[Dreamer]

This happened nearly 2 years ago. But I just wanted to share with you.

My uncle. Who had a pain in his side of his body, near liver. He went to the hospital, they checked my uncle. They took an X-Ray, guess what did they find. An Stanless-Steel Rod, but it's very thin, nearly in less then 0.3 CM diameter, but 7 cm long.

It wasn't in any of the digestive part of my uncle. So, it wasn't through mouth, even if it is through mouth, my uncle would've noticed in the food, or while it is inside the mouth. Made the surgery for the it's removal and all done.

Next, my uncle checked his bedroom. He found small bird's head(Bird but not a domestic bird) and  small paper with it being empty but a sign of burns in the middle of the paper underneath his pellow.

If any one is willing to tell me what the hell happened, it will be appreciated. And thanks beforehand.

[Stella]

Could be, to me it does sound like black magic, animal bones, paper, hidden within a persons belongings.

But I'm also pretty sure there's a logical explanation for it, well, at least I hope.

[MrMystery]

Most likely black magic. If what you say is true, i am sure of it around 60%.

[Muerte]

  I would like to know the Doctors explanation about how it got there first.

[matthew321]

Well I will admit the way you portray it does make it sound like black magic.

How old is your uncle? What was his job? Any past jobs related to religion, police, or anything that might be connected to this? Did he have any odd acquaintances? Did he own any odd objects? Was he very spiritual?

What does he think?

[Levinthross]

ive heard of some old school witchraft from italy?spain were witches had the ability to make odd objects appear within there enemies body and even make them throw up things like frogs and pins you might wanna check the mystica

[Dreamer]

After a while eh?

But I have concluded that this is my uncles wife Vendetta against him.

Though she is a Muslim Shiite at birth, but I highly think that she is a Zor'dashti(Zoroastrian) and
As you know, one of the most countries that uses witchcraft here in Middle-East is Yemen, Egypt and Iran.

She traveled back and forth between Iran and Kuwait(where I live).

And I think my uncle is bewitched or something, my uncle acts way too strange past 3 years, he obeys every single thing his wife and his children says to him to do.

But we used Qur'an as a remedy, he is fine and himself, a little bit.

BTW, he is 57 and works as a Car Accident Detective.

[Muerte]

After a while eh?

But I have concluded that this is my uncles wife Vendetta against him.

Though she is a Muslim Shiite at birth, but I highly think that she is a Zor'dashti(Zoroastrian) and
As you know, one of the most countries that uses witchcraft here in Middle-East is Yemen, Egypt and Iran.

She traveled back and forth between Iran and Kuwait(where I live).

And I think my uncle is bewitched or something, my uncle acts way too strange past 3 years, he obeys every single thing his wife and his children says to him to do.

But we used Qur'an as a remedy, he is fine and himself, a little bit.

BTW, he is 57 and works as a Car Accident Detective.

  Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the obedience thing supposed to go the other way in your neck of the woods.  Strange, very strange indeed.

[Dreamer]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the obedience thing supposed to go the other way in your neck of the woods.  Strange, very strange indeed.

I don't get you man "n your neck of the woods" is strange to me.

[Muerte]

  "In your neck of the woods" simple means the place you are from, and since you are from the Middle East I have to assume you are Muslim.  To my knowledge, in the Muslim culture women do what they are told and not the other way around.  As I said, correct me if I am wrong.

[joannski3]

ive heard of some old school witchraft from italy?spain were witches had the ability to make odd objects appear within there enemies body and even make them throw up things like frogs and pins you might wanna check the mystica

That happens in traditional hoodoo, too.  Its called "live things in you"

[joannski3]

BTW, he is 57 and works as a Car Accident Detective.

So it wouldnt be unusual for him to be around sharp metal objects from the scene of a crime.  I'm not saying that it can't happen, but sticking pins in someone is usually done in ATR's (African Traditional Religions) but in the New World with of course poppets, commonly known as Voodoo dolls.  However, the pins are used as a tool for focusing, and are not always used for negativity.  Dolls occur all over the world, but the using of pins on a doll to use on a person is more commonly found in  Voodoo and other ATR based religions in the New World.  Focusing pins though isn't always used for negativity, either.  Its also not used to "stick" the person.  What you are doing is using the pin to focus your concentration/intent to transfer to your target. 

What did the doctor say it was from?  What evidence do you have that it was his wife?  I certainly believe in spirit and the occult and use it in my day to day life, but I think its good to try and be rational and look at every perspective.  I think people are sometimes too quick to get hysterical and blame something supernatural before looking at the mundane.  And then people get so fixated on a fantasy, they won't even listen to a rational explanation. 

I'd just like to hear more about it and the reasons why you believe it was dark magic and what your uncle actually believes.  Why would his wife cast a spell to make his kids boss him around?  Wouldn't she want to be the boss if that was her intent?  Plus, Zoroastrianism, its Persian.  Is his wife from Yemen and Egypt??  Or did I misunderstand the reference?  Plus Zoroastrianism is very ancient, but not a religion of "Black Magic".  It shares a lot of Vedic qualities, and although they do incorporate demonology into their religion, so does Catholicism and Christianity, and Judaism, and even Islam (Djinns).

 

[Dreamer]

BTW, he is 57 and works as a Car Accident Detective.

So it wouldnt be unusual for him to be around sharp metal objects from the scene of a crime.  I'm not saying that it can't happen, but sticking pins in someone is usually done in ATR's (African Traditional Religions) but in the New World with of course poppets, commonly known as Voodoo dolls.  However, the pins are used as a tool for focusing, and are not always used for negativity.  Dolls occur all over the world, but the using of pins on a doll to use on a person is more commonly found in  Voodoo and other ATR based religions in the New World.  Focusing pins though isn't always used for negativity, either.  Its also not used to "stick" the person.  What you are doing is using the pin to focus your concentration/intent to transfer to your target. 

What did the doctor say it was from?  What evidence do you have that it was his wife?  I certainly believe in spirit and the occult and use it in my day to day life, but I think its good to try and be rational and look at every perspective.  I think people are sometimes too quick to get hysterical and blame something supernatural before looking at the mundane.  And then people get so fixated on a fantasy, they won't even listen to a rational explanation. 

I'd just like to hear more about it and the reasons why you believe it was dark magic and what your uncle actually believes.  Why would his wife cast a spell to make his kids boss him around?  Wouldn't she want to be the boss if that was her intent?  Plus, Zoroastrianism, its Persian.  Is his wife from Yemen and Egypt??  Or did I misunderstand the reference?  Plus Zoroastrianism is very ancient, but not a religion of "Black Magic".  It shares a lot of Vedic qualities, and although they do incorporate demonology into their religion, so does Catholicism and Christianity, and Judaism, and even Islam (Djinns).

Yemen and Egypt?!!???!! If that was the case, and my family members of the same, then I would've committed suicide.

No, She is from Iran, but as a Muslim s**tte, but not truly authenticated on that, I saw mu uncle phone, he was pleading for something(they were angry) while the wife was badnamming Allah and Mohamed on the phone reply messages(That what gave me the Idea of the Zoarest and magic). She was going to and fro from Iran and Kuwait(where I live)

And I am from Baluchistan(pronounced, Below-chest-tan) and an ethnic Group of Baluch(or Blosh in arabic), from the Rind Clan.
But my Uncles is Kuwaiti, while I have the Pakistani and Irani passport(one day, we will have our own)

Okay, now I am telling my whole life story.

He is a pencil pusher in the Job, just fulfilling the records and stuff, not really going into the crime scene and doing CSI actions.

The doctors have no Explanation on what the cause and how it went there.

But the Bird head and an empty script that have a burned out symbols really intrigues me on the subject.

Also like to have a scientific explanations on such phenomenon rather then blind faith on Invisble dragons, if you look into some of my other posts, you will see what I mean.

[jordyn]

wow, impressive magic making a steel rod appear beneath human flesh...but i'm a free will sort of girl and don't believe things can happen to a person against their will.  There are a lot of stories about people who find strange things in their body that don't belong there and they don't know where they came from, aliens seem to be a more common explanation.

if you figure out the magic it came from then you'll know what did it but if magic is a source from the mind i'd be concerned about a mind with that power. 

[Levinthross]

ive heard of some old school witchraft from italy?spain were witches had the ability to make odd objects appear within there enemies body and even make them throw up things like frogs and pins you might wanna check the mystica

That happens in traditional hoodoo, too.  Its called "live things in you"

i'm quite sure verging on utter absoluteness that such magic is european in origin in traditional hooodoo live things in you is usually referring to a type of hex in of which a practitioner has managed to get small spirits or creatures to live inside of you not in animate objects, always something alive and usually a insect or arachnid sometimes snakes or parasites. Secondly within hoodoo practition sticking needles in dolls or poppets as in more common european magic is only used as a symbolic tool for directing energies and ones intention never to actually cause the appearance of  needles within human flesh.
from many voodooist point of you that wouldnt seem very practical and would be quite difficult to get a mass of unliving solid objects into someones system. I checked the mystica and while the name for this form of paranormal incidence eludes me at the time it was said to be a symptom of posession