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Monstrous Café => Say It! => Topic started by: M Sidhe on March 06, 2007, 01:57:31 PM
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Does anyone want to share family crests? It doesn't have to be direct. Here's my Irish and Scottish family crest.
(http://www.aristocratgolf.co.uk/Cunningham_Crest.jpg)
Cunningham, Scottish.
(http://www.ancientworlds.net/aworlds_media/ibase_1/00/02/64/00026442_000.jpg)
Quinn, Ireland.
The motto to the family is "I wish to see heavenly things"
My main family is Anglo Saxon and they orignated in Britian, but I don't want to say my real last name...
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I'd post my coat of arms, but it's difficult to find a free site with a good image that I could post. I hail from quite a few families, but the closest to me are the East Clan, the Wallace Clan, and the Stewart Clan.
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Well, the line of decent that I mentioned above was Scotland's most famous aristocracy.
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I sadly don't seem to have any royal blood that has been traced. I'm related to farmers near the Black Forest and millers, I believe, and though someone in my line might have a crest (German, French, or Italian) I don't think I'll ever be able to find it. Almost makes me sad I have no relatives from the UK.
EDIT: So,apparently there is no such thing as a crest for an entire family, but just for individuals? Still, it would be cool to look up which your ancestor was awarded.
http://www.fleurdelis.com/nofamilycrest.htm
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http://www.wishart.org/armscrest.html
my ancestor david wishart came over from glasgow, scotland as a presbyterian bible teacher early in the 1900's; and pioneered all the way across the nation to come to montana and helped build the first presbyterian church in my town, having homesteaded next to some french trappers...at one point before the depression, my family owned acres of this area
but there are so many david, william and charles wisharts, it's hard to know specifically what wishart He came from, but i am currently seeking that information.
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Yo guys should do what I do. Type your family name into google, like for example, Cunningham Family Crest, or Cunningham family, Cunningham crest. You normally get something, easy as pie.
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It's not so easy for East and that's the interesting crest. If you can do it though and have success, let me know. I tried doing it for that one.
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Here is the Wallace (one version, at least):
(http://www.fleurdelis.com/graphics/wallace.gif)
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he is one of mine, it is the bestest in all of Ukraine
(http://commons.uncyclomedia.org/images/thumb/1/1b/Coat-of-arms-Romania.jpg/180px-Coat-of-arms-)
the motto is "may thy neighbors goat drop dead, too"
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Lovely.
I had to remove the Stewart one since it was from a tripod site. They don't really like hotlinking, it seems.
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Robigus, is it like William Wallace? (if so I do know the real William Wallace, not the Mel Gibbson one though I love the movie.)
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Yes, that Wallace. I'm a near direct descendant.
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Impressive. I'm sure more people have heard of him than Conn of 100 Battles. :|
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Mel Gibson has the ability to do that. :-P
Honestly, he's not as important a figure as some of the other people such as Robert Bruce.
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Wallace did get the Scottish more freedom from the British. I think it was somewhere in the 1900's...
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That is true, but so did much of the Scotch (versus Scottish) aristocracy.
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i worked with a scotsman, he was the most amazing man...i never knew there were so many ways the term "fantastic" could be used for everything from expressing joy to exasperation, his chest pounding moment was when talking about how scotland was the one area never conquered by the romans and then going into an elaborate story about the missing roman legion...
he ended up going back to scotland to be trained as a teacher, but the irish still have my heart.
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I am Scottish, Irish, and British. I'm basically everything but Welsh from the British Isles. I like my personal quote "Born in American, soul in the British Ilses."
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It has become a fashion for Americans to claim some French roots ;-) Moloch does not escape the rule. It is something I have trouble understanding as our country has probably become the most decadent of Europe, having lost most of its set of core values ... So I am thinking that is derived from some attraction for the fifth and perversion in the same way Anne Rice selected France as a land of vampires (there was very few vampire cases... France was mostly preoccupied with werewolves ...).
Of course, you are encouraged to discuss in French on the Monstrous Forum.
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M, if your soul is truly of the Isles, then you'd best be watchin' those "-ish"s. Fer one thing, the Scots are not "Scottish" (unless they side with the oppressive English dogs). Same goes with those from Ireland. They're the Sons of Eire, or Erin, not Irish. As for the term British, that covers all the Isles, not just England, if I see yer meaning quite right.
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In books written by the Irish and the Scottish they always call themselves that. In fact, I've never heard that before, but thanks for the heads up.
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Unfortunately, I've forgotten the little French that I learned (mostly: "How are you?" "I'm okay." "Do you like pizza?" "No, I like fries."), so I don't think you'd like to hear me attempt to discuss in French, Loki. :wink:
I've actually found it very difficult to learn about my French heritage, unfortunately. There seems to be very few records we can find. Also, it's considered racist to offer groups to teach about the history and culture of "white people", so I can't even learn about my European roots in school minus taking a French/Italian/German class. I really wish I could learn more about where I came from so I *could* take pride in my various ancestory.
As far as all that stuff over in the UK...I've long since given up trying to understand it. I figure if I ever go over there someone will correct me, and hopefully not with a club over the head! :lol:
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Dun mind me, I'm just stuck within the deep roots of my family's traditions. You can understand that there's still great hatred of the English from some of the groups. The distinction beween British and English should still probably be made though, since it is a set versus a subset.
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Actually Loki, I don't make a claim to French roots as I have them, in abundance. My family hails from Maine, before that, Quebec and other areas of Eastern Canada, and before that, France itself.
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It has become a fashion for Americans to claim some French roots ;-) Moloch does not escape the rule. It is something I have trouble understanding as our country has probably become the most decadent of Europe, having lost most of its set of core values ... So I am thinking that is derived from some attraction for the fifth and perversion in the same way Anne Rice selected France as a land of vampires (there was very few vampire cases... France was mostly preoccupied with werewolves ...).
Of course, you are encouraged to discuss in French on the Monstrous Forum.
do french canadian trappers from the novia scotia area count?
i've been researching my family trees, don't get me going on the polish/bohemian side. ;)
Dun mind me, I'm just stuck within the deep roots of my family's traditions. You can understand that there's still great hatred of the English from some of the groups. The distinction beween British and English should still probably be made though, since it is a set versus a subset.
i've had discussions about this, it reminds me of the north versus south sentiments that still linger, as i've become fond of saying, i'm a yankee on both sides of the ocean. It didn't really have an impact until i lived in florida and had a lady go off on me about the *string of bad words* yankees messing things up, blah, blah, blah.." over a video store policy.
i was shocked actually, she didn't realize i was a "yankee" i just thanked her, gave her her change and told her to have a nice day, but to have actually seen that sort of sentiment in america, still?
it all goes back to sociology and humanities i suppose? ;)
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I found mine. I didn't even realize that mine was available on the internet until I read this thread and decided to look for it. Interesting.
(http://gillan.coopster.net/gillancrest.gif)
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Are you sure all the coats of arms are high class, like royalty? The coat of Arms I found for Brault was a fist and the one for my husband was 6 open pea or bean pods. Before we found them, I kiddingly told him he's decendant from English bean farmers. About French people, my Mother was a Joubert, we trace from Northern NY to Trois-reviere Quebec and then France on that side. Those French came over in the 1600s. Jouberts are all over the world and in French text books. But I haven't found a coat of arms yet. What Brault is, is debated. Thanks for the info about how to Google a coat of arms. Maybe Joubert will be there.
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Loki, what do you mean filth and France? Be nice, everywhere has good and bad. Ever been to France? I have. There is good and bad there like everywhere else. TAke care
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(http://www.irishsurnames.com/coatsofarms/w/ward.gif)
apparently this is mine lol never seen it before
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Loki,
I think the French root thing may just come from our mixed blood lines. I used to think we were Irish and German, but my mother has been doing the whole geneology thing and it turns out we're muts. Italy, France, Austria, Germany, Wales, Ireland, England and Scotland are the lands that my family came from. Most settled in western Pennsylvania and West Virginia as coal miners. Not that I'm ashamed of having French roots, it's just that they are one of many. I would bet that most Americans that are 3rd generation or more have similiar backgrounds.
It is encouraging to see someone else notice the failings of there homeland. I've been accused of being anti-american for some of my statements, I'm glad that youu have the guts to say what you think about your country.
ZRY
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I believe the challenge is eventually to find the place where we feel home ... maybe not a question of frontiers and nationalities ...