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Monstrous Café => Mayday! Mayday! => Topic started by: Thirteen on November 21, 2011, 05:42:44 AM

Title: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: Thirteen on November 21, 2011, 05:42:44 AM
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My girlfriend said she saw a shadowy creature in the room after I fell asleep.

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I'm having a hard time putting together sentences right now. Excuse my lack of fluency.

I'm afraid.

I can't remember all of last night. My girlfriend told me I was talking non-stop gibberish. I asked her if my voice was different (knowing that I had previous experiences with voice changes when my personality switched), she recalled my voice being that of a child's.

This has happened before, but this time it was different - I have foggy memories of last night - almost as if I wasn't present for it at all.

This morning I didn't feel myself either, but I was still present.

I then felt a pressure on my shoulders and back and I felt my body began to twist and contort. In reality, I'm not sure if I was moving at all.

I got severely cold and began to fear there was a demon abound. I took hold of a quartz crystal and smoked up the room with protecting incense. When I sat in lotus position and traveled to my astral temple, the area was disturbed, in a way that was eerie.. and unnerving.

I'm not sure what happened at all. I'm foggy and I feel lost.

I have fears something very bad is going to happen.

Asking your help,
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Title: Re: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: jordyn on November 21, 2011, 09:28:30 AM
These things are rarely uninvited and with the generalized experiences you offered, night terrors and other sleep disorders can be easily inferred.

what started this to happen?
Title: Re: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: Thirteen on November 22, 2011, 10:46:16 AM
This happened two nights ago and into yesterday morning.

There have been disturbances like these before.

But this is very urgent. I need help.
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: Jake on November 22, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
Nobody here can "help" you - this is the internet. Make an urgent appointment to see your family doctor. If this is not soon enough, visit your local emergency department. There, professionals will be able to evaluate you and rule out any underlying physiological cause.  If you are concerned that there is someone or something in your house, telephone the police and ask them to check for an intruder.

Having done those things, feel free to come back here if they all check out negative.
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: Thirteen on November 23, 2011, 06:19:47 AM
I'll let the Mods handle you, Imp.
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: Nina on November 23, 2011, 09:54:05 AM
I'll let the Mods handle you, Imp.

Actually, Jake here gave you quite good and firm advises to start with.

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I can't remember all of last night. My girlfriend told me I was talking non-stop gibberish. I asked her if my voice was different (knowing that I had previous experiences with voice changes when my personality switched), she recalled my voice being that of a child's.

Talking in sleep is quite often. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somniloquy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somniloquy)

 Same as voice changing with mood. http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0716-97602008000400004 (http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0716-97602008000400004)

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My girlfriend said she saw a shadowy creature in the room after I fell asleep.

Still that doesnt have to mean that there actually WAS a shadow there. You gotta be more clear on info. Did you tell her about your suspicions before that? Share your eerie feelings?

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I got severely cold and began to fear there was a demon abound. I took hold of a quartz crystal and smoked up the room with protecting incense. When I sat in lotus position and traveled to my astral temple, the area was disturbed, in a way that was eerie.. and unnerving.

Again, all of this could imply other issues asides of demonic. Thus I think Jake gave you a few of good advises. Did you check more mundane causes first, or thought of "demonic" one before all?


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I'm not sure what happened at all. I'm foggy and I feel lost.

Exactly why we need more info. Like, what started this? What did you do that was out of the ordinary? This things, if indeed demonic, wouldnt start on its own.

It is not that no one here wont help you or doesnt wanna help you. We just need more information.
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: Thirteen on November 24, 2011, 04:59:31 AM
I would like to clearly state that I would not pounce to a forum such as this (especially in the Mayday section) if I did not check all sources and rule out all options beforehand.

Nevertheless, I apologize for not posting more information. No need for someone to judgmentally jump on my case about my mental health. May I add, in such a rude manner. The points he made were obvious and unnecessary.

Furthermore, I was in a rush to post this - knowing - that someone would be there to offer help.


Talking in sleep is quite often. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somniloquy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somniloquy)

 Same as voice changing with mood. http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0716-97602008000400004 (http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0716-97602008000400004)

The thing is, I wasn't talking in my sleep. I was awake and talking. Sitting up, talking. I wouldn't doubt that this has to matter in what happened, but all I'm saying is I was in a different state of mind.

As you can see, I was speaking in the voice of a child, subconsciously meaning I was feeling submissive. This is my educated guess.

Still that doesnt have to mean that there actually WAS a shadow there. You gotta be more clear on info. Did you tell her about your suspicions before that? Share your eerie feelings?

I agree that there's a possibility that it wasn't there, but she knows of my dabbling in the supernatural - and occult. Her feelings were portrayed even better than mine were. She expressed her fear - and I know she has negative energy that would attract these creatures.

I don't doubt that it could be a trick of the eye, but with all of the other evidence prominent.. it seems as though our shared feelings shouldn't go unnoticed.

Exactly why we need more info. Like, what started this? What did you do that was out of the ordinary? This things, if indeed demonic, wouldnt start on its own

Again, I'm aware that these accounts don't just happen out of the blue. There are plenty of reasons - on my case - that these negative beings would become present to me (or her).

To be blunt, I have had contact with demons before. Lesser and greater. Usually I can ward off the lesser, they want nothing other than than trouble. I have close-knit contact with a superior demon - he never revealed his name to me, but goes by the title of 14. I have been punished by dark spirits before. As well, as given prosperity. My release of this information will get me into a s**t ton of trouble.

I was hesitant to disclose this information. But if it helps with figuring out what could've entered my astral temple and why, I'd be much obliged.
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: Jake on November 24, 2011, 06:12:32 AM
I apologise if my brusque nature offended you. I tend to speak in sharp, prickly sentences. However, I wasn't being judgmental, or intentionally "rude" and I never used the word "psychological". I said "PHYSIOlogical" - the mechanical, physical, and biochemical functions of the human body. Reason why? You listed enough cards for a winning hand in a game of Who's Got A Brain Tumor? Look it up if you don't believe me.
Problem with cognition? Check.
Problem with short term memory? Check.
Inability to concentrate or find the right words? Check.
Involuntary change in muscle control and/or sensation? Check.
"Spaced-out" feeling? Check.
General confusion? Check.
Change in speech? Check.

Sudden onset of these symptoms is an emergency - you should go to the ER and make sure there's nothing underlying that is causing this. Even if you only notice a gradual change over time, you should still report it to your doctor. In worst case scenarios, a delay of a month in starting treatment can make a major impact on the outcome.

When people suggest mysterious symptoms, any responsible person advises them to rule out the obvious, not offers some equally mysterious cause for them. When I hear something go bump in the night, I go check if my kid has fallen out of bed, not reach for the bible and crucifix.

I didn't pluck those things out of the air, they really are the symptoms that set alarm bells ringing. Even if you don't agree with the things I've said, my conscience would be eased if you at least told your family doctor that you'd had some problems with concentration etc. I say this not in an attempt to mock you in any way, just out of concern.
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: Nina on November 24, 2011, 08:29:11 AM
Could you please rewrite your post to make it look less hostile?  :roll:

thank you  :wink:
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: AWBrielle on November 24, 2011, 10:46:49 AM
Could you please rewrite your post to make it look less hostile?  :roll:

thank you  :wink:

Agreed. Both of you (Jake & Thirteen). Thanks!
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: ravinclaw on November 28, 2011, 04:58:36 AM
I will agree that the first step in any case where one has had an experiance where their personality or voice has changed and or memory loss should first see a doctor, even if the one experiancing these things knows on the deapest level it is an outside force. Reasons being, on many ocasions it is not. And if it is in fact paranormal, no one with any credibility will ever be able to say for sure it IS, untill all other posibilities are ruled out.   But I would say you can discard that bit of advice claiming "help cant be had over the enternet" .... odviously, help most often comes first in the form of knowledge.... No nead to go further on that subject.

Now, Thirteen, avoid astral travel for now. Document any strange things that may happen. Video, audio, what ever you may have. If anything further happens let us know. And if you feal the nead you are welcome to pm me, and I will take a closer look at the situation if you wish. Though time is of value as of late, I will get back to you soon as I can.
Title: Re: URGENT!: Something Inside of Me/Astral Temple Disturbed
Post by: jordyn on December 07, 2011, 12:10:18 PM
I would like to clearly state that I would not pounce to a forum such as this (especially in the Mayday section) if I did not check all sources and rule out all options beforehand.

Nevertheless, I apologize for not posting more information. No need for someone to judgmentally jump on my case about my mental health. May I add, in such a rude manner. The points he made were obvious and unnecessary.

Furthermore, I was in a rush to post this - knowing - that someone would be there to offer help.


Talking in sleep is quite often. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somniloquy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somniloquy)

 Same as voice changing with mood. http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0716-97602008000400004 (http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0716-97602008000400004)

The thing is, I wasn't talking in my sleep. I was awake and talking. Sitting up, talking. I wouldn't doubt that this has to matter in what happened, but all I'm saying is I was in a different state of mind.

As you can see, I was speaking in the voice of a child, subconsciously meaning I was feeling submissive. This is my educated guess.

Still that doesnt have to mean that there actually WAS a shadow there. You gotta be more clear on info. Did you tell her about your suspicions before that? Share your eerie feelings?

I agree that there's a possibility that it wasn't there, but she knows of my dabbling in the supernatural - and occult. Her feelings were portrayed even better than mine were. She expressed her fear - and I know she has negative energy that would attract these creatures.

I don't doubt that it could be a trick of the eye, but with all of the other evidence prominent.. it seems as though our shared feelings shouldn't go unnoticed.

Exactly why we need more info. Like, what started this? What did you do that was out of the ordinary? This things, if indeed demonic, wouldnt start on its own

Again, I'm aware that these accounts don't just happen out of the blue. There are plenty of reasons - on my case - that these negative beings would become present to me (or her).

To be blunt, I have had contact with demons before. Lesser and greater. Usually I can ward off the lesser, they want nothing other than than trouble. I have close-knit contact with a superior demon - he never revealed his name to me, but goes by the title of 14. I have been punished by dark spirits before. As well, as given prosperity. My release of this information will get me into a s**t ton of trouble.

I was hesitant to disclose this information. But if it helps with figuring out what could've entered my astral temple and why, I'd be much obliged.

if you called them, you can send them away...it's not easy but if you're stronger then it's not a problem, just a lot of self introspection and reflection as to what keeps attracting those energies to you, what you need in your life to counter their influence and why they now overpower you so easily...parlor tricks and dreams are their specialty, reality and the power of will is ours.

which ultimately has more power?