arms (not physical ones) they drain me of my energy and my will. They feel just like insects or maybe tubes going in for someone to enjoy me as a night time milkshake. I get the same feelings night or day but it is stronger at night.
There are also these odd lines that appear in the energy of my room and outside.
It is as though something is flying quickly through the air but is not to be seen. They appear as white lines and leave a trail for a second.
I feel constantly drained everywhere I go. Not as much physically but spiritually. I feel a dark presence wherever I go and I am constantly paranoid of my surroundings. I know of some beings that follow me but this is different. This seems threatening in nature, I don't trust it.
These have been going on for a while but they are seeming to increase in occurrence. I feel weaker then I used too. My sleep is constantly disturbed.
I have have been on the receiving end of this myself in the past and I find it extremely difficult to accept the suggestions that this is simply a manifestation of "sleep paralysis", hypnagogic hallucinations, or some type of an externalized Jungian archetype when all of these testimonies are almost identical... the feelings of dread, the encroaching black mist etc...
if someone mentions EMF I'm going to hurl :-P ...
my advise is to assert yourself the next time this occurs ....long story short: "if you can spy them, you CAN fry them" ...
keep us posted....
-barek-
Please do hurl, Barek. I told him that's what it was, pointed him towards the information he needed to make a sound decision on the matter... and he agreed.
Please, bother yourself to read an entire thread before responding with such snide and sniveling comments.
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Please, bother yourself to read an entire thread before responding with such snide and sniveling comments.
I also feel the Occam's razor principal is the most prudent and while I may have been a tad hasty in not considering the poster's age, this IS a paranormal forum ....
But alas, I must have missed the article in the site rules that states it is obligatory for me to read all of the interceding thread comments prior to making an on-topic reply to the original post ...
And for the record: Mr Halfhand seldom "snivels"...if you could see me you'd be much less inclined to accuse me of such (just an FYI) :wink:
but for the sake of (casual) discussion, what evidence do you have that there is a correlation between EMF and hallucinations / false paranormal experiences? ...
I would think that electricians and power plant employees that are constantly exposed to unshielded transformers and rectifiers would be seeing shadow entities/ghosts on a daily basis if this were the case ...I would further think the IBEW apprenticeship would include this as an aspect of the curriculum especially since apprentices surely would not have had the opportunity to build up a "tolerance" to this alleged adversity and occupational hazard ...
please provide links that may reinforce your stance on this issue and I will be happy to concede my apparently erroneous postulations regarding this subject ... I have been researching this topic for many years and have yet to find quantitative evidence to support the EMF supposition....
*edit: I reread this and all it says is that you sent him a PM ...am I to assume this is always the final word on all topics posted in this section? ( I must missed that in the site rules too )
:-) Mr Halfhand
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Well..I've have seen Mr Halfhand in person.. :-D and he IS much too big to be a sniveler... :focus:.. 0:) 8-) :-*
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I want to dive into this too.
Berek Halfhand E.M.F. sensitivity is rare among people. Chances are that individuals working for electrical companies do not have E.M.F. sensitivity. Not only is it rare but it also has varying degrees of effect. Some of the rare people affected by it only are a little bit and it is even more rare to be effected to a greater degree.
So a fraction of a fraction of people and a small fraction of them working for an electrical company is slim. If they were sensitive they might figure it out or not. Hallucinations is a rare potential affect of it so that narrows it down more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity)
Now I am sensitive to this and have had improved sleep with some provisions being taken. But it was not the whole cause of my situation. It did cause some major sleep deprivation. My situation has been remedied and Moloch gave a large contribution to leading me to a solution.
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I want to dive into this too.
Berek Halfhand E.M.F. sensitivity is rare among people. Chances are that individuals working for electrical companies do not have E.M.F. sensitivity. Not only is it rare but it also has varying degrees of effect. Some of the rare people affected by it only are a little bit and it is even more rare to be effected to a greater degree.
So a fraction of a fraction of people and a small fraction of them working for an electrical company is slim. If they were sensitive they might figure it out or not. Hallucinations is a rare potential affect of it so that narrows it down more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity)
Now I am sensitive to this and have had improved sleep with some provisions being taken. But it was not the whole cause of my situation. It did cause some major sleep deprivation. My situation has been remedied and Moloch gave a large contribution to leading me to a solution.
:? ummmm ....from that link you provided:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity)
The majority of provocation trials to date have found that self-described sufferers of electromagnetic hypersensitivity are unable to distinguish between exposure to real and sham electromagnetic fields, and it is not recognized as a medical condition by the medical or scientific community .
The important thing is that you feel he helped you and that is what really matters ...
standing down :-)
barek
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Cassiel - I call it as it is, not necessarily how others see it. Size does not mean a thing when it comes to a person's mentality. Though, for the record, you may want to take a look at my pictures in the Gallery before you start telling me about how big another member is.
Barek - Why you wandered out of your usual haunt is beyond me. However, I do appreciate your attempt at lending a hand. As for your question regarding reading all of a particular thread's posts... that is simple Forum etiquette wherever you go. It's also been implicated in the prevention of hoof and mouth disease. You should try it.
Matthew - If you believe that you've gotten all the mileage from this thread that you can, I suggest that you lock it. This way you can reopen it as you see fit without having to go to a Moderator.
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Barek - Why you wandered out of your usual haunt is beyond me. However, I do appreciate your attempt at lending a hand. As for your question regarding reading all of a particular thread's posts... that is simple Forum etiquette wherever you go. It's also been implicated in the prevention of hoof and mouth disease. You should try it.
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Please elucidate me on why it is "beyond you" ... You really do need to refine your people skills, but I digress ....
Again, all you did was said to have sent him a PM ...is it widely recognized as "Forum etiquette" that this declaration dictates that all subsequent comments beyond that would be deemed as inappropriate? ... well I must really be the uncultured rube :roll:
But since you have elected to proceed with this conversation, I notice you have yet to reply to the comments I made concerning your erroneous contention that EMF causes hallucinations/false perceptions of paranormal experiences etc....perhaps you should dedicate more time to research as opposed to composing such devastating witticisms (hoof and mouth disease) and citing fallacious forum etiquette fax pas (just a suggestion) ...
you should try not to come across as so confrontational and this is where those people skills come into play, :wink: but I digress ...
was it you that supplied him with this link?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity)
The majority of provocation trials to date have found that self-described sufferers of electromagnetic hypersensitivity are unable to distinguish between exposure to real and sham electromagnetic fields, and it is not recognized as a medical condition by the medical or scientific community .
*Matt don't lock the thread on my account , I shan't trouble you or this section with any more of my apparent inanities (unless of course Mr Mooloch wishes to address the the EMF issues, but I doubt it )
(Cassiel let me know if you can't find the photo)
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Cassiel - I call it as it is, not necessarily how others see it. Size does not mean a thing when it comes to a person's mentality. Though, for the record, you may want to take a look at my pictures in the Gallery before you start telling me about how big another member is.
Barek - Why you wandered out of your usual haunt is beyond me. However, I do appreciate your attempt at lending a hand. As for your question regarding reading all of a particular thread's posts... that is simple Forum etiquette wherever you go. It's also been implicated in the prevention of hoof and mouth disease. You should try it.
Matthew - If you believe that you've gotten all the mileage from this thread that you can, I suggest that you lock it. This way you can reopen it as you see fit without having to go to a Moderator.
Well mr moloch seems we may have two different views of what "big" actually means, so I will explain what I mean first. I am referring the very sculpted defined body of a man who has been pushing iron for 25 years and not only towers over me in height (a perfect fit for me to feel safe in btw...) but does not have an ounce of fat folding over anywhere... but I will be glad to take a look in the gallery to see what you mean by your definition of "Big" can you give me a link to what your speaking of? :-)
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Going to go ahead and lock this as it seems what needed to be said has been said.