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Monstrous People => The Psi Zone => Topic started by: nynke on December 04, 2008, 02:01:14 PM

Title: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 04, 2008, 02:01:14 PM
I'm for about a week now on this forum and I already saw a few people starting to claim certain powers.
pleas don't!

When I was at my old forum, I just believed what everybody told me.
We had: Hydro,Gyro,Pyro,ki,psi,luna,solar and hunderd of other energies while in most cases your just using telekinese when it is about moving for exsample water.
The rest can be cathogorized in psychokinese.
But i'm begging you to keep the border between making a whirlwind or a little blow real.
I've seen people claiming katrina and the tsunami and I don't want to see those things anymore, we are not X-man.
Making atack moves by looking anime.

It is true everything it possible on the astral, but they where trying to make it possible for real.

And I know, things are not that worse on this forum, but when the mind goes on the loose by some people we might have it happen here.
Thats why I'm writing this more as a warning so it does not go out hand.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: Regina Terra on December 04, 2008, 02:32:26 PM
It's great to see someone who believes, but isn't stupid enough to believe ANYTHING. ^.^

And don't worry hun, this forum is a safe haven for everyone, so we get the wackos who make outrageous claims. But we just ignore them. ^.^
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: Vivid777 on December 05, 2008, 03:47:36 AM

Thanks nynke!!

As the new moderator for the PSI board, I am more than happy to help people develop their ESAs' (Extra Sensory Abilities).

The last thing we need however is for this section to become one giant spam board of people claiming they regularly pick up houses with the power of their minds and throw them around, whip up savage storms, win the lotto every week and make themselves invisible all the time etc, using the power of their minds.

There is a lot of value to be gained in developing your extra sensory abilities, but we should all be realistic about what we wish to achieve and learn, or end up either being disappointed or living in a ficticious fantasy world within our own minds.


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Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 05, 2008, 12:50:57 PM
Thanks for the support :), I was already afraid some might get pissed off by hearing the truth.
Thats somewhat how I got myself banned.
And let's just say: " Been there,done that,never again "
I mean I was like it too, and I started a new school, turned 16,got an awesome new job working with horses 24/7 if it was me.
And it changed me dramatically, because for me working with horses is when you need your common sense most.
And my common sense was more like I hear a little pony saying my name, and I'm happy I don't have those things anymore.

But things like senses is what you can learn to increase, like feelings things comming and I think if you want to become a real psion/menatalist what ever you want to call is to develope those senses first.
Since they also stimulate your brain, because at psi you'r using a certain part in your brain, and that is diffrent to everybody.
But if you manage to find that place (could be by feeling tingly etc a certain feeling, or something that increases like your sight) then you can start on actually psychokinese,telekinese and telepathy.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: oldbill4823 on December 06, 2008, 01:11:04 AM
On the subject of real magic and a slight detour into the world of horses, have you ever seen Monty Roberts doing his stuff? That for me is just astonishing.

For those that dont know he can befriend wild stallions or wild deer to the point where they will follow him back to his ranch.

It might not be actual magic but it has the same feeling for me when I see it.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 06, 2008, 12:20:24 PM
On the subject of real magic and a slight detour into the world of horses, have you ever seen Monty Roberts doing his stuff? That for me is just astonishing.

For those that dont know he can befriend wild stallions or wild deer to the point where they will follow him back to his ranch.

It might not be actual magic but it has the same feeling for me when I see it.

Hun, that's just plain body language of a horse.
I can put my horse in a circle around me demanding it to every movement I want by just moving my shoulders.

In the wild the stallion lowers his head to make hes herd go faster and he ALWAYS walks at the back, so if I want my horse to move faster I'll stand in the back part of it's sight but still in the circle and bow down in my hip that is facing to him.
If I want my horse to slow down I make sure I'm at the front side of it's sight and move my hip that was facing off down.
Because in this case I'm the leading horse mare or stallion doesn't matter.

If 2 stallions fight they rear and then face their back to eachother and so on until one of them gives up that is just exactly what Monthy does.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: oldbill4823 on December 06, 2008, 12:31:15 PM
I still find it amazing though!

But maybe I've just got a thing about horses. I grew up in valleys where they have white horses carved into the hillsides. These things are thousands of years old. These things made deep impressions on the mind of an impressionable child.

What is magic to you anyway?
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 06, 2008, 12:39:05 PM
I still find it amazing though!

But maybe I've just got a thing about horses. I grew up in valleys where they have white horses carved into the hillsides. These things are thousands of years old. These things made deep impressions on the mind of an impressionable child.

What is magic to you anyway?

The paintings are probaly the Camargue horses found in south france, their born black or brown colored then turn white when they get older.
And to me magic is not Monty :P
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: oldbill4823 on December 06, 2008, 12:42:54 PM
If you Google 'uffington white horse', 'dragon hill', or 'wayland smithy' you can see the images there.

I am still interested as to what is magic for you though.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 06, 2008, 12:48:53 PM
I don't really believe in magic anymore, when I was youngh magic was to me making big fireballs etc. but now I don't really believe it anymore.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: oldbill4823 on December 06, 2008, 01:06:15 PM
So what about all the astral things you mentioned in the first post ?

Also, what about subjects like the psychokinesis you mentioned, and other things like dream sharing, prophesy, astral projection, life after death etc. In fact tons of really mysterious subjects.

Don't you have the same sense of wonder about these sorts of things or are they too like the fireballs of childhood?  Poof gone up in flames!
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 06, 2008, 01:09:57 PM
If that is magic to you, fine, but not to me.
For me it's just normal psi, and I only said that I was in there by living a fake lie thinking I could do some freaky stuff too.
But psi is not magic to me it never was.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: Regina Terra on December 06, 2008, 02:05:53 PM
Science/Magick

Psi/Astral

Different sides of the same coin y'all. :-)
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: Vivid777 on December 06, 2008, 08:39:15 PM

It definitely is the most important thing about developing your ESAs, working as much as you can on developing the 5 senses that we already have to our maximum potential, and their/our connection to nature and the natural world around us. The more honed our 5 senses are the easier it is to "open the door" into developing our sixth sense/ESAs/PSI abilities.

Without a solid grounding in the 5 senses we already have, we will "loose our footing" when it comes do developing the sixth sense within us all.

Good luck everyone, and there are plenty of question answer threads in this section if you have any questions or need advice on how to develop your PSI abilities further.

Thankyou!

Vivid
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 07, 2008, 09:05:17 AM
Yeah... only also keep in mind for the ones who are deaf or blind.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: Vivid777 on December 07, 2008, 01:29:53 PM

Yeah... only also keep in mind for the ones who are deaf or blind.


People naturally substitute and make up for a loss of one sense with an increase in their abilities with another.

Daef people learn how to read peoples lips for example, and do not rely on the sound of peoples voices to get a feel of their moods, with an increase in the ability to read peoples body language. And don't forget, Beethoven was comletely deaf when he wrote his last symphonies, yet they are just as beautiful, if not better than his earlier ones.

Blind people make up for this with increased touch (using the cane), have you ever tried to "feel" the shapes of brail? It is practically impossible for "normal" people, and use their hearing more effectively. Both blind and deaf people have incredible senses of smell that far surpass that of "normal" people.

These are examples of why the loss of a sense is not really a limitation as it results in vastly improved abilities in the others, this is especially true when it comes to developing the sixth sense/ESAs/PSI abilities. This also shows how underdeveloped most "normal" peoples 5 senses are and how much work, and therefore improvement, is not only possible, but indeed untapped within us all.

This is what I mean by saying working on improving the senses we have as much as possible. Do this and the doorway to the sixth sense becomes much closer and easier to open and then eventually pass through.

Vivid     (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gif)
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: oldbill4823 on December 07, 2008, 03:46:41 PM
If you distill the essence of what you are saying arn't you just talking about training to focus attention?
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: Vivid777 on December 07, 2008, 04:09:55 PM

If you distill the essence of what you are saying arn't you just talking about training to focus attention?

Yes, focussing your attention through your 5 senses and the better you get at this helps you to become more aware of your "sixth sense", so to speak.

Then it is a matter of learning to focus through that to increase your PSI abilities.


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Vivid
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: oldbill4823 on December 08, 2008, 12:36:37 AM
Ok, can you give us a concrete exercise?
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 08, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
Ok, can you give us a concrete exercise?

You can do it everywhere, try to focus on something to hear then focus on somethign to see etc. etc.
But best works if your forced to do so like ehm... working with animals really takes all your senses.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: MK-ULTRA on December 10, 2008, 12:20:53 AM

My suggestion would be a one week exercise.

Find somewhere natural as far away from humans as you can, even if it is just a nice quiet place in a park or if you have a nice garden or something like that. Do the best you can for where you are.

Then go there for 1 hour each day for 7 days, at the same time. Dusk is a good time as nature is going through its natural routine, birds singing and all of that. Then sit there and be silent for that whole hour, watching, listening and feeling intently on what is happening around you, concentrating as much as you can. Over those seven days you will notice patterns, the same birds doing their same routine, the sound of other animals, even dogs barking at similar times. You will feel the warmth of the sun change as it goes down, the breese getting cooler etc. Do this in a watchful state of meditation and you will start to notice amazing things, relationships in familys of birds, insect patterns, there will be many more things going on than you ever realised before.

During the seven days of doing this, go home to your room afterwards, lie down and meditate on everything that happened each day for an hour, going through as much of it all in your mind as you can.

Then on the 8th day, do the same thing, meditating in the same natural spot during the same hour. Afterwards, instead of going home and to your room to meditate on it, head straight into town or other place as crowded with people as you can.

After you have completed all of this and find yourself in a crowded place on the 8th day you will be absoluely amazed!

You will hear and see peoples thoughts, know what people will say befoire they say it, know what people will do before they do them. You will see a whole lot of human "animals" interacting in ways that even they do not realise. You will be practically bombarded with new sensations and feelings.

This will open the door to your ESPs.

It will feel like a revelation to you, and will only be the beginning of developing your PSI abilities in whichever way you want, preferably starting in the area that you notice the most at first, your natural strongest ability.

From there you can take things wherever and however far you like.


MK-ULTRA
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: 7VII7 on December 10, 2008, 02:49:18 PM
any chance you could change the color of your text MK? it hurts my eyes. . .
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 11, 2008, 01:19:36 PM
One week... it's a possebility, but I think it's more efefctive to do it slower, and keep repeating it.
Like your going to train your muscles for a week very intense, and then after that week you do nothign about it anymore then all your efford is gone.
So I think it's easier to start right away in a crowded area, since that is a place everybody can go too.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: MK-ULTRA on December 13, 2008, 05:52:38 PM

One week is the minimum ammount of time that you would need to start to notice the difference, and of course the longer you can keep it going the better! From my experience, just sending people into a crowded environment without any preperation at all, does not help a majority of people, as they do not notice any differerence to their normal lives at all. It is sort of like they are just doing the same things they normally do and are in the habit of not noticing anything more. Of course people that already have ESP skills that are well developed can go staight in. But for normal people they need to learn to connect with this first before they can notice any change.

All the best of luck to anyone who decides to work on connecting to your PSI skills in this way!!

MK-ULTRA
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 14, 2008, 07:33:05 AM
Ok ok, first off  :focus: because I started it by the fact of the fluff talk here and then.
Why not make a thread about it.
beside this I'm also missing the psiball part and how meditation affects the use of psi and the amount of psi you can use.
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: Raziel on December 14, 2008, 09:47:13 AM

Yeah... only also keep in mind for the ones who are deaf or blind.


People naturally substitute and make up for a loss of one sense with an increase in their abilities with another.

Daef people learn how to read peoples lips for example, and do not rely on the sound of peoples voices to get a feel of their moods, with an increase in the ability to read peoples body language. And don't forget, Beethoven was comletely deaf when he wrote his last symphonies, yet they are just as beautiful, if not better than his earlier ones.

Blind people make up for this with increased touch (using the cane), have you ever tried to "feel" the shapes of brail? It is practically impossible for "normal" people, and use their hearing more effectively. Both blind and deaf people have incredible senses of smell that far surpass that of "normal" people.

These are examples of why the loss of a sense is not really a limitation as it results in vastly improved abilities in the others, this is especially true when it comes to developing the sixth sense/ESAs/PSI abilities. This also shows how underdeveloped most "normal" peoples 5 senses are and how much work, and therefore improvement, is not only possible, but indeed untapped within us all.

This is what I mean by saying working on improving the senses we have as much as possible. Do this and the doorway to the sixth sense becomes much closer and easier to open and then eventually pass through.

Vivid     (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gif)



So............... how would a blind dog smell?
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: nynke on December 14, 2008, 01:23:56 PM
With his nose? and I thought I said  :focus:
Title: Re: Keep things real
Post by: 7VII7 on December 14, 2008, 03:05:27 PM
And the topic being not to fake it? I thought we've pretty much covered all that topic has to offer really. . .