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Title: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 11, 2006, 06:14:12 am
All who have read my topic "Believing" know that I might be having some Faery experiences. You have read that I have had dreams interacting with them, seeing them, and hearing them. I have the "7 pointed star" over my bed to help with the ones that are protecting me as far as I could tell, but last night it got rough, very rough. I went to bed at midnight after watching Family Guy. I'm laying in bed and the clock hits 12, I feel a strong pressence in the room, it was uncomfortible but not evil. I put my head under the covers to to be frightned. (something I have done sense I was very young.) I curled up into a balland the blankets puffed about me. I had music playing so I couldn't hear anything.

Then my body was gripped with the WORSTE fear I have ever had. I had a feeling of being watch. There was a weighto n the bed as if something was sitting on the bed next to me. The blankets around me were pushed down slowly onto my legs. I started to have a cold sweat. I turned off them music and started to say my prayers, hoping the pressence and the fear would go away, I said Our Father and Hail Mary, but nothing happened. After awhile the weight on the bed went away. But it didn't end their. I heard a soft mumbling from above me. As if someone were talking to another person. They spoke in a very strange langauge and I couldn't understand. Then I got a feeling as if tiny fingers were poking my legs. I twitched my feet and the poking stopped. More mumbling. I started to say very quitely; "In the name of Jesus Christ leave me alone!" The pressence felt like it backed up a bit. I then said "Jesus, Mary, God, any of you please help me." The pressence started to back away. But it didn't go away, I had to deal with this fear and pressence till I went to sleep. I woke up several times with a small feeling of being watched but I soon went back to sleep.

I woke up this morning TERRIFIED to get out of bed. I was scared to see ugly little men running away when I moved or something. (I didn't see this, was thinking I might though I was so scared and my brain is still out there.) I woke up only because I could tell my sister was outside the door. I ran out of bed and opened the door and asked my sister if I could get on to post these so I could get help ASAP.

They could be demons, but with all my Faery experiences and the way the didn't back down after saying prayers and names they could Goblins. Its a bit more likely since the seven pointed star is a "portal to the Otherwolds" according to folklore.

I know what I suffered last night wasn't sleep peralyse because I could move, talk, and twitch.

(Sorry for the terrible grammar, I'm tired and still a bit shacken. Please help me my friends I fear going back to bed tonight.)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 11, 2006, 07:42:51 am
it seems horseshoes and copper is supposed to keep away the dark fairies...you could also try leaving out milk, honey, bread or other...offerings.

if you've been working with them, have you been leaving tiny thank yous...it's said they don' t like being thanked for things they've done, but they do like a bit of treat, i'm not sure really it's been a long time since i've done anything with the wee folk.  part of the problem of losing touch with nature i think.   :)

i looked into my how to live with fairy folk by marina t. stern and she  mentions "surrounding yourself by friendly happy folk and treat them well, the folk are scrupulously just, by their own measure of justice and will not countenance mistreatments of their favorites"  so perhpas regaining contact with the friendly female you've had previous contact with my help...

when you attract the friendlier sort, they dark elves are rarely behind, from what i've read they are not hurtful, but do not like humanity for what's been done to their environment, but if they've been noticing other activity around you,  they are equally as curious s their less frightening counterparts..that could explain why they were poking you, if they are awfully curious, the fear comes from their dislike of humanity, (sort of the feeling you get when going into a dark basement or a deep polluted pond).  maybe they're just trying to figure out why their brighter brethren like you?...being a silly human living in their world. ;)

try making friends.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 11, 2006, 07:50:34 am
I have left out some candy and a thing of water and have said thank you in the past. But the thing that I felt sitting on my bed was definatly nota normal one. It had the diameter of maybe a backetball and had the hight of maybe two and a half feet. The ones I have seen are normally very small. The weight went away after I moved my legs a bit though.

I'll see if I can find any of the materials to keep them away from me while I sleep. I told my sister and she believes me, though she doesn't believe in Faeries. She even got the star and ripped it up. I also have heard noises coming from my room. Like digging around in stuff or flowing paper. Nothings wrong when I come in though.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 11, 2006, 10:23:39 am
I also got the feeling in the garage when getting a drink. We have a large section that we don't use that is filled with our olf furniture. The size of it is about the average bathroom. (Shower and sink.) And if you were about the size of a squirrel it would look like a series of tunnels and caves put away by all sunlight. (The window is blocked by a very large table and no sunlight reaches it unless we open the door or turn on the lights.

I didn't hear any talking but I got the same feeling I did last night and it wasn't because I was alone, my sister and mom were right outside the door in the kitchen. The feeling becomes stronger when I go near the closed off section.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 12, 2006, 08:25:32 am
Okay the problem seems to have turned down and stopped. I got some help via PM and got the supplies nessicary to stop them. I sprinkled salt around all exits in my room, put pennys around the bed and on the bed, and put a hunk of iron by my bed. I said my prayers, and slipped into the covers. I heard some quit whispers and a bit of poking but I said I wasn't afraid of them and everything stopped. The pressence left the room and I havn't seen or felt them at all today.

~Thanks for the help for those who did.
Title: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help)
Post by: Morticia on August 13, 2006, 07:00:38 am
Hi,

I'm sorry I was gone yesterday and wasn't here to offer help, but it seems as if things have quieted down for you right now.

I hope it stays that way, but I want you to remember how the 'presence' backed off when you called on God.

~Morticia
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 13, 2006, 07:45:20 am
I do, every time I see something in the corner of my eye. (It sometimes looks like a toad, but with some human feeatures and a bit hairy in places.) I stick my tounge out at them and tell them to leave me alone in the name of God or Jesus. They normally either back off or just turn around. My room is protected though because of all the things I've put in and they can't enter because of the salt. But I want to keep this unlocked because something might happen.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Weirdelicious on August 13, 2006, 09:48:01 am
Happens alot lately...gees... last night before bed I felt watched. I did not hear anything but the presence was strong... then I had weird dreams...
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 13, 2006, 10:00:18 am
Happens alot lately...gees... last night before bed I felt watched. I did not hear anything but the presence was strong... then I had weird dreams...

sometimes i miss that fear, it keeps you on edge and alert, but the dreams always seem to be there.  :-) 
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 13, 2006, 11:29:37 am
What kind of dreams? I have read that Goblins can make nightmares out of glossamar and cause dreams of being chased.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 07:55:38 am
Okay, they seem to have come back last night. They didn't bring the fear back but they were coming up on the bed and sitting on my legs and poking me from above the blankets and pushing the blankets over my head and just being annoying. When the preassure came over my legs I kicked my legs and they fell off, but they poked me back. I didn't here any talking, but I heard some hissing. This is odd, because all my items that are supposed to repel them are still here, but some of the pennys were on the floor. I was being kind to them before bed and talking to them politely and telling them when I was coming in and out of my room just to see if they were there and to see if I could possibly make peace. But then my back waas pinched very softly, but enough for me to cover the spot where it was and rub it.

I said my prayers to and out loud this time, but they did not back off and just poked me more. This time on my bed feeling how the preassure was there was more than one. (One at left hand corner near the window, one on my legs, and another by back.

What now should I do when iron, salt, and prayers can't keep them away from me?
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 15, 2006, 07:58:15 am
Okay, they seem to have come back last night. They didn't bring the fear back but they were coming up on the bed and sitting on my legs and poking me from above the blankets and pushing the blankets over my head and just being annoying. When the preassure came over my legs I kicked my legs and they fell off, but they poked me back. I didn't here any talking, but I heard some hissing. This is odd, because all my items that are supposed to repel them are still here, but some of the pennys were on the floor. I was being kind to them before bed and talking to them politely and telling them when I was coming in and out of my room just to see if they were there and to see if I could possibly make peace. But then my back waas pinched very softly, but enough for me to cover the spot where it was and rub it.

I said my prayers to and out loud this time, but they did not back off and just poked me more. This time on my bed feeling how the preassure was there was more than one. (One at left hand corner near the window, one on my legs, and another by back.

What now should I do when iron, salt, and prayers can't keep them away from me?

figure out where your strength is and use that to repell them, what have you done differently that they are no longer concerned with  you?
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Devious Viper on August 15, 2006, 08:02:26 am
Set up a camera and get some pics.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 15, 2006, 08:04:42 am
Set up a camera and get some pics.

oh yes, one through ten...;)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 08:07:13 am
Set up a camera and get some pics.

I don't think demons would show up on a camera, and if they are goblins they are invisble to the mortal eye and most other mortal tools.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 08:10:17 am
figure out where your strength is and use that to repell them, what have you done differently that they are no longer concerned with  you?

I've done everything, I even said I kicked them last night, but my strength won't work now, and I don't want to use spells to get rid of them because I'm not sure if thats against my faith. And if they are what I've been saying they are they won't leave me alone till they are forced to. I don't know what to do now.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 15, 2006, 08:32:37 am
Set up a camera and get some pics.

I don't think demons would show up on a camera, and if they are goblins they are invisble to the mortal eye and most other mortal tools.

actually demons do show up on camera, one would have to decipher what exactly a demon is, and there have been other fairy folk caught on film. 

do you think they're still goblins?

http://faerie.monstrous.com/fairy_powers.htm#_Toc524854171

how sweet, it seems to be from our own dear monstrous even.  ;)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Devious Viper on August 15, 2006, 09:09:19 am
I don't think demons would show up on a camera, and if they are goblins they are invisble to the mortal eye and most other mortal tools.

That's one helluva set of assumptions there. Stop and read what you have written and give it some thought.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 09:17:15 am
I didn't say they were goblins, I'm just thinking out loud of some supernatural *possiblities* there could be some kind of everyday possbilities... Want to give me some possbilities? *Note that Night time terrors is out of the question because I'm awake and I can move.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Morticia on August 15, 2006, 03:15:19 pm
I've done everything, I even said I kicked them last night, but my strength won't work now, and I don't want to use spells to get rid of them because I'm not sure if thats against my faith. And if they are what I've been saying they are they won't leave me alone till they are forced to. I don't know what to do now.

I put the words "my strength" in bold lettering because I believe that's where your problem lies.

You're attempting to fight something from a supernatural world with your own human limitations.

When are you going to give God this problem?  I don't mean chanting "Blood of Jesus" as if it's a spell.  You must be close to doing something that satan wants to keep you away from, and one of his tactics is fear.

Try REALLY giving it all to God.  Confess your sins to Him and ask Him for protection from whatever this evil is.  If I were you I'd get rid of any occult symbols, books, games, etc., anything you have around you that might be a welcome mat.

It seems you've tried some alternative methods such as pennies, protection spells, whatever.... what do you have to lose?

~Morticia
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 03:18:49 pm
I don't have any occult books, symbols, or games. Unless my mythology and Faery books are considered evil and occultish... But other than that I got rid of the seven pointed star whic hmight have been problems. I'll admit my sins to him tonight. (If I can think of any. o_O) and see what will happen. :|
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Phantom X on August 15, 2006, 03:25:58 pm
Obviously God isnt working. I suggest a pentacle (http://sacredgroves.druidry.org/obodsacredgroves/images/red%20pentacle.gif), invisioned around you and being powered by your beliefs (God, Gods, Satan, whomever), or psi sheild (http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=9).
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Morticia on August 15, 2006, 03:58:00 pm
Obviously God isnt working. I suggest a pentacle (http://sacredgroves.druidry.org/obodsacredgroves/images/red%20pentacle.gif), invisioned around you and being powered by your beliefs (God, Gods, Satan, whomever), or psi sheild (http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=9).

I can't help but strongly disagree, especially the part about the pentacle.

M Sidhe hasn't truly given Christian methods a chance, in my opinion. 

~MORTICIA
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 04:02:48 pm
I'm going to try Christian options first, and I will not use the pentacle, I see it as evil. And I'm a good Christian (at least I try) and will use my faith before resulting in any Pagan ways to make them go away. Even if these creatures are of pagan nature doesn't mean they need Pagan ways to get rid of them.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Weirdelicious on August 15, 2006, 04:04:35 pm
Oh yeah, pagans are sooooooooo evil...
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 04:06:13 pm
I'm not saying they are evil, I'm just saying that I don't want to go to the Pagan ways because its against my relgion.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 15, 2006, 04:10:16 pm
I'm going to try Christian options first, and I will not use the pentacle, I see it as evil. And I'm a good Christian (at least I try) and will use my faith before resulting in any Pagan ways to make them go away. Even if these creatures are of pagan nature doesn't mean they need Pagan ways to get rid of them.

not quite...

http://symbols.com/encyclopedia/27/2721.html

"· The plaited pentagram has been a protective sign against evil powers in the Western world and in Japan. It is found in the Nordic countries drawn on the doors of barns and storehouses to ward off trolls and to invoke the aid of protecting forces. Even the hexagram sometimes appears plaited. "

Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 04:12:24 pm
I still don't want to use it.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Morticia on August 15, 2006, 04:14:14 pm
Oh yeah, pagans are sooooooooo evil...

I know you are meaning to be 'funny sarcastic', but just in case anyone thinks I feel this way, I want to make it clear that I don't.

The pagans I have known in my life, both on-line and in real life, are some of the finest people you'd ever want to meet - would do anything to help another person, etc.

After the experiences I had myself in witchcraft and satanic forces stepping up in my life when I abandoned witchcraft, my first advice to anyone asking for help is heavily Christian based.  I realize that.

If anyone asking for help in this section doesn't want my advice, there are plenty of other viewpoints to choose from and try.

I'm simply doing the best I know to do.

~Morticia
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 15, 2006, 04:15:52 pm
I still don't want to use it.

i'm not saying you should, just pointing out that not all that's perceived as evil or a threat, is either...looking to other places to get you out of this solution will solve nothing, if you keep engaging them, allowing them to feast upon your energy and thrive.

heaven, hell or earth, they all need something for sustanence...so what is it they're thriving on?

even belief can generate energy...

Oh yeah, pagans are sooooooooo evil...

I know you are meaning to be 'funny sarcastic', but just in case anyone thinks I feel this way, I want to make it clear that I don't.

The pagans I have known in my life, both on-line and in real life, are some of the finest people you'd ever want to meet - would do anything to help another person, etc.

After the experiences I had myself in witchcraft and satanic forces stepping up in my life when I abandoned witchcraft, my first advice to anyone asking for help is heavily Christian based.  I realize that.

If anyone asking for help in this section doesn't want my advice, there are plenty of other viewpoints to choose from and try.

I'm simply doing the best I know to do.

~Morticia

your advice is perfect my dear.  :)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Devious Viper on August 15, 2006, 04:21:41 pm
The only "symbol" you'll find in my household

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/storm_dancer/MSEAL.jpg)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Weirdelicious on August 15, 2006, 04:25:26 pm
Oh yeah, pagans are sooooooooo evil...

I know you are meaning to be 'funny sarcastic', but just in case anyone thinks I feel this way, I want to make it clear that I don't.

The pagans I have known in my life, both on-line and in real life, are some of the finest people you'd ever want to meet - would do anything to help another person, etc.

After the experiences I had myself in witchcraft and satanic forces stepping up in my life when I abandoned witchcraft, my first advice to anyone asking for help is heavily Christian based.  I realize that.

If anyone asking for help in this section doesn't want my advice, there are plenty of other viewpoints to choose from and try.

I'm simply doing the best I know to do.

~Morticia

I respect your p.o.v and your fate Morticia. Sorry if I offended you, that was not my intention. I'm just saying that I'm sick of people that finds evil in other religions or practices that are not Christian. But I am happy to see that you are not one of them.  :wink: Sorry again if I offended you.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 15, 2006, 04:29:34 pm
Oh yeah, pagans are sooooooooo evil...

I know you are meaning to be 'funny sarcastic', but just in case anyone thinks I feel this way, I want to make it clear that I don't.

The pagans I have known in my life, both on-line and in real life, are some of the finest people you'd ever want to meet - would do anything to help another person, etc.

After the experiences I had myself in witchcraft and satanic forces stepping up in my life when I abandoned witchcraft, my first advice to anyone asking for help is heavily Christian based.  I realize that.

If anyone asking for help in this section doesn't want my advice, there are plenty of other viewpoints to choose from and try.

I'm simply doing the best I know to do.

~Morticia

I respect your p.o.v and your fate Morticia. Sorry if I offended you, that was not my intention. I'm just saying that I'm sick of people that finds evil in other religions or practices that are not Christian. But I am happy to see that you are not one of them.  :wink: Sorry again if I offended you.

some christians even find it in their own sects...don't take it personal, if the quakers did...they wouldn't be here today.  ;)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Phantom X on August 15, 2006, 04:36:29 pm
I still don't want to use it.

i'm not saying you should, just pointing out that not all that's perceived as evil or a threat, is either...looking to other places to get you out of this solution will solve nothing, if you keep engaging them, allowing them to feast upon your energy and thrive.

heaven, hell or earth, they all need something for sustanence...so what is it they're thriving on?

even belief can generate energy...


Well Said
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Devious Viper on August 15, 2006, 04:43:59 pm
I am firmly of the opinion that there is a much more rational explanation. I'm re-reading the entire thread while imbibing hot strong coffee and tugging my right earlobe. Helps me concentrate.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 15, 2006, 05:49:22 pm
Please do help me find a rational explanation, DV. I did jump to conclusions, but it'd be better to find a worldy cause and not otherworldly.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Morticia on August 16, 2006, 05:12:27 am
I am firmly of the opinion that there is a much more rational explanation. I'm re-reading the entire thread while imbibing hot strong coffee and tugging my right earlobe. Helps me concentrate.

It'll also give you one earlobe hanging lower than the other.

 :-D

Weirdelicious, you didn't offend me at all.  No need for apologies.  I just wanted to make it clear to anyone else reading the thread that I knew you were not being ugly to me, and I don't feel that way about pagans.  I used to be one, remember?

~Morticia
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 16, 2006, 06:38:27 am
I did what you said Morticia with the prayers and confess sins and nothing happened last night. A small weight came on my bed. (Smaller than the last ones.) and I just kicked the area and it went away, but thats about it.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 16, 2006, 08:33:09 am
well good than, keep it up, pay them no more attention and do not think about them anymore.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 16, 2006, 09:23:25 am
But like I had said that I see thing in the corner of my eyes. I think I know what these "things" look like. They are small with tanned skin. (Like a oriental colored skin.) Their flesh is wrinkley and mushy looking, there eyes are dark and slit like, their heads are mushed up with no noses and small mouth's, they have ears on the side of their head and have two fleshy horns on the top of their head. Their cloths are dark and cut off at the shoulders. Arms are small and skinny. Their body size is toad like in a way, with small legs and feet.

I got a good look at the face when sitting on my screen porch when my mom was talking I was looking into the kitchen window and a face as described above peered out at me and then backed away. I saw them in the corner of my eyes and saw on at the gym while in the pool. Am I imagining these or am I seeing something?

Of course, I'm sure their is a rational explantion, to much TV and reading? :|
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 16, 2006, 09:30:58 am
i don't know, but there's obviously something about you that attracts them, perhaps you have a powerful sense of belief that brings them in?
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 16, 2006, 09:49:03 am
Or my belief is making me see things.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 16, 2006, 09:59:54 am
Or my belief is making me see things.

or making you think you're seeing these things, using them to justify other unexplained situations going on.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Devious Viper on August 16, 2006, 10:01:58 am
That's an awful lot of detail for something caught out of the corner of your eye. Robbery victims stood staring at their assailants for a few minutes have recorded less detail than that. I still remain convinced that this is the result of your imagination, the amount of focusing you've been doing on the subject lately, and a hypnogogic state at night.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 16, 2006, 10:05:40 am
The face of the window I saw for 5 seconds in full sight, the one at the gym I saw for full vision, not the head. The ones in the corner of my eyes are how I can see the shape of them, and the height. But I can agree to the terms that this probably be my imaganation showing me these things. But I still want some kind of idea whats happening at night. (On a wordly base.)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 16, 2006, 10:10:09 am
growing pains?

they happen, twisted muscles, muscle spasms, some nights it feels like my bed is shaking..it's really not, i don't know what causes the sensation, its sort of like the falling and jerking in your bed, i get that sensation a lot too.

i've had it explained that all your muscles are relaxing at once.  *shrugs*

the mind is a funny thing when processing information it doesn't understand.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Weirdelicious on August 16, 2006, 10:14:41 am
I am firmly of the opinion that there is a much more rational explanation. I'm re-reading the entire thread while imbibing hot strong coffee and tugging my right earlobe. Helps me concentrate.

It'll also give you one earlobe hanging lower than the other.

 :-D

Weirdelicious, you didn't offend me at all.  No need for apologies.  I just wanted to make it clear to anyone else reading the thread that I knew you were not being ugly to me, and I don't feel that way about pagans.  I used to be one, remember?

~Morticia

Okay then! Yeah I remember. I can be snappy sometimes... (PMS was acting up!  :lol: ) Glad we cleared that up, because I like you. You are a nice person! You see, my maternal language is french so it's easy for me to misunderstand or miss the point of what I read. Same goes for what I write. Sometimes I don't use the right words to express what I mean to say... it's a pain in the... :roll:
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 16, 2006, 10:22:23 am
growing pains?

they happen, twisted muscles, muscle spasms, some nights it feels like my bed is shaking..it's really not, i don't know what causes the sensation, its sort of like the falling and jerking in your bed, i get that sensation a lot too.

i've had it explained that all your muscles are relaxing at once.  *shrugs*

the mind is a funny thing when processing information it doesn't understand.

Thats what was happening last night. My foot would twitch, and then a leg muscle would move up, but they were smaller so I was thinking thats might be what was causing it. Last night I was doing things to see if I might be doing it, and the muscle thing might be the answer to the poking, that leaves the weight on the bed, and the talking and laughing.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 16, 2006, 11:03:19 am
the talking and laughing, could be some sort of esp type of ability, i often times hear similiar stuff, usually deep bellowed advice or some words of wisdom, particualary shifting between wake and sleep, or fading in from dreams, i used to babysit a young boy who would consistently tell me he heard talking and laughing, i started playing a radio when i put him into bed, and he slept just fine.

not everything is so easy to explain...

Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Weirdelicious on August 16, 2006, 11:06:09 am
the talking and laughing, could be some sort of esp type of ability, i often times hear similiar stuff, usually deep bellowed advice or some words of wisdom, particualary shifting between wake and sleep, or fading in from dreams, i used to babysit a young boy who would consistently tell me he heard talking and laughing, i started playing a radio when i put him into bed, and he slept just fine.

not everything is so easy to explain...



You have that too? Sometimes I do get words of wisdom and chemical formulas or initials...
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 17, 2006, 07:29:46 am
i was once told to go check my emaill.   *<:)

i waited until morning, maybe i missed it?  there was nothing there!
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 22, 2006, 06:21:34 am
Last night they came back, and this was no muscle spasm and falling alseep voices. I was awake reading in my bed, when I saw movement by my door. I saw the creatures as described above looking past the door and underneath my chair by the door and when I saw them they ran off. I then started to hear the voices that I couldn't understand and hearing my name several times in the giberish. I held tight to my crucifix and tryed to ignore them, but I eventaully had to turn off my lights. Then at the end of my bed if heard the end creak and the matress shake like something was struggling to get ontop of the bed. I then felt a weight on the bed and the matress moving like someone was on it, the onlyway I can discribe the matress walking is like a cat walking on a bed on its hign legs. The metress was being poked from under the covers, because underneath my the blanket would poof up and down until it reached me.

I can't explain this one folks. :(
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 22, 2006, 08:11:31 am
at this point you have to figure out what's attracting them, as odd as it may sound, but not very since you've confirmed you want to look to christianity for tha answers, ask God if he can not make them leave you alone, if he could show you how to do so, or let you know what's bringing them in...pay attention to any curious inspiration or unusually vivid dreams you may have, it happens.  ;)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 22, 2006, 08:16:10 am
at this point you have to figurer out what's attracting them, as odd as it may sound, but not very since you'ce confirmed you want to look to christianity for tha answers, ask God if he can not make them leave you alone, if he could show you how to do so, or let you know what's bringing them in...pay attention to any curious inspiration or unusually vivid dreams you may have, it happens.  ;)

I've asked god for help, I've done most christian methods besides exsorism, which I can't go to because I don't want to tell my parents because they'll cut me off from all things that could help me. (Thinking I've been reading to much, or have been on these forums "to long" and its "effecting" the way I look at life.) So I can't do anything like that. I have admitted my sins, prayed, gotten closer to my relgion, used some banishment activity to make them go away and use a crucifix to help me. Yet they will not go down. I'm pretty sure they entered via the star I had in my room which is gone now. I just want to know how I can send them back so I can sleep well at night.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Weirdelicious on August 22, 2006, 08:18:42 am
Maybe you should try not believing in them, it may work! It worked for me once!
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 22, 2006, 08:21:37 am
But that would bring the nicer side of them to leave as well, in my belief if you stop believing they will leave you forever, and plus its kind of hard to stop believing after going to church and believing in angels and demons or ghost and goblins, Hobs and fae, the thing is I can't stop believing because I'm stuck with the belief and I can't and don't want to get rid of it, it keeps me going through life. My religion and belief keeps me from doing bad things.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Weirdelicious on August 22, 2006, 08:23:32 am
Well I'm affraid that we are all out of ideas...
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 22, 2006, 08:23:55 am
Super...
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Weirdelicious on August 22, 2006, 08:27:28 am
One last thing, this you try to ask them politely to stop messing with you?
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 22, 2006, 08:33:40 am
Oh my gosh... I just went in my room to get something and I looked at the floor where I saw them and leading to my bed are tiny pushes on the carpet like foot prints only 3 inches long! They're leading to my bed too. There are no other ones around my room, just where I saw them!
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 22, 2006, 08:36:52 am
at this point you have to figurer out what's attracting them, as odd as it may sound, but not very since you'ce confirmed you want to look to christianity for tha answers, ask God if he can not make them leave you alone, if he could show you how to do so, or let you know what's bringing them in...pay attention to any curious inspiration or unusually vivid dreams you may have, it happens.  ;)

I've asked god for help, I've done most christian methods besides exsorism, which I can't go to because I don't want to tell my parents because they'll cut me off from all things that could help me. (Thinking I've been reading to much, or have been on these forums "to long" and its "effecting" the way I look at life.) So I can't do anything like that. I have admitted my sins, prayed, gotten closer to my relgion, used some banishment activity to make them go away and use a crucifix to help me. Yet they will not go down. I'm pretty sure they entered via the star I had in my room which is gone now. I just want to know how I can send them back so I can sleep well at night.

not just ask him to make them go away, but ask him to show you why they're there or how you can make them go away...why are you using a crucifix, in my opinion God would already know your sins, maybe it's become more focusing on your religion, and not on Him?

ask for His help and guidance, those with the power over our lives seem to respond better to humble requests and honestly trying to do it for ourselves,  than asking them to do it for us...that applies to, both side of the fence.  ;)

you have two choices, stay guided by God, knowing he'll show you what you need to do or fight fire with fire.


here's some information on portals...maybe you can figure out where it's really at...if it was through the star, and the star is gone...

http://www.crystalinks.com/portals.html

here's something you'll need viper to understand..

http://www.osogd.org/library/rituals/PortalRitual.html

and then the classic, and always recommended by any occult practicioner...

http://home.earthlink.net/~lyam/PortalRitual.htm

Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 22, 2006, 08:39:36 am
But that would bring the nicer side of them to leave as well, in my belief if you stop believing they will leave you forever, and plus its kind of hard to stop believing after going to church and believing in angels and demons or ghost and goblins, Hobs and fae, the thing is I can't stop believing because I'm stuck with the belief and I can't and don't want to get rid of it, it keeps me going through life. My religion and belief keeps me from doing bad things.

i think we've discovered the root of your problem...being on a fence only confuses things.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 22, 2006, 08:41:22 am
I'm taking pictures to show you the prints, I'll have to use an art program for you to see them clearer.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 22, 2006, 10:09:26 am
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4168/picture001rm9.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3134/picture002tf3.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3298/picture003ay2.jpg

Sorry that you can't see them that well, but they are there.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 22, 2006, 10:15:33 am
Oh and the Seven Pointed Star (http://www.sacredspiral.com/Database/symbol/7pointedstar.gif) which I think started this problem. (A portal to the celtic otherworlds in mythology.)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Moloch on August 23, 2006, 10:19:33 pm
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Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 24, 2006, 05:34:12 am
I know no one else here is going to endorse my idea M Sidhe, but hear me out at least. If you can, send the little buggers my way. I'm not sure what they are but I'm sure I'm better equipped to handle it than most. My belief system revolves around the power of your own self and since I believe I'm among the most powerful beings (I know I know I'm SO full of it) then no goblin, dark elf or whatever is gonna buck to me. Send them my way if you can. If not and you can astrally project come find me. One way or another though we're gonna get this solved. Even if it means making me their target instead.

SoM

the concern there is insulting the more friendly wee folk, especially if they've chosen to foster a relationship.  It'd be like shooting your best friends drunk brother at your wedding.  besides, they're not harming him, just being obnoxious and rude.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Moloch on August 24, 2006, 09:25:57 am
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Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 24, 2006, 11:38:42 am
it'll work out, but possibly making them angrier won't do any good, until he knows exactly what they are.

what technique would you suggest he use to "send them away"?
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 24, 2006, 12:34:24 pm
No magick I hope. They have left me alone after I left out my bag of marshmellows and glass of water. So they seem like they are happy.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 24, 2006, 04:17:50 pm
No magick I hope. They have left me alone after I left out my bag of marshmellows and glass of water. So they seem like they are happy.

my dad used to leave a bowl of milk every night by our fireplace for the brownies...they'd help with the housework.  ;)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 24, 2006, 04:20:56 pm
Oh yes, and the water was gulped down, and the marshmellow bag was tied up strong and tight, not how I left it.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Phantom X on August 24, 2006, 06:06:00 pm
Perhaps if you spoke with them and told them it isnt acceptable to 'play' at night. Maybe then they will stop bothering you at night. Perhaps get them a doll house or something? Maybe they are trying to get your attention on something?
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Moloch on August 24, 2006, 09:52:44 pm
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Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 25, 2006, 01:28:29 am
Food and play? If that ends up being the solution to this then I need a different line of work. Oh wait, I don't make a living at this. That's good if I did I'd starve. Glad to see you're working it out on your own, M Sidhe. As for sending them away, I have no idea short of magic. Then again what I do isn't precisely magic either. Keep working on it M Sidhe, you're doing wonderfully.

Moloch

not everything is a demon.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Moloch on August 25, 2006, 10:11:54 am
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Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 25, 2006, 10:29:18 am
perhaps that's why you've been brought here, to learn other worlds...many are really quite delightful to deal with, once you understand the influence they have in your life. 
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 25, 2006, 12:41:53 pm
If your interested in my line of work on otherwordly things I'd be happy to fill it out, and I slept wonderfuly last night. I had a good feeling and I fell right asleep.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 25, 2006, 01:28:11 pm
yay m sidhe!
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Dark Lord M on August 26, 2006, 06:34:16 am
That leaves me to look at the other mysteries I'm going through. I guess MODs can lock this now. :)
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Moloch on August 26, 2006, 10:20:04 am
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Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Morticia on August 26, 2006, 11:08:30 am
That leaves me to look at the other mysteries I'm going through. I guess MODs can lock this now. :)

It's a good thread - somebody else might want to say something.

~Morticia
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: jordyn on August 26, 2006, 11:35:23 am
it's a common issue too...a lot of people have issues when they sleep that can be difficult to work through.
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Moloch on August 26, 2006, 10:58:48 pm
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Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: cthon98 on August 31, 2006, 12:34:27 pm
I can lucid dream really well, so I love sleeping, it brings me something new to play with every night.

On the topic of these pixies and such, maybe they were poking and prodding you to prompt you to leave them out some treats or something. The friendly ones hanging around you drew the attention of the "darker" (I use the term loosely, and only relative to the nice ones) ones, who decided they would poke you until you tried to find a way to appease them.

Should such things ever find their way to me (though I'd prefer just the friendly ones, I have horrible insomnia as it is) then I have a bottle of mudslide they're welcome to :P
Title: Re: Midnight Sleep and Talking (Help.)
Post by: Moloch on August 31, 2006, 10:45:09 pm
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