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Apocalypse Soon => Religions, Cults & Sects => Topic started by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 01:28:45 PM

Title: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 01:28:45 PM
I'm sure everyone has different takes on what defines a god/dess.  What is a god/dess?  How does he/she deserve that title?  Must you be born one?  Can you earn it?  Is there one god/dess, or are there many?

I'm honestly curious about this.  What makes someone (or even something) a god/dess?

Note: be civil please.  Any name-calling or arguments will cause automatic deletion of that post.  My warning.  Debating is fine, but be CIVIL.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 02:05:17 PM
if your chosen
so I guess you can earn it
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 02:07:57 PM
Well then, on what grounds can you be chosen, and who/what does the choosing?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 02:10:32 PM
I do...or the creator of the universe chooses
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 02:36:46 PM
Right, and that is all good and well for you, but then there are those of us who are part of something not of "here" as that Golem would put it.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 02:42:07 PM
yes like me
thats why I get to choose cause I'm not from here
and the creator choose me as  the leader/ founder and I choose the other god/desses
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 02:45:01 PM
Right, and that is all good and well for you, but then there are those of us who are part of something not of "here" as that Golem would put it.

Well, in your eyes what makes one a god?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 02:50:42 PM
yes like me
thats why I get to choose cause I'm not from here
and the creator choose me as  the leader/ founder and I choose the other god/desses

Right, right. So I get to blame you for Ralder being a god. That's what your saying? Even I find that hard to believe.

Right, and that is all good and well for you, but then there are those of us who are part of something not of "here" as that Golem would put it.

Well, in your eyes what makes one a god?
Granted, they can be chosen, but it is more complicated than that. Powers beyond all ideas are possiple once godhood is reached and not one single thing allows for someone to chose who becomes a god. What make sone a god is a question that has infathmoable amount of answers and it introduces even more questions into it.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 02:53:45 PM
dang gonit
that is what I am saying
and no he was/is not a real god
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 02:54:18 PM
Hmm...

Another question I have is this:

Do gods gain their god powers after becoming gods, or did having those powers secure them to be gods in the first place?  Or can that go both ways?

That is aimed at anyone.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 02:55:38 PM
dang gonit
that is what I am saying
and no he was/is not a real god

And who are you to say who is and is not a god? Who are you to doubt the existence of gods?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 02:57:36 PM
I already had me god powers
and soo did the rest of me fleet that i chose to be gods/goddesses
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 02:59:01 PM
dang gonit
that is what I am saying
and no he was/is not a real god
And who are you to say who is and is not a god? Who are you to doubt the existence of gods?

I know he is not a god cause I did not chose him and he is illegal if he has acted like he is
and I am a god so I DONT DOUBT THAT GODS EXIST
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 03:01:53 PM
Simmer down, simmer down. 

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion and beliefs, so don't try to dictate anyone else's thoughts, okay?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 03:03:50 PM
dang gonit
that is what I am saying
and no he was/is not a real god
I know he is not a god cause I did not chose him and he is illegal if he has acted like he is

and I am a god so I DONT DOUBT THAT GODS EXIST
And who are you to say who is and is not a god? Who are you to doubt the existence of gods?

You have just thrown yourself into a paradox. You claim that you have the right to choose gods, yet when I asked if I could then blame you for Ralder, you said you did not have that capability, and now you say that he is not a god because you did not choose him. You say he is illegal, who are you to decide what makes a god "illegal" who are you to determine the fate of what happens?

Simmer down, simmer down. 

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion and beliefs, so don't try to dictate anyone else's thoughts, okay?

This is me being calm.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 03:07:31 PM
Just trying to prevent things.  More aimed at people using all caps.  Instead of caps, try italics or something.  I don't like yelling :-)
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 03:09:18 PM
I never said I did not have the capapility
I said he was ilegal
ok
he is a false god and that makes him ilegal
ok
and there are only 2 chosen gods left

Leona and me
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 03:11:56 PM
Life? Is that what you are using as your argument, Life? Do not preach to me about what Antah does. A False God? What is it that makes you say he is false? Is it because you have not heard of him?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 03:17:15 PM
What qualifies someone to be a god? 

A false god?  What does one do to be a false god?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Moloch on September 16, 2008, 03:18:23 PM
Really Terror? So, according to your argument... I'm a false god, simply because you did not choose me?

Well... here's what I think of your assertions:  *<:)
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 03:29:32 PM
no he may have powers but he still is doin it ilegaly
how did he get his powers and where is he from cause he might be a demi-god

and thats good cause then I dont have to kill the fagit for being a false god

to dae
he has to be someone I like
and to be a false god you lie about being a god your not but you still have powers

no moloch if I were to choose you'd be one of the next gods
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 03:35:37 PM
What do you mean by illegaly? You use that word as if there are set rules of godhood.
How did he get his powers? From the same place they all got theirs, Anigdar.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 03:37:35 PM
Hmmm... is it that different gods from different planes, universes, etc., follow different sets of rules??

Are they still considered gods on other planes and universes?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 03:39:07 PM
Well, congratuf*ckinglations. Of course Ralder, Antah, Nyar, and the rest are from a different plane.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 03:42:55 PM
oh
I stand corrected
I dont choose them if they're in a different plane
the creator has only let me coose out of 40 different planes here in this universe

sorry ruayda
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 03:43:37 PM
Well, congratuf*ckinglations. Of course Ralder, Antah, Nyar, and the rest are from a different plane.

 :doh:

No reason to be rude.  You guys are the god "experts," I'm just throwing questions out there.

What I meant was more to elaborate on these different rules.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 03:45:48 PM
I'm no expert, just a minion. As for the different rules, well that's something not even I can have access to.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 03:49:02 PM
I made the laws of the gods
now on the plane mr ruayda has explained ( I dont know about 4 planes ) ( only 4)
but he has to explain who the creator gave control of cause I'd mostlikely know them unless the plain has been passed to someone else since I chose the only person who i thought diserved those 4 plains
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 03:54:11 PM
Interesting...

Well, in the event, Terror, that you were to choose a new god/dess, what would you look for in that person that would qualify them to be one?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 03:56:01 PM
He already said who the creator was, Andigar. Granted that is also their place of dwelling.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 04:01:07 PM
yes also known as leoth
I should have known he knew what he was talking about when he sai the name
they have to be goodhearted and they have to be under me control ( that is what Andigar has said)
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Ruayda on September 16, 2008, 04:06:36 PM
Yeah, this is where I take my leave from this conversation. I'm not allowed to say anything without permission. Perhaps I'll be given permission if I ask, but then I still won't be able to say anything until tomorow.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 04:09:01 PM
yes also known as leoth
I should have known he knew what he was talking about when he sai the name
they have to be goodhearted and they have to be under me control ( that is what Andigar has said)

Would the people you choose to have to have any specific powers or abilities in their own right?



What are the duties of a god/dess if he/she has any?  What should a god/dess be able to do? (Anyone)
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 04:27:44 PM
no dont have to have powers just need to be smart and goodhearted
um to protect the inocent and to help in battles
she should be able to get to the main leader(me) through some kind of speach( typing/phone/television)
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 04:42:48 PM
That's interesting :)

Here's a question to anyone, pure opinion:

In order for someone to be a god/dess, does he/she need to be worshipped in some way?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 16, 2008, 04:49:43 PM
no he/she doesnt
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 16, 2008, 05:21:27 PM
What makes a god/dess different from other beings?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Moloch on September 16, 2008, 05:46:20 PM
Yeah, this is where I take my leave as well; mainly because I still think role-playing should be confined to the appropriate section.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on September 16, 2008, 06:49:11 PM
I came upon this tread, and I suggest that it should be taken more seriously. Not only does it sound like role-play but also because Daemonin's questions are some damned good ones and the answers I've seen here are so far-fetched it makes me want to ask: Who are you trying to impress? 
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: thneedly on September 16, 2008, 07:23:18 PM
Thank you very much, Moloch and S_A.
Said it so I didn't have to.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Sick_Angel13 on September 16, 2008, 07:28:15 PM
You're welcome, Thneedly.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 17, 2008, 01:22:33 AM

What makes a god/dess different from other beings?
dae speaking personaly I think we are all the same cept some are apparently more idoitic then the rest of us
and others dont know how not to hurt other peoples feelings which makes them JA's
but the only thing that makes them different is that they are not known as normal

I see lots of potintal gods/goddesses around this planet

ps: terror, no flaming, please.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: thneedly on September 17, 2008, 01:48:44 AM
blablablablabla
is that all you idoits do

Nice one Terror.
You just called a former Guardian, a Moderator, and the respect resident trouble-maker idiots.
Excellent move there, bucko. Makes you look really cool.

We totally respect you now. You have some major Monstrous cred, big guy. Happy now, badass? Feel good about proving how much of a renegade you are?

See this?-------------------> *<:) *<:) *<:) *<:) *<:)

That is what I'm doing imagining your face when you see the message "Sorry TheTerror, you are banned from using this forum!".
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 17, 2008, 02:00:50 AM
bann me I dont care
its what your acting like

you guys need to lighten up and believe in stuff for once before your world is gone for good

maybe try and believe that the arua borialus and the arua astrialus can help energy crisis

try and believe that things are possible for once
and I was being serious about me answers to her '?'s
plus the fact that you guys have been donkeys to me ever since I got here
not including the mods ( this is the first time angel has said something) and loki ( who I really respect ) 7 other people
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 17, 2008, 05:11:36 AM
 :doh:

I didn't realize this would get so far out of hand...

All I can say is this:  I want what people believe, and if TheTerror believes the things he says, as out of the box as they are to most people, then they qualify as answers.  I didn't want anyone to argue or accuse others of being wrong or roleplaying.

No, I don't want someone to be pulling answers from midair and making up stories and being someone they are not.  Role-playing can be taken to the RPG thread, but if you believe the things you say then you are more than welcome to post here.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: jordyn on September 17, 2008, 08:45:16 AM
people make their own gods, that's the only qualification required, someone to believe in  you...and praise you as so.

true gods are able to last for centuries with followers who'll never let them be forgotten,  the false gods are lost in the dusts of our dreams.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 17, 2008, 10:16:46 AM
Very nice point, Jordyn. If I am understanding correctly, it's basically a god/dess no longer exists if he/she is forgotten.  That is something to think about, no?

Maybe, could it be, that the more people that have faith in a certain god/dess, the more power/influence he/she has?  Influence, I would say yes, but what about the mystical experiences people face?

A vision, a stigmata, a statue crying blood, etc.... do these happen because of these gods, or are they because of the faith in these gods?

Could forgetting a god/dess of a culture eliminate the chance of experiencing such an experience related to that god/dess?

What then is a god/dess?  Does the god/dess actually have any power, or is the power with the ones who believe in him/her?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 17, 2008, 01:02:56 PM
well its how I lost most of me own porwers is by people not believing

science says a god isnt real and most believe that that god looses his/her powers
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Tybalt on September 17, 2008, 01:29:27 PM
well its how I lost most of me own porwers is by people not believing

science says a god isnt real and most believe that that god looses his/her powers

Science never says that. People with weak faith do. With out science there are no miracles.

Here is what I think of gawds.

*<:) *<:) *<:) *<:) *<:) *<:) *<:) *<:) *<:) *<:)

No I am not attacking any religion. Its just my opinion of "gawd powers" it doesn't matter what some one says, a gawd can still die. Every thing can always die. Personally getting "chosen" would be a down step for me, I'm already better than a god, I'm me, what more could I ask for. :lol:

No seriously, you should love yourself so much that you would rather be you than a god, after all who else will love you that much, why hold back. In the end, if there is a way to become a god, it will be two ways, faith from your friends which drive from your own confidence in yourself, or sheer will power which will also drive from confidence in yourself.

Oh and believe me, I've been chosen, so I ain't doing any thing illegal when I say I wouldn't be suprised if I were a sex god, there has definately been enough faith and choosing in that area. With all of that, I do believe to be a god, you must have a purpose and you must make it your own way.

No I am not a self proclaim god nor am I saying I am a god, there may be confusion there. I'm saying why even bother with it. I agree with Moloch's quote, Lifes a joke, Deaths the punch line, and my little added tid bit= Enjoy the joke. Coyote smiles on Moloch, because he is one of the few who truly get it.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 17, 2008, 01:32:24 PM
of course a god can die
they are still flesh and blood
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 17, 2008, 01:38:50 PM
So, a god/dess can be mortal?  Does anyone disagree?

Oh and believe me, I've been chosen, so I ain't doing any thing illegal when I say I wouldn't be suprised if I were a sex god, there has definately been enough faith and choosing in that area.

*<:) *<:) *<:)

Sorry, just putting my two cent's worth in. :-D  No harm done.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 17, 2008, 01:44:23 PM
 hahaha

hey tybalt
you really want to be a god
we can meet up and I can give you the powers ( since you say your a shifter)
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Aliantos on September 17, 2008, 04:06:28 PM
ok so much 2 cents worth to the questions so far (not all of them, just some of them, basically my views on the matter), i think that the faith reference has a great deal to do with it, but i also think that they have to be able to create something, like i would create a flower without a seed or anything, the flower just POOF!!!! TADA!!!!....that make any sense? they have to be able to create something not of themselves, (no i am not insulting any religion) mortal or immortal, the power to create gives people the ability to see past their own selves, and think of other things, like the mountains heartbeat, or the tree's speech, or the animal's help. I have nothing against technology, but the world is moving forward so fast, we forget to take the other things of this world with us, and that i am sure, is not what any creator u want to mention would want.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Tybalt on September 17, 2008, 06:25:05 PM
hahaha

hey tybalt
you really want to be a god
we can meet up and I can give you the powers ( since you say your a shifter)

Lol, I believe I just said I didn't want to be a god, but if I were to be one, one little lady would make it happen, not you, sorry. Immortal means can't die, there are none that are truly immortal. There are those that don't die of old age but can be killed. There are those, excuse me, said to be those who can only die of old age, but no harm can kill them. So far, a bullet or a severed head has been the bane of the problem for a long time, hell just a slashed throat seems to work.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Regina Terra on September 17, 2008, 11:32:54 PM
Gods & Goddesses are irrelevant. There will always be someone greater than yourself, even if it is just the universe itself.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 18, 2008, 01:59:09 AM
the creator is immortal cept in one way

I can only die in 3 ways here soo I am not immortal
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Tybalt on September 18, 2008, 04:04:22 AM
Gods & Goddesses are irrelevant. There will always be someone greater than yourself, even if it is just the universe itself.

And its your job to constantly make sure that she is deserves that title, better than you.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Regina Terra on September 18, 2008, 04:10:43 AM
Pardon? I do not understand that post. :?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: thneedly on September 18, 2008, 04:50:53 AM
This thread makes me facepalm.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 18, 2008, 06:36:33 AM
I think a few have missed the point of some of these questions... :doh:

What makes someone a god/dess?  Why do they have this title?  What makes them divine versus mundane?  And I don't mean being chosen or anything.  How are they different from the rest, or are they different at all?

Gods & Goddesses are irrelevant. There will always be someone greater than yourself, even if it is just the universe itself.

That is nice and all, but the thread is about gods and goddesses.  So, if you believe in any gods or/and goddesses, what makes them different?

Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Tybalt on September 18, 2008, 01:25:13 PM
To me, nothing, nothing makes them different. You will have holy'ier than thou people but in the end, your god or goddess is what you make of it. You choose who is the god or goddess, or is divine and mundane, and you choose how different they are.

There are several popular ones already out there such as the Christian god or any of the egyptian gods, but pick a regular person and start worshipping them, and you will have a new god. Watch it happen.

I hope you get the meaning of it.
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: TheTerror on September 19, 2008, 01:13:22 AM
oh great thats a good idea

um how about the nature and light god

good now who do I pick to be the messenger...dunno

and tybalt I already said that I wasnt diffrent cpet in what I do and the fact that I am not human

which does make me different but still equal cept in millitary command
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Tybalt on September 19, 2008, 02:10:08 PM
oh great thats a good idea

um how about the nature and light god

good now who do I pick to be the messenger...dunno

and tybalt I already said that I wasnt diffrent cpet in what I do and the fact that I am not human

which does make me different but still equal cept in millitary command

I never said you were different or equal, I said that was my opinion of gods. The nature and light gods, oh I am sure they were both one hell of a woman, each of them.

Hell, just look at Terror, he is picking all kinds of people to be gods, he must be on his knees twenty four seven worshipping each of them. Do you even stand Terror or are you on your knees all the time giving each of your gods their "special" worship?
Title: Re: What makes someone a "god/dess"?
Post by: Daemonin on September 19, 2008, 02:15:55 PM
Fine, I get it.

Locking this thread. 

No one can be civil, huh?